
Liminal Phrames
Liminal Phrames is a podcast dedicated to the exploration of the meaning-making models we form around UFOs, contact with non-human intelligence, and paranormal experience. Not only do experiences with the UFO Phenomenon and high strangeness challenge conventional notions of reality, but they force us to venture into new territory altogether, pioneering a new framing of the real with blurred lines and indistinct categories. Hard answers may be hard to come by here, but on Liminal Phrames, Darren King (ExoAcademian) and Nathan are fully invested in asking these most intriguing of questions.
Latest episodes

Sep 11, 2022 • 1h 32min
013 - State of the Ufological Nation
In this episode Exo and Nathan return with a discussion around the current state of the ufological nation. Where are we at in the move towards disclosure? How is the community invested in this topic being impacted as revelations, and factions, emerge?

Jun 12, 2022 • 1h 29min
012 - Anomalous Experience & Interpretation
In this episode Exo and Nathan explore various ways, both in contemporary society and in the eras of our ancestors, that human beings have constructed interpretive models to make sense of anomalous experience.

May 29, 2022 • 1h 31min
011 - Modes of Extraordinary Contact
In this podcast, Exo and Nathan discuss a range of interrelated matters including military encounters with UFOs, near death experiences, and Terrence McKenna's claims about alien architecture behind psychedelic experiences. They explore different modes of extraordinary contact and their connection to the underlying fabric of reality. They also discuss the challenges of interpreting unidentified craft, the pros and cons of contact, and the impact of immersive experiences on our perception of reality.

May 15, 2022 • 1h 15min
010 - Thinking Outside the Box
In this episode Exo and Nathan address the efforts being made by certain figures such as Luis Elizondo to expand the parameters of the conversation being had regarding the origin and nature of the Others in our midst. Who are they? Who are we? What is "reality"? These are the questions that need to be on the table if we are to take this discussion to its logical conclusion.

May 1, 2022 • 1h 30min
009 - The Phenomenon & Civil Discourse
In this episode Exo and Nathan explore how personal experiences with the UFO Phenomenon and general paranormality fit within an ongoing societal debate around free speech, conspiracies, and the nature of knowledge itself.

Apr 17, 2022 • 1h 33min
008 - Beyond Binary Interpretations
In this episode Exo and Nathan look at common data points associated with the UFO Phenomenon and look to carve out a nuanced perspective. We also consider how time and perspective often change the interpretation of events involving High Strangeness, and how we ourselves inevitably become one of the factors involved in the nature of experiences with anomalous phenomena.

Apr 3, 2022 • 1h 30min
007 - Science, Religion & Paranormality
In this episode Exo and Nathan examine various tools at our disposal for analysis of the UFO Phenomenon and High Strangeness. We also look at meaning-making structures like Religion and Science, and how they have historically defined the parameters of "normality" for the collective.

Mar 20, 2022 • 1h 34min
006 - Alien Contact, NDEs & Reality Constructs
In this episode Exo and Nathan take a high-level approach to a range of diverse but related topics such as: the potential number of sources behind the Phenomenon, lessons to be learned from sagas like that of Anjali, and the implications arising from NDEs, OBEs and synchronicity. What, if any, crisscrossing lines can we draw amongst these, and what does that say about the ultimate nature of reality?

Mar 6, 2022 • 1h 34min
005 - Believers, Skeptics & Deniers
In this episode Exo and Nathan discuss the spectrum of positions from which people approach the UFO Phenomenon and High Strangeness in general. How do our preconceptions about reality and what's "possible" impact our engagement with a Phenomenon that refuses to play by the rules? What role, if any, does each of these base positions play in our overall aim for truth and understanding?

Feb 20, 2022 • 1h 32min
004 - Defining Disclosure
In this episode Exo & Nathan tackle the monster known as "Disclosure". What does the government know? How deep does the rabbit hole go? What are the potential ramifications if it happens? Are there scenarios where one can imagine valid justification for holding back any of these secrets? Is this disclosure merely about the Others in our midst - whether they be extraterrestrials, interdimensionals, time-traveling humans, or something else, or do the roots go even deeper - perhaps touching on the very fabric of ultimate reality?