
The Way Out Is In
This podcast series is aimed at helping us to transcend our fear and anger so that we can be more engaged in the world in a way that develops love and compassion.
Thich Nhat Hanh’s calligraphy ‘The Way Out Is In” highlights that the way out of any difficulty is to look deeply within, gain insights and then put them into practice.
"The Way Out is In" is co-hosted by Brother Phap Huu, Thich Nhat Hanh's personal attendant for 17 years and the abbot of Plum Village's Upper Hamlet, and Jo Confino, who works at the intersection of personal transformation and systems change.
The podcast is co-produced by the Plum Village App and Global Optimism, with support from the Thich Nhat Hanh Foundation.
Latest episodes

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Aug 12, 2021 • 55min
The Beginning of a Mindful Journey (Episode #1)
Hosts discuss the meaning of the podcast title, the art of calligraphy, and their encounters with Zen Master Thich Nhat Hanh. They share stories from life in the monastic community and Thich Nhat Hanh's early years as a monk. They also explore the practice of mindfulness and the importance of community. Additionally, they touch on the concept of 'the way out is in' and provide a guided meditation practice.

Aug 5, 2021 • 2min
Coming Soon
“The Way Out Is In” is a new weekly podcast by Plum Village where hosts Jo Confino and Brother Pháp Hữu explore how to bring the practise of mindfulness into our daily life. First episode launches on Friday the 13th of August.