
Excess Returns
Excess Returns is dedicated to making you a better long-term investor and making complex investing topics understandable. Join Jack Forehand, Justin Carbonneau and Matt Zeigler as they sit down with some of the most interesting names in finance to discuss topics like macroeconomics, value investing, factor investing, and more. Subscribe to learn along with us.
Latest episodes

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Mar 7, 2025 • 37min
Money Delusions: Barry Ritholtz on the Elusive Definition of Money and How Not to Invest It
Barry Ritholtz, author of "How Not to Invest," dives into the psychology behind money and investing. He reveals that money should be viewed as a tool for personal freedom, not just as wealth. Childhood experiences heavily shape our money attitudes and behaviors. Ritholtz discusses the impact of market crashes across different life stages and warns against misinformation from social media. He advocates for humility in financial decision-making and highlights the importance of diversifying investments to avoid common pitfalls.

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Feb 27, 2025 • 57min
The Market Illusion: Mike Green on Inflation, Geopolitics and the Hidden Recession
Mike Green, an investment strategist known for his insights on market dynamics and economic trends, joins to unravel the complexities of today’s financial landscape. He discusses the outdated nature of traditional economic indicators in light of the gig economy. Mike explains how the Fed's interest rate hikes benefitted the wealthy while highlighting the dim realities masked by a strong S&P 500. He also draws parallels between current political and economic conditions and historical transformations, challenging listeners to reconsider their views on markets, inflation, and geopolitics.

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Feb 21, 2025 • 1h 5min
Nine Timeless Lessons from 2024 | Larry Swedroe
Larry Swedroe, a seasoned finance expert, shares nine crucial lessons investors learned from the unpredictable landscape of 2024. He unpacks why market forecasts often fail, debunks the 'Sell in May and Go Away' myth, and highlights the vital role of diversification. With insights on the cyclical nature of asset returns and the pitfalls of active management, Larry emphasizes patience in investment strategies. His engaging anecdotes and practical advice provide a roadmap for escaping common behavioral biases and building resilient portfolios.

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Feb 13, 2025 • 50min
A $33 Billion Value Manager Who Has Actually Outperformed | Scott McBride
Scott McBride, CEO and portfolio manager at Hotchkis and Wiley, shares his two decades of experience in value investing at a $33 billion firm. He discusses how market sentiment can create long-term opportunities and the significance of company governance over traditional valuation metrics. McBride emphasizes the importance of team culture, a contrarian mindset, and the benefits of analyzing less-covered stocks. He also touches on the impact of AI and the potential in international markets, particularly in Europe and the UK.

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Feb 7, 2025 • 1h 5min
Show Us Your Portfolio: Mike Taylor | Inside the Investment Strategy of a Hedge Fund Veteran
Mike Taylor, a seasoned portfolio manager at Simplify’s PINK healthcare ETF, brings a wealth of experience from top hedge funds like Citadel and Millennium. He discusses the importance of having 'skin in the game' and shares insights on high-conviction investments. Mike's unique take on international investing and macro trends provides valuable lessons for navigating global economic challenges. He also reflects on the complexities of market dynamics, equity analysis, and even shares a personal passion for cars, intertwining financial wisdom with his interests.

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Feb 5, 2025 • 1h 4min
Tariffs, Bear Markets and the Hidden Knowledge Worker Recession | Dave Nadig and Jason Buck
In this lively discussion, hosts tackle trade wars and their unexpected parallels in personal relationships. They delve into the rise of home-based fabrication and how 3D printing is reshaping production. The conversation shifts to volatile experiences in the cryptocurrency market, reflecting on NFTs and investment absurdities. Additionally, they explore the disconnect between strong labor statistics and the real struggles of knowledge workers. The episode wraps up with insights on youth challenges in the music industry against a backdrop of economic uncertainty.

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Jan 30, 2025 • 1h 8min
Timeless Lessons from History's Best Traders | Jack Schwager
In a captivating discussion, veteran trader and author Jack Schwager shares insights drawn from his interactions with the world's top traders, including legends like George Soros. Schwager highlights the unchanging nature of trading psychology and the essential role of risk management. He emphasizes the difference between true risk and volatility, drawing from notable events like the 2008 financial crisis. Schwager also previews his upcoming book, promising to deliver timeless lessons for both new and seasoned traders.

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Jan 27, 2025 • 57min
Practical Lessons from Cliff Asness
Cliff Asness, the founder of AQR Capital Management and a leader in quantitative investing, injects humor into serious discussions about market efficiency. He challenges the myth of rigid morning routines, advocates for embracing investment discomfort, and reflects on the evolution of factor investing. Cliff shares thoughts on passive investing’s sustainability and warns against emotional reactions by encouraging investors to minimize portfolio check-ins. His unique blend of wit and wisdom makes complex financial concepts refreshingly accessible.

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Jan 23, 2025 • 1h 12min
Busting 50 Years of Investing Myths | Rob Arnott
In this engaging discussion, Rob Arnott, the founder of Research Affiliates and a pioneer of fundamental indexing, shares over 40 years of investment wisdom. He tackles pervasive investing myths, debunks the misapplication of 'smart beta,' and highlights the deceptive nature of historical returns. Arnott also explores the inefficiencies created by index funds and the current challenges for U.S. growth stocks. Additionally, he emphasizes the potential of small-cap and value stocks in today's market, providing valuable insights for savvy investors.

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Jan 16, 2025 • 58min
Building Intelligent Alpha Portfolios with ChatGPT | Doug Clinton
In this chat with Doug Clinton, an AI expert from Intelligent Alpha, we dive into the groundbreaking use of large language models like ChatGPT in investment strategies. Doug reveals how these AI systems construct portfolios that minimize emotional biases, enhancing stock selection and position sizing. The conversation touches on the delicate balance between human intuition and machine efficiency in investing. Doug also shares insights on the future of AI, pondering whether it will complement human analysts or take a more dominant role.