
Real Wealth Show: Real Estate Investing Podcast
Smart real estate investing will give you the time and the money to live life on your own terms! We call that real wealth. Host Kathy Fettke is Co-CEO of Real Wealth Network, author of the best selling “Retire Rich with Rentals” and the host of companion podcast, Real Estate News for Investors.
Kathy Fettke launched this podcast in 2003 to share her own secrets and those of top experts in the real estate investing field. She along with guests like Robert Kiyosaki, Peter Schiff, Doug Duncan, John Burns, Bruce Norris & other rising real estate stars offer insights on the creation of passive income through real estate, and how to avoid costly mistakes.
Learn how to build a portfolio outside the stock market with buy-and-hold strategies, single-family rentals, multi-family properties, syndicated deals, self-directed IRAs and 401ks, the highly-revered 1031 exchange, private money lending, creative financing, and much more in this podcast! Whether you’re on the go, listening in your ca...
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Jul 3, 2025 • 26min
Encore: How to Go Beyond the 10 Loan Limit
This show originally aired in November of 2024.
If you’ve already bought your first investment property, you may recall the initial fear you had about managing it. And that was just one property. But many investors find out it’s not that tricky, and quickly scale up once they’ve completed their first deal. It can become addicting to feel the success of multiple deals that help you create financial independence.
We’re reposting an amazing and inspiring interview from someone who has done just that! Elaine Stageberg met her Fannie/Freddie 10-loan limit but figured out how to get financing for many more properties. She now owns more than 200 single-family rentals with her husband Nick, and other properties as joint ventures or within privately equity funds. Find out how she did it in this interview!
And when you’re done hearing about Elaine's success, check out our new audio book “Scaling Smart: How to Design a Self-Managing Business.” We share several success stories, including Elaine's, that can help you grow your own business. My husband Rich and I co-authored the book based on our more than 20 years of experience building our real estate investing company RealWealth.
Elaine is a psychiatrist, a mother of four, and the owner of a private equity firm. She reached financial freedom at age 30, and currently manages a portfolio of over one-thousand doors worth more than $300 million. She lives in Rochester, Minnesota, with her husband and four young children.
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Jul 2, 2025 • 31min
Unlocking Home Equity: HELOCs and All-in-One Loans Explained with Caeli Ridge
In this episode of Real Estate News for Investors, we’re joined by lending expert Caeli Ridge to unpack two powerful tools for real estate investors: HELOCs (Home Equity Lines of Credit) and the increasingly popular All-in-One Loan.
Caeli breaks down how each product works, when and why investors are turning to them in today’s high-rate environment, and how they differ from cash out refis and fixed mortgages. Learn how savvy investors are using HELOCs to scale their portfolios, how the All-in-One Loan merges banking and borrowing into one streamlined account, and what to watch out for with variable interest rates.
If you’re looking to unlock equity without selling your property, this episode is for you.
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Jun 27, 2025 • 21min
The Investor’s Guide to Landlord Insurance, Co-Insurance, and Insuring Against Extreme Weather
Seth Markum, an insurance expert from NREIG, shares valuable insights on the crucial role of insurance in real estate investing. He discusses the essential differences between landlord and homeowner insurance, emphasizing the unique risks rental properties face. Markum dives into the challenges of insuring against extreme weather events and the need for named storm insurance, especially for vulnerable areas like Florida. He also explains innovative solutions like parametric underwriting to tackle traditional coverage shortcomings. Perfect for property investors navigating today's climate!

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Jun 25, 2025 • 14min
Top Real Estate Markets for Cash Flow in 2025
Leah Collich, a RealWealth Investment Counselor, becomes your guide to navigating the dynamic world of real estate investing. She reveals why savvy investors are flocking to linear markets like Cleveland and Chattanooga for reliable cash flow. Leah discusses the effects of rising interest rates and shifting strategies in the current economy. She also highlights Atlanta's burgeoning market, known for its strong population growth and rental demand. Tune in for tips on optimizing your investment strategy amidst economic uncertainties.

Jun 24, 2025 • 18min
How Real Estate Pros Vet Syndication Deals (Step-by-Step)
Thinking about investing in real estate syndications but not sure how to properly evaluate a deal? In this episode of The Real Wealth Show, Leah Collich sits down with RealWealth Syndication Manager Paul DiVincenzo to walk through the exact underwriting process our team uses to vet multifamily and commercial real estate investments. Whether you're a first-time passive investor or looking to sharpen your due diligence process, this episode will give you the tools to confidently analyze real estate syndication opportunities.
📌 Topics Covered:
What a syndication is
How much a investor should know about each asset class -How to vet a real estate syndication deal
Behind-the-scenes of RealWealth’s deal evaluation proces
🎯 Ideal for passive investors, real estate syndication beginners, and experienced investors looking to improve their underwriting skills.
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Retire Rich with Rentals by Kathy Fettke: https://tinyurl.com/retirerichwithrentals
Scaling Smart by Rich & Kathy Fettke: https://tinyurl.com/scalingsmart
TOPICS DISCUSSED
00:00 Introduction
01:02 Paul DiVincenzo, Syndication Manager
01:59 What is a Syndication?
03:01 RealWealth Developments
03:54 Why Syndications
05:46 How Much Should an Investor Know?
07:20 Step by Step Vetting Process
11:33 How RealWealth Selects Deals
13:34 Previous Market Cycle and Syndications
14:50 New Projects
16:52 More Information on Realwealth.com
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The views and opinions expressed in this podcast are provided for informational purposes only, and should not be construed as an offer to buy or sell any securities or to make or consider any investment or course of action. For more information, go to www.RealWealthShow.com

Jun 20, 2025 • 32min
What's REALLY Happening in the Housing Market with Ken and Danielle McElroy
In this episode of The Real Wealth Show, we’re joined by two powerhouse investors—Ken and Danielle McElroy—for an honest look at what’s really happening in today’s real estate market. From single-family homes to multifamily apartment buildings, the McElroys break down key trends, rising risks, and the opportunities they’re seeing right now.
Ken, a seasoned multifamily investor and author, shares what’s changed in the market over the past year—and why he’s adjusting his strategy. Danielle offers insight on single family and what trends she is monitoring
Whether you’re a new investor or managing a growing portfolio, this conversation will give you a clearer view of where the market is headed—and what moves to consider next.
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FREE RealWealth® EDUCATION & TOOLS
RealWealth Market Reports: https://realwealth.com/learn/best-places-to-buy-rental-property/
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RealWealth Assessment™: https://realwealth.com/assessment/
RealWealth® Webinars: https://realwealth.com/webinars/
READ BOOKS BY RealWealth® FOUNDERS
The Wise Investor by Rich Fettke: https://tinyurl.com/thewiseinvestorbook
Retire Rich with Rentals by Kathy Fettke: https://tinyurl.com/retirerichwithrentals
Scaling Smart by Rich & Kathy Fettke: https://tinyurl.com/scalingsmart
DISCLAIMER
The views and opinions expressed in this podcast are provided for informational purposes only, and should not be construed as an offer to buy or sell any securities or to make or consider any investment or course of action. For more information, go to www.RealWealthShow.com

Jun 18, 2025 • 36min
The Rise, Fall, and Rise Again of Real Estate Wholesaler Jamil Damji
Today on The Real Wealth Show, we’re joined by Jamil Damji—real estate wholesaler, co-founder of KeyGlee, and star of A&E’s Triple Digit Flip. Jamil opens up about his incredible journey: how he got started in real estate, lost everything chasing the wrong opportunities, and came back stronger to build a multimillion dollar wholesaling business.
We dive into the early wins, the painful mistakes, and the mindset shifts that helped Jamil not only recover—but thrive. He also shares why he believes now is the time to organize the industry through a National Wholesalers Association, and how that could shape the future of real estate investing.
🎁 Bonus: Download free chapters of Kathy’s book Retire Rich with Rentals at RealWealth.com/RetireRich
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FREE RealWealth® EDUCATION & TOOLS
RealWealth Market Reports: https://realwealth.com/learn/best-places-to-buy-rental-property/
RealWealth Videos: https://realwealth.com/category/video/
RealWealth Assessment™: https://realwealth.com/assessment/
RealWealth® Webinars: https://realwealth.com/webinars/
READ BOOKS BY RealWealth® FOUNDERS
The Wise Investor by Rich Fettke: https://tinyurl.com/thewiseinvestorbook
Retire Rich with Rentals by Kathy Fettke: https://tinyurl.com/retirerichwithrentals
Scaling Smart by Rich & Kathy Fettke: https://tinyurl.com/scalingsmart
DISCLAIMER
The views and opinions expressed in this podcast are provided for informational purposes only, and should not be construed as an offer to buy or sell any securities or to make or consider any investment or course of action. For more information, go to www.RealWealthShow.com

Jun 13, 2025 • 29min
Why I Almost Sold My Rental (and Why I’m Glad I Didn’t) with Celia Christensen
When things got tough with her rental property, Celia Christensen—Real Wealth’s own Marketing and Events Manager—seriously considered selling. In this episode of The Real Wealth Show, she shares her real estate investing journey: from buying her first property through the Real Wealth to the challenges that nearly pushed her to walk away. You’ll hear what convinced her to hold on, how the property is performing now, and what she’s learned about long-term real estate investing. If you’re a first-time investor—or thinking about giving up on a property—you won’t want to miss this one.
💡 Want help getting started? Schedule your free strategy session at www.RealWealth.com/schedule.
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FREE RealWealth® EDUCATION & TOOLS
RealWealth Market Reports: https://realwealth.com/learn/best-places-to-buy-rental-property/
RealWealth Videos: https://realwealth.com/category/video/
RealWealth Assessment™: https://realwealth.com/assessment/
RealWealth® Webinars: https://realwealth.com/webinars/
READ BOOKS BY RealWealth® FOUNDERS
The Wise Investor by Rich Fettke: https://tinyurl.com/thewiseinvestorbook
Retire Rich with Rentals by Kathy Fettke: https://tinyurl.com/retirerichwithrentals
Scaling Smart by Rich & Kathy Fettke: https://tinyurl.com/scalingsmart
DISCLAIMER
The views and opinions expressed in this podcast are provided for informational purposes only, and should not be construed as an offer to buy or sell any securities or to make or consider any investment or course of action. For more information, go to www.RealWealthShow.com

Jun 10, 2025 • 17min
How to Use Your Retirement Accounts to Invest in Real Estate
Wondering how to use your retirement accounts to invest in real estate? In this episode of The Real Wealth Show, Kathy Fettke sits down with Real Wealth investment counselors Leah Collich and Stacey Stenenga to explain how investors can tap into IRAs, 401(k)s, and other retirement vehicles to build a real estate portfolio. Discover the rules, benefits, and common pitfalls of using self-directed retirement accounts—and how to get started the right way. Whether you're planning for retirement or looking to diversify your investments, this episode offers clear, actionable insights to grow your wealth through real estate.
👉 Schedule your free session at www.RealWealth.com/Schedule
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The Real Wealth Show: Real Estate Investing Podcast https://link.chtbl.com/RWS
Real Estate News: Real Estate Investing Podcast: https://link.chtbl.com/REN
FREE RealWealth® EDUCATION & TOOLS
RealWealth Market Reports: https://realwealth.com/learn/best-places-to-buy-rental-property/
RealWealth Videos: https://realwealth.com/category/video/
RealWealth Assessment™: https://realwealth.com/assessment/
RealWealth® Webinars: https://realwealth.com/webinars/
READ BOOKS BY RealWealth® FOUNDERS
The Wise Investor by Rich Fettke: https://tinyurl.com/thewiseinvestorbook
Retire Rich with Rentals by Kathy Fettke: https://tinyurl.com/retirerichwithrentals
Scaling Smart by Rich & Kathy Fettke: https://tinyurl.com/scalingsmart
DISCLAIMER
The views and opinions expressed in this podcast are provided for informational purposes only, and should not be construed as an offer to buy or sell any securities or to make or consider any investment or course of action. For more information, go to www.RealWealthShow.com

Jun 5, 2025 • 29min
How to Get Your Next Rental Property This Year: RealWealth Strategy Session
Thinking about buying a rental property but don’t know where to start? In this episode of The Real Wealth Show, host Kathy Fettke sits down with Real Wealth investment counselors Leah Collich and Stacey Stegenga to share how a free strategy session can help you buy your next rental property with confidence. Whether you're a first-time investor or looking to grow your portfolio, learn how to identify the best markets, property types, and strategies for your goals.
👉 Schedule your free session at www.RealWealth.com/Schedule
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The Real Wealth Show: Real Estate Investing Podcast https://link.chtbl.com/RWS
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FREE RealWealth® EDUCATION & TOOLS
RealWealth Market Reports: https://realwealth.com/learn/best-places-to-buy-rental-property/
RealWealth Videos: https://realwealth.com/category/video/
RealWealth Assessment™: https://realwealth.com/assessment/
RealWealth® Webinars: https://realwealth.com/webinars/
READ BOOKS BY RealWealth® FOUNDERS
The Wise Investor by Rich Fettke: https://tinyurl.com/thewiseinvestorbook
Retire Rich with Rentals by Kathy Fettke: https://tinyurl.com/retirerichwithrentals
Scaling Smart by Rich & Kathy Fettke: https://tinyurl.com/scalingsmart
DISCLAIMER
The views and opinions expressed in this podcast are provided for informational purposes only, and should not be construed as an offer to buy or sell any securities or to make or consider any investment or course of action. For more information, go to www.RealWealthShow.com