

Out Of Office: A Travel Podcast
A Travel Podcast
Out of Office is a travel podcast hosted by us, Ryan Davis and Kiernan Schmitt. From early childhood, we were each infected with a serious case of wanderlust (among other things.)
We define travel broadly, from local day trips to high-flyin’ overseas adventures. Every episode, we dig into one topic—ranging from the serious to the silly, the practical to the outlandish—and give advice on how to get out there and explore the world.
We define travel broadly, from local day trips to high-flyin’ overseas adventures. Every episode, we dig into one topic—ranging from the serious to the silly, the practical to the outlandish—and give advice on how to get out there and explore the world.
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Jan 7, 2020 • 7min
The Importance of Family Vacations
This week on Out of Office: A Travel Podcast, Kiernan offers a brief reflection on the meaning of family vacations. Things we talked about in today’s podcast: Disney World EPCOT World Showcase https://www.wdwinfo.com/wdwinfo/guides/epcot/ep-worldshowcase.htm - Listen to past episodes at: https://outofofficepod.com/ - Follow us on Instagram at: https://www.instagram.com/ooopodcast/

Dec 31, 2019 • 16min
Year in Review
This week on Out of Office: A Travel Podcast, the boys each choose their 5 favorite episodes from the archives and tease topics to come in 2020. Check out the show notes to listen to these great past pods. Things we talked about in today’s podcast: Ryan’s Top Picks 1: Mexico City Episodes https://outofofficepod.com/podcast/episode-18-ryans-12-favorite-mexico-city-spots/ https://outofofficepod.com/podcast/episode-52-mexico-city-part-dos/ 2: Gaudí’s Barcelona https://outofofficepod.com/podcast/episode-34-gaudis-barcelona/ 3: Hamilton’s New York https://outofofficepod.com/podcast/episode-47-hamiltons-new-york/ 4: Escape Rooms with Tommy Wallach https://outofofficepod.com/podcast/episode-50-escape-rooms-with-tommy-wallach/ 5: Natural Wine in Brooklyn https://outofofficepod.com/podcast/episode-24-natural-wine-in-brooklyn/ Kiernan’s Top Picks 1: State Parks with Peter Kujawinski https://outofofficepod.com/podcast/episode-43-state-parks-with-peter-kujawinski/ 2: The Great Peru Trilogy https://outofofficepod.com/podcast/episode-44-peru-part-1/ https://outofofficepod.com/podcast/episode-45-peru-part-2/ https://outofofficepod.com/podcast/episode-53-peru-part-3-machu-picchu/ 3: National Parks of the Pacific Northwest https://outofofficepod.com/podcast/episode-38-national-parks-of-the-pacific-northwest/ 4: Writer Anissa Helou on Foods of the Islamic World https://outofofficepod.com/podcast/episode-29-writer-anissa-helou-on-food-of-the-islamic-world/ 5: Luggage Throwdown https://outofofficepod.com/podcast/episode-19-luggage-throwdown/ 6: Writer Mark Adams on “Tip of the Iceberg” https://outofofficepod.com/podcast/episode-11-writer-mark-adams/ - Listen to past episodes at: https://outofofficepod.com/ - Follow us on Instagram at: https://www.instagram.com/ooopodcast/

Dec 24, 2019 • 42min
Christmas Spectacular Two
This week on Out of Office: A Travel Podcast, the boys loosen their ties, put their seatbacks to the full reclined position, and breakout the holiday ‘nog. Kiernan and Ryan discuss why ornaments make perfects souvenirs, why Ryan’s been through some tough Christmases, and why iconic Christmas movies don’t adapt to the stage very well. Then, the annual Ugly Ornament Exchange! Things we talked about in today’s podcast: 11 Gifts for Your Favorite Traveler https://outofofficepod.com/podcast/episode-10-11-gifts-for-your-favorite-traveler/ Dolly Parton’s “Hard Candy Christmas” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvK1F6bUrzU Bing Crosby’s “Winter Wonderland” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLPUjwfb8xI Ryan’s gift to Kiernan https://www.preciousmoments.com/just-plane-happy-its-christmas-bisque-porcelain-ornament-boy?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI67qR3uat5gIVDl8NCh27-w8sEAkYAiABEgIQtvD_BwE Kiernan’s gift to Ryan https://www.etsy.com/listing/754283527/st-nicolas-cage-christmas-ornaments?gpla=1&gao=1&utm_campaign=shopping_us_LemonsAreBluecom_sfc_osa&utm_medium=cpc&utm_source=google&utm_custom1=0&utm_content=18008672&gclid=Cj0KCQiA_rfvBRCPARIsANlV66MVOv0WrOfRjaYZ3VX0Tmn-e-QPByA1Mvjrip8vCw-xUD2lM8uVFU8aAkMuEALw_wcB - Listen to past episodes at: https://outofofficepod.com/ - Follow us on Instagram at: https://www.instagram.com/ooopodcast/

Dec 17, 2019 • 1h 7min
Morocco
This week on Out of Office: A Travel Podcast, the boys take us through one of their patented destination guides. This time, Kiernan heads to Morocco and discusses the must-sees and maybe-misses in Casablanca, Marrakech, the Atlas Mountains, Fes, Chefchaouen, and Volubilis. From epic mosques to ancient universities to Roman ruins, this week’s episode will have you booking your tickets to Morocco ASAP. Things we talked about in today’s podcast: Morrocan robe Djellaba or Jellaba https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Djellaba Casablanca: Hassan II Mosque https://www.mosquee-hassan2.com/en/ Marrakech: Jemaa el-Fnaa https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jemaa_el-Fnaa Marrakech: Kutubiyya Mosque https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kutubiyya_Mosque Marrakech: Saadian Tombs https://www.morocco.com/attractions/saadian-tombs/ Marrakech: El Badi Palace https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Badi_Palace Marrakech: Bahia Palace https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bahia_Palace Marrakech: Le Jardin Secret https://www.lejardinsecretmarrakech.com/en/ Marrakech: Jardin Majorelle https://jardinmajorelle.com/ang/ Marrakech: Riad L’Orangeraie http://www.riadorangeraie.com/ Atlas Mountains: Toubkal National Park https://visitmarrakech.com/discover-marrakech/gardens/toubkal-national-park Toubkal Peaks Trekking Company http://toubkal-peaks.com/ Fes: Chouara Tanneries https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chouara_Tannery Fes: University of al-Qarawiyyin https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_al-Qarawiyyin Fes: Riad Laaroussa https://riad-laaroussa.com/ Chefchaouen: The Blue City https://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/04/travel/a-stroll-by-the-casbah-in-northern-morocco.html Volubilis: Roman ruins https://whc.unesco.org/en/list/836/ Paul Rand Minute Man Poster http://blog.baselinemagazine.com/events/paul-rand-pioneer-by-design/ Listen to past episodes at: https://outofofficepod.com/ Follow us on Instagram at: https://www.instagram.com/ooopodcast/

Dec 10, 2019 • 54min
Bookstores Worth Traveling For
This week on Out of Office: A Travel Podcast, the boys talk through a dramatic update on The Quest for Rick Steves, then recommend their favorite bookstores in New York City, Boston, Portland, Denver, CDMX, and London. Plus, Kiernan skips dinner with Ryan! Things we talked about in today’s podcast: New York: The Strand https://www.strandbooks.com/ New York: Housing Works https://www.housingworks.org/locations/bookstore-cafe New York: Idlewild https://www.idlewildbooks.com/ New York: Molasses Books https://www.facebook.com/MolassesBooks/ Boston: Porter Square Books https://www.portersquarebooks.com/ Boston: Harvard Book Store http://www.harvard.com/ Boston: Brattle Book Shop http://www.brattlebookshop.com/ Portland: Powell’s City of Book https://www.powells.com/locations/powells-city-of-books Denver: Tattered Cover https://www.tatteredcover.com/ Mexico City: Cafebrería El Péndulo https://pendulo.com/ London: Gay’s the Word https://www.facebook.com/gaystheword/ London: Daunt Books https://dauntbooks.co.uk/ Cannonballing Cross Country https://www.roadandtrack.com/car-culture/a30085091/these-guys-just-drove-an-e63-amg-across-america-in-a-record-27-hours-25-minutes/?utm_source=digg&utm_medium=email Hue, Vietnam https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hu%E1%BA%BF Food of Hue at Van Da https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2019/05/27/van-das-tour-of-vietnamese-delicacies - Listen to past episodes at: https://outofofficepod.com/ - Follow us on Instagram at: https://www.instagram.com/ooopodcast/

Dec 3, 2019 • 54min
Nashville
This week on Out of Office: A Travel Podcast the boys put on their best boots and head to Music City USA. They cover what to eat, where to visit, and why you should head to Tennessee if you want to check out the Parthenon. Things we talked about in today’s podcast: Parthenonhttps://www.nashville.gov/Parks-and-Recreation/Parthenon.aspx Prince’s Hot Chicken: https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2019/02/04/the-family-business-that-put-nashville-hot-chicken-on-the-map The Hermitagehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hermitage_(Nashville,_Tennessee) Polk Tombhttps://www.atlasobscura.com/places/james-k-polk-tomb Country Music Hall of Famehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hermitage_(Nashville,_Tennessee) Lower Broadway https://www.nashvilledowntown.com/go/broadway Robert's Western Worldhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert%27s_Western_World Grand Old Opryhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Ole_Opry#Grand_Ole_Opry_House Ryman Auditoriumhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryman_Auditorium Reagan’s Childhood Homehttps://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2019/11/23/ronald-reagan-childhood-home-072935 - Listen to past episodes at: https://outofofficepod.com/ - Follow us on Instagram at: https://www.instagram.com/ooopodcast/

Nov 26, 2019 • 60min
NYT Travel Advice Columnist Sarah Firshein
This week on Out of Office: A Travel Podcast, Kiernan interviews Sarah Firshein, the new travel advice columnist for the New York Times. They discuss how Sarah’s column combines intense research and advocacy on behalf of wronged travelers. Sarah then tackles calls for help from Out of Office listeners. Things we talked about in today’s podcast: Switzerland and the European Union https://www.americanswiss.org/resources_and_publications/switzerland-and-the-european-union/ “Tripped Up” on New York Times https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/15/reader-center/travel-sarah-firshein-tripped-up-columnist.html The Montreal Convention https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montreal_Convention Chase Sapphire Reserve Travel Benefits https://www.chase.com/card-benefits/sapphirereserve/travel Privatizing the Parks https://www.outsideonline.com/2404058/interior-department-privatizing-campgrounds-plan Jason Polan’s American Museum of Natural History https://20x200.com/collections/jason-polan - Listen to past episodes at: https://outofofficepod.com/ - Follow us on Instagram at: https://www.instagram.com/ooopodcast/

Nov 19, 2019 • 48min
Dark Skies and Stargazing with Valerie Stimac
This week on Out of Office: A Travel Podcast, Kiernan interviews Valerie Stimac, the author of Lonely Planet’s newest guide “Dark Skies: A Practical Guide to Astrotourism.” We learn about dark sky certifications, the best places on earth to study the stars, and why everyone has to make time to see the Milky Way. Plus, Ryan goes to Florida. Things we talked about in today’s podcast: “Dark Skies: A Practical Guide to Astrotourism” https://shop.lonelyplanet.com/products/dark-skies-1 International Dark Sky Association https://www.darksky.org/ Valerie & Valise https://www.valisemag.com/ Space Tourism Guide https://spacetourismguide.com/ “The Universe” https://shop.lonelyplanet.com/products/the-universe-1 The Dali Museum https://thedali.org/ UM Libraries “Cleared to Land: The Records of Pan American Airways, Inc.” https://scholar.library.miami.edu/digital/exhibits/show/panamerican/digitization - Listen to past episodes at: https://outofofficepod.com/ - Follow us on Instagram at: https://www.instagram.com/ooopodcast/

Nov 12, 2019 • 58min
How to Pack a Suitcase
This week on Out of Office: A Travel Podcast, the boys debate the best ways to pack a suitcase, including how to choose and organize the right wardrobe, where your toiletries belong, and why you could put a horse in the overheard storage of an Amtrak if you were strong enough. Plus, Ryan comes out as an “always-check”! Things we talked about in today’s podcast: OOO Episode 19: Luggage Throwdown https://outofofficepod.com/podcast/episode-19-luggage-throwdown/ TSA Liquid, Lotion, and Tincture Rules https://www.tsa.gov/travel/security-screening/liquids-rule “Parks” by Brian Kelley https://standardsmanual.com/products/parks Hartford’s Wadsworth Atheneum Museum of Art https://www.thewadsworth.org/ - Listen to past episodes at: https://outofofficepod.com/ - Follow us on Instagram at: https://www.instagram.com/ooopodcast/

Nov 5, 2019 • 46min
What Makes a Perfect Restaurant with Time Out’s Bao Ong
This week on Out of Office: A Travel Podcast, Ryan talks to Time Out Food and Drink Editor Bao Ong about what it takes to make a restaurant great, how he puts together “Best of” lists, and then gets some recommendations for great places in New York City and beyond. Plus, our longest Recalculating yet! Things we talked about in today’s podcast: - Bao Ong https://www.timeout.com/profile/UMTtSr53SqyIKETBUC1uNeQ==/ - NYT on why a volcano boosted Iceland tourism https://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/17/world/europe/reykjavik-iceland-tourism.html - Japantowns in the US https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japantown - Tommy Wallach’s The Ladder: A Choice-Driven, Fully Replayable Escape Room https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1447182103/the-ladder-the-worlds-first-truly-replayable-escape-room/description - Bao’s 100 Best Restaurants in NYC Right Now https://www.timeout.com/newyork/restaurants/100-best-new-york-restaurants Restaurant Mention: Via Carota http://www.viacarota.com/ Restaurant Mention: Superiority Burger http://www.superiorityburger.com/ Restaurant Mention: Olmstead http://www.olmstednyc.com/ Restaurant Rec: Maison Yaki http://www.maisonyaki.com/ Restaurant Rec: Crown Shy https://www.crownshy.nyc/ Restaurant Rec: Khe-Yo https://www.kheyo.com/ Restaurant Rec: Pata Paplean https://www.facebook.com/patapapleannyc/ Restaurant Rec: Dallas’s Laotian Khao Noodle Shop https://www.dallasnews.com/food/2019/09/17/khao-noodle-shop-is-bon-appetit-s-no-2-best-new-restaurant-in-america/ Restaurant Rec: Saint Paul’s In Bloom https://www.inbloomstp.com/ Natural Wines in Spain https://culinarybackstreets.com/cities-category/barcelona/2019/wine-harvest-2019-4/ Restaurant Rec: Boston’s Japanese-Peruvian Ruka https://www.rukarestobar.com/ Restaurant Rec: Detroit’s Lebanese Ollie’s http://www.olliescuisine.com/ “Joker” stairs in the Bronx https://www.cinemablend.com/news/2482891/see-how-crowded-jokers-stairs-are-now-that-theyre-a-tourist-trap Boston Harbor Now https://www.bostonharbornow.org/ - Listen to past episodes at: https://outofofficepod.com/ - Follow us on Instagram at: https://www.instagram.com/ooopodcast/