The Leadership Podcast

Rich Diviney lives to discover, inspire, and accelerate the potential of human beings. As a Retired Navy SEAL Commander, he completed more than 13 overseas deployments. He also spearheaded the creation of a directorate that fused physical, mental, and emotional disciplines. In January 2021, Rich will release his first book, The Attributes: 25 Hidden Drivers of Optimal Performance. Rich breaks down how your average teams can become high-performing teams, the mental strategies we can use to overcome stressful situations, and why we need to screen for attributes, not necessarily skill sets. Rich also works with Simon Sinek to help leaders and organizations create environments where people feel valued and free to explore their potential. Key Takeaways [4:25] When RIch was tasked with creating resilience among SEAL Teams, he created the "Mind Gym" concept. [6:00] Rich believed that, through resiliency, you could label and reframe PTSD in a new way. [10:15] One of the ways we can take care of ourselves mentally is to slow down and to let our brains rest. Sleep is the #1 way to recover. [11:05] If you're stressed out, turn off the news. It's one of the primary sources of stress because they throw so many unknown variables at you. [14:25] Rich is not always striving for peak performance. Instead, he searches for optimal performance, which he defines as, "How can you do the very best you can in the moment with what you've got." [17:25] Our attributes will tell us how we will perform when things go sideways. The good news is that we can develop our attributes. [21:55] Why does someone want to be in special operations forces? Rich believes that the reason is actually rooted in narcissism. We all want to be the best. We all want to prove we are the best. [24:15] Rich breaks drive down into five attributes: Self-efficacy. Discipline. Open-mindedness. Cunning. Narcissism. [27:15] The smaller the team or the smaller the organization, Rich doesn't see the same "groupthink" traits as he does in larger organizations. He believes this is due to lack of structure and corporate refinement. [32:10] You are not allowed to designate yourself as a leader. Leadership is a behavior that others are drawn to. People choose to follow a leader. [37:55] It is completely possible to recharge our mental and physical wellbeing during a stressful situation. It can be through meditation, through a quick nap, or even a visualization of what makes you happy. [44:00] In high-performing teams, Leadership roles and responsibilities will change to different people based on their expertise or who might be closer to a situation at the time. Rich has seen that leadership is fluid and people, including leaders, will shift power roles to the one who is most capable given the situation. [44:35] Trust is the key element to any high-functioning and high-performing team. They lean on each other. [45:35] Listener challenge: Break some of the preconceived constraints and boundaries that have been built on your current team. Quotable Quotes "Resiliency doesn't describe what high performers do. Resiliency by definition is the ability to get knocked off of baseline and get back to baseline." "One of the ways we can all take care of ourselves mentally is to actively find ways to slow ourselves down and turn off the outside world." "Things that bring you joy. Any time you engage in an activity that you feel more full after doing, you're likely in recovery mode." "What defines optimal performance — can you keep on moving and what are the attributes you bring to the table?" "If teams want to figure out how to manage in uncertainty, they need to look at attributes vs. just skill." "We are biologically designed to want to stand out. Narcissism in small doses, the desire to be special, can be a very, very powerful driver in performance." Resources Mentioned Rich's website & upcoming book: Theattributes.com Antifragile: Things That Gain from Disorder, by Nassim Nicholas Taleb Grit: The Power of Passion and Perseverance, by Angela Duckworth The Leadership Podcast is Sponsored by: Cultivate Grit. Amplify Action. Investing in yourself isn't selfish. Click HERE to get gritty! Free downloads of Quick Reference Guides on Delegation, Time Management, Sales, and more.

Kwame Christian, ESQ. is an attorney, meditator, and the author of the best selling book, Finding Confidence in Conflict: How to Negotiate Anything and Live Your Best Life. His book is an Amazon Best-Seller and has helped countless individuals overcome the fear, anxiety, and emotion often associated with difficult conversations through a branded framework called Compassionate Curiosity. Kwame walks us through how to leverage emotions to effectively bridge the gap between negotiation and conflict. Kwame is also the host of the world's most popular negotiation podcast, Negotiate Anything. Kwame's TEDx talk, Finding Confidence in Conflict, was the most popular TEDx Talk on the topic of conflict in 2017, and has been viewed over 150,000 times.Kwame also serves as a negotiation and conflict resolution professor at The Ohio State University's Moritz College of Law. The Dispute Resolution Program at Moritz is the top ranked dispute resolution program in the country. He is also a professor in Otterbein University's MBA program. Prior to practicing business law and founding ANI, Kwame worked at the Kirwan Institute doing civil rights work. While at Kirwan, Kwame focused on criminal justice and health equity. Key Takeaways [4:25] When you travel abroad to new and exotic locations, it can really test your negotiation abilities as you haggle for items you want at the market. [8:45] Kwame's book, Finding Confidence in Conflict, can be used in high-level stressful business negotiations as well as trying to communicate effectively with family. [10:05] Whether we like it or not, we are not thinking machines. We are feeling machines that happen to think. Emotions play a big part in everything we do. [11:25] Most times when people fail at negotiation, it's because they didn't address the underlying emotional issues. [14:10] The "natural" human doesn't want to engage in conflict. [16:20] Conflicts break down because there's a developed "me vs. you" narrative. [20:55] When addressing conflict or a difference in opinion, it's important to first recognize the emotions in ourselves as well as the emotions in others. [25:35] Kwame shares his thoughts on diversity and inclusion and what we need to be doing better to bridge the gap. [27:15] Everyone needs time to process their emotions to effectively communicate what they're feeling. However, men often do feel comfortable saying words like 'disappointed' or 'sad.' [29:15] Sometimes you need an outside perspective to help you dig deep within yourself in a way that you can't do by yourself. This can be a trusted friend, coach, or therapist. [29:55] When it comes to the way women negotiate and the literature out there, Kwame recognizes we're asking women to fend for themselves when we should all be advocating for them. [36:45] You're not going to be able to overcome your own biases unless you have a bit of self-awareness, and take the time to create solutions for them. [43:25] Listener challenge: Use the Compassionate Curiosity Framework: Acknowledging and Validating Emotions. Getting Curious with Compassion. Engaging in Joint Problem Solving. Quotable Quotes "The best things in life are on the other side of difficult conversations." "Our emotions are going to get the first shot of interpretation of anything." "We're working against our psychology when we just say, 'I'm going to pretend I don't have any emotions.'" "You can't overcome a problem if you don't know there's a problem." "Strengthen the foundation of your business by ensuring all employees feel heard, supported, and honored." Resources Mentioned Negotiate Anything Podcast Negotiation Guides Kwame's TEDx Talk Finding Confidence in Conflict: How to Negotiate Anything and Live Your Best Life The Righteous Mind: Why Good People Are Divided by Politics and Religion, by Jonathan Haidt The Confidence Code: The Science and Art of Self-Assurance — What Women Should Know, by Katty Kay Women Don't Ask: Negotiation and the Gender Divide, by Linda Babcock and Sara Laschever "It's Not About The Nail" The Leadership Podcast is Sponsored by: Cultivate Grit. Amplify Action. Investing in yourself isn't selfish. Click HERE to get gritty! Free downloads of Quick Reference Guides on Delegation, Time Management, Sales, and more.

Jen believes every single person on the planet is capable of tapping into their creativity. She helps people trust their own instincts and find the courage to take action with authenticity and heart. Using her 20+ years of experience in the Broadway community and her background in the arts, Jen encourages creative thinking and imagination, so that others can cultivate new ideas and share them with the world. Jen and Simon Sinek united several years ago when Jen began using the Golden Circle to inspire artists to make a greater impact with their work. Jen and Simon recognized that their combined efforts could help people across many different industries discover their WHY and bring it to life. Jen presents WHY-inspired keynotes and workshops on leadership, communication, and presentation skills so that individuals and organizations can have more impact with their ideas. Key Takeaways [3:40] We all possess the power to be creative. It is a skillset anybody can learn. [9:25] Everyone should take an acting class because the basic principles of acting are the basic principles of living. [12:15] We can all get better at listening to the end of a sentence. [16:45] A lot of Jen's clients have been with her for 15 years, so when COVID-19 hit, it didn't make sense to close down the business for good. Instead, her team decided to pivot virtually. [19:00] When we lose social connection, we end up being in threat mode and all we care about is survival. [23:15] As an optimist on Simon Sinek's team, Jen helps leaders develop their character through values-based ideas. [27:20] People's greatest fear is often public speaking. However, the heart of this fear really is the opinions of others. [33:45] Actors work and develop their "characters." Leaders and professionals can do the same to instill confidence and trust in the people they serve. [42:15] Listener challenge: Bring art into artless spaces. Quotable Quotes "Anything that can be interrupted doesn't actually have a right answer." Get better at listening to the end of a sentence "We talk about social distancing, but what we really need to do is rebrand that. It's physical distancing, but we need to find ways to be socially close to each other." "At the end of the day, it's not about the speaker, it's about the message." "Working on your character is understanding that everything you do has storytelling value. People are creating narratives out of your behaviors all the time." "We can work on our character and it doesn't make us any less authentic. It gives us the opportunity we know we can be." Resources Mentioned Simonsinek.com The Leadership Podcast is Sponsored by: Cultivate Grit. Amplify Action. Investing in yourself isn't selfish. Click HERE to get gritty! Free downloads of Quick Reference Guides on Delegation, Time Management, Sales, and more.

Part of your role as a leader is to create an environment where people are performing at their best; and that means creating an environment where risk is mitigated. However, how safe is too safe? Google conducted a study that looked into what defines a high-performing team. When people see each other as humans first, and coworkers second, it builds psychological safety. Jim and Jan discuss how to provide clarity for effective teaming, and the generational perspectives on risk… and reward. Key Takeaways [2:55] Teams that followed the agenda precisely to a 'T' weren't as effective as those who saw each other as people/humans first and coworkers second. [3:40] If you've ever watched elk in the wild, you'll know that they all face outward watching the horizon so that the herd has everyone's back. The same is true in trusted teams. [7:05] Find the good in others. [7:40] It can be a hard pill to swallow, but your opinions might be wrong. [10:15] Jim remembers a time where he and the neighborhood kids would make up new rules when they played sports and adapt to different situations being thrown at them. It seems the younger generation has a harder time working 'off the cuff' and this might be why there is a backlash with safety. [10:40] There are generational differences in how risk and safety are viewed. [11:35] Leaders might be sending two very different messages to people: We're saying we need to hyper-communicate/collaborate with the team, but at the same time you need to work independently and be resourceful. [13:25] Remember, risk is relative. As leaders, we need to be hyper-vigilant of what that looks like to different people. [18:10] Really pay attention to the assumptions you and others make. You break out of this by having difficult conversations. [23:10] Argue as if you're right, but listen as if you are wrong. [25:50] Stoicism is a balancing act. You don't want to completely control your emotions where you feel nothing. It's about recognizing them and responding to them without impulse. [28:45] You own the responsibility to be clear to your team. When you have empathy for the members of your team and the kind of journey they're on, you will have much more success getting alignment and engagement from your people. Quotable Quotes "Argue as if you're right, but listen as if you are wrong." "We have a whole bunch of biases. Check them at the door." "Hold your views lightly." "Do we pick actions that are for the greater good or do individual needs or rights — do they take precedent?" Resources Mentioned Project Aristotle Spitzercenter.org Steve Justice David Cote The Leadership Podcast is Sponsored by: Cultivate Grit. Amplify Action. Investing in yourself isn't selfish. Click HERE to get gritty! Free downloads of Quick Reference Guides on Delegation, Time Management, Sales, and more.

Frances Frei is a Professor of Technology and Operations Management at Harvard Business School, and her research involves understanding how leaders create the conditions for organizations and individuals to thrive. Frances discusses her new book, Unleashed: The Unapologetic Leader's Guide to Empowering Everyone Around You. She dives into fixing broken cultures by creating an environment of psychological safety. Key Takeaways [3:50] Trust can be lost in three critical ways: authenticity wobble, logic wobble, or an empathy wobble. [5:50] The logic wobble typically means you have sound logic but you lost the person in communication somewhere. [11:40] When it comes to delegation, it's on the leader to delegate well and to really examine where the process can be improved if tasks aren't being performed as expected. [12:35] Take radical accountability for your team member's success. [13:35] To achieve high-performing teams, they need to have psychological safety. In this climate, it can be hard to navigate this safety because people become guarded by another person's opposite opinion. [18:55] Cultures really like a redemption story. [21:25] It's on your shoulders, it's your obligation, to build trust when there is no trust. [25:35] If you want people within an organization to behave and act differently, you must get them to think differently. [29:15] Cultural values can become weaponized. When this happens, you have to scrap it and create a new one. [35:00] When it comes to diversity and inclusion, Frances wishes those words were reversed. If you are inclusive of difference, more and more difference is going to want to come and flourish. [38:00] We are instinctively tribal and try to find people who are similar to us. This means if we can't think differently, we have to go through our instinctive nature and put in new processes to help us think differently. [41:30] Listener challenge: Seek a room where you're the least smart person in that room. Quotable Quotes "If I can delegate, I will be better off. Now, I have to learn how to delegate well." "Whether or not you trust me, it's my obligation." "Culture can fix good people behaving badly." "Culture exists in our minds and it manifests in our behaviors. Culture can change through education." "It started as diversity and inclusion, I wish we could reverse those words. I can bring in diversity, but if I'm not inclusive of it, it doesn't make anything better." "I don't want to take my difference and learn to be similar. I want to learn how to be different." Resources Mentioned Frances's website & book: Unleashed: The Unapologetic Leader's Guide to Empowering Everyone Around You Frances on LinkedIn "The Coddling of the American Mind," by Greg Lukianoff and Jonathan Haidt The Leadership Podcast is Sponsored by: Cultivate Grit. Amplify Action. Investing in yourself isn't selfish. Click HERE to get gritty! Free downloads of Quick Reference Guides on Delegation, Time Management, Sales, and more.

Joel Peterson is the chairman of JetBlue Airways, and has a long history of successful growth capital investments in a variety of industries. He currently teaches Entrepreneurial Management at Stanford's Graduate School of Business, and serves as a Director of Franklin Covey. He holds an MBA from Harvard Business School. Joel is the author of Entrepreneurial Leadership: The Art of Launching New Ventures, Inspiring Others, and Running Stuff, and The 10 Laws of Trust: Building the Bonds that Make a Business Great. Key Takeaways [2:10] Joel has 7 kids and 28 grandkids. He had to get good at time management as well as people management! [4:00] It's important to fire people with empathy. Just because they no longer fit your organization's needs doesn't mean they're still not great people. [8:20] Sales is incredibly vital to an organization, but the way people buy today is completely different than 20-plus years ago, and for that, we also need to be adapting and changing our sales strategies. [10:25] Trust is the most powerful currency you have, but in order to have trust, the other person must feel like you have their best interests in mind and you're not just looking out for yourself. [12:20] Love sounds like it shouldn't be part of a business book or dialogue, but truly, if you have love for other people, it is an unlimited resource that will never be exhausted. [17:40] It's more important than ever for people to have a personal brand and to also best balance that with the interests of a company but this is not a new concept. People have always had an interest in protecting their reputations. [20:55] Trust has become a very precious commodity because it's so easy to violate it. [23:45] The best way to build trust is to trust people one event or one promise at a time. [27:30] It's a cop-out to repeat patterns that no longer serve you and blame it on how you were raised. You can change your patterns and rewrite upbringing. [30:30] Embrace the hardship in your life. It will be one of your best lessons. [33:35] Joel believes if you don't have adversity in your life, you end up creating your own trouble. To counter that, Joel believes reading biographies can help center you in a world that's otherwise pretty good, pretty positive, and low in conflict. [38:10] Listener challenge: Be intentional with your life. Quotable Quotes "In a dynamic business, you are going to outgrow people and people are going to change. Like a coach, you want the very best on your field and you need to do that in a good way." "None of us like to be sold, but we do like to buy something. Once you realize that, what you're really doing is becoming a phenomenal listener and solving problems." "The one resource that is never exhausted and can grow without bound is love." "You can actually rewrite your upbringings. You can overwrite what you inherited." "Break it down, get it simple again. If it gets simple again, you can execute. Being intentional and executing, you become a high-trust person." Resources Mentioned Website Joel on LinkedIn & @JoelCPeterson on Twitter Joel's books: Entrepreneurial Leadership: The Art of Launching New Ventures, Inspiring Others, and Running Stuff and The 10 Laws of Trust: Building the Bonds that Make a Business Great The Righteous Mind: Why Good People Are Divided by Politics and Religion, by Jonathan Haidt Churchill: Walking with Destiny, by Andrew Roberts The Churchill Factor: How One Man Made History, by Boris Johnson The Leadership Podcast is Sponsored by: Cultivate Grit. Amplify Action. Investing in yourself isn't selfish. Click HERE to get gritty! Free downloads of Quick Reference Guides on Delegation, Time Management, Sales, and more.

Gary Hamel is on the faculty of the London Business School and is a cofounder of the Management Lab, an organization that builds technology and tools to support breakthrough management innovation. Professor Hamel has been hailed by the Wall Street Journal as the world's most influential business thinker, and his landmark books have been translated into more than twenty-five languages. They include The Future of Management, What Matters Now, and Humanocracy: Creating Organizations as Amazing as the People Inside Them. Gary makes a passionate, data-driven argument for excising bureaucracy and replacing it with something better. Drawing on more than a decade of research and packed with practical examples, Gary lays out a detailed blueprint for creating organizations that are as inspired and ingenious as the human beings inside them. Key Takeaways [3:40] Employees feel powerless because they're not the CEO or in a leadership position. Truth is, employees hold a lot of power. [6:15] You don't need to take down the whole system to fix it. Experiment and see what works. [7:50] Most communication in organizations is horizontal, not vertical. [9:10] Gary shares an example of how employees can get the funding they need within their department without going through the lengthy budget planning and permission process. [12:20] In a recent poll, more than 56% of people thought that capitalism was doing more harm than good. [13:45] No matter your political side, people are frustrated by the broken system. [20:45] Being in a physical location does not impact whether an employee feels more connected to the company mission. [22:40] We live in an increasingly complex world, where changes happen rapidly and often. At the same time, bureaucracy is growing. Gary shares his thoughts on why that might be. [30:30] Breakthroughs often come from people who are very young or from outside the system. If you want to succeed, you need an outsider mindset. [33:35] We see human beings as instruments. We need to shift our focus and see them as agents instead. [35:45] Leaders think their people are resistant to change. This is a false narrative. [37:35] There is a reason why employees are so cynical. [42:00] Gary shares his proudest achievements and what he looks forward to in the future. [45:25] If you're a leader, ask yourself how do you increase the power of those around you? Quotable Quotes "If you're really fed up with all of this and you think we need to change, don't wait for the bureaucrats to uninstall bureaucracy." "Every human being wants dignity and opportunity and equity. You want to believe you matter as a human being." "Only one in five employees believe their opinions matter and only one in 10 say they have the freedom to experiment and try new things." "You gotta empower people to make decisions on the frontline, give them the tools, knowledge, and incentives to do the right thing." "We are eager to change, but our organizations give people very few opportunities to be masters of their own destiny and lead change." Resources Mentioned Website Gary on LinkedIn & @Profhamel on Twitter Gary's books: Humanocracy: Creating Organizations as Amazing as the People Inside Them, What Matters Now: How to Win in a World of Relentless Change, Ferocious Competition, and Unstoppable Innovation, The Future of Management Dreams and Details, by Jim Hagemann Snabe and Mikael Trolle The Leadership Podcast is Sponsored by: Cultivate Grit. Amplify Action. Investing in yourself isn't selfish. Click HERE to get gritty! Free downloads of Quick Reference Guides on Delegation, Time Management, Sales, and more.

As a sports psychologist, Dr. Jerry Lynch works with world-renowned coaches and athletes. He's incorporated the teachings of a wide variety of different philosophies – from Eastern thought to Christian mysticism. Jerry shares stories of how to reframe your narrative, and use meditation to achieve both high performance and a relaxed state. Key Takeaways [7:50] Jerry provides an example of why you shouldn't focus on winning 100%, but instead focus on why you want to win the day. It takes pressure off the team. [10:55] Losing is, in many ways, winning. [13:30] Mistakes are a great learning point, but they can also kill you in war and other acts of conflict. [14:25] Focus on what you can control. When you're relaxed you have the ability to perform at higher levels. [16:15] Jerry shares stories of his father and his leadership capabilities. [18:15] Jerry was faced with his first leadership lesson when he was 25 years old and in the Navy. [20:15] Positivity is a critical piece to building a championship culture. [23:05] Jerry was starstruck by basketball coach Dean Smith (then retired), but Coach Smith had all the time in the world to answer his questions. Dean had a power of influence that moved Dr. Jerry. [33:35] Many athletes, Like Michael Jordan and Kobe Bryant, have used mediation to help them win. [36:45] Coaching is a profession of love. [40:00] There's a lot of fear in our environment. Fear breaks down our immune system and health. Win the day is about faith. Let's look at faith rather than fear. [43:45] Remember: Champion is a state of mind. Quotable Quotes "From our losses and our setbacks, we become better athletes." "The great teams that I've worked with, they had a way of going into battle and winning the battle before the war began by focusing on what they can control." "Your power of influence is so strong and it changes lives, it allows people to realize their full potential." "I want to feel my energy, I want to feel so connected to the work that I'm doing, the work that's ahead of me, that you can feel it too." "Coaching is a profession of love. You can't coach athletes unless you love them, when you do, you win the day." "Let's look at faith rather than fear." Resources Mentioned Website Dr. Jerry's book: Win the Day: Building and Sustain a Championship Culture Coaching with Heart: Taoist Wisdom to Inspire, Empower, and Lead in Sports & Life The Infinite Game, by Simon Sinek The Tao of Leadership: Lao Tzu's Tao Te Ching Adapted for a New Age, by John Heider Jim Thompson Phil Jackson Dean Smith The Audacity of Hope: Thoughts on Reclaiming the American Dream, by Barack Obama The Leadership Podcast is Sponsored by: Cultivate Grit. Amplify Action. Investing in yourself isn't selfish. Click HERE to get gritty! Free downloads of Quick Reference Guides on Delegation, Time Management, Sales, and more.

Amy Webb is a quantitative futurist and a bestselling, award-winning author. She is a professor of strategic foresight at the NYU Stern School of Business and the Founder of the Future Today Institute. Amy discusses what leaders need to be doing today to gain valuable foresight into their industry when faced with regular uncertainty. She also shares the framework on how we tend to think of future problems vs. how we should be thinking of future problems. Key Takeaways [3:00] Futurists don't make predictions, they make connections. [7:05] In artificial intelligence, some of the systems do not work as well as they could because they suffer from the 'paradox of the present.' [9:35] AI has been in development for hundreds of years now. [11:25] The best way to think of AI now is that it's the 3rd generation of computing. [15:55] If you want to make things better, you need to know what to measure. The problem is, people don't know how to measure the uncertainty of what's outside of their realm of knowledge. [17:25] The best way to navigate the unknown is by accepting that there will be a number of things you simply cannot control. [18:15] Most people are really good at measuring the stuff that they can control, but they do not account for everything else. You have to actively look outside of your field for trends and other signals. [20:50] Amy uses a framework called a time cone. The tip is filled with certainty, but as the base gets wider and wider, it becomes unclear where to go, yet we still have to make leadership decisions. [24:00] Take a look at Nintendo. Multiple times that company should have been disrupted out of business. [26:45] Just like anyone can be technically proficient at playing piano if they sit down and study it long enough, the same is true with foresight. [38:20] What prevents organizations from moving forward is the attempt to maintain the status quo in organizations. [42:15] If you do not comfort cherished beliefs over and over again, you become vulnerable. [45:05] Elon Musk and other technologists are concerned about AI and its power, which is why we need incredibly courageous leadership during this time. Quotable Quotes "I cannot think of an instance wherein an academic discipline or industry does not really, truly benefit from a cross-functional team and a diverse team." "This term artificial intelligence is meaningless because as soon as something works, we no longer think of it as approaching human-scale intelligence." "The only way to really solve that doubt is to go forth knowing that there are unknowable things over which you will have no control. That is a terrifying prospect." "Machines learn by repeatedly completing tasks that are in service of the stated goal or purpose." "What preserves the status quo is nobody is willing to ask difficult questions." "You can't chase certainty. Certainty is brittle. So instead of certainty, you should aim for being confident and instilling confidence in the people that work with you." Resources Mentioned Website Amy's book: The Big Nine: How The Tech Titans & Their Thinking Machines Could Warp Humanity NYU Stern School of Business The Leadership Podcast is Sponsored by: Cultivate Grit. Amplify Action. Investing in yourself isn't selfish. Click HERE to get gritty! Free downloads of Quick Reference Guides on Delegation, Time Management, Sales, and more.

Chris Kolenda is the Founder of the Strategic Leaders Academy, a West Point grad, retired Army Colonel, and author of the book, Leadership: The Warrior's Art. Chris has had the pleasure and not-so-great pleasure of working with a wide variety of leadership types and styles, including bullies. He explains how junior leaders, or anyone without leadership power, can stand up to abusive leaders and take control of their future. Key Takeaways [3:15] Chris served as a senior advisor for the Under Secretary of Defense, Michelle Flournoy, along with many 3-star and 4-star generals. Chris noticed that there is no single leadership ideal. [5:00] There are four different leadership archetypes: Pioneers, Reconcilers, Operators, and Mavericks. [7:45] Myers-Briggs is extremely useful, but it's difficult to keep 16 personality type of mind. [9:00] Chris has worked with three of these archetypes and shares the impact each one has had on him. [11:45] Leaders are like gardeners. They help people grow to the biggest and healthiest version of themselves. [14:45] Empathy plays an important role during a crisis. Take on the ability to see yourself in a situation in the eyes of others. [18:45] Wash away your assumptions and learn to adapt. [22:05] Chris was bullied and sexually assaulted when he was younger. He shares the long-term effects bullies have on a person. [25:25] If you've been bullied or assaulted, first recognize that this is not your fault. [27:15] You can stop a bully dead in their tracks by acknowledging them and calling them out (the right way). [29:25] Tell people right away. Don't wait 35-plus years to share your story. [36:15] Most organizations can't afford to take 6–8 months to go to a leadership course. It's just not feasible, so we need to find better ways to multiply our experiences. [42:45] Always lead with value. [43:30] Challenge to the listeners: Look at your culture and see if the most vulnerable people in your organization feel safe enough to bring their best and most authentic selves to work. Quotable Quotes "You don't have to try to copycat somebody else, you can just be you." "Leaders are like gardeners; they help each thing they are growing be the best and healthiest version of themselves." "The more people who are affected by bullying tell their story, the more it deters predators." "I encourage every person who is employed by a toxic, abusive bully, to leave." Resources Mentioned Website Chris's book: Leadership: The Warrior's Art Chris on LinkedIn Michèle Flournoy on The Leadership Podcast Stan McChrystal on The Leadership Podcast The Leadership Podcast is Sponsored by: Cultivate Grit. Amplify Action. Investing in yourself isn't selfish. Click HERE to get gritty! Free downloads of Quick Reference Guides on Delegation, Time Management, Sales, and more.