

Psychedelic Salon
Lorenzo Hagerty
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Nov 21, 2016 • 1h 4min
Podcast 525 – “History Ends In Green” – Part 2
Guest speaker: Terence McKenna
PROGRAM NOTES:
Date this lecture was recorded: September 1990
[NOTE: All quotations are by Terence McKenna.]
“There is no closure. There are models, and there are questions. But all models are provisional, and anybody who says they have answers is highly, highly suspect. Too many people claim answers. What's being claimed here [in the psychedelic experience] is a technique, and then you figure out your own questions and your own answers. And it's different for everybody.”
“There really is no ideology associated with psychedelics. If you look at the people who've been involved with it they've said completely different and contradictory things.”
“We look askance at the mind the same way that a Victorian nanny is uncomfortable in the presence of 'bare' furniture. We fear it and don't want to look at it. And to my mind, most of the techniques that come out of the New Age are based on a guarantied lack of success. That's what they offer, because the last thing anyone wants is real change, because real change is uncontrolled change.”
“Somehow our inability to get a grip on our global problems has to do with this immaturity about our mental state. The two, I feel very strongly, are linked. Of course we can't get control of the world because we are children in some profound way.”
“The real message, more important even than the psychedelic experience, the real message that I try to leave with people in these weekends is the primacy of direct experience.”
“Everything not within your reach is basically unconfirmed rumor.”
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Nov 8, 2016 • 1h 13min
Podcast 524 – “History Ends In Green” – Part 1
Guest speaker: Terence McKenna
PROGRAM NOTES:
[NOTE: All quotations are by Terence McKenna.]
“I cannot conceive of mature human beings going from the cradle to the grave without ever finding out about [the psychedelic experience]. It's like not finding out about sex or something. It's just too weird. It's a part of our birthright. It's not a cultural artifact. . . . This is, as far as I can tell, the dimension in which we most fully experience ourselves as ourselves.”
“We have to be very careful about the corrosive effects of culture.”
“There was almost a kind of symbiotic relationship between early human beings and plants, specifically psychedelic plants.”
“Human culture has become, charitably, a random walk, uncharitably a kind of cancerous, exponential cascade of unstoppable effects.”
“It's a very hopeful sign to look around and notice that the only barriers to the solution to our problems are intellectual barriers, barriers in our own minds.”
“There is no percentage in paralysis here at the brink.”
“Then I discovered psychedelic plants, and it was like the descent of an angel into the desert of reason.”
“I'm convinced that the impulse that I feel in myself and that I see in other people toward the psychedelic experience has to do with its potential historical impact.”
“Ideology, to my mind, is the denial of the obvious and the substitution of something else.”
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Second Sunday Salon Information
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Nov 1, 2016 • 1h 38min
Podcast 523 – “Coalitions for Freedom”
Guest speaker: Grover Norquist
PROGRAM NOTES:
[NOTE: All quotations are by Grover Norquist.]
“You don't lose something because of partisan fights at the state level.”
“States rights is a stupid concept, since states don't have rights. People have rights. States have power they use against people.”
“People who have concealed carry permits go to jail or get in trouble with the law one-sixth as often as cops. So they're safer than cops.”
“All the groups that want to be left alone have something to teach each other.”
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My first Burning Man:
Confessions of a conservative from Washington
by Grover Norquist in The Guardian
Altered Conference
22 October, 2016, at Topics Berlin
A conference exploring altered states of consciousness

Oct 26, 2016 • 1h 34min
Podcast 522 – “Surveillance Capitalism and the IoT”
Guest speaker: Cory Doctorow
PROGRAM NOTES:
[NOTE: All quotations are by Cory Doctorow.]
“This world of computers exists in a principle-free environment. The Internet of Things is the Internet of absolute, self-serving bullshit.”
“The Internet of Things needs principles.”
“The real struggle here, it's not making computers free, it's making people free. The reason we want to save computers is not because computers are more important than racial justice, or gender equity, or getting rid of homophobia and transphobia, or the climate. The reason we want to make computers free and open is because we cannot win those fights without a few and open information infrastructure.”
“Considered atomically, one thing at a time all the things computers can do, we live in an age of unparalleled wonders. But all civilizations fall, and we have the shared responsibility to the civilizations that come after us to build the infrastructure that will lead to a future in which technology exists to server its users, not destroy their lives in service to surveillance capital, and the global war on terror, and self-serving bullshit so noxious that you can see it from orbit.”
“No one puff [of a cigarette] is going to give you cancer, but statistically given enough puffs you're getting a tumor. If that tumor erupted with the drag there would be no second drag. The reason people smoke is because the tumors happen years later. And the reason people give up their private information is because the privacy stuff that bites them in the ass almost always happens years and years later too.”
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Books by Cory Doctorow
Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF.org)

Oct 18, 2016 • 1h 17min
Podcast 521 – “Risk Reduction – How You Can Help”
Guest speakers: Annie Oak, Shannon Clare Petitt, and Rick Doblin
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In this 2016 Palenque Norte Lecture, Annie Oak, founder of the Women's Visionary Congress, teaches how to use Naloxone to help a person who has had an opioid overdose. She is followed by Shannon Clare Petitt who tells us about some of the work being done by MAPS' Zendo Project. Finally, we get to hear Rick Doblin, the founder of MAPS, talk about how he first learned about MDMA and what his first experience with that substance was like.
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Naloxone
John Oliver Blasts Pharma's Role in U.S. Opioid Epidemic:'This Is Happening Everywhere'
"Some towns have been devastated," Oliver warned.

Oct 6, 2016 • 1h 38min
Podcast 520 – “Our Cyberspiritual Future” Part 6
Guest speaker: Terence McKenna
PROGRAM NOTES:
[NOTE: All quotations are by Terence McKenna.]
“What we're doing is we're building a nervous system. We're building a nervous system the size of this planet.”
“The marketplace has an appetite for lies about the future.”
“I cannot conceive of post eschatonic life. I think of it, just to make things simple for myself, as death, because that's the other thing in my life that I have no grip on whatsoever.”
“An organism is chemistry abducted into hyperspace.”
“If you're a guru these days, you're almost condemned to spending a life with foolish people.”
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Brave New World by Aldous Huxley
Shamanism, Colonialism, and the Wild Man: A Study in Terror and Healing by Michael Taussig
What is Life?: With Mind and Matter and Autobiographical Sketches by Erwin Schrodinger
"Shamans of the Global Village"
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Sep 29, 2016 • 2h 5min
Podcast 519 – “Our Cyberspiritual Future” Part 5 – TimeWave
Terence McKenna discusses his TimeWave hypothesis and the concept of novelty. He explores the effectiveness of the I Ching as an oracle and reflects on the measurement of habit and novelty. The podcast also delves into the origins and mathematical order of the I Ching, as well as objections and controversies surrounding the TimeWave theory.

Sep 20, 2016 • 1h 16min
Podcast 518 – “Our Cyberspiritual Future” Part 4
Guest speaker: Terence McKenna
PROGRAM NOTES:
[NOTE: All quotations are by Terence McKenna.]
“A nature trip is an eyes wide open trip.”
“I think LSD is abrasively psychoanalytic.”
“I don't see an intellect outside of space and time guiding things, and certainly not watching with baited breath the machinations of the human monkeys. I mean, nobody has time for that kind of thing.”
“The universe is a self-creating mystery of some sort.”
“Maybe reality is a far more perishable concept than we ever dared or feared to suppose.”
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What Are the Benefits and Boiling Points of Cannabis Vaporization?
Matt Lamkin's Bandcamp Site

Sep 13, 2016 • 1h 44min
Podcast 517 – “Our Cyberspiritual Future” Part 3
Guest speaker: Terence McKenna
PROGRAM NOTES:
[NOTE: All quotations are by Terence McKenna.]
“The only path in to the supernormal that I've found are the psychedelics. Everywhere else I found chicanery and fraud.”
“It's fun to be a free person. It's fun to not depend upon an institution, an ideology, an other person, a place, a time. And it's very hard to sell this form of fun. People are afraid. People have been dis-empowered, I think, through the process of juvenilization.”
“Millions and millions of people live larval, low-awareness lives warehoused in the burbs, plugged in to Costco and the tele. And as long as the magazine subscriptions stay subscribed and the credit cards continue to be serviced the illusion that there is life happening here is allowed to continue.”
“I think that every single one of us should be learning how to expand our communications skills.”
“It's not about rejecting the media or the marketplace. It's about changing your relationship to it. Do not consume. Produce! . . . Inject your own art.”
“I don't believe alien spaceships are visiting Earth to pull our chestnuts out of the fire, or to do anything much else of interest, but I do think there is an alien presence. It's non-material. You contact it in the psychedelic experience. . . . Its nature is informational.”
“What the alien needs to manifest among us is a suitable landing zone.”
“In a sense, the Internet is a net to catch an alien.”
“In other words, the imagination is like a field of data that is at the Bell level of connectivity in the quantum mechanical universe.”
“Physically, we are alone, physically. But in the imagination we're surrounded by distant friends, and their whisperings are our science, our mathematics, our religions, our culture.”
“We have exhausted the exterior world, and yet the interior world beats like an enormous ocean. And what is ordinary, historical consciousness but a tiny island protruding above that ocean.”
“There was a period in my life where I formed my taste by saying I liked what I didn't like.”
“I think the worst setting for taking drugs is complex social environments, especially public social environments.”
“I believe in large doses . . . rarely.”
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Psychedelic Book Listing

Sep 6, 2016 • 1h 37min
Podcast 516 – “Our Cyberspiritual Future” Part 2
Guest speaker: Terence McKenna
PROGRAM NOTES:
[NOTE: All quotations are by Terence McKenna.]
“The real news is no one is in control, not the central bank, not the Jews, not the communist party, not the pope. Nobody's in control.”
“I do not understand why people transfer loyalty to role models. You have to be incredibly naive about what people are to believe that a role model is in fact worthy.”
“If you want to talk to the Dali Lama close the door of your bedroom and have a dialogue with the mirror. You're as good as the Dali Lama for crying out loud. Who could suppose otherwise?”
“Buddhism without psychedelics is armchair Buddhism. How can you possibly know anything about these modalities if you sit there, shastras to the eyebrows, and never actually push off into the ocean of mind?”
“Crop circles are the con that will not die.”
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The Long Trip: A Prehistory of Psychedelia
By Paul Devereux
Entheogens and the Future of Religion
Edited by Robert Forte


