

Product Talk
Products That Count
Produced by Products That Count, a 501(c)3 nonprofit that helps everyone build great products, this podcast is an award-winning show by and for product minds, with millions of downloads and a 5-star rating on most major platforms. Each of the 300+ episodes features a product leader interviewing another product leader and exploring what it takes to build great products. Recent ones feature the Chief Product Officers of Brex, Glassdoor, Experian and more.
About Us: Products that Count is a 501(c)3 nonprofit that helps everyone build great products. It celebrates product excellence through coveted Awards that inspire 500,000+ product managers and honor great products and the professionals responsible for their success. It accelerates the career and rise to the C-suite of 30% of all Product Managers globally by providing exceptional programming – including award-winning podcasts and popular newsletters – for free. It acts as a trusted advisor to all CPOs at Fortune 1000, and publishes key insights from innovative companies, like Capgemini, SoFi, and Amplitude, that turn product success into business success. Learn more at ProductsThatCount.com.
About Us: Products that Count is a 501(c)3 nonprofit that helps everyone build great products. It celebrates product excellence through coveted Awards that inspire 500,000+ product managers and honor great products and the professionals responsible for their success. It accelerates the career and rise to the C-suite of 30% of all Product Managers globally by providing exceptional programming – including award-winning podcasts and popular newsletters – for free. It acts as a trusted advisor to all CPOs at Fortune 1000, and publishes key insights from innovative companies, like Capgemini, SoFi, and Amplitude, that turn product success into business success. Learn more at ProductsThatCount.com.
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Jun 4, 2025 • 54min
EP 545 - AI Playbook Special: Navigating the Inevitable Yet Uncertain Future of AI
Want to know how top product leaders are navigating the AI revolution? In this podcast hosted by Products That Count Resident CPO Renee Niemi, Microsoft General Manager Monica Ugwi and Capgemini Global Offering Leader Keith Glendon will be speaking on the future of AI in product leadership. These industry experts share raw insights from conversations with Chief Product Officers about transforming businesses through responsible and strategic AI implementation.

Jun 2, 2025 • 42min
EP 544 - CPO Rising Series: Checkr CPO on Building Customer-Centric Product Innovation
What are the secrets of transformative product leadership? In this episode of the CPO Rising Series hosted by Products That Count Resident CPO Renee Niemi, Checkr Chief Product Officer Ilan Frank will be speaking on driving customer value through innovative product strategies. Ilan shares his 28-year journey from engineer to product leader, revealing how companies can balance rapid innovation with meaningful customer solutions.

May 30, 2025 • 38min
EP 543 - EcoVadis Fmr CPO on Scaling Product Teams from Single to Multi-Product
How can product leaders transform a single-product company into a multi-product powerhouse? In this podcast hosted by Barbara Bermes, EcoVadis former CPO Madhur Aggarwal will be speaking on scaling product teams and driving strategic growth. Madhur shares insights from his experience tripling EcoVadis' revenue and expanding their product suite, offering valuable lessons for product leaders looking to drive meaningful business outcomes.

May 28, 2025 • 44min
EP 542 - DoorDash Fmr Sr Product Director on Building High-Impact Product Teams Through Focus and Customer Orientation
David Jesse, former Senior Product Director at DoorDash, shares his wealth of experience in building impactful product teams. He dives into disciplined leadership and the importance of customer focus in product development. Jesse discusses navigating growth transitions and the complexities of adapting strategies. He uses sports analogies to assess team health and emphasizes results over mere feature launches. Finally, the conversation touches on balancing AI integration with core product principles to drive meaningful outcomes.

May 26, 2025 • 47min
EP 541 - CPO Rising Series: Bloomberg Head of Product on Building Customer-Centric Media Products
How can media companies reinvent themselves in the age of AI? In this episode of the CPO Rising Series hosted by Products That Count Resident CPO Renee Niemi, Bloomberg Media Global Head of Product Marissa Zanetti-Crume shares her insights on building customer-centric media products. She reveals how Bloomberg is transforming its approach by prioritizing audience needs and leveraging data to drive innovation and growth in a rapidly changing media landscape.

May 23, 2025 • 32min
EP 540 - EY Lead Experience Strategist on Human-Centered AI Design and Ethical Technology Development
How AI can truly serve humanity? In this podcast hosted by EY Platform Operations Lead Justin Leibow, EY Lead Experience Strategist Jasmine Orange will be speaking on human-centered AI design and ethical technology development. Jasmine shares insights on creating AI experiences that prioritize diversity, inclusivity, and user needs, drawing from her extensive design background and academic research in human-computer interaction. Learn how designers and technologists can ensure AI enhances rather than replaces human potential.

May 21, 2025 • 34min
EP 539 - Stepwise CEO & Co-Founder on Doing Well While Doing Good with EV Charging Products
How do you build a climate tech product that balances user needs, complex infrastructure, and real-world impact? The scale and urgency of the transformation required to fight climate change has never been more clear. Building hardware and software products, acquiring the funding and creating a diverse community to enhance talent capacity and to drive innovation, is essential to tackling this global environmental crisis. In this episode, Silicon Valley Bank SVP of Climate Tech & Sustainability Maggie Wong meets with Stepwise CEO & Co-Founder Jane Chen to discuss aligning incentives and user journeys of homeowners, electricians and utility companies to optimize EV charging infrastructure, building a product to maximize economic and environmental benefits regardless of macroenvironment, as well as creating a strong feedback loop between sales and engineering early in the development process.

May 19, 2025 • 51min
EP 538 - CPO Rising Series: Cisco EVP & CPO on Building World-Class Products with a Founder's Mindset
Are you ready to learn how to build products that truly count? In this episode of the CPO Rising Series hosted by Products That Count Resident CPO Renee Niemi, Cisco's Executive Vice President and Chief Product Officer Jeetu Patel will be speaking on maintaining a founder's mindset at scale. Jeetu shares transformative insights on product leadership, AI's impact, and creating a culture of innovation that can turn even a large enterprise into the world's largest startup.

May 14, 2025 • 43min
EP 536 - Strategyn Founder & CEO on Making Product Innovation Predictable
Join Tony Ulwick, founder of Strategyn and pioneer of the Jobs to Be Done theory, as he unpacks the secrets to making product innovation predictable. He discusses how viewing innovation as a structured process can align teams around specific consumer needs. Tony shares insights on defining customer roles within product teams for better alignment. Plus, he highlights the impact of business model innovations, using examples like Airbnb and the iPhone to illustrate the need for a consumer-centric approach in today's market.

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May 12, 2025 • 47min
EP 535 - CPO Rising Series: Pendo CPO on Product Leadership in the AI Era
In this discussion, Trisha Price, Chief Product Officer of Pendo.io, shares her journey from software engineer to product leader. She emphasizes the importance of a product-led mindset that prioritizes customer needs amidst rising AI technologies. Trisha discusses cultivating an innovative culture and how to effectively leverage key metrics for sustainable growth. Additionally, she touches on balancing leadership with family life, sharing insights on effective leadership traits and diversity in product management.


