

Psychedelic Salon
Lorenzo Hagerty
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Oct 9, 2013 • 1h 22min
Podcast 372 – “The Intentionality of Meaning”
Guest speaker: Terence McKenna
PROGRAM NOTES:
[NOTE: All quotations are by Terence McKenna.]
“The world is not made of anti-mu mesons, quarks, and photons, and electromagnetic fields. Reality is made of words.”
“Language is something that springs from the biological matrix, and the neurological matrix, within us.”
“Culture is more and more consciously becoming a project carried out in the domain of language by, for instance, propaganda both governmental and commercial.”
“Once they pledge allegiance to a given model of reality, then that absolves all necessity for further thought.”
“Television, introduced at the close of World War II, has become a form of electronic heroin, and it isn't even your trip. They don't even let you go on your own trip, you get a trip designed by Madison Avenue.”
“I'm not an advocate for everything that rolls out of the laboratory. I'm an advocate for things sanctioned by millennia of usage.”
“I'm not an advocate of drugs. I'm an advocate of psychedelics.”
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Oct 2, 2013 • 56min
Podcast 371 – “Civil Rights In Cyberspace”
Guest speaker: John Gilmore
PROGRAM NOTES:
[NOTE: All quotations are by John Gilmore.]
“Marijuana, it turns out, is three-quarters of the illegal drug problem, because it's three times as popular as all the other drugs put together. So if you can move marijuana out of the black market and into a legal and regulated market you've gotten rid of three-quarters of the crime, three-quarters of the violence, and three-quarters of the black market money. It changes the dynamics for the other drugs. It makes it much more of a small potatoes thing.”
“If you move away from [Google's] free services you can move away from the part of the Net that's the most heavily surveilled.”
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Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF)Defending Your Rights in the Digital World
John Gilmore's Home Page
Google has been secretly harvesting the passwords of all Wi-Fi devices everywhere

Sep 30, 2013 • 1h 31min
Podcast 370 – “Modeling Human History”
Guest speaker: Terence McKenna
PROGRAM NOTES:
[NOTE: All quotations are by Terence McKenna.]
“History is like self-reflection through the medium of language propelling itself into self-recognition.”
“Clearly, what is happening, I think, is there is a kind of global emergence of a new mental order.”
“The central figure in the archaic revival is the shaman.”
“We are caught in a tremendous historical crisis. And what we lack, in this crisis, is consciousness, whatever that means, the ability to integrate data about the situation we are in.”
“We are like coral animals in a vast reef of excreted technological material that is wired for solid state data transfer.”
“Notice that the whole story of Eden is the story of the struggle over a woman's relationship to a psychoactive plant.”
“The reason I am so passionately committed to the psychedelic thing is because I see it as radical, and if this is not the moment for radical solutions, what is?”
“What we need to change is our minds, that's the part that's doing us dirt and dragging us under. How can we change our minds.”
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Book mentioned in this podcast
The Great Drug War: And Rational Proposals To Turn The Tide
Arnold S. Trebach

Sep 17, 2013 • 1h 31min
Podcast 369 – “Timothy & Terence”
Guest speakers: Timothy Leary & Terence McKenna
Invitation to the opening of the Timoty Leary Archive at the New York Library. (Held on the second anniversary of the Occupy Movement.) :-)
PROGRAM NOTES:
[NOTE: All quotations are by Terence McKenna.]
“I know that I wouldn't be here if it weren't for Tim Leary. He was the pathfinder. He cut the way through the woods. He gave us all permission to be very much the people that we are tonight.”
“Alchemy is really the secret tradition of the redemption of spirit from matter.”
“What 'psychedelic' means is getting your mind out in front of you, by whatever means necessary, so that you can relate to it as a thing in the world and then work upon it.”
“Mind conjures miracles out of time.”
“You've been told from the cradle that the deck was stacked against you, fall of man, original sin, and so forth and so on. It's bullshit. It's absolute bullshit.”
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Books mentioned in this podcast
One Foot in the Future
Nina Graboi
Giordano Bruno and the Hermetic Tradition
By Frances A. Yates
Spiritual and Demonic Magic: From Ficino to Campanella (Magic in History)
D.P. Walker

Sep 10, 2013 • 1h 12min
Podcast 368 – “Psychedelics and the Feminine”
Guest speaker: Terence McKenna
PROGRAM NOTES:
[NOTE: All quotations are by Terence McKenna.]
“The Gaian process is more than a process. It is s self-reflecting entelechy of some sort.”
“It is curious that what these psychedelics do, on a scale of a community, is they release new ideas. . . . And that this is how culture moves forward. That culture is a phenomenon dependent on the generation of ideas, plans, notions, connections. So this is precisely what these compounds are doing.”
“What is always left out of descriptions of the psychedelic state, the deep psychedelic state, is how weird it is.”
“I finally realized that this 'place' that I kept bursting into [on a psychedelic experience] was somebody's idea of a playpen.”
“We [psychonauts] are all going to go into the books as pioneers, because it's too early for us to be anything else. There's no map, no finished database, just anecdotes of the crazy, crazy stuff that goes on. That's why it's so important to try and share [our stories].”
“The world isn't this unbelievably strange thing which is 'out there'. The world is this stranger-than-we-can-suppose thing which begins from the core of us out. That means nothing can be taken for granted. It can be taken apart. It can be put together many, many ways.”
“[DMT] is pure, one hundred per-cent magic. MAGIC. It's not a drug. It's an event. It's not something you do. It's something that happens to you.”
McKenna also describes a DMT experience as, “A collision with another modality.”
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Books Mentioned in this podcast
The Chalice and the Blade: Our History, Our Future
Riane Eisler
The Creative Explosion: An Inquiry into the Origins of Art and Religion (Cornell paperbacks)
The Botany and Chemistry of Hallucinogens (American Lecture Series)
Richard Evans Schultes
Plants of the Gods: Their Sacred, Healing, and Hallucinogenic Powers
Richard Evans Schultes, Albert Hofmann, Christian Rätsch

Sep 3, 2013 • 1h 37min
Podcast 367 – “The Evolution of a Psychedelic Thinker”
Guest speaker: Terence McKenna
PROGRAM NOTES:
[NOTE: All quotations are by Terence McKenna.]
“This is a very central part of the psychedelic attitude toward the world, to entertain all possibilities but to never commit to belief. Belief always being seen as a kind of trap, because if you belief something you are forever precluded from believing its opposite..”
“In a sense, sexuality is the built-in psychedelic experience that only a very few people manage to evade.”
“Eros is an ego-overwhelming, boundary dissolving, breakthrough creating force scripted into human life that is pretty intrinsically psychedelic.”
“One of the core elements of this psychedelic thing is freedom, on the broadest scale.”
“Nothing is as boundary dissolving, except for psychedelic compounds, as travel. Travel is up there.”
“I have nothing but scorn for all weird ideas other than my own.”
“Without an understanding and a familiarity of the psychedelic experience you should be sued for fraud if you're practicing psychotherapy.”
“The archaic revival is an invitation to historical humanity to view itself as a kind of a prodigal son.”
“What the psychedelics are for us as a species, rather than for each one of us as an individual, what they are for us as a species is an enzyme that catalyzes the language-making capacity.”
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Symbiosis Gathering 2013
The Transcendent Nature of Symbiosis Festival

Aug 26, 2013 • 54min
Podcast 366 – “Terence McKenna’s Suggested Reading List”
Guest speaker: Terence McKenna
PROGRAM NOTES:
[NOTE: All quotations are by Terence McKenna.]
“One of the things that people don't do enough of when they do psychedelic work is spend time in the library.”
“What I always hoped for out of the psychedelic voyaging was to bring back something. I always felt, and still feel, that that is the attitude with which you should go into these things.”
“I really think that the psychedelic realm is the realm of ideas, and that ideas which change the world come first from that place.”
“Life, carefully examined, is actually a form of allegorical literature with a very tight constructural grid laid over it.”
“The future holds no terrors for a person who knows how process inevitably unfolds. They are always right and with it each moment.”
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Terence's List (1987)
Psychedelics Encyclopedia
Peter Stafford
Hallucinogens : Cross-Cultural Perspectives
Marlene Dobkin De Rios
Hallucinogens and Shamanism (Galaxy Books)
Michael J. Harner
The Hallucinogens
A. Hoffer; H. Osmond
Science and Romance of Selected Herbs Used in Medicine and Religious Ceremony
Anthony K. Andoh
Narcotic Plants
William A. Emboden
The Botany and Chemistry of Hallucinogens (American Lecture Series)
Richard Evans Schultes
A New Science of Life: The Hypothesis of Morphic Resonance
Rupert Sheldrake
Plants of the Gods: Their Sacred, Healing, and Hallucinogenic Powers
Richard Evans Schultes, Albert Hofmann, Christian Rätsch
The Chalice and the Blade: Our History, Our Future
Riane Eisler
Psilocybin: Magic Mushroom Grower's Guide: A Handbook for Psilocybin Enthusiasts
O. T. Oss, O. N. Oeric
Codex Seraphinianus
Luigi Serafini
True Hallucinations: Being an Account of the Author's Extraordinary Adventures in the Devil's Paradise
Terence McKenna
The Invisible Landscape: Mind, Hallucinogens, and the I Ching
Terence McKenna, Dennis McKenna
Food of the Gods: The Search for the Original Tree of Knowledge A Radical History of Plants, Drugs, and Human Evolution
Terence McKenna
A few more suggestions from Lorenzo
The Psychedelic Experience: A Manual Based on the Tibetan Book of the Dead (Citadel Underground)
Timothy Leary
Ayahuasca Visions: The Religious Iconography of a Peruvian Shaman
Pablo Amaringo, Luis Luna
Be Here Now
Ram Dass
Entheogens and the Future of Religion
Edited by Robert Forte
Hallucinogens: A Reader (New Consciousness Reader)
Charles S. Grob
Higher Wisdom: Eminent Elders Explore the Continuing Impact of Psychedelics
Charles S. Grob
LSD My Problem Child: Reflections on Sacred Drugs, Mysticism and Science
Albert Hofmann
One Foot in the Future
Nina Graboi
Persephone's Quest: Entheogens and the Origins of Religion
R. Gordon Wasson, Stella Kramrisch, Dr. Carl Ruck, Jonathan Ott
Sisters of the Extreme: Women Writing on the Drug Experience
From Park Street Press
The Cosmic Serpent: DNA and the Origins of Knowledge
Jeremy Narby
The Doors of Perception and Heaven and Hell
Aldous Huxley
The Encyclopedia of Psychoactive Plants: Ethnopharmacology and Its Applications
Christian Ratsch, Albert Hofmann
The Long Trip: A Prehistory of Psychedelia
Paul Devereux

Aug 19, 2013 • 1h 15min
Podcast 365 – “Effects of Psychedelics on Society”
Guest speaker: Terence McKenna
PROGRAM NOTES:
[NOTE: All quotations are by Terence McKenna.]
“The psychedelic viewpoint is becoming more and more legitimate, but psychedelic drugs are not. That's the odd paradox of it.”
“We are living in a state of constant scientific revolution. There is not a single area that you can name that is now seen as it was seen a hundred years ago. Nothing is left of the world view of one hundred years ago.”
“The mind is a far bigger domain than we ever imagined.”
“I think really what unites psychedelic people is the faith in the power of the imagination.”
“And science, when it examines psychedelics, as it will and must, is going to discover a revolution, I believe, that will put all the previous revolutions in perspective.”
“The psychedelics are this immense tool for the inspection of our own nature.”
“The entire drug phenomenon of the 1960s happened without the concept of shamanism to help it along.”
“I think that understanding man's place in nature is going to require integration of the psychedelic experience.”
“Nobody should be allowed more than fifty years to get their act together.”
“Part of what being involved in the psychedelic experience is about is reclaiming your own experience.”
“You could almost describe psychedelics as enzymes for the activity of the imagination.”
“We do not birth our children into the world of nature. We birth our children into the world of culture.”
“What the psychedelic thing can be seen as, when it's done with plants, as a return to Gaia, an immersion in the feminine.”
“The real nature of our predicament is completely opaque to us.”
“Ayahuasca, unlike mushrooms and all these other things is only as good as the person who made it. . . . The ayahuasca is a combinatory drug, and so it brings the human interaction and the lore of it into a much more central position.”
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Palenque Norte Lecture Schedule
at the 2013 Burning Man Festival
Erowid Extracts (PDF)
Erowid Prospectus (PDF)

Aug 11, 2013 • 1h 9min
Podcast 364 – “Communicating with the Mushroom”
Guest speaker: Terence McKenna
PROGRAM NOTES:
[NOTE: All quotations are by Terence McKenna.]
“That's the core puzzling experience, when you meet the Other organized as a speaking mind.”
“What you call man is time.” [Quoting the mushroom.]
“It's as though a certain level of intoxication with the mushroom is the precondition for being able to communicate, but is not itself enough.”
“What happens with DMT is you leap over all the barriers in the first few seconds. Unlike mushrooms where over hours and hours on a high dose you might navigate yourself to the center of the Mandela, DMT is like being struck by metaphysical lightening.”
“[DMT] raises all the questions in a hurry. It's so intense and so oriented toward the other and the visual and the hallucinogenic that it isn't really like a drug. It's more like an event that you ran into. You just came around a corner and there was the unspeakable.”
“History is the siren song of the soul.”
“The terror of drugs is a terror of giving up control. This is what people are most alarmed about by psychedelics, is the giving up control.”
“I see the psychedelic experience as both the centerpiece of prehistoric life and destined to be the centerpiece of any future that we want to be part of.”
“The tension in the world is the tension between the ego and the feminine, not between the masculine and the feminine.”
“And psychedelics now, as we de-condition ourselves from the post-medieval world, they are present to hand as tools.”
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Books mentioned in this podcast
The Chalice and the Blade: Our History, Our Future
By Riane Eisler
One Foot in the Future
By Nina Graboi

Aug 10, 2013 • 1h 7min
Podcast 363 – “A Venice Beach Salon”
Guest speaker: Myron Stolaroff and Robert Forte
PROGRAM NOTES:
This is a recording from the spring of 2006, at Kathleen's Salon in Venice Beach, California, where Robert Forte and Myron Stolaroff came to tell their stories about the recent festivities in Basil, Switzerland celebrating the 100th anniversary of the birth of Dr. Albert Hofmann, the discoverer of LSD. After telling a little about the Hofmann event, Myron read part of the talk that he gave in Basil. From there, the conversation ranged widely, eventually ending with an argument about the Kennedy assassination.
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