

Charter Cities Podcast
Mark Lutter
The Charter Cities Podcast explores how charter cities can help solve some of the largest challenges of the 21st century, from urbanization to global poverty to migration. Each episode Mark Lutter interviews experts in international development, new cities, finance, entrepreneurship, and governance, to develop a better understanding of the various aspects of charter cities
If you want to learn more visit the Charter Cities Institute at https://www.chartercitiesinstitute.org/
If you want to learn more visit the Charter Cities Institute at https://www.chartercitiesinstitute.org/
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Aug 5, 2025 • 16min
Freedom Cities Podcast - Episode 8: Tom Bell
In this Freedom Cities episode, Professor Tom W. Bell dives deep into the world of legal innovation and special jurisdictions. A law professor turned legal systems designer, Tom shares his journey from academia to advising real-world projects like the Catawba Digital Economic Zone and Free Society’s forthcoming decentralized city. He explains Ulex—his open-source legal system—and walks us through his proposed “Freedom Cities Act,” a bold legislative framework that could turn underutilized federal lands into hubs of regulatory experimentation and economic vitality. It’s a masterclass in freedom, law, and possibility.

Jul 29, 2025 • 1h 8min
Jarrad Hope on Blockchain Communities and Post-Nation-State Governance
In this engaging discussion, Jarrad Hope, founder of the Logos Network and author of 'Farewell to Westphalia,' explores the decline of traditional nation-states and the rise of blockchain communities. He discusses how these technologies enable new forms of governance and public goods, challenging the very fabric of state power. Key topics include the evolution of governance through decentralized systems, the transformative use of blockchain in property rights, and the resilience of communities navigating censorship in authoritarian regimes.

Jul 21, 2025 • 12min
Freedom Cities Podcast - Episode 7: Alex Voss
In Episode 7 of the Freedom Cities Podcast, Mark Lutter sits down with Alex Voss, CFO of Tipolis, a company pioneering the development of new cities around the world based on private governance models. Alex shares his journey from investment banking to building freedom-enhancing urban communities and dives into the evolving global landscape for charter and free cities. From Tipolis’ new project in Brunei to the potential of Freedom Cities legislation in the U.S., this conversation offers a deep look at how private cities are transforming economic development and governance. Alex also highlights the growing investor interest in this space and why well-designed cities are just as important as regulatory innovation.

Jun 27, 2025 • 59min
Siaka Stevens on Building Sherbro Island City
In Episode 74 of the Charter Cities Podcast, host Mark Lutter speaks with Siaka Stevens, co-founder of Sherbro Alliance Partners and the visionary behind Sherbro Island City in Sierra Leone. With the recent ratification of their agreement with the government, Sherbro Island now has special administrative status and strong legal protections—opening the door to serious investor interest. Siaka discusses next steps, including a phased development approach beginning in Bonthe Town, exploring sectors like tourism, carbon credits, aquaculture, and e-governance. He highlights the importance of governance as the “operating system” of the city and shares how the New Cities Summit helped him realize that a global movement for new city development is gaining momentum. Siaka closes with his vision of success: a city designed for people, where the spiritual vitality of everyday life is just as important as economic metrics.

May 23, 2025 • 18min
Freedom Cities Podcast - Episode 6: David Ernst
In this episode of the Freedom Cities Podcast, we speak with David Ernst, founder of Secure Internet Voting, about the urgent need for innovation in democratic systems. David argues that while voting is foundational to democracy, its design is outdated, especially in an era of digital communication and governance. We explore what it would take to make online voting secure, transparent, and legitimate, and why he believes charter cities can be critical testing grounds for political innovation. From trust-building in new cities to redefining digital citizenship, this conversation is a thought-provoking deep dive into the future of governance.

May 16, 2025 • 43min
Three Wyoming State Senators on Freedom Cities, Federal Land, and Innovation
This episode features a conversation with Wyoming State Senators Dan Dockstader, Brian Boner, and Chris Rothfuss, hosted by Carl Peterson of the Charter Cities Institute. The discussion centers on the concept of Freedom Cities, first introduced in national discourse by former President Donald Trump, and how Wyoming—home to abundant federal land and cutting-edge energy projects—might serve as a testing ground. The senators provide a deep dive into the economic profiles of their districts, ranging from tourism and agriculture to energy production and higher education. A recurring theme is the challenge and opportunity posed by federal regulations, particularly around nuclear energy, and how local innovation can be empowered by streamlining policy frameworks. The episode provides a timely, insightful look at how state-level leadership can drive national conversations around economic dynamism and regulatory reform.

May 6, 2025 • 1h 60min
Michael Muthukrishna on Cultural Evolution and the Human Advantage
In this episode of the Charter Cities Podcast, Mark speaks with Michael Muthukrishna, Associate Professor of Economic Psychology at LSE, about how cultural evolution explains the rise of human civilization. They explore why Homo sapiens prevailed over Neanderthals, the role of self-domestication and social learning in societal development, and how religion and cooperation have shaped social complexity. The conversation covers major historical shifts—from agriculture to the Industrial Revolution—and examines how modern challenges like declining fertility, institutional stagnation, and academic conformity can be better understood through the lens of cultural evolution.

Apr 28, 2025 • 9min
Freedom Cities Podcast - Episode 5: Wyoming State Senators Brian Boner, Chris Rothfuss, and Dan Dockstader
In this episode of the Freedom Cities Podcast, host Carl Peterson speaks with three Wyoming State Senators—Brian Boner (District 2), Chris Rothfuss (District 9), and Dan Dockstader (District 16)—about the bold future of economic development in Wyoming through the lens of Freedom Cities. The conversation explores Wyoming’s unique challenges and opportunities, including how the checkerboard pattern of federal land ownership complicates development and how land swaps could help unlock much-needed access and growth.

Apr 14, 2025 • 14min
Freedom Cities Podcast - Episode 4: Patri Friedman
In this episode of the Freedom Cities Podcast, Mark Lutter is joined by Patri Friedman, a pioneer in the new cities movement. As the founder of the Seasteading Institute and Managing Partner at Pronomos Capital, Patri has spent the last two decades pushing for new approaches to governance through the creation of innovative urban developments. They explore why Africa represents the most promising frontier for urban innovation, how autonomy and special economic zones can drive development, and what it takes to make new cities work in practice. The episode also addresses key challenges, including financing, talent, and how to build trust in unproven governance models. For listeners interested in the intersection of economics, cities, and systems change, this episode offers a unique perspective from someone who has been at the forefront of the movement to rethink how and where we live.

Mar 24, 2025 • 8min
Freedom Cities Podcast - Episode 3: Isaiah Taylor
Isaiah Taylor, CEO and Founder of Valar Atomics, joins the Freedom Cities Podcast to discuss their game-changing advancements in nuclear energy. Learn about their $19 million seed round, their first reactor project in the Philippines, and how scalable nuclear power could transform American industry by driving down energy costs. Isaiah also dives into the regulatory hurdles facing nuclear innovation in the U.S. and the exciting possibilities for reindustrialization and advanced manufacturing. Don’t miss this electrifying conversation about the future of energy and freedom!