
The C.S. Lewis podcast
A weekly podcast from Premier Unbelievable? with Professor Alister McGrath exploring C.S. Lewis’ thought, theology and teaching.
C.S. Lewis is one of the most influential voices in modern Christianity. The 20th Century British writer and lay theologian has profoundly impacted Christians around the world and brought many atheists and agnostics to faith in Jesus.
One person whose faith was greatly encouraged by the writings of C.S. Lewis is Professor Alister McGrath. Both men were raised in Northern Ireland, studied at Oxford University and went on to become professors there. They also both came to faith from atheism slightly later in life. Alister has written numerous books on C.S. Lewis, including a seminal biography C.S. Lewis – A Life.
Every Monday, Ruth Jackson and Professor Alister McGrath will reflect on C.S. Lewis’ ideas, life and influence as well as trying to answer questions that impact culture today.
Latest episodes

Mar 31, 2025 • 21min
#203 Alister McGrath: How CS Lewis bridged the gap between faith and scientific understanding
In this engaging discussion, Professor Alister McGrath, a respected theologian and author specializing in C.S. Lewis, delves into how Lewis reconciled faith with scientific inquiry. McGrath highlights Lewis's evolution from viewing science and religion as conflicting to recognizing their potential harmony. They explore the tension between scientism and faith, emphasizing how Lewis's writings inspire scientists to bridge their beliefs with their work. A fascinating examination of the interplay between imagination and reason in understanding our universe!

Mar 24, 2025 • 15min
#202 Alister McGrath: What did CS Lewis think of science? Part 1
In part 1 of our new series on science, Ruth Jackson is joined by Alister McGrath to explore how CS Lewis approached the relationship between science and religion. A former atheist and Oxford-trained scientist, McGrath unpacks how Lewis combined reason and imagination to challenge scientific materialism while affirming science’s value within a broader vision of reality. From Mere Christianity to That Hideous Strength they discuss Lewis’s enduring relevance in today’s science-faith debates. McGrath also shares insights from his forthcoming OUP book on Lewis’s influence in this area.
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Mar 17, 2025 • 31min
#201 Holly Ordway: Tolkien, suffering and the problem of evil
Ahead of Tolkien Reading Day on 25th March, Dr Holly Ordway, author of Tolkien’s Faith, explores the contrasting spiritual journeys of J.R.R. Tolkien and CS Lewis—both of whom experienced the profound early loss of their mothers. While Tolkien’s faith deepened through suffering, Lewis famously declared that even amid the horrors of World War I, he "never sank so low as to pray." Dr Ordway reflects on Tolkien’s response to suffering, the problem of evil, and the role Lewis played in strengthening his faith.
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Mar 10, 2025 • 30min
#200 Ruth Jackson: 200th Episode Special
Ruth Jackson shares some of her favourite moments from the podcast to celebrate the 200th episode. We will be revisiting conversations with Alister McGrath discussing CS Lewis' relevance and mental health, hearing stories on how Lewis helped bring people to faith, his correspondence with Kathy Keller, and his impact on the creative works of film director Matthew Brown and singer songwriter Sarah Hawkyard.
For Carloyn Webber: https://www.premierunbelievable.com/the-cs-lewis-podcast/the-cs-lewis-podcast-129-dr-carolyn-weber-surprised-by-oxford/16637.article
For Kathy Keller: https://www.premierunbelievable.com/the-cs-lewis-podcast/the-cs-lewis-podcast-157-kathy-keller-one-of-the-last-people-to-correspond-with-lewis-before-his-death/17625.article
For Scott Tuohy: https://www.premierunbelievable.com/the-cs-lewis-podcast/the-cs-lewis-podcast-178-scott-tuohy-a-lewis-quotation-changed-my-life/18303.article
For Professor Alister McGrath (1): https://www.premierunbelievable.com/the-cs-lewis-podcast/the-cs-lewis-podcast-175-alister-mcgrath-what-would-lewis-think-of-jordan-peterson/18192.article
For Sarah Hawkyard: https://www.premierunbelievable.com/the-cs-lewis-podcast/the-cs-lewis-podcast-182-sarah-hawkyard-cs-lewis-changed-everything/18443.article
For Matthew Brown: https://www.premierunbelievable.com/the-cs-lewis-podcast/the-cs-lewis-podcast-163-matthew-brown-what-would-sigmund-freud-and-cs-lewis-discuss/17843.article
For Professor Alister McGrath (2): https://www.premierunbelievable.com/the-cs-lewis-podcast/the-cs-lewis-podcast-134-alister-mcgrath-is-there-an-expiry-date-on-lewis-relevance/16838.article
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Mar 3, 2025 • 30min
#199 Michael Oppizzi: Why Till We Have Faces Still Speaks to Us Today
In this third and final episode with Michael Oppizzi, Ruth Jackson asks about his groundbreaking research on planetary symbolism in Till We Have Faces, CS Lewis’s final and often misunderstood novel.
Did Lewis truly abandon his fascination with planetary imagery after The Chronicles of Narnia? How does medieval cosmology shape the novel’s themes of love, self-deception, and transformation? And why does Till We Have Faces still resonate so powerfully with modern readers?
Michael shares insights from his paper, presented at the Undiscovered CS Lewis Conference, and his upcoming book project, revealing how planetary themes structure the novel’s vision of truth and divine encounter. Can Lewis’s work still teach us today about faith, myth, and the nature of human longing?
For the Mere Christians conference in May: https://www.merechristians.net/
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Feb 24, 2025 • 20min
#198 CS Lewis’ Final Novel: Ancient Myth and Modern Relevance
In this chat, Michael Oppizzi, an independent educator and cultural apologetics expert, explores C.S. Lewis's lesser-known novel, *Till We Have Faces*. He discusses its rich themes of identity, silence, and self-deception, and how they mirror modern struggles. The conversation highlights the interplay between ancient mythology and contemporary issues, showcasing Lewis's literary depth. Oppizzi also dives into the novel's medieval imagery and why it remains profoundly relevant today, inviting listeners to reflect on their own searches for truth.

Feb 17, 2025 • 20min
#197 The Many Faces of CS Lewis: A Conversation with Michael Oppizzi
In this episode, host Ruth Jackson speaks with Michael Oppizzi, an educator and cultural apologist, about the enduring relevance of CS Lewis. They discuss Lewis’s impact on faith, imagination, and intellect, with a deep dive into Till We Have Faces, the role of letters in shaping thought, and the significance of cultural apologetics today. From planetary imagery to organic farming, this conversation explores the intersection of literature, theology, and real-world experience.
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Feb 10, 2025 • 28min
#196 How did Shakespeare influence Lewis' exploration of death, resurrection and the human condition?
How did "great myths" shape Lewis' understanding of Christian truth? Dr Sarah Waters, assistant professor of language and literature at Stirling College, Kansas, continues to explore the intriguing intersection between Shakespeare's literary genius and CS Lewis' spiritual journey. Sarah recently presented this paper at the 2024 Undiscovered CS Lewis conference, which was held at George Fox University. The title of Sarah’s paper was 'An Undiscovered Source in Lewis’ Conversion Narrative'.
For more on Sarah Waters: https://orcid.org/0000-0001-9681-3361
For the volume of An Unexpected Journal that Sarah co-edited: An Unexpected Journal
For her article on Lewis, Lear, and The Four Loves - An Unexpected Journal
For Sarah on Lewis and Hamlet: https://dc.swosu.edu/mythlore/vol43/iss1/4/
For Sarah's article on Lewis' rhetoric in Linguaculture: https://journal.linguaculture.ro/index.php/home/article/view/355
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Feb 3, 2025 • 33min
#195 Sarah Waters: Did Shakespeare play a role in Lewis' conversion?
How did William Shakespeare influence CS Lewis’ conversion to Christianity? Dr Sarah Waters, assistant professor of language and literature at Sterling College, Kansas, draws connections between Lewis’ faith journey and his engagement with Shakespeare’s works. How do Hamlet and The Winter’s Tale connect to his famous conversation with JRR Tolkien and Hugo Dyson? Were there particular insights Dyson offered Lewis that have previously gone largely unnoticed? Why have both Lewis and Shakespeare stood the test of time?
For the ‘CS Lewis You Never Knew’ live event in Oxford: https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/the-cs-lewis-you-never-knew-exploring-meaning-truth-and-technology-tickets-1205320709689?aff=oddtdtcreator
For more on Sarah Waters: https://orcid.org/0000-0001-9681-3361
For the volume of An Unexpected Journal that Sarah co-edited: An Unexpected Journal
For her article on Lewis, Lear, and The Four Loves - An Unexpected Journal
For Sarah on Lewis and Hamlet: https://dc.swosu.edu/mythlore/vol43/iss1/4/
For Sarah’s article on Lewis’ rhetoric in Linguaculture: https://journal.linguaculture.ro/index.php/home/article/view/355
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Jan 27, 2025 • 27min
#194 Sarah Waters: How Lewis grew to love Shakespeare
What was Lewis' favourite Shakespeare play? Dr Sarah Waters, assistant professor of language and literature at Sterling College, Kansas, delves into Lewis' literary accessibility and theological insights, uncovering the timeless relevance of his work. What moved Lewis from disliking Shakespeare as a child to incorporating numerous references in his own work? Are there any obvious parallels between Shakespeare and Lewis?
Come and be part of an as live recording of The CS Lewis Podcast with Alister McGrath and Ruth Jackson on Wednesday, February 5 2025 at Wycliffe Hall, Oxford. You need to book here to attend:https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/1205320709689?aff=oddtdtcreator
The event is entitled ‘The CS Lewis you never knew’. There will q and a, book signing followed by refreshments. This event at Wycliffe Hall, Oxford is part of their New Renaissance project. Wycliffe Hall’s Summer School delves deeper into C.S Lewis’ theology and explores his footsteps in Oxford and Cambridge. Find out more here: https://www.wycliffe.ox.ac.uk/summerschool2025
For more on Sarah Waters: https://orcid.org/0000-0001-9681-3361
For the volume of An Unexpected Journal that Sarah co-edited: An Unexpected Journal
For her article on Lewis, Lear, and The Four Loves - An Unexpected Journal
For Sarah on Lewis and Hamlet: https://dc.swosu.edu/mythlore/vol43/iss1/4/
For Sarah's article on Lewis' rhetoric in Linguaculture: https://journal.linguaculture.ro/index.php/home/article/view/355
+ Subscribe to The CS Lewis podcast: https://pod.link/1560959545
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