Disorder

Jane Kinninmont discusses the recent NATO Summit, focusing on Trump-proofing NATO and the lack of attention on the Israel-Gaza conflict. Experts share insights on Ukraine, US influence, and NATO's approach to the Middle East. The summit emphasized unity, Southern partnerships, and the performance of political leaders.

Discussions on the assassination attempt on Trump, its historical significance, and impact on the election. Analysis of betting markets favoring Trump after the incident. Exploration of the messianic narratives around Trump and potential hagiography. Reflections on political instincts, polarization, and the power of narratives in shaping political outcomes.

NATO is the longest lasting and most successful military alliance in human history. Today NATOs 75th Summit in Washington, DC comes to a close. What can NATO’s past tell us about  its probably future?   To commemorate this symbolic occasion, Jason is joined by Peter Apps. He is the author of ‘Deterring Armageddon: A Biography of NATO’, a global defence columnist for Reuters, and a British Army reservist. He has reported from more than 20 countries over two decades, despite being paralyzed in a frontline car crash in Sri Lanka in 2006.   Jason and Peter discuss: Lord Ismay’s dictum; how has the Ukraine war affected the alliance?; how important are personalities to the alliance and how it works?; and how can NATO’s history, institutional biography, and legacy of diplomatic flexibility shed some light on how it might respond to the unprecedented challenges around it — from the rise of the far right in National Rally in France, the AfD in Germany, to the spectre of Trump — and the challenges posed to NATO by Putin, Xi, climate change, AI, and misinformation.  Twitter: @DisorderShow  Subscribe to our Substack: https://natoandtheged.substack.com/   Website: https://natoandtheglobalenduringdisorder.com/   Producer: George McDonagh Exec Producer: Neil Fearn  Show Notes Links  Peter’s book Deterring Armageddon: A Biography of NATO: the "astonishingly fine history" of the world's most successful military alliance https://www.amazon.co.uk/Deterring-Armageddon-Biography-astonishingly-successful/dp/103540575X   Listen to Disorder Ep6. NATO: A Model for Ordering the Disorder? with Kori Shacke, Timothy Garton Ash, Jamie Shea and Charles Kupchan: https://pod.link/1706818264/episode/9472a8b7d262dd9fb0cd9827e8947964   About the NATO Defense College Foundation: https://www.natofoundation.org/about-us  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

‘The people that walked in darkness have seen a great light; and they that dwell in the land of the shadow of Brexit, upon them hath the light shined.’ (Isaiah 9, v.2 with only one word changed) In retrospect, the melodies and lyrics of Handel’s Messiah appear quite appropriate for this most non-Messianic of Messiahs, the man of our moment, Sir Keir.  Therefore, despite Alex and Jason’s fear about the large Reform vote and their trepidation about Biden’s remaining in the US Presidential race, they still make time to ‘Rejoice, Rejoice, Rejoice Greatly’ because British democracy does work. It operates via a system of checks and balances -- where every action causes a counter reaction, and every Sunak Rwanda scheme, Truss tanking of the economy, and Boris-y lie elicits a shift in public opinion.  Despite the positive news of Britian’s Independence from Neo-Populists, the Enduring Disorder still prevails in many corners of these resplendent Isles. Jason tells of his undercover ethnographic field trip to Clacton-on-Sea, where he discovers that Reform are actually just the UK branch of the MAGA movement. Jason and Alex debate if: 1) Britain is in a phase of post-populism or proto-populism; 2) if the wave has crested or if Britain is just at an earlier stage in development than France or the USA; 3) What we can extrapolate about how the British electorate’s protest votes over Gaza or immigration bode for the American election; and 4) the power of the anti-system and anti-incumbency pressures and how these two factors might be the big difference btw the British and American elections -- as in the US both anti-system and anti-incumbency tendencies are working for the Republicans and against the Dems, whereas in the July 4 UK election the anti-system vote worked against the Tories and for Reform while the anti-incumbency vote worked for the Tories and against Labour.  Twitter: @DisorderShow  Subscribe to our Substack to get a recent clip of Jason on Al Jazeera English talking about Sir Keir’s approach to Gaza: https://natoandtheged.substack.com/   Website: https://natoandtheglobalenduringdisorder.com/   Producer: George McDonagh Exec Producer: Neil Fearn  Show Notes Links  Oh Baby What a Night, the Two Matts on the Rise of the Lib Dems and Starmer’s flawless mastery of the first past the post system: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-two-matts/id1236139906?i=1000661232273   Read The Lammy Doctrine https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/2024/06/david-lammy-doctrine-interview-jason-cowley?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email   Listen to an potted biography of Sir Keir’s personal, professional, and intellectual journey: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/origin-story/id1624704966?i=1000660203835   Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Political analysts Jason Pack and Alex Hall Hall discuss UK Election Campaign strategies, potential Starmer government relations with EU, and impacts on US-UK relations. They explore the global influence of UK politicians and the significance of the upcoming UK elections on the global order.

The podcast delves into the aftermath of Biden's unprepared debate performance, discussing potential replacements and global implications. European perspectives on the Democratic Party and concerns surrounding Biden's administration are explored. The perception of American democracy abroad and the future of Democratic leadership are also discussed, focusing on potential candidates and the impact of identity politics.

Delving into the assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand in 1914, the podcast explores how it ignited a chain of events leading to global disorder. It discusses the motivations of key figures like Gavrilo Princip, reflecting on individual actions shaping history and society. The episode delves into accountability, transparency, and the transformative nature of war on power dynamics, highlighting the significance of shedding light on opaque systems for promoting responsibility.

We celebrate 9 full months of Disorder with a live studio recording. Climate change hasn’t been acted on coherently by a coalition of major powers, while certain governments and businesses have prevented climate action choosing to pursue short-term goals. Is this to be expected? Is it rational for some governments and business to pull in different directions or are they missing the plot and thinking too short-term?  But then again, is it in the long-term interest of most major states, citizens, and multinational corporations to work together to fight climate change? Or is it actually a rational calculation for certain states or corporations (like oil producing ones) to fight the creation of global coordination mechanisms and delay the energy transition and look to profit from the current high demand for the fossil fuels that they either export or produce?  To discuss this issue, Jason Pack is joined by Olivia Azadegan and Hassan Damluji.  Hassan Damluji is a British-Iraqi development expert and author of The Responsible Globalist: What Citizens of the World Can Learn from Nationalism. He is Co-founder of Global Nation, which focuses on improving international cooperation to combat climate change, pandemics, inequality and conflict. Olivia Azadegan is a British-Iranian, a fellow at the Women Leaders in Energy and Climate Change at the Atlantic Council and a winner of a Forbes 30 under 30 Award.  The trio discuss: what is the role of the MENA region in fighting climate change, how can nations effectively coordinate to incentivise each other to act now, and why low hanging fruit like reducing methane emissions could help us Order the Disorder.  Twitter: @DisorderShow  Subscribe to our Substack: https://natoandtheged.substack.com/   Website: https://natoandtheglobalenduringdisorder.com/   Producer: George McDonagh Exec Producer: Neil Fearn  Show Notes Links  Listen to our previous Climate Change focusing on COP episode at: https://pod.link/1706818264/episode/57a09a9714313530fa16475c09396f7b   For more on COP and collective action: https://www.economist.com/leaders/2023/12/13/in-a-first-cop28-targets-the-root-cause-of-climate-change   How MENA countries face achieving climate resilience: https://carnegieendowment.org/research/2024/04/assessing-climate-adaptation-plans-in-the-middle-east-and-north-africa?lang=en   Exploring the Energy Transition and Net-Zero Strategies of Gulf Oil Producers: https://www.bakerinstitute.org/research/exploring-energy-transition-and-net-zero-strategies-gulf-oil-producers   A profile of our Queen for an episode: https://www.forbes.com/profile/olivia-azadegan/    Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Renowned Israeli military historian Martin Van Creveld discusses the constant elements of warfare throughout history, highlighting the importance of defense, counterinsurgency tactics, and deterrence. He explores the imitative nature of war, motivations for fighting, propaganda, and the need for better understanding between Israelis and Palestinians.

Exploring the clash between progressive foreign policy and global disorder, dissecting the left's stance on economy and foreign policy. Discussing the implications of restraint in US hegemonic power and critiquing the progressive vision of foreign policy. Delving into the complexities of international partnerships and humanitarian practices while contemplating the essence of international order and the risks of a disordered world.