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Lorenzo Hagerty
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Dec 17, 2011 • 1h 22min
Podcast 294 – “The Genesis of Occupy Wall Street”
Guest speakers: David Graeber & Tim Pool
PROGRAM NOTES:
Today's podcast takes a look back at some of the roots of the current Occupy Movement on the eve of the first anniversary of the death of Mohamed Bouazizi, whose self-immolation marked the beginning of the Arab Spring. Today is also the eve of the third anniversary of Occupy Wall Street, and so I have put together an audio collage that ranges from some early sounds of the movement to interviews with David Graeber and Tim Pool, as well as some comments by fellow saloner Jaret, and a couple of sound bites from Lawrence Lessig and Senator Bernie Sanders to round things out.
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Links to topics discussed in this podcast:
Battle in Seattle
The Daily Show with Jon Stewart - Lawrence Lessig Interview
Brian Leher Program with David Graeber
Majority Report interview with Tim Pool
Jaret Johnston's FEEDBACK ART

Dec 10, 2011 • 1h 26min
Podcast 293 – “The Power of Art and the TAZ”
Guest speaker: Peter Lamborn Wilson
PROGRAM NOTES:
[NOTE: The following quotations are by Peter Lamborn Wilson.]
“Why are artists still meddling, or mediating, between people and their desires?”
“All livelihoods are arts, from midwifery to war, nothing is mere labor.” [In reference to gift economies.]
“The artist sacrifices talent for money. The audience sacrifices money for talent.”
“One can no longer distinguish between cops and cop-culture, the media-induced hallucination of a society designed by its lawyers and police.”
“Ten minutes in a video store should convince any impartial observer that we live in a police state of consciousness, far more pervasive than the Nazis.”
“The first step in any real utopia is to look in the mirror and demand to know my true desires.”
“I will argue that illegality means more than mere law-breaking. Illegality as a positive attribute of the Temporary Autonomous Zone implies that the very structure, or deepest motivation of the TAZ-group necessitates the overcoming of consensus values, and that this is true when even no statute or regulation has been broken.”
“The Temporary Autonomous Zone should serve as the Matrix for the emergence of a Sorelian myth of uprising.”
“The Temporary Autonomous Zone cannot be realized solely as a hedonic exercise any more than the revolution can be realized without dancing, as Emma Goldman put it.”
“Today quilts. Tomorrow, perhaps, The Uprising!”
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BrainMeats Podcast
Episode 1 Occupy BrainMeats
The inaugural episode of the BrainMeats podcast is devoted to the Occupy movement and what hackers and makers can do to support the protesters on the ground. Willow spoke over Skype to Ari Lacenski, Eleanor Saitta, Matthew Borgatti, Rubin Starset, and Smári McCarthy about the history of OWS, the meaning of illegibility within the movement, software tools for protesters, and more.

Dec 1, 2011 • 1h 32min
Podcast 292 – Makana the Mighty!
Guest speaker: Makana
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PROGRAM NOTES:
[NOTE: All quotations are by Makana.]
“This whole war that we're fighting is a war of consciousness versus ignorance, of controlling human behavior by controlling people's thoughts, by directing their awareness.”
“There's always going to be disagreements as to what the solutions are, and even what the problem is, but if people in their own personal process start to face their own fear and let go of the prison that they are in, and that prison is the concern about what someone else thinks of them, if they get over that then they can be free. And then it's up to them to facilitate the change they want to see. But we have to at least help them to get to that point, and that's what I try to do with my music.”
“The only way we can bring about a revolution of freedom is to bring about a revolution of perception.”
“There are millions of people like me, who care about their future and will say something.”
“Aloha isn't about representing yourself in a way that people will like you. Aloha is about valuing the well being of the other person, because you realize that you're interconnected to them by the nature of life.”
“I know this sounds kind of silly, but for years I've been thinking to myself, it's the musicians' fault why things are so fucked up, because they have been programming people to not care for so many years now. And hopefully the musicians will start to not be afraid to say the things they really want to say, because music does something to you. It hits your emotions, and it goes right past that part of your brain that controls you.”
“When we can transcend this illusion that we are so different from each other, then we become powerful.”
“I feel that in the process of what we're attempting to facilitate, to consider how people orient themselves to these issues is of utmost importance. Not just to present these issues, but to really know how to get inside and behind the barriers that have been put in place there by systems, an education system and a media that work to create an unthinking workforce, and people that don't challenge authority and status quo. So I'm a big fan of understanding how nature works.”
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ALSO SEE:
How I Stopped Worrying and Learned to Love the OWS Protests
by Matt Taibbi

Nov 22, 2011 • 2h 14min
Podcast 291 – RAW “The ‘I’ In The Triangle” Part 2
Guest speaker: Robert Anton Wilson
PROGRAM NOTES:
[NOTE: All quotations are by Robert Anton Wilson.]
“I think we're in a period of fractal chaos, and the whole system is collapsing, and every week is a new surprise.” (1990)
“Things are happening so fast that the only prediction I'll make is that everything is going to happen faster than we expect it.”
“That's why I don't believe in monolithic conspiracy theories, there's one group that runs everything. If there was one group that runs everything the world would make a little sense.”
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This program was made possible by the copyright owner, Joe Matheny, and the publisher, The Original Falcon Press.
Tim Pool, Journalist Extraordinaire, (link to his live video feed from Occupy Wall Street)
GENERAL STRIKE, by Moe Shinola
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Nov 16, 2011 • 1h 55min
Podcast 290 – RAW “The ‘I’ In The Triangle” Part 1
Guest speaker: Robert Anton Wilson
PROGRAM NOTES:
[NOTE: All quotations are by Robert Anton Wilson.]
“There actually have been studies done at many schools in the big cities where IQ has measurably decreases from the entering of grammar school to graduation from high school. The longer they're there they dumber they get. And some people think that's an accident, or an oversight, or a mistake, but that is the function of the public schools. The function of the public schools is to stop thinking.”
“I perforce had to invent this style of paradoxes to prevent people from thinking they're getting the truth out of my books. What you're getting out of my books is my guesses, my hunches, sometimes my prejudices. … I don't claim to know the truth.”
“And as a matter of fact, governments don't act, governments only react. The bankers make the decisions, and then governments decide how are we going to adjust to this. Government can't do anything unless the bank gives them the money to do it.”
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Links and videos mentioned in this podcast
Robert Anton Wilson (DVD) “The 'I' in the Triangle” from The Original Falcon Press
Artist, saloner, and one of the Brooklyn Bridge 700:
Ken Vallario (Web site)
Ken Vallario's story of his arrest
Information request about
Children of the Revolution: Tune Back In (2005)
OCCUPY STREAM (Video feeds from numerous Occupy sites)
MAKANA the Mighty

Nov 9, 2011 • 2h 3min
Podcast 289 – Robert Anton Wilson “The Lost Studio Session”
Guest speaker: Robert Anton Wilson
PROGRAM NOTES:
[NOTE: All quotations are by Robert Anton Wilson.]
“You know what family values means, that's hating the same people your grandfather hated.”
“Information intrinsically tends to produce more information, and it breeds faster than rabbits.”
“We never do reach limits. That's one of the big fallacies of our time, is the idea of limits. There are no limits.”
“We are graduating from being terrestrial mortals to becoming cosmic immortals. We are becoming the gods that we imagined a long time ago. I think that's where evolution has been pointing.”
“I think we've passed over the Abyss. Getting through the Hitler and Stalin eras and Auschwitz and Hiroshima and all those horrors we've gone over the Abyss, and now we are graduating into cosmic immortals, as startling as it sounds.”
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Links mentioned in this podcast
Occupy Movement eMail: lorenzo (at) occupysalon (dot) us
TERENCE MCKENNA: BEYOND 2012
Constance Demby
Joe Matheny's G-Spot Podcast
The Original Falcon Press
BB's Bungalow
OccupyStream.com
The Declaration of Desperation
Michael Ruppert's Web Site

Nov 2, 2011 • 1h 37min
Podcast 288 – “What’s So Great About Mushrooms?” Part 2
Guest speaker: Terence McKenna
PROGRAM NOTES:
[NOTE: All quotations are by Terence McKenna.]
“It's impossible to stop the forward march of information.”
“This is the chaos at the end of history.”
“Because our culture crisis is so much deeper [than during the Renaissance], we are casting back to 20,000 or 30,000 years back into the past.”
“I think the task of finding the extraterrestrial is a task of recognizing it when you find it.”
“When talking about evolution it is important to remember that the cardinal dictum of Darwinian mechanics is that there is no teleology. That means that evolution is not moving toward something. All notion of purpose has to be given up. It isn't that things evolve or move toward higher forms. It's just that things complexify, and this complexification gives rise to what we define as higher form.”
“Culture is sort of a shockwave which follows behind language. Culture is fossilized language.”
“One of the reasons I think these psychedelic compounds still are important is because they catalyze the evolution of language.”
“I see the whole world we're living in as basically the legacy of LSD.”
“The dreams of the alchemists of the 16th Century have been entirely realized in the technical accomplishments of the 20th Century.”
“[Acid] heads are in charge of designing the cutting edge of culture.”
“But there are no professionals in the field of self-exploration. That's everybody's job. I mean, you all are Ph.D.s in consciousness exploration, or if you're not you should be, because what else have you got going?”
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Occupy Video Streams
Livestream.com
Ustream.com
OccupyStream.com
Links to David Graeber's Work
Wikipedia entry about David Graeber
Occupy Wall Street rediscovers the radical imagination by David Graeber
A conversation with anarchist David Graeber about anthropology on the Charlie Rose program
Debt: The First 5,000 Years by David Graeber

Oct 28, 2011 • 1h 9min
Podcast 287 – “What’s So Great About Mushrooms?” Part 1
Guest speaker: Terence McKenna
PROGRAM NOTES:
[NOTE: All quotations are by Terence McKenna.]
“There is no scientific truth, or new paradigm, can arrive in a vacuum vis-à-vis the opinions of the general informed public. If it doesn't fly with the general informed public it doesn't matter what degree of internal rigor it has, an idea is probably doomed to a kind of , or a kind of obscurity."
“How are we to relate to the plants which intoxicate? Do they drive us mad, or do they return us to the “religio”, to our own origins? Are we to see the states of mind which they invoke as tremendously alien, or are we to see them as, in fact, a way of going back to the primary situation in which everything that we call human found genesis?”
“If you want to change people's minds about something you have to get scientists to change their minds.”
“It's actually cooperation is what nature seeks to consolidate and conserve. And it is the species which can make itself most user-friendly to its neighbor species which actually survives.”
“The de-sacrilizing of natural space is the process of cutting it into grids and erecting flat, planer surfaces along those grids to cut out the influx of energy that is part of the natural world.”
“Whatever Christianity was, it was a historical episode where the most patriarchal wrath extant on the planet was suddenly pumped full of so much energy that everything else was just shoved to the wall.”
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“Homeless Land 9” by permission of singer/songwriter John A. Tackett
OccupyStream.com

Oct 18, 2011 • 1h 24min
Podcast 286 – “The Revolution Continues” Part 3
Guest speaker: Timothy Leary
PROGRAM NOTES:
[NOTE: All quotations are by Timothy Leary.]
“Now, LSD is a dangerous drug because it's basically a post-terrestrial experience. And for caterpillars to start taking a butterfly drug, it gives you perspectives, and forecasts what's to come.”
“There's perhaps less than ten percent of the population who should even consider, under the best circumstances of disciplined control, to take this drug, because LSD is not a hedonistic, laid-back, multi-orgasm drug. It really isn't. It's a neurological experience. It's a sixth circuit neuroelectric experience, and it's basically preparation for post-terrestrial life.”
“To summarize, I'm an evolutionary agent using electromagnetic energies to broadcast evolutionary signals. The signals are 'leave the planet', 'get smarter', and 'learn how to live as long as you want'.”
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Oct 10, 2011 • 1h 18min
Podcast 285 – “The Revolution Continues” Part 2
Guest speaker: Timothy Leary
PROGRAM NOTES:
[NOTE: All quotations are by Timothy Leary.]
“Looked at it pragmatically, the trick of taking intelligence tests is to get the highest score possible in terms of intelligence as defined by middle class intellectuals who designed the test.”
“It's the nature of the game that a philosopher who's proposing radical new ideas will be opposed by 80% of society.”
“My responsibility is to the genetic process and evolutionary process as I see it.”
“We have to be gentle with each other because we are going through a period of mutations.”
“I think, though, that there has never been a cultural change in history that was as profound, as pervasive, and as bloodless as the cultural revolution of the Sixties. . . . By and large it was a smiling revolution.”
“By and large I'm very proud of what happened in the Sixties, every aspect of our culture was reformed and revised and reviewed and improved.”
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Occupy Wall Street: The Most Important Thing in the World Now
By Naomi Klein, The Nation
Posted on October 6, 2011
Occupy Wall Street Links
Interview with Lorenzo on Joe Matheny's G-Spot Podcast


