Agile and Project Management - DrunkenPM Radio
Dave Prior, Agile Trainer, Consultant and Project Manager
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Aug 23, 2022 • 34min
Using Agile to Develop Hardware with Michael Grill
Many people who are new to an agile way of working struggle to understand how practices like Scrum can be used if you are doing Research and Development. It can also be difficult to see how an agile approach can be applied if you are developing hardware. If you fall into either of those categories, this podcast should help get you sorted on how agile can be used in both R&D and the development of hardware.
Michael Grill plays a dual role at Knorr-Bremse in Austria where he serves as both the Product Owner of Agile Practices and as a Product Owner for the research and development of brake magnets. In this interview, Michael shares what led his team to want to try agile, some of the experiences they have had, and things they learned in adopting agile practices for their work developing brake magnets. If you are trying to find your way with implementing Scrum on a team that focuses on hardware, this is an episode you’ll definitely want to check out
Links:
Scrum Field Book by J.J. Sutherland: https://amzn.to/3pASEoU
eXtreme Manufacturing: https://bit.ly/3ClNwMT
Wikispeed: https://bit.ly/3pG0iOV
Contacting Michael
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michael-grill
Twitter: https://twitter.com/actualMG
Aug 10, 2022 • 1h
Remote Pairing On The Path To CST - Audio Only
This podcast was originally recorded in video. You can find that version here: https://bit.ly/3p8YDB8
This episode of the podcast features an interview that I’m hoping will serve as an example of how collaborating in a distributed model can lead to great things. Malene Jacobsen and Mario Melo both became Certified Scrum Trainers during the 2022 Scrum Gathering in Denver this past spring. The story of how they became Certified Scrum Trainers is the focus of our conversation. During the interview, you’ll hear how they worked together and supported one another while preparing for their in-person TAC panels. They were also part of a larger team of people who committed to work together until each of them had become a Certified Scrum Trainer. Their teamwork demonstrates how being separated by multiple time zones does not have to be a hindrance.
If you are working as part of a distributed team or you are working towards becoming a Certified Scrum Trainer, this podcast offers an inspiring story that is chock full of tips to help you succeed with your geographically distributed team.
Links from the Podcast:
Scrum Alliance Certified Scrum Trainer Info: https://bit.ly/3p9qNfc
Scrumchkin: https://scrumchkin.com
Malene Jacobsen
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/malenembj/
Twitter: https://twitter.com/MaleneMBJ
Mario Melo
Web: https://melomario.com
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/melomario/
Twitter: https://twitter.com/melomario
Jul 20, 2022 • 38min
PODCAST TEAM UP! A Couple of Coaches and DrunkenPM on Metrics
Christine Converse and Ross Beurmann (who host the podcast A Couple of Coaches) join me for a conversation/debate about metrics. During the podcast, we discuss what metrics help create clarity for the team on how well they are performing and what metrics help highlight areas that could be improved. We weigh the pros and cons of standard Scrum metrics, Kanban metrics, and share the ones we each find most valuable.
If you are tracking certain metrics simply because Jira (or whatever tool you are using) tracks them, or someone else told you "THIS IS THE WAY," the question to answer is, if you were going to hire a metrics for your team, what job are we hiring the metrics to do?
Christine and Ross also interviewed me for their podcast A Couple of Coaches about serving on the Scrum Alliance TAC and what it takes to become a Certified Scrum Trainer. You can check that interview out here: https://soundcloud.com/coupleofcoaches/episode-7-drunkenpm-crossover
Sam...
Apologies Sam Moore and Stax/Volt fans everywhere for using Sam as the underperforming team member in this discussion. Please listen to more Sam and Dave… it will be good for your soul.
https://spoti.fi/3oruBIF
Contacting Christine Converse
Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/christineconverse1/
Contacting Ross Beurmann
Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rossbeurmann/
Email: ross@rossbeurmann.com
Jul 13, 2022 • 54min
Managing Multiple Project with Elizabeth Harrin
In Elizabeth Harrin’s latest book Managing Multiple Projects: How project managers can balance priorities, manage expectations and increase productivity, she draws on her 20+ years providing training, education, and mentoring in the project management field to take on a problem all of us face. When you have too many projects on your plate, and all of them are high priority, how do you find you get the most important work done without losing yourself in the process? While the book is project management-centric, the tools and skills Harrin offers are applicable not just for career project managers, but anyone who finds themself juggling more projects (work or otherwise) than the hours in the day will accommodate.
In this interview, Elizabeth shares a few of the key ideas from the book and we dig into some of the techniques she employs to manage her own workload in a way that still allows her to be present and show up for the rest of her life as well.
While many of the interviews I get to do focus on particular aspects of project management or agile, this interview has valuable ideas and techniques for everyone - not just those on a project management career path.
Managing Multiple Projects
https://amzn.to/3uEQwiX
Project Management Rebels
https://projectmanagementrebels.com
Contacting Elizabeth
Website: https://elizabeth-harrin.com
Amazon Page: https://amzn.to/3cbWykH
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/elizabethharrin/
Blog: https://RebelsGuideToPM.com
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/Rebelsguidetoprojectmanagement
Twitter: https://twitter.com/OtobosGroup
Jun 30, 2022 • 56min
Creating Outcome Focused User Stories with Scott Sehlhorst
When I have questions about product-related topics Scott Sehlhorst is always the first person I reach out to. He is a product management and strategy consultant that makes my head explode every time I talk to him and this interview is no exception. Scott joined me for this interview that builds on his recent blog post “How to Make Your Product Special” (https://bit.ly/3AciBBK). We dig into product positioning, why understanding the desired outcome the product is supposed to provide is often the thing fail to understand, and how to start creating User Stories that are focused on those outcomes instead of the output-driven stories most people write.
This interview covers a lot of ground as we talk through the challenges we all face when we’re trying to understand the problems we are trying to solve, who we are solving them for, and how to capture a user-centric explanation of what we need to create in a way that genuinely addresses the goal of the end-user.
This podcast will make more sense if you first check out Scott’s blog post “How to Make Your Product Special” (https://bit.ly/3AciBBK)
Contacting Scott
Scott’s Blog at Tyner Blain: https://tynerblain.com/blog/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sehlhorst/
Twitter: https://twitter.com/sehlhorst
Email: scott@tynerblain.com
Jun 15, 2022 • 49min
Kanban Metrics with Troy Lightfoot
This episode features Troy Lightfoot who is a Business Agility Coach and Consultant as well as a Professional Kanban Trainer. The interview starts with a discussion about the basic differences between Scrum and Kanban and then digs into four of the metrics recommended in the Kanban Guide. We cover WIP, Throughput, Work Item Age, and Cycle Time, talking through what each of these is, the value these metrics provide, why they are so much more valuable than simply looking at something like velocity, and what these metrics can do to help you develop a better level of predicting when work is likely to finish and how they can show you and your team ways to identify and address the things that are holding you back from delivering value for your client.
Troy also has a few ProKanban Certification classes coming up. In the back half of the interview, he explains what to expect if you sign up for a Professional Kanban 1 (PK1) Certification class or his Applying Metrics for Predictability (AMP) Certification class.
Troy’s Classes
Professional Kanban 1 (PK1) Certification June 23-24, 2022 https://bit.ly/3HmV1Ug
Applying Metrics for Predictability (AMP) Certification July 21-22, 2022 https://bit.ly/3zxZOk2
Links from the Podcast
ProKanban.org https://prokanban.org
The Kanban Guide https://kanbanguides.org
My interview with Troy Magennis on Probabilistic Forecasting https://bit.ly/3tDUW9b
My interview with Colleen Johnson on ProKanban and ProKanban Certification https://bit.ly/3NUN6Ac
Actionable Agile Metrics for Predictability by Dan Vacanti https://amzn.to/3tAVeh7
When Will it Be Done by Dan Vacanti https://amzn.to/3NUjrqR
Contacting Troy
Email: troylightfoot@gmail.com
Jun 1, 2022 • 59min
Distributed Teams and the Five Lenses w Mark Kilby
Distributed Teams are never easy. It doesn’t matter if you are separated by one flight of stairs or 12 time zones. Forming and maintaining a cohesive, collaborative team that can support one another, consistently deliver, and continuously improve is always just a little bit tougher when you are not in the same physical space.
The pandemic has offered all of us plenty of “opportunities” to find ways to improve how we form and function in a distributed way. But here’s the thing, even when you’ve been doing this stuff for years, it is tough. Experience can help guide you and show you some things to try to avoid, but each team is its own puzzle.
In this episode of the podcast, Mark Kilby has joined me to utilize the Five Lenses of Humane Management to talk about distributed teams.
There are three important things you need to know before you listen.
1. Mark Kilby and Johanna Rothman wrote the book “From Chaos to Successful Distributed Agile Teams: Collaborate to Deliver”. If you are looking for a tips on what makes distributed teams work, this book is an amazing resource.
2. Mark and I are on a distributed team together with two other people. Collectively, we bring over 70 years of experience of not only working on teams, but in coaching others on how to do it well.
3. We are struggling mightily
During the interview, Mark and I unpack some of the things we’re experiencing in the forming storming stages of our distributed team. We share some of the insights and struggles we’ve had along the way. This interview is intended to offer a kind of retrospective/case study on challenges that even seasoned pros have when working remotely. For those of you who are having similar challenges, we want you to know that you are not alone and hopefully, one of the takeaways you’ll get from this interview is that even when you and your distributed team are struggling, there are probably some amazing things happening, you just need to keep an eye out for them and appreciate them.
Links from the interview
From Chaos to Successfully Distributed Agile Teams by Mark Kilby and Johanna Rothman
https://amzn.to/3bPVDkT
The Five Lenses of Humane Management Interview with Jim Benson https://bit.ly/3a2FBIe
Lean Agile Visual Management https://www.modusinstitute.com/lavm
Contacting Mark:
Web: www.markkilby.com
Twitter: twitter.com/mkilby
LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/mkilby/
May 20, 2022 • 1h 2min
The Five Lenses of Humane Management with Jim Benson
This podcast was originally recorded as a video interview. To view the video version, please go to: https://bit.ly/3a2FBIe
This special video podcast features Jim Benson who is back to talk about the Five Lenses of Humane Management. When human beings work together they form a system. That system runs according to the culture created by the people who are gathering together and collaborating. That culture may be designed with intent or it may happen organically, it may support the people working together in the system or it may work against them and the system. The Five Lenses offer a way of examining the system and the culture it creates to understand the ways in which it is fostering an environment that allows the people in the system to rise up together and thrive in a collaborative way. They will also help you see when and how the opposite is happening.
The Five Lenses of Humane Management are:
1. Communications
2. Relationships
3. Respect
4. Flow
5. Continuous Improvement
I asked Jim to join me for this podcast because I’ve been studying the lenses and incorporating them into my work for about a year now. They have had a deep impact on me, the way I engage with teams, and the way I show up to collaborate with others. If you are interested in understanding how and why the groups you are working with are high-performing (or perhaps the opposite), you will find valuable insights in this interview.
If you’d like to learn more about the Five Lenses of Humane Management or Lean-Agile Visual Management:
https://www.modusinstitute.com/
And if you’d like to reach out to Jim Benson directly:
LINKS FROM THE PODCAST:
Personal Kanban: https://www.personalkanban.com/
Lean-Agile Visual Management on Modus Institute: https://www.modusinstitute.com/lavm
Jim’s Books on Amazon: https://amzn.to/3JQEEyX
CONTACTING JIM BENSON:
Web: https://moduscooperandi.com/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jimbenson/
Twitter: https://twitter.com/ourfounder
Email: jim@moduscooperandi.com
Apr 26, 2022 • 42min
Agile Physics and the Math of Flow w Troy Magennis
When people talk about Agile you’ll hear them talk about certain ideas, topics, or “laws” that are just mentioned as if they were universally known truths, almost like gravity. In “Agile Physics - the Math of Flow”, a new FREE course offered by Troy Magennis, you can start to learn the math behind some of these truths. The course focuses on a number of these ideas and breaks them down in a way that provides clarity on why they are considered to be true. What I found in going through the course was that even with subjects I felt deeply schooled in, the way Troy breaks things down helped me see some of the basic concepts that I had not totally grokked.
In this interview, Troy joins me to explain why he developed the course, how it works, and the tools he provides to add clarity to the concepts.
Later in the interview (21:30), we also discuss Monte Carlo Simulation. Until recently, my understanding of Monte Carlo Simulation was based on what I learned early in my PMP journey, and what I saw from vendors demo’ing their Monte Carlo tools in the early 2000s. My understanding of Monte Carlo is now very different. Troy was kind enough to walk me through how it actually works, the benefits it provides, and why what I originally learned about it is no longer a “thing”.
Agile Physics - The Math of Flow - https://learn.focusedobjective.com/collections
Contacting Troy
Web: https://www.focusedobjective.com/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/troymagennis/
Email: troy.magennis@focusedobjective.com
Twitter: https://twitter.com/t_magennis
Apr 17, 2022 • 50min
The Collaboration Equation With Jim Benson
This interview was originally recorded with video. If you'd like to check out that version you can find it here: https://bit.ly/3rtJEDd
Jim Benson is finishing up work on a new book The Collaboration Equation and in this episode of the podcast, the creator of Personal Kanban joins me to talk all about why we often resist collaboration, and why it is a necessary element of everything each of us does. Working through a number of real-life examples we discuss some of the ingredients you need to design a system that supports its participants and fosters a culture of collaboration.
This interview is going to challenge your understanding of collaboration, offer you a lens to see collaboration in a deeper, more lasting way, and offer you a sneak peek of what is coming up in Jim’s new book.
Links from the Podcast:
Personal Kanban: https://www.personalkanban.com/
Lean-Agile Visual Management on Modus Institute: https://www.modusinstitute.com/lavm
Jim’s Books on Amazon: https://amzn.to/3JQEEyX
Contacting Jim Benson:
Web: https://moduscooperandi.com/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jimbenson/
Twitter: https://twitter.com/ourfounder
Email: jim@moduscooperandi.com


