Mormon Stories Podcast

Dr. John Dehlin
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Oct 4, 2022 • 2h 50min

1667: Coming Out as the Gay Son of a Mormon Bishop, Serving a Mission - Evan and Weston Smith Pt.2

Trigger Warning: Suicidal Ideation Evan Smith rose through the ranks of Mormon leadership ultimately becoming a Stake Presidency member. While serving as an LDS Bishop, Evan struggled with the Church’s positions on LGBTQ+ issues and later found out that his son Weston was gay. Even after coming out, Weston decided to serve an LDS Mission as an openly gay man, leading him to high levels of depression and heartbreaking experiences during and after coming back early from his mission.   Evan became an advocate for LGBTQ people in the Church. His position as a Stake Presidency Counselor led him to a few confrontations/discussions with General Authorities and a later meeting at Church Headquarters where they discussed Evan’s progressive beliefs on LGBTQ matters.   In Part 2 of 3, we start off where we left with Weston’s story growing up as a gay Mormon kid, discovering his sexuality, his suicidal ideation, and his decision to serve a mission as an “out” gay Mormon. Upon experiencing suicidality again on his mission Weston has a “spiritual experience” which leads to his resolve to leave the church and live a happy life. Meanwhile, Evan gets a call to become a 1st counselor in the Stake Presidency.   Gay Latter-day Saint Crossroads This Body of Water: Surviving Mormonism as a Queer Man  Episode Show Notes ===== Mormon Stories Thanks Our Generous Donors! Help us continue to deliver quality content by becoming a donor today: One-time or recurring donation through Donorbox Support us on Patreon Pick “Mormon Stories” as your charity on Amazon Smile or through the Amazon App  Our Platforms: Mormon Stories Blog Patreon Spotify Apple Podcasts Contact us: MormonStories@gmail.com  Mormon Stories Podcast PO Box 171085 Salt Lake City, UT 84117  Social Media: Insta: @mormstories Tiktok: @mormonstoriespodcast Join the Discord
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Oct 3, 2022 • 2h 38min

1666: Becoming a Progressive Mormon Bishop, Son Comes Out as Gay - Evan and Wes Smith Pt. 1

Evan Smith rose through the ranks of Mormon leadership ultimately becoming a Stake Presidency member. While serving as an LDS Bishop, Evan struggled with the Church’s positions on LGBTQ+ issues and later found out that his son Weston was gay. Even after coming out, Weston decided to serve an LDS Mission as an openly gay man, leading him to high levels of depression and heartbreaking experiences during and after coming back early from his mission. Evan became an advocate for LGBTQ people in the Church. His position as a Stake Presidency Counselor led him to a few confrontations/discussions with General Authorities and a later meeting at Church Headquarters where they discussed Evan’s progressive beliefs on LGBTQ matters. Join John and Gerardo as they interview Evan and his son Weston about their fascinating Mormon Story.  In Part 1 of 3, we learn of Evan’s relatively normal LDS (Mormon) upbringing in Utah, early testimony-building experiences, and troubling issues on his mission regarding difficult Church topics including the Church’s racism & homophobia. Evan attends BYU and meets his wife, Cheryl, and works through law school with three children. He becomes a Branch President (leader of a local congregation-similar to a Bishop, but over a smaller congregation) and begins learning Gospel teachings and experiences weren’t as simple as they initially seemed, culminating in his son, Weston, coming out to him as gay. Gay Latter-day Saint Crossroads This Body of Water: Surviving Mormonism as a Queer Man  Episode Show Notes ===== Mormon Stories Thanks Our Generous Donors! Help us continue to deliver quality content by becoming a donor today: One-time or recurring donation through Donorbox Support us on Patreon Pick “Mormon Stories” as your charity on Amazon Smile or through the Amazon App  Our Platforms: Mormon Stories Blog Patreon Spotify Apple Podcasts Contact us: MormonStories@gmail.com  Mormon Stories Podcast PO Box 171085 Salt Lake City, UT 84117  Social Media: Insta: @mormstories Tiktok: @mormonstoriespodcast Join the Discord
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Sep 29, 2022 • 2h 28min

1665: Race & Mormon Scripture Pt 2 w/ LDS Discussions - 22

Join us for Part 2 of our discussion on Race and the Book of Mormon. Today Mike and John go over the various apologetics for the apparent racism in the Book of Mormon and early Church leaders, from denying those particular scriptures are literal, to saying “everyone was racist back then” and of course, breaking down the various problems each creates for a Church said to be built on the basis of revelation to modern prophets. 1663: Race and Mormon Scripture Pt 1 w/ LDS Discussions - 21 LDSdiscussions.com Essay on Race Episode Show Notes _________________________ LDS Discussions is made possible by generous donors! Help us continue to deliver quality content by becoming a donor today: One-time or recurring donation through Donorbox Support us on Patreon Pick “Mormon Stories” as your charity on Amazon Smile or through the Amazon App LDS Discussions Platforms: LDS Discussions Website LDS Discussions Playlist on YouTube Contact LDS Discussions: Twitter: @ldsdicussions Facebook: @ldsdiscussion Insta: @ldsdiscussions Email: ldsdiscussions@gmail.com Contact us: MormonStories@gmail.com PO Box 171085, Salt Lake City, UT 84117 Social Media: Insta: @mormstories Tiktok: @mormonstoriespodcast Join the Discord
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Sep 28, 2022 • 58min

1664: Boy Scouts Bankruptcy and the Mormon Church - An Update w/ Tim Kosnoff

TRIGGER WARNING: Mentions of Sexual Assault, Rape, Child Abuse Tim Kosnoff is back to share an update about the Boy Scouts of America Bankruptcy Filing and urgent deadline at the end of 2022 for anyone in California who was abused by a Boy Scout Leader outside of official BSA activities to be able to join a class-action lawsuit before the window is closed forever. Anyone with questions or think this might apply to themselves or someone they love are encouraged to contact an attorney (ideally one with experience with child abuse claims) to learn more. Tim Kosnoff is a US attorney who has spent the last two decades representing victims of abuse and has graciously volunteered to talk with anyone who may have questions about this case. Contact info provided below. Free BSA Consult Hotline: 206-785-7326   Tim Kosnoff: https://kosnoff.com  https://twitter.com/SexAbuseAttys  Abused In Scouting Website     Recent Episodes: 1639: The Mormon Church Abuse Hot Line with Attorney Tim Kosnoff 1640: Boy Scout Abuse and the Mormon Church with Attorney Tim Kosnoff   ===== Mormon Stories Thanks Our Generous Donors! Help us continue to deliver quality content by becoming a donor today: One-time or recurring donation through Donorbox Support us on Patreon Pick “Mormon Stories” as your charity on Amazon Smile or through the Amazon App  Our Platforms: Mormon Stories Blog Patreon Spotify Apple Podcasts Contact us: MormonStories@gmail.com  Mormon Stories Podcast PO Box 171085 Salt Lake City, UT 84117 Social Media: Insta: @mormstories Tiktok: @mormonstoriespodcast Join the Discord
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Sep 22, 2022 • 2h 14min

1663: Race and Mormon Scripture Pt 1 w/ LDS Discussions - 21

Join Mike from LDSdiscussions.com and John as they discuss race and Mormon scripture. This is part 1 of a 2-part series. We are also grateful to have a few call-in guests for this episode. Today’s episode covers: Personal stories from black members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (Mormons) of the racist things said to them and ways they were treated, and how psychologically harmful the racist doctrines have been for them The most problematic verses and teaching of past prophets from The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints that specifically highlight dark or black skin as a curse directly from God Context and proof showing the belief literally meant dark skin and was not an idiom or euphemism for anything else The early belief that the skin color of Indigenous North Americans could/did actually change to become lighter when converting to Mormonism and living more “righteously” The Book of Abraham as evidence of Joseph Smith’s racism, codifying racism into scripture for ALL black people, not just as a curse specific to North American Indigenous people as stated in the Book of Mormon. The doctrinal basis for the early Mormon ban against black people worshiping and marrying in the Temple, as well as the ban against black Mormon men from receiving the Priesthood, the authority needed to hold any leadership position in the Church as well as perform essential saving ordinances such as baptism, receiving the gift of the Holy Ghost etc. The real reasons the Church was pressured to lift the ban and the measures taken to make it happen despite continued vehement opposition among some Church leaders. 1665: Race & Mormon Scripture Pt 2 w/ LDS Discussions – 22 LDS Discussions Essay on Race Episode Show Notes _________________________ LDS Discussions is made possible by generous donors! Help us continue to deliver quality content by becoming a donor today: One-time or recurring donation through Donorbox Support us on Patreon Pick “Mormon Stories” as your charity on Amazon Smile or through the Amazon App LDS Discussions Platforms: LDS Discussions Website LDS Discussions Playlist on YouTube Contact LDS Discussions: Twitter: @ldsdicussions Facebook: @ldsdiscussion Insta: @ldsdiscussions Email: ldsdiscussions@gmail.com Contact us: MormonStories@gmail.com PO Box 171085, Salt Lake City, UT 84117 Social Media: Insta: @mormstories Tiktok: @mormonstoriespodcast Join the Discord
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Sep 21, 2022 • 2h 57min

1662: Losing Faith as the Grandson of an LDS Apostle (Joseph B. Wirthlin) - Greg Gerritsen Pt. 2

Join us for Part 2 of our 2-part interview with pilot Greg Gerritsen Join us for Part 2 of our 2-part interview with pilot Greg Gerritsen - grandson of the late and much believed Mormon or LDS Church apostle Joseph B. Wirthlin. In this series, Greg shares with us more of his own journey in the Church including: Greg's mission experiences, many made more difficult by knowledge of his relationship with Elder Wirthlin What Greg learned at Weber that began affecting his testimony How often General Authorities miss out on family activities and events in service to the Church How the Church deals with aging apostles once they begin to lose lucidity How Greg lost his LDS testimony in spite of descending from the Mormon "elite," and what led him to want to tell his story. Also, Greg shares his opinion on whether his grandfather actually "saw" Jesus Christ as an LDS apostle. We hope you enjoy!!! Episode Show Notes   ===== Mormon Stories Thanks Our Generous Donors!   Help us continue to deliver quality content by becoming a donor today: One-time or recurring donation through Donorbox Support us on Patreon Pick “Mormon Stories” as your charity on Amazon Smile or through the Amazon App    Our Platforms: Mormon Stories Blog Patreon Spotify Apple Podcasts   Contact us: MormonStories@gmail.com    Mormon Stories Podcast PO Box 171085 Salt Lake City, UT 84117   Social Media: Insta: @mormstories Tiktok: @mormstories Join the Discord
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Sep 19, 2022 • 2h 40min

1661: Growing Up As a Grandson of a Mormon Apostle (Joseph B Wirthlin) - Greg Gerritsen Pt 1

Join us for Part 1 of our 2-part interview with pilot Greg Gerritsen - grandson of the late and much believed Mormon or LDS Church apostle Joseph B. Wirthlin. In this series, Greg shares with us many fascinating stories about his experiences with his grandfather including: The tendency of LDS church members to overly worship General Authorities, along with the unhealthy obsession some Mormons have with "access" to General Authorities. The undying love Elder Wirthlin had for his wife (Elisa), his family, and for football. The extent to which nepotism, cronyism, and patronage play a part in the selection of LDS church General Authorities. The downsides/sacrifices of being an LDS church Apostle/General Authority. The existence of divisions and "cliques" in the LDS church quorum of the 12 Apostles. The unhealthy pressures and expectations put on the children and grandchildren of LDS General Authorities, that often lead to a familial emphasis on "public appearance" over healthy relationships. The "code" that exists within families of LDS General Authorities to never do or say anything to bring dishonor to the family name or church, including speaking out about a loss of faith, which leads many descendants of LDS apostles to lie about and/or hide their loss of faith. Episode Show Notes ===== Mormon Stories Thanks Our Generous Donors!   Help us continue to deliver quality content by becoming a donor today: One-time or recurring donation through Donorbox Support us on Patreon Pick “Mormon Stories” as your charity on Amazon Smile or through the Amazon App    Our Platforms: Mormon Stories Blog Patreon Spotify Apple Podcasts   Contact us: MormonStories@gmail.com    Mormon Stories Podcast PO Box 171085 Salt Lake City, UT 84117   Social Media: Insta: @mormstories Tiktok: @mormstories Join the Discord =====   Mormon Stories Thanks Our Generous Donors!   Help us continue to deliver quality content by becoming a donor today: One-time or recurring donation through Donorbox Support us on Patreon Pick “Mormon Stories” as your charity on Amazon Smile or through the Amazon App    Our Platforms: Mormon Stories Blog Patreon Spotify Apple Podcasts   Contact us: MormonStories@gmail.com    Mormon Stories Podcast PO Box 171085 Salt Lake City, UT 84117   Social Media: Insta: @mormstories Tiktok: @mormstories Join the Discord
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Sep 16, 2022 • 2h 28min

1660: Why do Ex-Mormons Appear So Angry? w/ John Larsen & Carah Burrell

[TW] Abuse, suicide Carah B, John L, and John D go over the tropes and stereotypes of "hateful" ex-Mormons. Episode Show Notes ________ Donate to support John/Carah Show for Mormon Expressions Mormon Expressions Podcast on Spotify Nuancehoe/Carah Burrell’s Channel John Larsen’s Channel =====   Mormon Stories Thanks Our Generous Donors!   Help us continue to deliver quality content by becoming a donor today: One-time or recurring donation through Donorbox Support us on Patreon Pick “Mormon Stories” as your charity on Amazon Smile or through the Amazon App    Our Platforms: Mormon Stories Blog Patreon Spotify Apple Podcasts   Contact us: MormonStories@gmail.com    Mormon Stories Podcast PO Box 171085 Salt Lake City, UT 84117   Social Media: Insta: @mormstories Tiktok: @mormstories Join the Discord  
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Sep 15, 2022 • 1h 42min

1659: Word of Wisdom w/ LDS Discussions - 20

John and Mike discuss the origins and influences around Joseph Smith and the Creation of the Word of Wisdom. Episode Show Notes =====   Mormon Stories Thanks Our Generous Donors!   Help us continue to deliver quality content by becoming a donor today: One-time or recurring donation through Donorbox Support us on Patreon Pick “Mormon Stories” as your charity on Amazon Smile or through the Amazon App  Our Platforms: Mormon Stories Blog Patreon Spotify Apple Podcasts   Contact us: MormonStories@gmail.com    Mormon Stories Podcast PO Box 171085 Salt Lake City, UT 84117   Social Media: Insta: @mormstories Tiktok: @mormstories Join the Discord
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Sep 14, 2022 • 1h 22min

1658: Tough Questions for John Dehlin - Patrick Mason Pt 3

Patrick Mason returns to flip the script and put John under scrutiny! Patrick Q. Mason holds the Leonard J. Arrington Chair of Mormon History and Culture at USU. He has written or edited several books, including Proclaim Peace: The Restoration’s Answer to an Age of Conflict (Maxwell Institute and Deseret Book, 2021); Mormonism and Violence: The Battles of Zion (Cambridge University Press, 2019); What Is Mormonism? A Student's Introduction (Routledge, 2017); Out of Obscurity: Mormonism since 1945, co-edited with John Turner (Oxford University Press, 2016); Directions for Mormon Studies in the Twenty-First Century (University of Utah Press, 2016); and The Mormon Menace: Violence and Anti-Mormonism in the Postbellum South (Oxford University Press, 2011). He was a Fulbright Scholar in Romania in 2015 and is a past president of the Mormon History Association. Professor Mason is frequently consulted by the national and international media on stories related to Mormon culture and history. He teaches courses on Mormonism, American religious history, and religion, violence, and peacebuilding. 1656-1658: A Scholarly Defense of Mormonism - Patrick Mason Patrick Mason Patrick Mason (@patrickqmason) / Twitter Planted: Belief and Belonging in an Age of Doubt  Proclaim Peace: The Restoration’s Answer to an Age of Conflict  Restoration: God’s Call to the 21st Century World  Patrick Mason’s other books ===== Mormon Stories Thanks Our Generous Donors! Help us continue to deliver quality content by becoming a donor today: One-time or recurring donation through Donorbox Support us on Patreon Pick “Mormon Stories” as your charity on Amazon Smile or through the Amazon App  Our Platforms: Mormon Stories Blog Patreon Spotify Apple Podcasts Contact us: MormonStories@gmail.com  Mormon Stories Podcast PO Box 171085 Salt Lake City, UT 84117 Social Media: Insta: @mormstories Tiktok: @mormstories Join the Discord

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