Agile and Project Management - DrunkenPM Radio
Dave Prior, Agile Trainer, Consultant and Project Manager
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Apr 11, 2023 • 41min
Agile Coaching Skills - Certified Facilitator w Anu Smalley
This episode of the podcast is all about Facilitation. Fellow Certified Scrum Trainer, Anu Smalley joins me to talk about a brand new Scrum Alliance certification called: Agile Coaching Skills - Certified Facilitator (ACS-CF). During the conversation Anu and I discuss what the certification focuses on, what you can expect from someone who has it, and why it might be valuable to those leading and/or coaching teams.
In the podcast, Anu references a TED talk where the facilitation skills of different musical conductors are evaluated. You can find that here: http://bit.ly/3KORIZo
To learn more about the Scrum Alliance’s Agile Coaching Skills - Certified Facilitator program:
http://bit.ly/3KOK958
Getting Certified AND a Discount
At the time this podcast is being posted, Anu is the only person teaching ACS-CF in North America. She has three classes coming up and she set up a discount code so that anyone listening to this podcast can get $100 off the price of a class by entering the promo code: facilitation100
Here are her upcoming classes:
In-Person
May 11-12 in Portland, OR - https://www.eventbrite.com/e/553421507627
Virtual
June12-13 - https://www.eventbrite.com/e/592781765217
July 13-14 - https://www.eventbrite.com/e/592821082817
Contacting Anu
Web: https://www.capalaconsulting.com/
LinkedIn: https://bit.ly/41etnl2
Email: anu@capalaconsulting.com
Mar 28, 2023 • 54min
Building Trust and Connection In Your Team with Cozy Juicy Real
Connecting with new people can be a challenge. More for some than others. In work, and in life, knowing how much to share, where the line is, what it is okay to ask ... this was always tough. And when every team on the planet suddenly became a distributed team.. the stakes got higher.
And as welcoming as the solutions are for some, they have the opposite impact on others. Some people love virtual escape rooms and virtual happy hour. Others just wonder why they are being required to spend even more time on Zoom.
Jed and Sophia Lazar have a better answer. They've developed Cozy Juicy Real, and game which, up until now has been 100% virtual, but by the time you find this podcast it will be available in a physical form as well. It is a board game that will take you and your team through a series of questions and activities where you are invited to learn more about one another, one step at a time. It is designed to provide players with a feeling of safety as they begin to open up and share. They start with low risk (cozy) questions and work their way towards juicy and then real questions. In order to win, you have to be open to answering questions AND asking questions.
If you have a team that is struggling to connect, or that you are hoping will connect at a deeper level, Cozy, Juicy Real may be just what you are looking for.
NOTE: This podcast was recorded in video so you can see the game. If you'd like to check that out: https://bit.ly/3JJOynW
To learn about the new physical version of the game:
Kickstarter: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/cozy-juicy-real/its-game-time
Connecting with Jed and Sophia
Connect Fest: http://connectfest.world/
Team building: https://www.cozyjuicyreal.com/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/cozyjuicyreal
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/cozyjuicyreal/
Email: hello@cozyjuicyreal.com
Mar 23, 2023 • 37min
PMI Board Chair Jennifer Tharp - Staying Relevant and Finding Joy
PMI Chair Jennifer Tharp joins me for this episode of the podcast from Venice, Italy where she is making the most of being a remote worker . During our conversation, we cover a wide range of topics including:
- What is the best movie about project management
- What fictional character best represents your inner project manager
- Has the profession of Project Management at an inflection point
- What you need to do in order to stay current and relevant as our profession evolves
- How to find ways to keep finding things to keep yourself excited and interested about working in this field
- The importance of play in work
- How to come up with ideas for a presentation to give at a conference
- Why you might not want to work in the field you are most passionate about
- How to make the most of being a remote worker
- Finding joy in the work you do
Contacting Jennifer Tharp
Web: http://www.mastodonconsulting.com
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tharpo/
PMI Profile: https://bit.ly/40eof0j
Mar 13, 2023 • 46min
The Future of Agile Project Management w Howard Sublett
The Future of Project Management
This episode features Howard Sublett as we discuss where Project Management and Agile are headed in the future. Howard is the former CEO of the Scrum Alliance. He’s been working in the space for years and has been doing consulting work since leaving SA. During the conversation we explore how the agile transformation space has been changing, some of the issues organizations are having with agile coaching, and where things are headed with the intersection of agile and traditional project management.
Habitat for Humanity
During the interview, Howard mentions his volunteer work for Habitat for Humanity. If you are interested in learning more about it:
https://secure.habitat.org/
Contacting Howard
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/howardsublett/
Email: howardsublett@gmail.com
Mar 6, 2023 • 43min
(Re)Start Your Team Using Modus REE with Erich Hahn
There is a massive difference between being a group of people who work together and being a high-performing team. It doesn’t matter if you are working in an agile organization or one that is more traditional, a group of people who share an understanding of how they work, why they work, and how they can show up and support one another every day are going to achieve greater things than those who lack that understanding.
If this is something your team is struggling to develop, this podcast will provide a case study of how you and the people you work with can begin to develop the type of connection they need to rise and thrive together. In this podcast, Erich Hahn joins me to talk through the experience he and his team had in working through the Modus Right Environment Exercises (REE). Erich and have both been through the Modus Institute’s Lean Agile Visual Management program where we went through Modus Right Environment Exercises with teams and saw firsthand how they transform the way people form as a team. Whether you are starting up with a new team, or are working on one that has become a bit stuck, these tools will deeply impact how you engage with one another.
One note, before you watch or listen to the podcast, the names of these tools will be familiar, but they are not the same ones you’ve used in the past. As you’ll see in the interview, Modus Institute uses these tools in a unique way that provides layers of insight that you would not gain otherwise.
This podcast was originally recorded in video. You can find the video version here: https://youtu.be/Pp7BXnjZMh0
To Learn More About Modus Right Environment Exercises and Lean Agile Visual Management:
Modus Institute: https://www.modusinstitute.com
The Collaboration Equation: https://www.collaboration-equation.com
Free Modus Public Forum: https://bit.ly/3JfzgbL
If you’d like to contact Erich with follow-up questions:
LinkedIn: https://bit.ly/3ybPgFp
Email: erichch@comcast.net
Feb 23, 2023 • 27min
Artificial Intelligence and Project Management with Ricardo Vargas
PMI Fellow Ricardo Vargas joins me in this episode of the podcast to talk about Artificial Intelligence, Chat GPT, and the Future of Project Management. During our conversation, I got the chance to dig deeper into some of the ideas raised in his recent HBR article "How AI Will Transform Project Management." Whether you are working in a traditional organization or one that has adopted agile, the work of managing work is going to go through some pretty intense changes in the coming years. This interview is guaranteed to give you ideas about how to prepare yourself for the future of project management.
If you'd prefer to watch a video version of this interview you can find it here: https://www.projectmanagement.com/blog-post/74024/artificial-intelligence-and-project-management-with-ricardo-vargas
You can find the HBR article "How AI Will Transform Project Management"
here: https://hbr.org/2023/02/how-ai-will-transform-project-management
Contacting Ricardo
Web: https://ricardo-vargas.com
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ricardovargas/
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/rvvargas
Twitter: https://twitter.com/rvvargas
Email: ricardo@ricardo-vargas.com
Feb 13, 2023 • 35min
Sprint Goals and Sprint Planning with Chris Li
In this episode, my good friend Chris Li joins me for a conversation about Sprint Goals. While Chris and I are aligned on the importance of having a Sprint Goal, we approach the creation of it in different ways. During this conversation, you’ll get a detailed breakdown of how each of us shows up for the Sprint Goal conversation, when, and how it happens.
If you would prefer to check out a video version of this interview it can be found here: https://youtu.be/UxZypEeuFww
Contacting Chris
Web: www.sparkplugagility.com/
Twitter: twitter.com/realchrisli
LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/realchrisli/
Email: chris@sparkplugagility.com
And if you have any feedback for me on the podcast, or are interested in signing up for one of my CSM or CSPO classes: https://linktr.ee/mrsungo
Feb 2, 2023 • 53min
Lead Without Blame with Tricia Broderick
In “Lead Without Blame: Building Resilient Learning Teams” Diana Larsen and Tricia Broderick present tools, techniques, and strategies you can employ to transform the way you approach leading teams. Throughout the book, they present case studies and examples from their own experiences that showcase the impact you can have by fostering a psychologically safe environment that supports collaborative learning, autonomy, and purpose.
In this episode of the podcast, Tricia Broderick joins me to talk about the book, why she and Diana chose to write it, and how this approach can help your high-performing team take the next step towards becoming a resilient collaborative learning team.
This interview was originally recorded in video. You can find that version here: bit.ly/3GwO2rg
You can find Lead Without Blame here: bit.ly/3wOCdJ7
If you’d like to contact Tricia:
Web: https://igniteii.com
LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/tricia-broderick
Email: tricia.broderick@gmail.com
Jan 18, 2023 • 40min
In Defense of Frederick Taylor w Christine Li
In this episode, I am joined by a very special guest, Christine Li, for a conversation I have been waiting to record for quite a while now.
Backstory
I am closing in on 30 years of work in Project Management and for most of that time, I, like many of you, have been talking smack about Frederick Taylor. My opinions were based on the things I learned from others along the way and were (obviously) deeply informed by moving from traditional PM over to Agile. As far as I was concerned, this guy was the birth of work misery.
But over the past few years, I’ve started to develop this weird compulsion to stick up for the good bits that came out of his work. I mean, literally, no one working in project management or agile would have a job without this guy. You can also make an argument that without him the United States never would have made it through WWII.
Even though I was willing to have Taylor’s back in an argument, there was one thing missing…
I had never actually read his work.
CUE ALL THE PM SHAME!
So I did. I read The Principles of Scientific Management. And, to my shock, not only was it easy to read, but it was fun to read how this guy figured out the things he figured out. Yes, there are a few critical issues with his approach (and they are big issues), but there is a TON of good stuff in there that we all ignore because he’s such an easy target.
(And I really want to go back in time and get hired as SPEED BOSS)
After reading it, I was at a lunch and happened to mention my newfound Taylor Fanboy-ness and Christine Li showed up like Yoda, deep with the PM history geek. She took me to school and that is where this conversation starts.
My hope is that even if you think Frederick Taylor is the Sauron of Project Management, you’ll give this a listen. Maybe it will challenge your understanding of him and his work. Maybe it will (I hope) entice you to read his work. And even if you’ve read his work and can see the good in it, the things Christine shares will level up your understanding as well.
I am very grateful to her for making time for this. It was a really fun conversation.
For Further Reading
The Principles of Scientific Management by Frederick Taylor bit.ly/3H8XtPG
Scientific Management; a History and Criticism by Horace Drury https://bit.ly/3QFhEIr
Contacting Christine
Web: https://www.sparkplugagility.com
Email: christine@sparkplugagility.com

Jan 12, 2023 • 39min
Story Points Are Good AND Evil with Ryan Ripley
A few weeks ago while I was teaching a CSM class, I got a Slack message from Ron Quartel pointing me to a tweet by Ryan Ripley. The tweet said “If you are sitting in a Scrum Training class and the trainer starts teaching Story Points, you should 1. Get up. 2. Demand Your Money Back, and 3. Walk out. You're wasting your time.
Here is a link to the tweet: https://bit.ly/3XsfPAP
I should mention I was just about to cover Story Points and I used Ryan's tweet in class as part of our conversation.
As soon as I saw Ryan's tweet, I DM'd him asking if we could do a podcast about it. I did this because A) I have a lot of respect for Ryan and value his opinion, B) earlier in my career I spent about 4 years fighting against Story Points, C) I do teach them in class because I believe that (used properly) they can be incredibly valuable to a Scrum Team, and D) I love getting into debates on topics I feel strongly about with really smart people who might be able to change my mind
So this podcast is Ryan and I talking through his reason for throwing shade on Story Points, my reasons for standing up for them, and the reasons I feel comfortable saying that we are aligned about why Story Points are good AND evil.
This podcast was originally recorded in video. If you'd prefer that version you can find it here: https://youtu.be/-ja1oFv5Et0
Contacting Ryan:
Web: https://AgileforHumans.com
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@AgileforHumans
Fixing Your Scrum by Ryan Ripley and Todd Miller: https://amzn.to/3Qyjs5S
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanripley/


