
Outliers with Daniel Scrivner: Explore the Greatest Innovators, Founders, and Investors
Learn from history's greatest innovators, founders, and investors with a mix of interviews and summaries of the best books, essays, and lectures. Each week, Daniel Scrivner decodes the ideas, strategies, and frameworks used by the best innovators, founders, and investors. Past guests include Scott Belsky (Adobe), Gokul Rajaram (DoorDash), Kevin Kelly (WIRED), Sir Ronald Cohen (IMPACT), Erling Kagge (Everest Explorer), along with the founders of Wealthfront, Public.com, Primal Kitchen, 1-800-GOT-JUNK, Levels, and Eight Sleep. Visit OutlierAcademy.com for episode notes, searchable transcripts, videos, and more.
Outliers with Daniel Scrivner is a mix of Founders Podcast, How I Built This, Business Breakdowns, Invest Like The Best, Founder's Field Guide, 20VC (20 Minute VC), The Knowledge Project, What It Takes, and The Tim Ferriss Show.
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Jun 24, 2022 • 19min
#115 Milind Mehere of Yieldstreet: My Favorite Books, Tools, Habits and More | 20 Minute Playbook
In Episode #115, we deconstruct Milind Mehere's peak performance playbook—from their favorite book to the tiny habit that's had the biggest impact on their life. Milind Mehere is the Founder and CEO of Yieldstreet. We cover the ABCDE of building a company, the importance of gratitude, and the impact of blockchain on private markets.
“Be bright, be brief, be gone.” – Milind Mehere
EPISODE GUIDE (LINKS, QUOTES, NOTES, AND BOOKS MENTIONED)
https://www.danielscrivner.com/notes/milind-mehere-playbook
FULL TEXT TRANSCRIPT
https://www.danielscrivner.com/notes/milind-mehere-playbook-transcript/
CHAPTERS
In this episode, we deconstruct Milind Mehere’s peak performance playbook—from their favorite book to the tiny habit that's had the biggest impact on their life. In it we cover:
(00:00:00) – Introduction
(00:02:09) – The impact of blockchain on private markets
(00:03:16) – Adaptability as a superpower
(00:04:59) – Learning from mentors, both personal and public
(00:07:09) – Be bright, be brief, be gone.
(00:09:14) – The ABCDE of building a company
(00:12:19) – Leadership and Self-Deception, plus American Aristocracy
(00:13:49) – The importance of gratitude
ABOUT MILIND MEHERE
Milind Mehere is co-founder and CEO of Yieldstreet. Milind's background is fascinating. Before founding Yieldstreet in 2014, Milind founded and scaled several other companies, including Yodle, which he scaled to $220 million in annual revenue before being acquired by web.com. Over the last eight years, Yieldstreet has built one of the largest private investment platforms in the world. To date, they brought on over 377,000 members that have invested more than $1.5 billion, and Yieldstreet has paid out over $196 million in interest alone.
In this episode, Milind shares why he's been fascinated with blockchain and the problems it can solve, including KYC for platforms like Yieldstreet as well as why his superpower is adaptability, and how that's helped him as a serial entrepreneur. He shares some of his favorite books, including, Leadership and Self Deception and The Richest Man in Babylon, as well as why he loves the phrase, "Be bright, be brief, be gone," and why, if he could go back in time, he'd tell his younger self to take even more risks.
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ABOUT OUTLIER ACADEMY
Learn timeless lessons on work and life from iconic founders, world-renown investors, and bestselling authors. Outlier Academy is the forever school for those chasing greatness. Past guests include Gokul Rajaram of DoorDash, Scott Belsky of Benchmark and Adobe, Joey Krug of Pantera Capital, Mark Sisson of Primal Kitchen, Luke Gromen of The Forest for the Trees, and Brian Scudamore of 1-800-GOT-JUNK.
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ABOUT DANIEL SCRIVNER
Outlier Academy is hosted by Daniel Scrivner. Over the last 15 years, Daniel has led design teams at Square and Apple, turned around a $3M+ ARR SaaS business, and invested in more than 100 companies. He launched Outlier Academy in 2020 to learn from the world’s best founders, investors, authors, and peak performance experts.
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Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/danielscrivner
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Jun 23, 2022 • 4min
Trailer – #115 Milind Mehere of Yieldstreet | 20 Minute Playbook
Listen to one of our favorite moments from tomorrow’s 20 Minute Playbook episode featuring Milind Mehere of Yieldstreet. In it, Milind shares his favorite books, tools, habits, and more.
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Jun 22, 2022 • 1h 8min
#114 Daffy: Reinventing Charitable Giving and Building a Modern Platform for Giving | Adam Nash, Co-Founder & CEO
In Episode #114, we explore building a modern charitable giving platform. We’re joined by Adam Nash, Daffy’s Co-Founder and CEO, and we cover donor-advised funds, getting kids involved in charity, and philosophies on angel investing.
“I think the center of solving problems with products and software is to just always remember that people are the heart of everything. You're solving a problem for a person.” – Adam Nash
EPISODE GUIDE (LINKS, QUOTES, NOTES, AND BOOKS MENTIONED)
https://www.danielscrivner.com/notes/daffy-adam-nash
FULL TEXT TRANSCRIPT
https://www.danielscrivner.com/notes/daffy-adam-nash-transcript
CHAPTERS
This episode is our definitive guide to building a modern charitable giving platform. In it we cover:
(00:00:00) – Introduction
(00:02:41) – From Apple to eBay, and from LinkedIn to Daffy
(00:05:01) – Technology asks, what have you done for me lately?
(00:10:53) – The hard part of being a contrarian is being wrong most of the time
(00:15:06) – Software goes beyond the products you build
(00:17:45) – Crossing the chasm
(00:22:56) – The basics of using Daffy
(00:28:03) – Overcoming customer perception of giving
(00:33:17) – What are donor-advised funds?
(00:41:38) – Choosing a charity in Daffy
(00:48:34) – Getting kids involved in charity
(00:51:53) – On Personal Finance for Engineers
(00:55:52) – Adam’s angel investing thesis
(01:02:07) – Lessons from Clayton Christensen
ABOUT DAFFY
Adam Nash is co-founder and CEO of Daffy, which is building a modern platform for giving, and in the process rethinking how we all give to the causes and charities we care about. Daffy has taken something typically only known and used by the ultra wealthy, the donor-advised fund, and made it available to anyone.
With a Daffy account, anyone can contribute cash, stock and even crypto, which is all tax deductible, and then give whatever amount they'd like to over 1.5 million charities on their platform. You can invest your contribution so that your donor-advised fund compounds in value, allowing you to give even more in the years to come, all with the goal of making giving easy and affordable enough that we can all make giving a part of our daily lives.
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Learn timeless lessons on work and life from iconic founders, world-renown investors, and bestselling authors. Outlier Academy is the forever school for those chasing greatness. Past guests include Gokul Rajaram of DoorDash, Scott Belsky of Benchmark and Adobe, Joey Krug of Pantera Capital, Mark Sisson of Primal Kitchen, Luke Gromen of The Forest for the Trees, and Brian Scudamore of 1-800-GOT-JUNK.
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ABOUT DANIEL SCRIVNER
Outlier Academy is hosted by Daniel Scrivner. Over the last 15 years, Daniel has led design teams at Square and Apple, turned around a $3M+ ARR SaaS business, and invested in more than 100 companies. He launched Outlier Academy in 2020 to learn from the world’s best founders, investors, authors, and peak performance experts.
Website: https://www.danielscrivner.com
Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/danielscrivner
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Jun 21, 2022 • 5min
Trailer – #114 Daffy: Reinventing Charitable Giving and Building a Modern Platform for Giving
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Jun 17, 2022 • 21min
#113 Mo Islam of Payload Space: My Favorite Books, Tools, Habits, and More | 20 Minute Playbook
In Episode #113, we’re joined by Mo Islam, Payload’s Co-Founder. We cover lessons we can learn from the Apollo space era, why killing them with kindness is the best option, and why founders should stay focused on what they love.
“Hubris kills startups and humility saves them. No matter what your success level is or may not be, it's really important to always be humble about what you're building and what you're doing because it can change at the drop of a hat.” – Mo Islam
EPISODE GUIDE (LINKS, QUOTES, NOTES, AND BOOKS MENTIONED)
https://www.danielscrivner.com/notes/mo-islam-playbook
FULL TEXT TRANSCRIPT
https://www.danielscrivner.com/notes/mo-islam-playbook-transcript
CHAPTERS
In this episode, we deconstruct Mo Islam’s peak performance playbook—from their favorite book to the tiny habit that's had the biggest impact on their life. In it we cover:
(00:00:00) – Introduction
(00:01:40) – Clearing up misconceptions about space
(00:03:06) – Kill them with kindness, embrace the boredom
(00:05:30) – Learning from Phillippe Laffont and Engines That Move Markets
(00:07:33) – Hubris kills startups; humility saves them
(00:09:18) – Focus on what you love
(00:12:02) – Learning from the Apollo era
(00:13:15) – Relying on to-do lists and the Notes app
(00:15:53) – Do what matters, change people’s lives for the better
ABOUT MO ISLAM
Mo Islam is co-founder of Payload, which is building a media empire dedicated to covering the business and policy of space, as in outer space. We discovered Payload and immediately subscribed to their daily newsletter after it was recommended by Delian Asparouhov, co-founder of Varda Space Industries, in Episode 71. We asked Delian what newsletters and websites he used to stay on top of everything going on in space, and he had only one answer: Payload Space.
Mo Islam has a fascinating background in finance, having worked at J.P. Morgan and Deutsche Bank before co-founding Payload. In this episode, Mo shares why hubris kills startups and humility saves them, what he's learned from incredible investors like Philippe Laffont at Coatue, and why he loves the book Engines That Move Markets, which we had never heard of but immediately ordered after recording this episode with him.
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Learn timeless lessons on work and life from iconic founders, world-renown investors, and bestselling authors. Outlier Academy is the forever school for those chasing greatness. Past guests include Gokul Rajaram of DoorDash, Scott Belsky of Benchmark and Adobe, Joey Krug of Pantera Capital, Mark Sisson of Primal Kitchen, Luke Gromen of The Forest for the Trees, and Brian Scudamore of 1-800-GOT-JUNK.
Website: https://www.outlieracademy.com
Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/outlieracademy
ABOUT DANIEL SCRIVNER
Outlier Academy is hosted by Daniel Scrivner. Over the last 15 years, Daniel has led design teams at Square and Apple, turned around a $3M+ ARR SaaS business, and invested in more than 100 companies. He launched Outlier Academy in 2020 to learn from the world’s best founders, investors, authors, and peak performance experts.
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Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/danielscrivner
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Jun 16, 2022 • 4min
Trailer – #113 Mo Islam of Payload Space | 20 Minute Playbook
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Jun 15, 2022 • 1h 2min
#112 Yieldstreet: Building the Alternative Investment Platform of the Future Across Income, Equity, and Real Estate | Milind Mehere, Co-Founder & CEO
In Episode #112, we explore building an alternative investment platform across income, equity, and real estate. We’re joined by Milind Mehere, Yieldstreet’s Founder and CEO. We cover the entrepreneurial spirit, building a portfolio of liquidity, and why you should invest in private markets.
“I think we talk a lot about spending; we should talk an equal amount about earning.” – Milind Mehere
EPISODE GUIDE (LINKS, QUOTES, NOTES, AND BOOKS MENTIONED)
https://www.danielscrivner.com/notes/yieldstreet-milind-mehere
FULL TEXT TRANSCRIPT
https://www.danielscrivner.com/notes/yieldstreet-milind-mehere-transcript
CHAPTERS
This episode is our definitive guide to private markets and building a private market investment platform. In it we cover:
(00:00:00) – Introduction
(00:02:22) – From tech entrepreneur to creating an investment platform
(00:08:44) – The entrepreneurial spirit
(00:12:07) – How public markets have shifted, and why you should invest in private markets
(00:16:09) – Changes in consumer behavior that affect how we should invest
(00:20:30) – Recommendations on how to allocate your investment portfolio
(00:23:07) – Building a rolling portfolio of liquidity
(00:27:06) – Retail investors and a generational wealth transfer
(00:31:55) – The investment environment in Yieldstreet’s early stages
(00:35:43) – How an ongoing bet between co-founders propelled Yieldstreet forward
(00:37:41) – The extreme need for trust and credibility in money management
(00:41:43) – Distribution infrastructure and a two-sided marketplace in Yieldstreet
(00:51:36) – Founders: learn from feedback, find the right team, and be well-capitalized
ABOUT YIELDSTREET
Milind Mehere is co-founder and CEO of Yieldstreet. Yieldstreet was founded in 2014, and over the last eight years has built one of the largest private investment platforms in the world. To date, they've brought on over 377,000 members to invest more than $1.5 billion, and they've paid out over $196 million in interest on income producing investments alone, not including principle. What started out as a far-fetched idea in 2014 to build one of the world's first private market investment platforms, initially focused around producing income investments like credit, hence the name Yieldstreet, has become one of the largest investment platforms in the world alongside companies like AngelList and Republic.
This episode is our definitive guide to private markets and building a private market investment platform.
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Learn timeless lessons on work and life from iconic founders, world-renown investors, and bestselling authors. Outlier Academy is the forever school for those chasing greatness. Past guests include Gokul Rajaram of DoorDash, Scott Belsky of Benchmark and Adobe, Joey Krug of Pantera Capital, Mark Sisson of Primal Kitchen, Luke Gromen of The Forest for the Trees, and Brian Scudamore of 1-800-GOT-JUNK.
Website: https://www.outlieracademy.com
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ABOUT DANIEL SCRIVNER
Outlier Academy is hosted by Daniel Scrivner. Over the last 15 years, Daniel has led design teams at Square and Apple, turned around a $3M+ ARR SaaS business, and invested in more than 100 companies. He launched Outlier Academy in 2020 to learn from the world’s best founders, investors, authors, and peak performance experts.
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Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/danielscrivner
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Jun 14, 2022 • 5min
Trailer – #112 Yieldstreet: Building the Alternative Investment Platform of the Future Across Income, Equity, and Real Estate
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Jun 10, 2022 • 24min
#111 Illia Polosukhin of NEAR: My Favorite Books, Tools, Habits, and More | 20 Minute Playbook
In Episode #111, we deconstruct Illia Polosukhin's peak performance playbook—from his favorite book to the tiny habit that's had the biggest impact on his life. Illia is the co-founder of NEAR Protocol and Unchain Fund. We cover why context switching is a necessary skill for founders, Illia’s recommended books, and the nuance of the Russian language in writing.
“Find a mentor who's a few years ahead of you, like not too far, but like two, three years ahead of you, because those are people who still remember what they were doing in your position. And so they will be able to give you the most useful advice.” – Illia Polosukhin
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https://www.danielscrivner.com/notes/illia-polosukhin-playbook
FULL TEXT TRANSCRIPT
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CHAPTERS
In this episode, we deconstruct Illia Polosukhin’s peak performance playbook—from his favorite book to the tiny habit that's had the biggest impact on his life. In it we cover:
(00:00:00) – Introduction
(00:01:59) – Designing social graph in Web3
(00:04:01) – Why context switching is a necessary skill for founders
(00:05:51) – Finding mentors who are just a few years ahead of you in business
(00:10:56) – Building a great decentralized ecosystem requires high-level, small, agile teams
(00:13:29) – Books Illia recommends
(00:16:59) – The nuance of the Russian language in writing
ABOUT ILLIA POLOSUKHIN
Illia Polosukhin is co-founder of NEAR Protocol. NEAR is a layer one blockchain that's incredibly fast, has very low transaction fees and is climate neutral, in part because of its proof of stake model.
It's traded on crypto exchanges under the ticker symbol NEAR, and has a market cap of just under $5 billion today. From 2020 through 2021, the developers working in NEARs ecosystem, that's everyone building applications on top of their blockchain quadrupled, making NEAR the second fastest growing chain behind only Solana.
In this episode, Illia shares why he loves running daily and how it helps him remember to just put one foot in front of the other to accomplish anything; why he loves the book Extreme Ownership by Jocko Willink and how he applies that principle in his life and work; why he's fascinated with the concept of a social graph and how to build it into the NEAR protocol and why it's so important for building a better world in Web3; why he thinks everyone should find mentors that are two to three years ahead of them in terms of where they'd like to be and why he'd tell his younger self to focus on speed and velocity shipping quickly in everything that he does.
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Learn timeless lessons on work and life from iconic founders, world-renown investors, and bestselling authors. Outlier Academy is the forever school for those chasing greatness. Past guests include Gokul Rajaram of DoorDash, Scott Belsky of Benchmark and Adobe, Joey Krug of Pantera Capital, Mark Sisson of Primal Kitchen, Luke Gromen of The Forest for the Trees, and Brian Scudamore of 1-800-GOT-JUNK.
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Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/outlieracademy
ABOUT DANIEL SCRIVNER
Outlier Academy is hosted by Daniel Scrivner. Over the last 15 years, Daniel has led design teams at Square and Apple, turned around a $3M+ ARR SaaS business, and invested in more than 100 companies. He launched Outlier Academy in 2020 to learn from the world’s best founders, investors, authors, and peak performance experts.
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Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/danielscrivner
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Jun 9, 2022 • 2min
Trailer – #111 Illia Polosukhin of NEAR | 20 Minute Playbook
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