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Ben and Emil
Hosted by Ben Cahn and Emil DeRosa -- a licensed Wall Street trader and his skeptical best friend -- The Ben and Emil Show highlights the funnier side of the business, political, and financial world. Ben and Emil dive deep into the hilarious underbelly of our economy. It's an insightful, hilarious, and occasionally chaotic way to learn about finance, business, and politics. Get bonus content on benandemilshow.com.
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Oct 2, 2025 • 1h 55min
BAES 120: AI is the Biggest Bubble of All Time ft. ED ZITRON
Ed Zitron, a tech commentator and writer focusing on Silicon Valley and AI trends, dives deep into the unsettling realities of AI investment in this discussion. He argues that the soaring spending on AI is a bubble about to burst, backed by troubling financial analyses. The conversation highlights personal experiences with chatbots, critiques of new AI features, and the risks of forming unhealthy attachments to AI companions. Zitron also raises alarms about the economic and societal implications of AI, advocating for tighter regulations to avert disaster.

Sep 25, 2025 • 1h 6min
BAES 119: AUTISM SOLVED AND CHARLIE’S CRINGE FUNERAL
Guys...they finally figured it out. We're analyzing piece by piece the big autism announcement and also reviewing Charlie Kirk's insanely weird and cringe funeral. If you could call it that.
Give this video a thumbs up if you enjoyed it! And please leave us a comment! It helps us!
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***Ben's new movies and tv podcast with Dillon is OUT NOW! GO WATCH the latest episode on THE HIGH SCHOOL CATFISH here:
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**CHECK OUT EMIL'S LIVESTREAMS HERE: https://www.youtube.com/emilderosa
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That's Cringe of Cody Ko: https://youtu.be/dTbEk0pVh2w
Our AUSTIN VIDEO: https://youtu.be/yGSs56bFzRU
Our episode with Kyla Scanlon: https://youtu.be/cIHWkY35cuc
Big Tech is out of ideas (ft. ED ZITRON): https://youtu.be/zBvVGHZBpMw
Arguing with a millionaire (ft. Chris Camillo): https://youtu.be/1ZUWTkWV_MM
We bought suits HERE: https://youtu.be/_cM1XqA9n2U
***LINK TO OUR DISCORD: https://discord.gg/CjujBt8g
***Subscribe to Emil's Substack: https://substack.com/@emilderosa
***Trade with Ben at https://tradertreehouse.com
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Sep 18, 2025 • 1h 16min
BAES 118: Charlie Kirk, Groypers, and the Disintegration of Politics
This week we're talking about Groypers and just the overall state of politics in this country. It's a real free flowing conversation and we hope you enjoy.
***ALSO BE SURE TO JOIN US TOMORROW AT NOON PST FOR A SPECIAL LIVESTREAM***
Ben's new movies and tv podcast with Dillon is OUT NOW! GO WATCH the latest episode on THE HIGH SCHOOL CATFISH here:
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**CHECK OUT EMIL'S LIVESTREAMS HERE: https://www.youtube.com/emilderosa
Give this video a thumbs up if you enjoyed it! And please leave us a comment! It helps us!
That's Cringe of Cody Ko: https://youtu.be/dTbEk0pVh2w
Our AUSTIN VIDEO IS OUT! https://youtu.be/yGSs56bFzRU
Sign up to watch and support the show at https://benandemilshow.com
***LINK TO OUR DISCORD: https://discord.gg/CjujBt8g
***Subscribe to Emil's Substack: https://substack.com/@emilderosa
***Trade with Ben at https://tradertreehouse.com
Our episode with *Kyla Scanlon*: https://youtu.be/cIHWkY35cuc
Big Tech is out of ideas (ft. ED ZITRON): https://youtu.be/zBvVGHZBpMw
Arguing with a millionaire (ft. Chris Camillo): https://youtu.be/1ZUWTkWV_MM
We bought suits HERE: https://youtu.be/_cM1XqA9n2U
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Sep 11, 2025 • 1h 30min
BAES 117: DEEP DIVE: The Epstein Birthday Book is Trump's 9/11
Is the Epstein birthday book a big nothing burger, or is it a smoking gun? We're more inclined to think it's the latter, especially as we dig deep into the hundreds of pages of this creepy quasi-confession of a birthday card collection. So is it a hoax? Watch and decide for yourself.
***ALSO BE SURE TO JOIN US TOMORROW AT NOON PST FOR A SPECIAL CHARLIE KIRK LIVESTREAM***
Ben's new movies and tv podcast with Dillon is OUT NOW! GO WATCH the latest episode on THE HIGH SCHOOL CATFISH here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MC1wfcB6c2E
**CHECK OUT EMIL'S LIVESTREAMS HERE: https://www.youtube.com/emilderosa
Give this video a thumbs up if you enjoyed it! And please leave us a comment! It helps us!
That's Cringe of Cody Ko: https://youtu.be/dTbEk0pVh2w
Our AUSTIN VIDEO IS OUT! https://youtu.be/yGSs56bFzRU
Sign up to watch and support the show at https://benandemilshow.com
***LINK TO OUR DISCORD: https://discord.gg/CjujBt8g
***Subscribe to Emil's Substack: https://substack.com/@emilderosa
***Trade with Ben at https://tradertreehouse.com
Our episode with *Kyla Scanlon*: https://youtu.be/cIHWkY35cuc
Big Tech is out of ideas (ft. ED ZITRON): https://youtu.be/zBvVGHZBpMw
Arguing with a millionaire (ft. Chris Camillo): https://youtu.be/1ZUWTkWV_MM
We bought suits HERE: https://youtu.be/_cM1XqA9n2U
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Sep 4, 2025 • 1h 13min
BAES 116: WHO WILL DIE FIRST: TRUMP OR AMERICA?
Well...Trump didn't die. But he may be actively dying. And so is America. Look no further than the flashy rollout of Amtrak's pathetic new ACELA trains. Oh yeah baby. We're talking trains. We're talking Cracker Barrel. Cultural rot. Skewed priorities. PLUS, we're covering the new meme stock that's sweeping the market.
Ben's new movies and tv podcast with Dillon is OUT NOW! GO WATCH the latest episode on CAUGHT STEALING ft. AUSTIN BUTLER:
https://youtu.be/n9KAwLsAaZc?si=dcwSjnjG3UtYF-Dz
**CHECK OUT EMIL'S LIVESTREAMS HERE: https://www.youtube.com/emilderosa
Give this video a thumbs up if you enjoyed it! And please leave us a comment! It helps us!
That's Cringe of Cody Ko: https://youtu.be/dTbEk0pVh2w
Our AUSTIN VIDEO IS OUT! https://youtu.be/yGSs56bFzRU
Sign up to watch and support the show at https://benandemilshow.com
***LINK TO OUR DISCORD: https://discord.gg/CjujBt8g
***Subscribe to Emil's Substack: https://substack.com/@emilderosa
***Trade with Ben at https://tradertreehouse.com
Our episode with *Kyla Scanlon*: https://youtu.be/cIHWkY35cuc
Big Tech is out of ideas (ft. ED ZITRON): https://youtu.be/zBvVGHZBpMw
Arguing with a millionaire (ft. Chris Camillo): https://youtu.be/1ZUWTkWV_MM
We bought suits HERE: https://youtu.be/_cM1XqA9n2U
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Aug 28, 2025 • 1h 10min
BAES 115: Deep Dive: Chinese Stock Scams are EVERYWHERE
This week Edwin Dorsey from The Bear Cave joins us to talk about the massive problem with Chinese stock scams absolutely inundating the Nasdaq. Their operations are huge, employing hundreds of people throughout southeast Asia and preying on vulnerable people via Whatsapp groups and sketchy AI-generated ads.
You can follow Edwin on twitter at: https://x.com/stockjabber?lang=en
or subscribe to his substack here: https://thebearcave.substack.com/
Ben's new movies and tv podcast with Dillon is OUT NOW! GO WATCH the third episode on HONEY DON'T:
https://youtu.be/SmHX4GtXIjc?si=vBVgNnizHkVzl2lW
**CHECK OUT EMIL'S LIVESTREAMS HERE: https://www.youtube.com/emilderosa
Give this video a thumbs up if you enjoyed it! And please leave us a comment! It helps us!
That's Cringe of Cody Ko: https://youtu.be/dTbEk0pVh2w
Our AUSTIN VIDEO IS OUT! https://youtu.be/yGSs56bFzRU
Sign up to watch and support the show at https://benandemilshow.com
***LINK TO OUR DISCORD: https://discord.gg/CjujBt8g
***Subscribe to Emil's Substack: https://substack.com/@emilderosa
***Trade with Ben at https://tradertreehouse.com
Our episode with *Kyla Scanlon*: https://youtu.be/cIHWkY35cuc
Big Tech is out of ideas (ft. ED ZITRON): https://youtu.be/zBvVGHZBpMw
Arguing with a millionaire (ft. Chris Camillo): https://youtu.be/1ZUWTkWV_MM
We bought suits HERE: https://youtu.be/_cM1XqA9n2U
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Aug 21, 2025 • 1h 20min
BAES 114: A New Pandemic May Already Be Here
If you thought covid was bad and are worried about another pandemic, then you need to watch this episode. Virologist Dr. Angela Rasmussen joins us this week to tell us all about the risks, the characteristics, and what keeps her up at night when it comes to H5N1.
Ben's new movies and tv podcast with Dillon is OUT NOW! GO WATCH the second episode on WAR OF THE WORLDS:
https://youtu.be/uznBN3UKcDA?si=1a8fwnMtHCJcRVAM
**CHECK OUT EMIL'S LIVESTREAMS HERE: https://www.youtube.com/emilderosa
Give this video a thumbs up if you enjoyed it! And please leave us a comment! It helps us!
That's Cringe of Cody Ko: https://youtu.be/dTbEk0pVh2w
Our AUSTIN VIDEO IS OUT! https://youtu.be/yGSs56bFzRU
Sign up to watch and support the show at https://benandemilshow.com
***LINK TO OUR DISCORD: https://discord.gg/CjujBt8g
***Subscribe to Emil's Substack: https://substack.com/@emilderosa
***Trade with Ben at https://tradertreehouse.com
Our episode with *Kyla Scanlon*: https://youtu.be/cIHWkY35cuc
Big Tech is out of ideas (ft. ED ZITRON): https://youtu.be/zBvVGHZBpMw
Arguing with a millionaire (ft. Chris Camillo): https://youtu.be/1ZUWTkWV_MM
We bought suits HERE: https://youtu.be/_cM1XqA9n2U
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Go to https://ground.news/baes for a better way to stay informed. Subscribe for 40% off unlimited access to worldwide coverage through our link.
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Aug 14, 2025 • 1h 15min
BAES 113: Hiring A Fake Man to Run Your Company
This week we have Penelope Gazin and Kate Giambra from Fashion Brand Company! Their story is wild and inspirational. The clothes are good too.
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Ben's new movies and tv podcast with Dillon is OUT NOW! GO WATCH the first episode on WEAPONS:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POTRcU5K8UE
**CHECK OUT EMIL'S LIVESTREAMS HERE: https://www.youtube.com/emilderosa
Give this video a thumbs up if you enjoyed it! And please leave us a comment! It helps us!
That's Cringe of Cody Ko: https://youtu.be/dTbEk0pVh2w
Our AUSTIN VIDEO IS OUT! https://youtu.be/yGSs56bFzRU
Sign up to watch and support the show at https://benandemilshow.com
***LINK TO OUR DISCORD: https://discord.gg/CjujBt8g
***Subscribe to Emil's Substack: https://substack.com/@emilderosa
***Trade with Ben at https://tradertreehouse.com
Our episode with *Kyla Scanlon*: https://youtu.be/cIHWkY35cuc
Big Tech is out of ideas (ft. ED ZITRON): https://youtu.be/zBvVGHZBpMw
Arguing with a millionaire (ft. Chris Camillo): https://youtu.be/1ZUWTkWV_MM
We bought suits HERE: https://youtu.be/_cM1XqA9n2U
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Aug 7, 2025 • 1h 11min
BAES 112: Can China Destroy Starbucks?
Something is BREWING in the world of Starbucks. And that something is extremely Chinese. That's right -- LUCKIN COFFEE, the massively successful Chinese upstart, is on its way to de-throne the reigning American champ. Will Starbucks' attempts to stay relevant be their Blockbuster moment? Stay tuned and we'll lay it all out for you. With extra cold foam.
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**CHECK OUT EMIL'S LIVESTREAMS HERE: https://www.youtube.com/emilderosa
Give this video a thumbs up if you enjoyed it! And please leave us a comment! It helps us!
That's Cringe of Cody Ko: https://youtu.be/dTbEk0pVh2w
Our AUSTIN VIDEO IS OUT! https://youtu.be/yGSs56bFzRU
Sign up to watch and support the show at https://benandemilshow.com
***LINK TO OUR DISCORD: https://discord.gg/CjujBt8g
***Subscribe to Emil's Substack: https://substack.com/@emilderosa
***Trade with Ben at https://tradertreehouse.com
Our episode with *Kyla Scanlon*: https://youtu.be/cIHWkY35cuc
Big Tech is out of ideas (ft. ED ZITRON): https://youtu.be/zBvVGHZBpMw
Arguing with a millionaire (ft. Chris Camillo): https://youtu.be/1ZUWTkWV_MM
We bought suits HERE: https://youtu.be/_cM1XqA9n2U
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Jul 31, 2025 • 1h 15min
BAES 111: Is Sydney Sweeney Racist?
This week we're getting to the bottom of whether or not Sydney Sweeney's new American Eagle ad is promoting eugenics. Good genes or good jeans? We're also taking a look at some other classic ad blunders. And we take a brief detour into the horny economy. Let's get into it.
Subscribe to Ben's new movies and tv podcast with Dillon! Please go smash that subscribe button:
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**CHECK OUT EMIL'S LIVESTREAMS HERE: https://www.youtube.com/emilderosa
Give this video a thumbs up if you enjoyed it! And please leave us a comment! It helps us!
That's Cringe of Cody Ko: https://youtu.be/dTbEk0pVh2w
Our AUSTIN VIDEO IS OUT! https://youtu.be/yGSs56bFzRU
Sign up to watch and support the show at https://benandemilshow.com
***LINK TO OUR DISCORD: https://discord.gg/CjujBt8g
***Subscribe to Emil's Substack: https://substack.com/@emilderosa
***Trade with Ben at https://tradertreehouse.com
Our episode with *Kyla Scanlon*: https://youtu.be/cIHWkY35cuc
Big Tech is out of ideas (ft. ED ZITRON): https://youtu.be/zBvVGHZBpMw
Arguing with a millionaire (ft. Chris Camillo): https://youtu.be/1ZUWTkWV_MM
We bought suits HERE: https://youtu.be/_cM1XqA9n2U
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