Suffering, Wayfaring & Hope with Curt Thompson and Warren KinghornAnxiety, depression, and other mental health challenges are surging among both young and old. By some estimates, more than one in five American adults struggle with some form of mental illness each year. There are few untouched – either directly or through loved ones – with the suffering that attends such struggles. What does faith offer those in the midst of such challenges?Warren Kinghorn and Curt Thompson, both practicing Christian psychiatrists, join our podcast to help explore these questions. Warren’s book, Wayfaring: A Christian Approach to Mental Health Care, draws from the theology of Thomas Aquinas as well as the science of today. Curt’s latest book, The Deepest Place: Suffering and the Formation of Hope, draws from the Apostle Paul’s experience to show us how we can flourish in the midst of suffering. Together, they help us to reframe our understanding of mental health care from fixing machines to accompanying fellow wayfarers on the way to the Lord’s feast:“There's a lot of really good things about thinking about mental health care as a process of careful work to reduce symptoms. But what are we missing?“I think some of what we're missing are the stories that people bring in and the stories, not just of individuals, but of communities and cultures…Maybe they're not just internal problems where something's broken and needs to be fixed, but maybe we need to think about it in a broader and more holistic context.”- Warren KinghornWe trust this podcast will give you new language, compassion, and tools to address mental health challenges, and to wayfare alongside loved ones who may also be struggling.This podcast is an edited version of our Online Conversation recorded in January, 2025. You can access the full conversation with transcript here.Learn more about Warren Kinghorn and Curt Thompson.Episode Outline0:00 Introduction: The Mental Health Crisis00:51 Meet the Experts: Curt Thompson and Warren Kinghorn03:58 The Power of Stories in Mental Health07:13 Reframing Mental Health: From Machines to Wayfarers15:55 The Role of Community in Healing35:50 Q&A: Addressing Shame, Community, and Healing55:36 The Last Word from Warren Kinghorn and Curt ThompsonAuthors and books mentioned in the conversation: The Deepest Place, by Curt ThompsonWayfaring, by Warren KinghornSt. Thomas Aquinas Anatomy of the Soul, by Curt ThompsonThe Soul of Shame, by Curt ThompsonThe Soul of Desire: Discovering the Neuroscience of Longing, Beauty, and Community, by Curt ThompsonThompsonWendell BerryJohn C. PolanyiJulianne Holt-LunstadRelated Trinity Forum Readings:On Happiness, St. Thomas AquinasMan's Search for Meaning, by Viktor Frankl,Confessions, by St. Augustine The Long Loneliness, by Dorothy DayPilgrim's Progress, by John BunyanPilgrim at Tinker Creek, by Annie DillardRelated Conversations:The Soul of Desire with Curt ThompsonHope and Healing in Hard Times with Curt ThompsonTo listen to this or any of our episodes in full, visit ttf.org/podcast and to join the Trinity Forum Society and help make content like this possible, join the Trinity Forum SocietySpecial thanks to Ned Bustard for our podcast artwork.