

The Vietnamese Boat People
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The Vietnamese Boat People podcast is stories of hope, survival and resilience. Between 1975 to 1992, almost two million Vietnamese risked their lives to flee oppression and hardship after the Vietnam War, in one of the largest mass exoduses in modern history. Escaping by boat, many found freedom in foreign land, many were captured and brutally punished, and many did not survive the journey. This population of people are known as the ‘Vietnamese Boat People‘ and these are their stories.
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We are a 501(c)3 tax-deductible organization. Thank you for your support!
Support the show and the mission to elevate our stories at www.vietnameseboatpeople.org/donate
We are a 501(c)3 tax-deductible organization. Thank you for your support!
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May 10, 2023 • 29min
Mai American
Kevin Truong was born in a refugee camp. His mom fled Việt Nam with his two older sisters, while two months pregnant with him. Kevin grew up in Oregon ashamed of his immigrant mother and how un-American their lives felt. For the past ten years Kevin has been working on a documentary called Mai American. The film is about a 70-year-old Vietnamese American refugee living in Oregon who writes down her life story, indelibly shaped by the War in Việt Nam. As she shares what she has written with Kevin, they begin separate but parallel journeys confronting the traumas of their past and the emotional divide in their present.The film is more than just a story about a Vietnamese refugee, or the immigrant experience, it is an American story and at the heart of it, a story about the relationship between a mother and a son.
Mai American is one of five film projects participating in the 2023 DocPitch, a film pitching competition presented by the California Film Institute. https://www.doclands.com/docpitch-mai-american/
Episode Credits:
Executive Producer: Tracey Nguyễn Mang
Associate Producer: Saoli Nguyễn
VBP theme music: Clarity, Paulina Vo
Other music: Fugetsu, SAYURI HAYASHI EGNELL; Somewhere Ahead, DANIEL KAEDE
Mai American trailer: courtesy of Kevin Truong

Apr 14, 2023 • 40min
Buried Ruins
Buried Ruins is a play written by Vietnamese American actor and playwright, Carolina Đỗ . It started out as a series of interviews that Carolina did with her parents, over the course of almost nine years, and turned into a personal writing project about memory and wishful dreams. The play is centered around a series of torturously absurd family dinners interrupted by glitches of memories of the past. It is a reflection of Carolina’s own experiences about Vietnamese parents and daughters trying to get through to one another despite generational trauma and the force of cultural assimilation. The play premiered in a staged reading in New York City with an all Vietnamese team, both onstage and backstage. This episode features discussions with Carolina, "Buried Ruins" director Cara Hinh, and actor Bi Jean Ngo. The conversation delves into the making of "Buried Ruins", the process of learning about one's parents, and what it’s like to be Vietnamese American in the theater industry.
Note: This episode contains some adult language that may not be appropriate for all ages.
Episode Credits:
Executive Producer: Tracey Nguyễn Mang
Associate Producer: Saoli Nguyễn
VBP theme music: Clarity, Paulina Vo
Other music: A Certain Shade of Blue: Paper Twins, Inside Clarity: Synthetic Tides

Mar 14, 2023 • 49min
Live Episode! Making Before Me w/Lisa Phu
Lisa Phu is an Alaska-based journalist and the creator of "Before Me", a limited series chronicling her mother’s journey to America. Lisa has always wanted to record her mom's story but never quite found the right moment, until she gave birth to her first child in 2016 and her mom came to care for them both. During that visit, Lisa's mom finally shared the real story about growing up in Cambodia, fleeing genocide by the Khmer Rouge, surviving as a gold dealer in Vietnam, building a home in America while navigating the fallout and traumas of war… and carrying the future of her children throughout the journey. Lisa shares her 5-year journey in making the series from the first day she pressed record to releasing the story, Before Me with Self Evident Media.
"Before Me" is a 5-part story that follows one woman’s life, from Cambodia to America, over the course of decades. But it’s also a long overdue conversation between mother and daughter about their family’s history — through war and violence, separation and loss, endings and beginnings. To make Before Me, Lisa was awarded an Individual Artist Grant from the Juneau Arts & Humanities Council and did a residency at Alderworks Alaska Writers & Artists Retreat. She was an AIR New Voices scholar in 2017 and an AIR Edit Mode fellow in 2021.
Photo: Lan Phu holds her granddaughter Acacia in 2016 Oct
Episode Credits:
Executive Producer: Tracey Nguyen Mang
Editing Support: Matt Young
VBP theme music: Clarity, Paulina Vo
Other music: Free Mind: Wildflowers, In-Between Heartbeats: Headlund

Dec 14, 2022 • 30min
Bonus Episode: Before Me
PodSwap with Self Evident podcast!
Before Me is a limited series launched by Self Evident with Alaska-based journalist Lisa Phu, chronicling her mother’s journey from Cambodia to America over the course of decades. The story unfolds between Lisa and her mother Lan as the two care for Lisa's first born daughter — and for the first time, Lan feels ready to share her own experiences fully with Lisa, on tape. But it’s also a long overdue conversation between mother and daughter about their family’s history — through war and violence, separation and loss, endings and beginnings. Because while we may never fully understand the reality of those who came before us, every story is a chance to get closer.
Listen to the full show at Self Evident podcast
Episode Credits:
Created, written, and produced by Lisa Phu
Edited by Julia Shu
Fact checking by Harsha Nahata and Tiffany Bui
Sound design by James Boo
Additional support from Cathy Erway
Original theme music by Avery Stewart
Additional music by Blue Dot Sessions
Audio engineering by Dave Waldron and Timothy Lou Ly
Cover art and show name created by Christine Carpenter
Audience engagement by Rekha Radhakrishnan
Thanks to Ben Kiernan for participating in the research and reporting process
Huge thanks and gratitude to Lan Phu
“Before Me” is a Self Evident Media production. The show’s Executive Producers are James Boo, Lisa Phu, and Ken Ikeda.
This project is also supported in part by the Juneau Arts & Humanities Council and the City and Borough of Juneau.
Thanks to the Alderworks Alaska Writers & Artists Retreat for the residency they provided for this project.

Nov 30, 2022 • 1h 8min
Bonus Episode: Suzanne Thi Hien Hook
PodSwap with Seven Million Bikes Podcast!
Suzanne Thi Hien Hook was a baby found on the street and placed in an orphanage during the Vietnam War. She’s Amerasian; with a Vietnamese mother and an African-American soldier father. She was adopted into a white English family and moved to the UK when she was just three years old. Unfortunately it was not the beginning of a happy childhood that many would expect. Despite an abusive upbringing she became a trained chef, gained a business degree and started a successful company. In 2006 she visited Vietnam for the first time to connect with her roots. That experience changed the trajectory of her life. There she met other children in orphanages which had a profound effect on her. When she returned to the UK, she realized money didn’t buy happiness, and sold all of her possessions to start Allambie orphanage in Vietnam. She wanted every child, orphaned, adopted, fostered, or living in the streets to be cared for, and most importantly wanted to give them a sense of belonging.
This episode contains topics on abuse.
Episode Credits:
Seven Million Bikes Podcast Host & Producer: Niall Mackay
Seven Million Bikes theme music composed by Lewis Wright
VBP Host & Executive Producer: Tracey Nguyen Mang
VBP theme music: Clarity, Paulina Vo

Nov 16, 2022 • 31min
Bonus Episode: Listening Party
The stories we share on Vietnamese Boat People are often harrowing tales of people surviving adversities and finding strength and resilience to move forward. Diving into their family histories and trauma, our interviewees can all be described as brave and introspective. And the same can also be said about our listeners. Over the years, listeners have reached out to us sharing how the podcast has given them a newfound connection with the culture. Our desire to bring people together to share stories and experiences, along with inspiration from podcasting colleagues Self Evident and PRX, led us to organize the first VBP listening party (kinda like a book club!).
Several members of the VBP team met up virtually to listen to and discuss episode 31: The Escape. It was our first time doing this as a group, and the experience was recorded in order to serve as a guide for anyone who wishes to do something similar. Our conversation became a deep dive into one of the most intricate stories we’ve featured, as well as a behind-the-scenes discussion about how the episode came together. We hope this inspires you to host your own listening party with students, communities or just with friends and families.
Featuring: Tracey Nguyen Mang, Saoli Nguyen, Matt Young, Bella Nguyen, Anthony Nguyen, and Brandon Nguyen
The video version of this episode can be found on the VBP YouTube channel and on our videocast page.
Episode Credits:
Associate Producer: Saoli Nguyen
VBP theme music: Clarity, Paulina Vo
Other music: Hop In (Instrumental Version): Iso Indies

Oct 26, 2022 • 1h 6min
Bonus Episode: Healing Thru Writing
Family Histories & Emotional Truths: Healing Thru Writing
An intimate discussion with three Vietnamese-Americans who turned to writing as a way to confront and reconcile with their histories and upbringings. Featuring:
Alison Hong Nguyen Lihalakha, author of Salted Plums ;
Christina Vo, author of The Veil Between Two Worlds ;
Len Tran, author of Split Up By The Sea
Replay of the discussion is also available on Vietnamese Boat People Youtube channel
Episode Credits:
Host & Executive Producer: Tracey Nguyen Mang
Supported by New Jersey Council for the Humanities 2022-23 Action Grant and Quill Hawk Publishing in effort to inspire the community to learn about family histories and contribute stories to the VBP Journeys digital collection at www.vietnameseboatpeople.org/journeys

Jul 27, 2022 • 37min
Ambiguous Grief
Thi and Phuong Nam Doan are two sisters born in Portland, Oregon. In 2020, their mom was diagnosed with lewy body dementia, a type of progressive dementia that leads to a decline in thinking, reasoning and independent function. The family has been navigating how to take care of a woman who used to take care of them. Their cousin, Andy Nguyen remembers how his aunt has always been like a second mother to him. The three grew up as a very close unit and they share how much the mom is the foundation in their lives. She is the matriarch of their family, the eldest who always cared for her younger siblings, the driving force behind the parents' escape from Vietnam and the caregiver to many. The recent news of the diagnosis has been hard for the family, and also the mom who has a hard time accepting it, feeling guilt and shame for putting a burden on her family. The three cousins share how they are navigating ambiguous loss/grief, a term that describes the grief one may feel for a loved one who has dementia.
If you or someone you know has been diagnosed with dementia, here are some resources shared by Thi Doan.
https://www.asianmhc.org/ has a directory of Asian American therapists
Family Caregiver Handout in Vietnamese
Fact Sheet on Dementia in Vietnamese
Information on Dementia in Vietnamese
For Lewy Body Dementia
For Alzheimer's Dementia
A podcast by Bambu care called "What the Dementia"
Episode Cover Art: https://www.thidoanart.com
4thWorldPress: The Day I Woke Up Different
Episode Credits:
Executive Producer: Tracey Nguyen Mang
Associate Producer: Tricia Vuong
VBP theme music: Clarity, Paulina Vo
Other music: Heat Dream: Patrick Latham, Marigold Spring: Daniel Kaede, Recovering Hope: Spirits of Our Dreams, First Time for Everything: Trevor Kowalski

Jun 14, 2022 • 48min
Live Episode! The Magic Fish
Trung Lê Nguyễn was born in 1990 in a refugee camp in Palawan, Philippines. His parents escaped Vietnam by boat and resettled in Minnesota, USA shortly after Trung was born. He grew up learning English with his parents through picture books and was always specifically drawn to fairytales. He studied Art History in college and eventually found himself gravitating towards being an artist. Trung's list of accomplishments and published works includes DC Comics, Oni Press, Boom! Studios, and Image Comics. The MAGIC FISH is his debut graphic novel. It is about an immigrant family, interweaving fairytales with the story of a young Vietnamese boy struggling to find the right words to tell his parents about his sexuality. THE MAGIC FISH is a warm and loving story that reminds young readers that they should be able to expect those who love them to accept them for who they are. In our conversation with Trung, he shares his own experiences of telling his parents he is gay.
Credits:
Executive Producer: Tracey Nguyen Mang
Sound Editor: Matt Young
VBP theme music: Clarity, Paulina Vo
Other Music: Sun Therapy (instrumental + full mix), Sum Wave

May 31, 2022 • 1h 7min
2022 Mỹ Việt Story Slam
Many of us have experienced losses that have changed our lives. We have lost loved ones to war, harsh living conditions and arduous migrations or to illnesses, age and more recently to the pandemic. But sometimes the loss can be an invaluable object, a community, a place we call home or a state of being. The process of losing someone or something that is irreplaceable can turn our world upside down. However, the journey to heal can lead us to finding ourselves again. For 2022, we invited storytellers
Alexander Nguyen, Qui-Shawn Tran, Mai Tran, Trinh Mai, and siblings Huong and Karin Hanh Nguyen, to share their experiences of loss in our 3rd annual Mỹ (American) Việt (Vietnamese) Story Slam event, ‘LOST & FOUND’. To view the stories visit https://www.vietnameseboatpeople.org/2022-storytellers
Credits:
Executive Producer: Tracey Nguyen Mang
Sound Editor: Matt Young
Event Producers: Megan Do, Saoli Nguyen, Tricia Vuong
VBP theme music: Clarity, Paulina Vo
Other Music: Midnight Sunlight (instrumental + full mix), Tap Machines