

On Humans
Ilari Mäkelä
Where do we come from? What brings us together? Why do we love? Why do we destroy?
On Humans features conversations with leading scholars about human nature, human condition, and the human journey. From the origins of war to the psychology of love, each topic brings fresh insights into perennial questions about our self-understanding.
Support: Patreon.com/OnHumans
Articles: OnHumans.Substack.com
Focus areas: Anthropology, Psychology, Archaeology, Philosophy, Big History
On Humans features conversations with leading scholars about human nature, human condition, and the human journey. From the origins of war to the psychology of love, each topic brings fresh insights into perennial questions about our self-understanding.
Support: Patreon.com/OnHumans
Articles: OnHumans.Substack.com
Focus areas: Anthropology, Psychology, Archaeology, Philosophy, Big History
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Jun 12, 2024 • 36min
The Birth of Modern Prosperity, Part III: Power to the People (with Daron Acemoglu)
The Industrial Revolution did not create modern prosperity. Indeed, the British workers saw little or no improvements in their wages between 1750 and 1850. They did, however, experience ever-worsening working conditions. Then things changed. Britain became a democracy. And with democracy, the economy changed, too.Or so argues Daron Acemoglu, one of the most influential economists alive. You can either listen to the episode here, or read some highlights and commentary at Onhumans.Substack.com/ANNOUNCEMENTI'm writing a book! It is about the history of humans, for readers of all ages. Do you want access to early drafts? Become a member on Patreon.com/OnHumans

Jun 4, 2024 • 35min
The Birth of Modern Prosperity, Part II: Laboratories of the New Era (with Brad DeLong)
For millenia, patriarchy, population growth, and extractive elites made the world a bleak place for most humans. But there are good news, too: everything changed around 1870. And the changed happened due to the taming of the genius of people like Nikolai Tesla. So runs the argument my guest today, Brad DeLong. I will let him explain it to you. You can either listen to the episode here, or read some highlights and commentary at Onhumans.Substack.com/ANNOUNCEMENTI'm writing a book! It is about the history of humans, for readers of all ages. Do you want access to early drafts? Become a member on Patreon.com/OnHumans

May 28, 2024 • 30min
The Birth of Modern Prosperity, Part I: The Shape of the Story (with Oded Galor)
We live longer and grow taller than ever before. We are healthier and wealthier. Our ancestors could hardly have imagined a life of such prosperity. A future archaeologist would be equally puzzled. How did we become so rich so fast? What changes could have been so dramatic as to literally change the height of our species? Our modern prosperity is not the outcome of slow and steady progress. For most of human history, there was no upward trend in the health and wealth of the average human. The big events of history rarely changed the life of the local farmer.So what changed?"The Birth of Modern Prosperity" is a four-part series exploring the recent revolution in the human condition. The series is composed of curated highlights from interviews with leading economic historians. Each episode introduces one leading theory about the origins of our modern experience. While doing so, they offer fresh answers to many old questions, such as: Is technological innovation a force for good? Did the Industrial Revolution benefit the masses? Is the world more or less equal than before?The series will explore these topics from four angles: Education, Family, & Colonialism (with Oded Galor) Inventors & Engineers (with Brad DeLong) Democracy & Labour (with Daron Acemoglu) Equality & Inequality (with Branko Milanovic) Today's episode is part 1 with Oded Galor, author ofThe Journey of Humanity: Origins of Wealth and Inequality. The original episodes are numbers 12 and 13. We discuss: The long arch of human history Why improvements in technology have rarely benefitted the masses Why this changed around the 1870s. The virtuous cycle of technology, education, and prosperity We also compare the economic history of Britain and India to shed light on how colonialism has enforced age-old obstacles to prosperity. ANNOUNCEMENTI'm writing a book! It is about the history of humans, for readers of all ages. Do you want access to early drafts? Become a member on Patreon.com/OnHumansMORE LINKSWant to support the show? Head to Patreon.com/OnHumansWant to read and not just listen? Get the newsletter on OnHumans.Substack.com

May 8, 2024 • 59min
Mothers, Fathers, And The Many Myths We Have Held ~ Sarah Blaffer Hrdy
Over half a century, Sarah Blaffer Hrdy has challenged many of our myths about parenting, attachment, and "human nature". In this conversation, we dive into her remarkable career, culminating in her new book, Father Time.[You can now order Father Time via Amazon or Princeton Uni Press]We discuss a variety of topics, from hunter-gatherer parenting to the limitations of comparing humans to chimpanzees. We also discuss "allomothers", attachment theory, and the tragedy of infanticide. We finish with a discussion on the remarkable social changes in fatherhood and the neuroscience that has enabled it. As always, we finish with Hrdy’s reflections on humanity.Timestamps(04:15) Myths(10:10) Attachment Theory (20:50) Hunter-Gatherers(24:30) Modern Parenting (26:00) Infanticide (34:00) Monkey parenting (in South America)(36:10) Why we share (40:00) Husbands, grannies, or aunties?(43:10) Father BrainsANNOUNCEMENTI'm writing a book! It is about the history of humans, for readers of all ages. Do you want access to early drafts? Become a member on Patreon.com/OnHumansLINKSWant to support the show? Checkout Patreon.com/OnHumansWant to read and not just listen? Get the newsletter on OnHumans.Substack.comMENTIONSTerms: allomothers, mobile hunter-gatherers (i.e. immediate return foragers), matrilineal and patrilineal kinNames: Edward O. Wilson, Robert Trivers, John Bowlby, John Watson, Charles Darwin, Mary Ainsworth, Melvin Konner, Barry Hewlett, Nikhil Chaudhary (#34), Nancy Howell, Martin Daly, Margot Wilson, Amanda Reese, Judith Burkart, Carl Von Schaik, Alessandra Cassar, Ivan Jablonka, Kristen Hawkes (#6), Ruth Feldman (#3), Richard Lee

Apr 16, 2024 • 48min
Did Humans Evolve In Small Groups? ~ Cecilia Padilla-Iglesias
Modern cities are unique. Never before have so many people lived so close to each other. But just how unique is our modern cosmopolitanism?Completely unique, says a traditional theory. Humans evolved in tiny groups. These groups were not only smaller than modern cities. They were smaller than medieval towns. Indeed, hunter-gatherers often move in bands of 25 people or so. These bands might draw people from a "meta-group" of 150 people — but not more. And so, 150 people is the "maxiimum" group size natural for humans. Or so the theory goes.My guest today thinks that this is wrong. Cecilia Padilla-Iglesias is an evolutionary ecologist who studies hunter-gatherer societies. And her work points to a very different conclusion. Yes, hunter-gatherers spend much of their time in small bands. But these bands can form much larger groups of connections, extending further and further away, even to areas with different languages. Even in the rainforest, cosmopolitanism is the norm. So what do hunter-gatherer societies look like? And are they really good models of our deep past? We discuss these and other topics in this episode, touching upon topics such as:(04:00) Living with hunter-gatherers(10:30) Fluid societies (14:20) Dunbar’s mistake (17:20) Dawkins’ mistake(21:20) Ancient DNA of hunter-gatherers(23:20) What made H. Sapiens special? (25:40) Mobility, diversity, and technology(28:20) Sympathy and xenophobia(34:00) Ancient DNA (again)(41:30) Jungle cosmopolitanism(43:40) Was agriculture a mistake?As always, we end with my guest's reflections on humanity.LINKSWant to support the show? Checkout Patreon.com/OnHumansWant to read and not just listen? Get the newsletter on OnHumans.Substack.comMENTIONSNames: Richard Dawkins, Kim Hill, David Reich, Andrea MiglianoBooks: God Delusion (Dawkins), Who We Are And How We Got Here (Reich), The Human Swarm (Moffett)Ethnic groups: Bayaka (Congo), Hadza (Tanzania), Ache (Paraguay), Agta (Philippines)Articles: For links to articles, see OnHumans.Substack.com/p/Links-for-Episode-39-Hunter-Gatherer

Mar 25, 2024 • 1h 18min
Can We Understand Infinity? ~ Adrian Moore
Infinity is a puzzling idea. Even young children ponder its various manifestations: What is the biggest number? Does the universe have an edge? Does time have a beginning?Philosophers have tried to answer these questions since time immemorial. More recently, they have been joined by scientists and mathematicians. So what have we learned? Can we finally understand infinity? And what has this quest taught us about ourselves? To explore this topic, I am joined by philosopher Adrian W. Moore. Professor Moore is a special guest for two reasons. First, he is a world expert on infinity, known for an excellent BBC series, "History of the Infinite". More personally, he is the head tutor of Philosophy at St Hugh’s College, Oxford, where I studied my BA in Philosophy and Psychology. It has now been ten years since Prof Moore interviewed me and, for whatever reason, accepted me as a student. I feel honoured to mark the occasion with this episode.In this episode, we discuss:(02:35) Why infinity fascinates(12:20) Greeks on infinity(20:05) A finite cosmos? (25:00) Zeno’s paradoxes(32:35) Answering Zeno(42:35) Measuring infinities? Georg Cantor(54:05) Infinity vs human understanding(66:20) Mystics on infinityAs always, we finish with Prof Moore’s reflections on humanity.LINKSWant to support the show? Checkout Patreon.com/OnHumansWant to read and not just listen? Get the newsletter on OnHumans.Substack.comMENTIONSNames: Aristotle; Zeno; Archytus; Ludwig Wittgenstein; Kurt Gödel; Alan Turing; Georg Cantor; William Blake; Immanuel Kant Terms: Pythagoreans; Zeno’s paradoxes; calculus; transfinite arithmetic; counting numbers, i.e. positive integers; absolute infinities, or inconsistent totalitiesBooks: The Infinite (Moore) Other scholarship: For games on infinite boards, see e.g. the work of Davide Leonessi: https://leonessi.org/

Mar 12, 2024 • 1h 10min
How Did Humans Evolve? Why Did We? ~ Ian Tattersall
Why are we furless? Why do we cook our food and use spoken language? And how does climate change, sashimi, or the banks of Central America relate to human origins? Human evolution is a deeply puzzling topic. But behind this dense mist lies many keys to our self-understanding. To guide us through the foggy territory, I am joined by Dr Ian Tattersall, a curator emeritus at the American Museum of Natural History (New York). In this episode, Dr Tattersall and I discuss:(04.00) An ancient climate change(07:20) First humans(11:20) Fire(17:50) Fish(21:40) Rocks(24:00) Evolution vs Innovation(25:30) Brain growth (36:10) Children (39:50) Language(48:20) Why?As always, we finish with Dr Tattersall's reflections on humanity.LINKSWant to support the show? Checkout Patreon.com/OnHumansWant to read and not just listen? Get the newsletter on OnHumans.Substack.comMENTIONSNames: Richard Wrangham (see ep. 21), Susan Schaller, Ildefonso, Jane Goodall, Sarah Blaffer Hrdy, Yuval Noah Harari Books: Masters of the Planet (Tattersall), Man Without Words (Schaller), Sapiens (Harari)Technical terms: Oldowan tool culture (first stone tools, c. 2.5 million years ago), Acheulean hand axe (first major update in stone tools, c. 1.6 million years ago)Fossils: Lucy (3.2 million years old); Turkana Boy (aka. Nariokotome Boy, 1.6 million years old)Hominin species: Australopithecines, Homo ergaster, Homo erectus, Homo heidelbergensis, Homo neanderthalensis, Homo sapiens A note on hominin taxonomy: Homo habilis was traditionally considered the first human and the first maker of stone tools. Dr Tattersall is among the many critics of this old idea. According to him and many others, there is no separate tool-making species called Homo habilis. Rather, Australopithecines started making stone tools without any change in the biology of the species. Also, it is worth noting that Dr Tattersall rejects the traditional view which gives a big role for Homo erectus in the human story. In this traditional view, Turkana Boy’s species, Homo ergaster, is called an African Homo erectus. Dr Tattersall and many others argue that this is a historic hangover with little basis in the biological evidence.

Feb 14, 2024 • 55min
How Did Consciousness Evolve? Did It? ~ Eva Jablonka
In this enlightening discussion, Eva Jablonka, an eminent evolutionary biologist known for her work on epigenetic inheritance, delves into the evolution of consciousness. She explores the definition of consciousness and its links to evolution. The conversation raises questions about animal consciousness and the implications for AI. Jablonka highlights the complexity of conscious experiences across species, particularly during pivotal moments like the Cambrian explosion, and discusses the future challenges for consciousness in the age of technology.

Feb 1, 2024 • 39min
Why Do We Love? ~ Arthur Aron
Why do we love? What brings us together? How to heal ethnic hatred? According to my guest, the answer to all these questions lies in the human desire to grow ourselves through connecting with others. Arthur Aron is a psychologist who studies human bonding in all its forms. A pioneer in the field, he has studied topics from connecting with strangers to maintaining romance in life-long marriages. And many of his findings are ultimately hopeful. In this conversation, we discuss topics such as:(4:30) Why we love (12:50) Tools to cultivate love (24:30) Friendships with the ethnic "other” (31:30) Are we naturally xenophobic?MENTIONSNames: Elaine Aron, Helen Fisher, Stephen WrightArticles: For links to videos, articles, and the 36 Questions, see https://onhumans.substack.com/p/links-for-episode-35MORE LINKS Read the On Humans newsletter at OnHumans.Substack.com Support On Humans at Patreon.com/OnHumans

Jan 23, 2024 • 14min
Mental Health Bonus | The Origins of ADHD, Anxiety, and Depression ~ Nikhil Chaudhary
Can evolution shed light on our mental health?
Nikhil Chaudhary thinks so. He is an anthropologist at the University of Cambridge who specialises in the links between evolution and psychiatry. In this clip, Dr Chaudhary explores the evolutionary origins of ADHD, depression, and anxiety.
For our longer conversation on parenting and family life, see episode 34 of the On Humans Podcast.