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Jed Payne, host of Church and Other Drugs Podcast, worries about the humanistic approach in progressive Christianity. They discuss OCD, original sin, the need for God, and the examine prayer.

After Dan’s solo mini episode on Israel-Hamas and the “End Times” (as conceived of by Left Behind-style premillennial dispensationalist Protestants), he wanted to go further in-depth on the background of that particular theology and reading of apocalyptic texts within the Bible. Dan Hummel (University of Wisconsin Madison) was gracious enough to join on short notice, and the two cover the history of dispensationalism, alternate readings of key texts in Revelation and Daniel, how dispensationalism became so popular, and the prediction track record of the carious popularizers of this view (spoiler alert: it’s BAD). For more geopolitical context, please listen to Dan’s interview with Tim Whitaker over at The New Evangelicals: Dan’s Website:https://www.danielghummel.com/The Rise and Fall of Dispensationalism Book:https://www.danielghummel.com/rise-and-fall-of-dispensationalism Dan Hummel’s Episode on The New Evangelicals Podcast:https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-new-evangelicals-podcast/id1557794865?i=1000631062869_____________Sign up for Tripp and Dan's class, “Live Before You Die: Existentialism in Theology & Psychology”: exploringexistentialism.com_____________Follow Dan on IG: www.instagram.com/dancoke/Or Twitter: twitter.com/DanKochFaith deconstruction resources: www.soyouredeconstructing.com/Edited by Josh Gilbert (joshgilbertmedia.com -- he is accepting more work!)Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankochEmail about the "sliding scale" for the Patreon:YHP Patron-only FB group: tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98Website: www.dankochwords.com/yhp.htmlJoin Dan's email list: www.dankochwords.com/Artwork by sprungle.co/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Exploring the fundamental problems of human existence through existentialism. The hosts announce an online learning community and discuss their evangelical backgrounds. They explore the intersection of existentialism and psychology. The limitations of conservative, evangelical approaches to religion and faith are examined. Supporting the podcast provides access to exclusive content and a patron-only Facebook group. Dichotomous thinking in theology and philosophy communities is explored. The hosts express excitement about the episode and discuss upcoming events.

Given recent events in Israel and Palestine, it is inevitable that Christians focused on the Rapture and a Left-Behind-style view of the “End Times” will begin to draw explicit connections between this war and the so-called “signs of Christ’s return.” Dan is planning at least one more episode on this topic, but in the meanwhile, these two episodes, featuring conversations with four Baby Boomers who lived through the Jesus Movement, ask the question, “Why was this End Times view so popular among this group?” Understanding their situation in the 70s and 80s can help us get a handle on the larger picture.*Re-broadcast* - End Times Popularity: Part 2 (#78)Original Description:Part 2 of a series that addresses the question, “Why was End Times/Left Behind/Rapture theology *so popular* by the time we grew up in the 90s and 2000s?” Please start with Part 1, last week’s episode. My main argument: 1. The people whose evangelizing kicked off the Jesus Movement were primarily fundamentalists and they were themselves already very focused on biblical prophecy2. In the early 70s, there was enough global chaos and uncertainty, along with one very important “fulfilled prophecy” that made it seem plausible that the world might indeed be coming to a close3. By the time Left Behind came around in the 90s, that same Jesus Movement generation held the primary places of power and influence in Evangelical circles Covered in this episode:- The Jesus Movement generation were the ones with cultural power in the Evangelical world by the time Left Behind came out- A straightforward and literal reading of the Bible is always popular, especially in America, and it plays into a few common American characteristics- Where are they now? All four interviewees relay their current beliefs about the End Times- Sally answers some of the questions the original interview subjects answered in the End Times Anxiety series.YHP End Times Related Episodes:End Times Popularity Part 1:https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/you-have-permission/id1448000113?i=1000487665623End Times Popularity Part 2:https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/you-have-permission/id1448000113?i=1000488367624End Times Anxiety: Part 1:https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/you-have-permission/id1448000113?i=1000462348895End Times Anxiety: Part 2:https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/you-have-permission/id1448000113?i=1000463143577End Times Anxiety: Part 3:https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/you-have-permission/id1448000113?i=1000463784092End Times Anxiety: Part 4:https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/you-have-permission/id1448000113?i=1000464463258The New Evangelical Episodes on Understanding Israel and Palestine:Part 1: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-new-evangelicals-podcast/id1557794865?i=1000630800157Part 2: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-new-evangelicals-podcast/id1557794865?i=1000631062869Part 3:https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-new-evangelicals-podcast/id1557794865?i=1000631185579_____________Sign up for Tripp and Dan's class, “Live Before You Die: Existentialism in Theology & Psychology”: exploringexistentialism.com_____________Follow Dan on IG: www.instagram.com/dancoke/Or Twitter: twitter.com/DanKochFaith deconstruction resources: www.soyouredeconstructing.com/Edited by Josh Gilbert (joshgilbertmedia.com -- he is accepting more work!)Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankochEmail about the "sliding scale" for the Patreon:YHP Patron-only FB group: tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98Website: www.dankochwords.com/yhp.htmlJoin Dan's email list: www.dankochwords.com/Artwork by sprungle.co/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Given recent events in Israel and Palestine, it is inevitable that Christians focused on the Rapture and a Left-Behind-style view of the “End Times” will begin to draw explicit connections between this war and the so-called “signs of Christ’s return.” Dan is planning at least one more episode on this topic, but in the meanwhile, these two episodes, featuring conversations with four Baby Boomers who lived through the Jesus Movement, ask the question, “Why was this End Times view so popular among this group?” Understanding their situation in the 70s and 80s can help us get a handle on the larger picture.*Re-broadcast* - End Times Popularity: Part 1 (#77)Original Description:Earlier this year, I released a 4-part series called End Times Anxiety, chronicling mental health and related challenges of younger folks who had been adversely affected by Left Behind and similar visions of the Rapture and end of the world within conservative Protestant theology and culture. Throughout working on that project, I found myself continually asking myself and others, “Why did they buy it in the first place? How did this thinking become *so popular*?” These two episodes are my attempt at answering that question, pulling from my own review of the available academic research as well as four interviews I conducted with Baby Boomers who had been a part of the Jesus Movement in the 1970s. My main argument is as follows:1. The people whose evangelizing kicked off the Jesus Movement were primarily fundamentalists and they were themselves already very focused on biblical prophecy2. In the early 70s, there was enough global chaos and uncertainty, along with one very important “fulfilled prophecy” that made it seem plausible that the world might indeed be coming to a close3. By the time Left Behind came around in the 90s, that same Jesus Movement generation held the primary places of power and influence in Evangelical circlesThis is not an exhaustive explanation, but it has helped me come up with a basic framework that helps me make sense of my 90s Left Behind-soaked experience. Hopefully, it might be helpful for you as well!YHP End Times Related Episodes:End Times Popularity Part 1:https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/you-have-permission/id1448000113?i=1000487665623End Times Popularity Part 2:https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/you-have-permission/id1448000113?i=1000488367624End Times Anxiety: Part 1:https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/you-have-permission/id1448000113?i=1000462348895End Times Anxiety: Part 2:https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/you-have-permission/id1448000113?i=1000463143577End Times Anxiety: Part 3:https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/you-have-permission/id1448000113?i=1000463784092End Times Anxiety: Part 4:https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/you-have-permission/id1448000113?i=1000464463258The New Evangelical Episodes on Understanding Israel and Palestine:Part 1: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-new-evangelicals-podcast/id1557794865?i=1000630800157Part 2: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-new-evangelicals-podcast/id1557794865?i=1000631062869Part 3:https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-new-evangelicals-podcast/id1557794865?i=1000631185579_____________Sign up for Tripp and Dan's class, “Live Before You Die: Existentialism in Theology & Psychology”: exploringexistentialism.com_____________Follow Dan on IG: www.instagram.com/dancoke/Or Twitter: twitter.com/DanKochFaith deconstruction resources: www.soyouredeconstructing.com/Edited by Josh Gilbert (joshgilbertmedia.com -- he is accepting more work!)Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankochEmail about the "sliding scale" for the Patreon:YHP Patron-only FB group: tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98Website: www.dankochwords.com/yhp.htmlJoin Dan's email list: www.dankochwords.com/Artwork by sprungle.co/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Dan's old college friend and country artist Sam Outlaw (born Sam Morgan) joins to talk about the role of his faith/spirituality in recovering from alcohol use disorder. Along the way, they discuss authoritative vs. nurturant parenting styles, messages they received about alcohol growing up Evangelical, some of the benefits of that upbringing, and the awkwardness inherent in many parachurch organizations. Dan also brings in some of the peer-reviewed research on 12-step programs and the role of spirituality in abstinence from drinking.http://www.samoutlaw.com/“Ghost Town” by Sam Outlaw: https://open.spotify.com/track/3VyaFDf706JddMz27syc2P?si=4dc0ef61630d4f45_____________Sign up for Tripp and Dan's class, “Live Before You Die: Existentialism in Theology & Psychology”: exploringexistentialism.com_____________Register for Theology Beer Camp: Theologybeer.campUse code: YHPGODPOD at checkout for $25 off!_____________Follow Dan on IG: www.instagram.com/dancoke/Or Twitter: twitter.com/DanKochFaith deconstruction resources: www.soyouredeconstructing.com/Edited by Josh Gilbert (joshgilbertmedia.com -- he is accepting more work!)Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankochEmail about the "sliding scale" for the Patreon:YHP Patron-only FB group: tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98Website: www.dankochwords.com/yhp.htmlJoin Dan's email list: www.dankochwords.com/Artwork by sprungle.co/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this podcast, the speakers discuss the misconception of the Israel-Palestine conflict being linked to the "End Times." They share personal experiences with end times teachings and the emotional abuse it can cause. The accuracy of end times predictions, such as the formation of Israel, is explored, while highlighting the failures of other predictions. The idea of the rapture is also discussed, along with past failed predictions, addressing the anxiety associated with these events. The speakers express their desire for minimal casualties and justice in the Israel-Palestine conflict.

Matthias Roberts joins me again! Previously we talked about healing from sexual shame; this week, he builds a bridge from that conversation to his new book Holy Runaways. After coming to terms (more or less) with sexuality issues, Matthias found that he and many of his friends were still unsure what to do with the whole “faith” thing. What was salvageable, and what were the stakes of ignoring this question? How can we avoid swapping one tribal manifesto for another?Matthias’s Book “Holy Runaways”:https://matthiasroberts.com/holyrunaways/Matthias’s Book “Beyond Shame”: https://matthiasroberts.com/beyondshame/Sexual Shame (#67) with Matthias:https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/you-have-permission/id1448000113?i=1000476415323To Critique Purity Culture (#22):https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/you-have-permission/id1448000113?i=1000438857512Denying & Embracing Emotions (#144) with Becky Castle Miller: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/you-have-permission/id1448000113?i=1000550307589_____________Sign up for Tripp and Dan's class, “Live Before You Die: Existentialism in Theology & Psychology”: exploringexistentialism.com_____________Register for Theology Beer Camp: Theologybeer.campUse code: YHPGODPOD at checkout for $25 off!_____________Follow Dan on IG: www.instagram.com/dancoke/Or Twitter: twitter.com/DanKochFaith deconstruction resources: www.soyouredeconstructing.com/Edited by Josh Gilbert (joshgilbertmedia.com -- he is accepting more work!)Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankochEmail about the "sliding scale" for the Patreon:YHP Patron-only FB group: tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98Website: www.dankochwords.com/yhp.htmlJoin Dan's email list: www.dankochwords.com/Artwork by sprungle.co/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

*Full episode on the Patreon feed*Psychotherapist Pamela Cooper-White shares about her book “The Psychology of Christian Nationalism." We talk about white supremacy, conscious and unconscious needs, motivating via fear, “crisis merchants,” and when to ask yourself questions like, "Am I the right person to have this convo?" or "Is this the right setting for this convo"?Pamela’s Book “The Psychology of Christian Nationalism”: https://www.amazon.com/Psychology-Christian-Nationalism-People-Across/dp/1506482112\Pamela’s Book “Exploring Practices of Ministry”: https://www.amazon.com/Exploring-Practices-Ministry-Foundations-Learning/dp/1451488939/ref=sr_1_1?crid=25OH51087TRPE&keywords=exploring+practices+of+ministry&qid=1696466135&s=books&sprefix=exploring+practices+of+ministry%2Cstripbooks%2C114&sr=1-1“The Psychology of Religious Fundamentalism” Episode with Pete Hill: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-psychology-of-religious-fundamentalism-34/id1448000113?i=1000448442686_____________Sign up for Tripp and Dan's class, “Live Before You Die: Existentialism in Theology & Psychology”: exploringexistentialism.com_____________Register for Theology Beer Camp: Theologybeer.campUse code: YHPGODPOD at checkout for $25 off!_____________Follow Dan on IG: www.instagram.com/dancoke/Or Twitter: twitter.com/DanKochFaith deconstruction resources: www.soyouredeconstructing.com/Edited by Josh Gilbert (joshgilbertmedia.com -- he is accepting more work!)Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankochEmail about the "sliding scale" for the Patreon:YHP Patron-only FB group: tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98Website: www.dankochwords.com/yhp.htmlJoin Dan's email list: www.dankochwords.com/Artwork by sprungle.co/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Dan and Tripp Fuller get themselves psyched for their upcoming online pop-up learning community on existentialism by sharing songs that remind them of death, isolation, freedom, meaning/meaninglessness, and courage. Learn more or sign up for their class, “Live Before You Die: Existentialism in Theology & Psychology”: exploringexistentialism.com_____________Register for Theology Beer Camp: Theologybeer.campUse code: YHPGODPOD at checkout for $25 off!_____________Follow Dan on IG: www.instagram.com/dancoke/Or Twitter: twitter.com/DanKochFaith deconstruction resources: www.soyouredeconstructing.com/Edited by Josh Gilbert (joshgilbertmedia.com -- he is accepting more work!)Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankochEmail about the "sliding scale" for the Patreon: YHP Patron-only FB group: tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98Website: www.dankochwords.com/yhp.htmlJoin Dan's email list: www.dankochwords.com/Artwork by sprungle.co/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices