
The AI Policy Podcast
CSIS’ Gregory C. Allen, Director of the Wadhwani Center for AI and Advanced Technologies, is joined by cohost H. Andrew Schwartz on a deep dive into the world of AI policy. Every two weeks, tune in for insightful discussions regarding AI policy regulation, innovation, national security, and geopolitics. The AI Policy Podcast is by the Wadhwani Center for AI and Advanced Technologies at CSIS, a bipartisan think-tank in Washington, D.C.
Latest episodes

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Mar 19, 2025 • 53min
The State and Local AI Regulation Landscape with Dean Ball
Dean Ball, a Research Fellow at George Mason University’s Mercatus Center and author of Hyperdimensional, dives into the complexities of AI regulation at state and local levels. He discusses the surge in legislation following lessons learned from social media, including over 800 proposed bills. The conversation covers the challenges of regulating malicious deepfakes, algorithmic discrimination, and the bipartisan effort in shaping laws. Ball also highlights California's SB 1047 and the necessity for clear standards to protect innovation while addressing safety concerns.

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Mar 12, 2025 • 25min
Deepseek Report, Manus AI, and the DOD’s New Acquisition Approach
Delve into the future of export controls influenced by the DeepSeek Report and Huawei's role in the U.S.-China AI race. Discover Manus AI, a Chinese startup that claims to have a general AI agent, and the skepticism it faces. Learn about the DOD's shift towards a modern software acquisition strategy that integrates commercial AI into defense. Explore the Thunderforge Initiative, which integrates AI into military operations. Finally, witness Musk's ambitious XAI expansion with a massive data center in Memphis, showcasing the intersection of AI and military power.

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Mar 4, 2025 • 53min
The UAE's AI Ambitions
Georgia Adamson, a Research Associate at the CSIS Wadhwani AI Center, and Lennart Heim, an Associate Information Scientist at RAND, delve into the UAE's ambitious AI initiatives. They discuss the UAE's role as a burgeoning tech investment hub, spotlighting a $100 billion investment vehicle and its partnership with Microsoft and G42. The duo also examines U.S. chip export controls and the implications of AI collaboration with countries like China. They highlight the strategic diplomatic balancing act at play in this fast-evolving landscape.

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Feb 25, 2025 • 35min
Grok 3, DOGE, and Xi Jinping's Meeting with DeepSeek
This intriguing discussion unveils xAI's new Grok 3 models and their implications for AI performance. It delves into the effects of DOGE on the federal AI workforce and highlights the competitive landscape against established giants. Additionally, the episode covers Xi Jinping's meeting with Chinese AI executives, pointing to significant geopolitical dynamics. Lastly, it introduces the groundbreaking Evo-2 model that revolutionizes genetic prediction, raising critical discussions about the regulation of genetic technologies.

Feb 14, 2025 • 33min
Unpacking the AI Action Summit
Greg shares insights from the recent AI Action Summit in Paris, highlighting France's ambitious goals and contrasting diplomatic strategies of the US and EU. He discusses the significant hesitations of the US and UK in signing the summit declaration, revealing shifts in national discussions on AI safety. The podcast delves into Europe's strengths in AI research versus its commercialization challenges. Additionally, it examines the rebranding of the UK AI Security Institute and stresses the necessity for investing in AI safety to protect future developments.

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Jan 29, 2025 • 29min
DeepSeek Deep Dive
The conversation dives into the origins of the intriguing Chinese AI company DeepSeek and its groundbreaking DeepSeek R1 model. The hosts analyze the intense U.S.-China competition ignited by this release and its significant impact on the U.S. stock market. They discuss allegations of intellectual property theft and its implications for the AI sector. The episode also covers how U.S. firms are strategizing in response to DeepSeek's innovations, emphasizing the evolving dynamics of the global AI landscape.

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Jan 27, 2025 • 1h 22min
Week 1 of the Trump administration, AGI timelines, and DeepSeek
Lennart Heim, Senior Information Scientist at the RAND Corporation, dives into the political landscape surrounding AI during the Trump administration. They discuss the implications of repealing key executive orders, and the ambitious $500 billion Stargate initiative aimed at bolstering U.S. AI infrastructure. The conversation shifts to the evolving timelines for achieving AGI, with a focus on advancements in model training from companies like DeepSeek, and the innovative approach of model distillation enhancing cost-efficiency in AI development.

Jan 14, 2025 • 23min
Executive Order on AI and Energy Infrastructure - Emergency Podcast 2.0
Joseph Majkut, Director of the Energy Security and Climate Change Program at CSIS, discusses the Biden administration's Executive Order on AI infrastructure, focusing on its motivations and goals. The conversation highlights the energy demands of AI data centers and the need for clean power sources. They explore regulatory challenges and the urgency of strategic data center implementation. Additionally, they analyze how Trump's potential policies might impact AI and energy initiatives, emphasizing the importance of clean energy in future developments.

Jan 13, 2025 • 28min
AI Diffusion Framework - Emergency Podcast
Delve into the Biden administration's AI Diffusion Framework and its implications for global AI control. Discover how major firms like NVIDIA are reacting to rapid policy changes. Explore the groundbreaking achievement of OpenAI's O3 model and its potential impact on national security. Learn about the new chip export policies affecting nations like Israel and Singapore, and uncover the political dynamics that could shape the future of AI regulation amid U.S.-China tensions.

Dec 19, 2024 • 20min
Export Control Update, White House AI Czar, OpenAI-Anduril Team-up, and China’s Loyal Wingman
The podcast dives into recent updates on U.S. semiconductor export controls and their implications for trade and technology. It discusses the appointment of an AI czar and how this affects national security. The collaboration between OpenAI and Anduril highlights the intersection of AI and defense. Additionally, the conversation shifts to China’s advancements in autonomous fighter aircraft, raising concerns about competitive dynamics in military technology. It’s a fascinating blend of policy, innovation, and international rivalry!