The Pakistan Experience

The Pakistan Experience is an independently produced podcast looking to tell stories about Pakistan through conversations. Please consider supporting us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thepakistanexperience To support the channel: Jazzcash/Easypaisa - 0325 -2982912 Patreon.com/thepakistanexperience And Please stay in touch: https://twitter.com/ThePakistanExp1https://www.facebook.com/thepakistanexperiencehttps://instagram.com/thepakistanexpeperience The podcast is hosted by comedian and writer, Shehzad Ghias Shaikh. Shehzad is a Fulbright scholar with a Masters in Theatre from Brooklyn College. He is also one of the foremost Stand-up comedians in Pakistan and frequently writes for numerous publications. Instagram.com/shehzadghiasshaikh Facebook.com/Shehzadghias/ Twitter.com/shehzad89 Chapters: 0:00 Introduction 1:15 NFP’s new book, Imran Khan & his parallels with ZA Bhutto 09:29 The urban middle class, the voter split of Punjab, and Maududi’s political Islam 25:10 Democracy & Islam, Allama Iqbal, Maududi and political Ideologues 35:40 “Riyasat e Madina”, is there a major vote bank for religious parties?, the startof the military’s religiosity and Zia’s violence 51:26 the liberal elite, the left & reactionaries, double standards about protests 1:02:04 PTI’s protests and their false sense of security, Imran Khan’s political future and PTI’s hubris 1:17:25 Imran Riaz Khan’s arrest, projecting dreams onto reality, Cuba and his experience with communist movements 1:25:38 Myth of PTI bringing political awareness, how IK got popular and filling a void, IK’s colonial Pashtoon identity 1:42:55 PTI’s propaganda and bullying campaigns, disappearances of party leaders, and attacking feminists and liberals 1:52:58 Teflon Khan, PTI from invincibility to vulnerability, empty Zaman Park and virtue signaling 2:04:40 the Islamic voter, Salman Ahmed and Sufism, Malik Riaz and everyone in bed with the elite 2:13:52 Imran as a father figure and IK’s cricket career 2:17:29 Audience Questions

Laurent Gayer comes on the Pakistan Experience to discuss his book, "Karachi: Ordered Disorder and the Struggle for the City", Student Politics, MQM, PPP, JI, Altaf Hussain, PTM, Benazir's Assassination, Delhi and Paris. Laurent Gayer is Senior Research Fellow at the Center for International Studies (CERI-Sciences Po), Paris. For the past twenty years, he has been investigating urban transformations, social struggles and political conflicts in Karachi. His main publications include Karachi: Ordered Disorder and the Struggle for the City (Hurst, 2014), and the forthcoming Gunpoint Capitalism: Enforcing Corporate Order in Karachi (Hurst, 2024) The Pakistan Experience is an independently produced podcast looking to tell stories about Pakistan through conversations. Please consider supporting us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thepakistanexperience To support the channel: Jazzcash/Easypaisa - 0325 -2982912 Patreon.com/thepakistanexperience And Please stay in touch: https://twitter.com/ThePakistanExp1https://www.facebook.com/thepakistanexperiencehttps://instagram.com/thepakistanexpeperience The podcast is hosted by comedian and writer, Shehzad Ghias Shaikh. Shehzad is a Fulbright scholar with a Masters in Theatre from Brooklyn College. He is also one of the foremost Stand-up comedians in Pakistan and frequently writes for numerous publications. Instagram.com/shehzadghiasshaikh Facebook.com/Shehzadghias/ Twitter.com/shehzad89 Chapters 0:00 Introduction 2:30 Finding order in Karachi’s chaos, MQM and military involvement 13:20 Student politics and Jamat e Islami, history of the region and who wrote it, creation of the muhajir identity 30:03 Using autobiographies as a source, Karachi’s motorcycle culture, conspiracy theories, Altaf Hussain and Punjab 40:07 Economic anxiety & pashtoon-muhajir conflict, partition and its impact on Karachi 51:17 the good old times, and protests in France compared to Karachi 1:04:05 PTM, Aurat March and impacts of social mobilization, global protest dynamics, anti military consciousness in Karachi 1:11:26 Benazir’s assassination and its impact on the city; is the PPP a mafia? 1:19:47 Karachi’s divisions & cantonments, local governments, the new corporate elite & sweatshops 1:30:36 Blatant protection from the courts and whether Delhi is the most segregated city and BJP changing India 1:43:33 Audience Questions

All sides of the Al Qadir Trust case, and the context of Corruption, Imran Khan's tenure and this case. The Pakistan Experience is an independently produced podcast looking to tell stories about Pakistan through conversations. Please consider supporting us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thepakistanexperience To support the channel: Jazzcash/Easypaisa - 0325 -2982912 Patreon.com/thepakistanexperience And Please stay in touch: https://twitter.com/ThePakistanExp1https://www.facebook.com/thepakistanexperiencehttps://instagram.com/thepakistanexpeperience The podcast is hosted by comedian and writer, Shehzad Ghias Shaikh. Shehzad is a Fulbright scholar with a Masters in Theatre from Brooklyn College. He is also one of the foremost Stand-up comedians in Pakistan and frequently writes for numerous publications. Instagram.com/shehzadghiasshaikh Facebook.com/Shehzadghias/ Twitter.com/shehzad89 Chapters: 0:00 Introduction 2:40 What is Corruption? 8:00 Malik Riaz’s Dealings in London 12:40 What is the Al Qadir Trust Case? 18:50 Imran Khan’s Involvement 23:50 Selective Justice 34:00 Civil Society needs to oppose Military Courts for PTI

Mahenaz Mahmud comes on podcast for our Mothers Day Special.Mahenaz Mahmud comes on the podcast to discuss early childhood Education, Sabeen Mahmud's legacy, T2F and how to raise children.Mahenaz Mahmud Sabeen’s mother, Mahenaz, has worked with children and adults since 1979, teaching, developing curricula and learning resources in urban and rural Pakistan. She initiated innovative Early Years projects, research and advocacy in the public and private sectors resulting in Pakistan’s first National ECE Curriculum in collaboration with the Ministry of Education. Currently, as Academic Advisor, PECHS Girls’ School, one of her favourite roles is to provide a safe space for students to come and talk through their social, emotional and academic difficulties. The Pakistan Experience is an independently produced podcast looking to tell stories about Pakistan through conversations. Please consider supporting us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thepakistanexperience To support the channel: Jazzcash/Easypaisa - 0325 -2982912 Patreon.com/thepakistanexperience And Please stay in touch: https://twitter.com/ThePakistanExp1https://www.facebook.com/thepakistanexperiencehttps://instagram.com/thepakistanexpeperience The podcast is hosted by comedian and writer, Shehzad Ghias Shaikh. Shehzad is a Fulbright scholar with a Masters in Theatre from Brooklyn College. He is also one of the foremost Stand-up comedians in Pakistan and frequently writes for numerous publications. Instagram.com/shehzadghiasshaikh Facebook.com/Shehzadghias/ Twitter.com/shehzad89 Chapters: 0:00 Introduction 02:56 Identity formation and her Bengali roots, class barriers and being a good person, being privilege conscious and appreciating Karachi 12:05 Gandhi’s anti colonial philosophy & her grandparents, increasing markers of religious identity, and inter-country harmony 18:59 Dhaka & 1971, facing discrimination, Karachi in the 70s, changes under Zia and spreading hate, and the fear narrative 31:00 Women in public, internalized patriarchy, parenting a girl and striking a balance, banning school bells and managing students 43:32 Teaching at elite schools, Sabeen’s early schooling, writing a manual for student learning 53:15 Holistic learning and critical thinking, Sabeen and T2F’s impact 1:02:45 Sabeen and her ambitious goals, doing good work, building a community and T2F 1:11:53 Sabeen’ legacy, Sabeen Mehmud Foundation and how to raise a Sabeen 1:23:39 Middle-class aspirations, dealing with trolls and details about Sabeen’s killer and dealing with the loss 1:38:51 Q&A

Tamkenat Mansoor, Syed Muzammil Shah, Ali Aftab Saeed, Mariam Shafqat Goraya, and Sajeer Shaikh, join us for a special live stream celebrating 100,000 subscribers! This is the return of Bachodiyan you have all been waiting for. The Pakistan Experience is an independently produced podcast looking to tell stories about Pakistan through conversations. Please consider supporting us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thepakistanex... To support the channel: Jazzcash/Easypaisa - 0325 -2982912 Patreon.com/thepakistanexperience And Please stay in touch: https://twitter.com/ThePakistanExp1https://www.facebook.com/thepakistane...https://instagram.com/thepakistanexpe... The podcast is hosted by comedian and writer, Shehzad Ghias Shaikh. Shehzad is a Fulbright scholar with a Masters in Theatre from Brooklyn College. He is also one of the foremost Stand-up comedians in Pakistan and frequently writes for numerous publications. Instagram.com/shehzadghiasshaikh Facebook.com/Shehzadghias/ Twitter.com/shehzad89

Aamir Mughal is a Former Intelligence officer from Directorate Intelligence Bureau , Government of Pakistan and a student of History, he actively archives the history of Pakistan on Twitter. Aamir Mughal comes on The Pakistan Experience for a tell all about the history of Pakistan, from Jinnah to Imran Khan, Aamir Mughal gets into the history of Jamaat-e-Islami, Politics, and military operations in Pakistan. The Pakistan Experience is an independently produced podcast looking to tell stories about Pakistan through conversations. Please consider supporting us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thepakistanexperience To support the channel: Jazzcash/Easypaisa - 0325 -2982912 Patreon.com/thepakistanexperience And Please stay in touch: https://twitter.com/ThePakistanExp1https://www.facebook.com/thepakistanexperiencehttps://instagram.com/thepakistanexpeperience The podcast is hosted by comedian and writer, Shehzad Ghias Shaikh. Shehzad is a Fulbright scholar with a Masters in Theatre from Brooklyn College. He is also one of the foremost Stand-up comedians in Pakistan and frequently writes for numerous publications. Instagram.com/shehzadghiasshaikh Facebook.com/Shehzadghias/ Twitter.com/shehzad89 Chapters: 0:00 intro 1:15 Aamir’s knack for history, joining the IB, Imran Khan, political Islam and its roots in Jinnah 20:16 forcing a Pakistani identity, dynastic politics, 1971 & Bangladesh 31:51 Islamic socialism, lawyers movement, Iftikhar Chaudhry, IK’s use of Islam and how Zia started it 40:18 addressing the original sim, who killed Zia, Benazir & the establishment and standing up against the military 54:49 US involvement & the Cold War, our own identity, Ardeshir Cowasjee and Twitter journalism 1:09:00 the pluralistic Karachi of old, recognizing own mistakes, IK’s constant compromises, and Musharraf 1:20:52 Hussain Haqqani, how censorship cannot work anymore, Charter of Democracy and how NAB is not needed 1:28:02 “Pakistan Khappay”, creating violence and PTI’s reaction to Imran’s arrest, establishment bating PTI and Tahir ul Qadri 1:40:15 Imran Khan’s relaunch as a move against democracy, judiciary intervening in governance, IK’s financial corruption and the media 1:50:54 The Herald, insides of journalism in Pak, TPE’s role in pushing the envelope and media not naming Malik Riaz 2:03:51 Audience Questions

This video was recorded before the Supreme Court declaring the arrest of Imran Khan illegal, they have still not declared the Arrest Warrant illegal so let's see what happens tomorrow but based on the leaked audio call of Imran Khan Lawyer's before the judgment today, they knew what the judgment will be and they also know they will get bail tomorrow.

Pakistan Lost is a series of audio essays on history exploring the choices that were made that impacted millions of people for decades to come. Episode 6 of the series looks at how the political class was destroyed in Pakistan to pave the way for dictatorships. Watch all the episodes of Pakistan Lost: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HVcorSr-vM&list=PLlQZ9NZnjq5qRLMfNjRNQyCTBkT0etuaZ

Imran Khan has been arrested; here is what happened, and why it happened. For details of the Malik Riaz case against Imran Khan and other cases of Corruption. Watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mq8psEQsjVg The Pakistan Experience is an independently produced podcast looking to tell stories about Pakistan through conversations. Please consider supporting us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thepakistanexperience To support the channel: Jazzcash/Easypaisa - 0325 -2982912 Patreon.com/thepakistanexperience And Please stay in touch: https://twitter.com/ThePakistanExp1https://www.facebook.com/thepakistanexperiencehttps://instagram.com/thepakistanexpeperience The podcast is hosted by comedian and writer, Shehzad Ghias Shaikh. Shehzad is a Fulbright scholar with a Masters in Theatre from Brooklyn College. He is also one of the foremost Stand-up comedians in Pakistan and frequently writes for numerous publications. Instagram.com/shehzadghiasshaikh Facebook.com/Shehzadghias/ Twitter.com/shehzad89

Kesava Menon comes on The Pakistan Experience to discuss his book, "Never Tell Them We Are The Same People: Notes on Pakistan" - on this episode we discuss the SCO, Indo-Pak Relations, the possibility of peace and friendship between the countries, and how India is changing. Kesava Menon is an analyst and writer on political affairs. He was The Hindu’s first Pakistan Correspondent, from July 1990 to October 1993. He was also the Editor of the Malayalam newspaper 'Mathrubhumi' for 8 years. The Pakistan Experience is an independently produced podcast looking to tell stories about Pakistan through conversations. Please consider supporting us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thepakistanexperience To support the channel: Jazzcash/Easypaisa - 0325 -2982912 Patreon.com/thepakistanexperience And Please stay in touch: https://twitter.com/ThePakistanExp1https://www.facebook.com/thepakistanexperiencehttps://instagram.com/thepakistanexpeperience The podcast is hosted by comedian and writer, Shehzad Ghias Shaikh. Shehzad is a Fulbright scholar with a Masters in Theatre from Brooklyn College. He is also one of the foremost Stand-up comedians in Pakistan and frequently writes for numerous publications. Instagram.com/shehzadghiasshaikh Facebook.com/Shehzadghias/ Twitter.com/shehzad89 Chapters: 0:00 Introduction and SCO 4:55 Vajpayee's visit to Pakistan 7:54 Modi's visit to Pakistan 9:30 Perceptions of Pakistan before coming 12:30 Experience of living in Pakistan 18:30 The Hindu and the Left 23:30 Land Reforms and Nehru's Legacy 26:50 India's Economic Strength and Aggression 29:00 India's importance in Pakistan's electoral politics 30:30 Establishment and Peace with India 32:30 Visiting Pakistan 1990-1993 41:00 Meeting Pakistani politicians 44:50 Takeaways from visiting Pakistan 47:00 Never tell them we are the same people 50:50 How is India changing 57:30 Can we be friends