Walt Morgan is a retired Navy Commander and Navy helicopter pilot, and he’s also the founder of Translational Lift Coaching, where he works with individuals and teams to help them reach their full potential. Walt’s wide-ranging background as a leader, teacher, student, and parent gives him a unique approach to helping people identify what they are doing well, what they could be doing better, and how to make subtle-yet-powerful adjustments that can lead to lasting change. - Walt grew up in rural Oregon, where agriculture and working lands were an important part of his upbringing. He attended college on a military scholarship, graduated, and began flying helicopters for the Navy. After 23 rewarding years of service, Walt retired from the Navy and made his way into corporate America, where he quickly discovered his talent and passion for coaching. Today, Walt has combined his innate skills as a coach with his deep desire to help people, and he’s created a meaningful second act to his already impressive career. - I have had the great fortune of being coached by Walt for many years now, and I credit him and his guidance with helping me to identify the beliefs and ideas that are serving me well and to discard those that created friction. As you’ll hear in this conversation, several of the insights I gained from Walt’s coaching are what led me to leave the real estate business and fully focus on the purpose-driven work of conservation and this podcast. While I generally avoid blabbing about myself in these conversations, I feel that my personal experience with Walt speaks to the power of the work he does on a daily basis with many, many people. - Walt and I sat down at my dining room table and had a fun conversation about his life and career, including: Walt’s upbringing in rural Oregon; his decision to join the military; lessons learned from helicopters, deployments, and decades of service; his experience on the morning of 9/11 and his work in the aftermath; discovering his love of teaching; harnessing youthful wild energy into something productive; becoming a coach; the difference between coaching and therapy; the Enneagram and Integral Coaching methodology; favorite books and music; and much more. - A big thanks to Walt for taking the time to chat and for his guidance over the years. You can find links to everything Walt is doing in the episode notes, so be sure to click through. Hope you enjoy. --- Walt Morgan Translational Lift Coaching Walt on LinkedIn Full episode notes and links: https://mountainandprairie.com/walt-morgan/ --- Join Ed at the 2023 STRENUOUS LIFE RETREAT Support M&P on Patreon --- TOPICS DISCUSSED: 3:30 - How a saddle made it into Walt's living room (a look into his upbringing) 8:300 - Walt’s journey in college 10:00 - Discussing Walt’s hometown of Yoncalla, OR, and the remarkable people connected to it 13:45 - Why Walt became involved in the military  15:30 - Walt’s character pivot from his 19-year-old self to now 18:30 - When Walt started at the US Navy post graduate school 19:15 - Discussing when flying helicopters became a dream of Walt’s 21:45 - Whether or not flight school was a means for Walt to channel the negative experiences he was having in his personal life into something productive 23:45 - Describing Walt’s missions with helicopters 28:15 - Where Walt was on 9/11 31:00 - Walt’s deployments following 9/11 34:45 - Walt’s spiritual and emotional journey in corporate America, and starting his own business 42:15 - People’s reactions (including Ed’s) to receiving the kind of coaching Walt provides  48:15 - Defining Integral Coaching and the process that Ed has specifically worked through with Walt 53:30 - The difference  between Integral Coaching and therapy 56:45 - Exploring the Integral Coaching methodology further, and discussing success stories in Walt’s work 1:05:15 - Why this coaching strategy is not widespread 1:08:00 - How folks can work with Walt 1:13:45 - Walt’s book and music recommendations --- ABOUT MOUNTAIN & PRAIRIE: Mountain & Prairie - All Episodes Mountain & Prairie Shop Mountain & Prairie on Instagram Upcoming Events About Ed Roberson Support Mountain & Prairie Leave a Review on Apple Podcasts

Kathie Sever is an artist, designer, and the founder of Fort Lonesome, an Austin-based company that creates one-of-a-kind, hand-cranked, chain-stitched western wear. What started with Kathie hand-embroidering garments for friends out of her home has transformed over the years into a globally known fashion brand that is worn by well-known personalities such as Matthew McConaughey and singer-songwriter Nikki Lane. Using decades-old chain stitching machines, Kathie and her team create some of the most intricate and rich designs imaginable, and Fort Lonesome has been credited with the resurgence of Western wear’s popularity in fashion circles around the world. - Kathie was born, raised, and educated in California, but soon after graduating from art school, she took off for Montana, where she worked at a dude ranch. She worked at the ranch off and on for several years, and she took note of how the ranchers brought creativity, craftsmanship, and an artist’s eye to so many of their tasks– from welding to sewing to leatherwork. Kathie loved the idea of functional art, and she has since made a career of combining handcrafted artistry with pragmatic design. And now, as the head of Fort Lonesome, she and her team continue to innovate and push the boundaries of functional art with Fort Lonesome’s unique brand of what they call Cosmic Western wear. - I loved this conversation with Kathie and could’ve talked with her for many more hours. We covered a lot, including Kathie’s upbringing in California and how her family affected her artistic trajectory; her experience in Montana and how it laid the foundation for Fort Lonesome; her work as a pastry chef and the challenges of working in the restaurant scene of the 1990s; the power that can come as a result of negative experiences; her growth and evolution as a manager and business owner; how parenthood affected her goals; the pros and cons of working with famous people; the nervous feelings that come with creating art; our shared Enneagram personality profiles; favorite books; and much, much more. - Whether you’re interested in art, fashion, the creative process, entrepreneurship, or balancing a career with the demands of parenthood, you’ll glean a lot of value from this conversation. A huge thank you to Kathie for the conversation, and thank you for listening. --- Fort Lonesome Fort Lonesome on Instagram Full episode notes and links: https://mountainandprairie.com/kathie-sever/ --- TOPICS DISCUSSED: 3:15 - How Kathie’s childhood led her to a career in art 9:00 - Kathie’s goals as she went into art school 10:00 - How Kathie ended up in Montana 13:30 - Kathie’s takeaways from her time in Montana 15:45 - When Kathie started to recognize Western wear as a creative outlet  18:30 - Kathie’s next steps after working at a ranch in Montana 20:15 - When pastry making came into the equation, and exploring the connection between pastry making and art 23:30 - Kathie’s time in Austin and the misogyny she experienced in the restaurant scene in the late 90s 29:00 - Exploring the motivational power of negative experiences 32:00 - How having a kid impacted Kathie and how it led to her work with clothing 37:45 - Kathie’s journey in figuring out the business side of making clothes 43:45 - When Kathie realized she was onto a good business idea, and how she balanced managing a small business from home while raising kids 1:00:00 - How oil painting impacted Kathie’s embroidery work 1:03:45 - The first time a celebrity reached out for one of Kathie’s pieces 1:07:15 - How Kathie balances her vision for her art with that of her clients when making clothes for performers 1:11:00 - Whether or not Kathie still feels nervous about putting her art into the world 1:18:30 - Kathie’s vision for Fort Lonesome in the next 5-7 years 1:22:15 - Kathie’s book recommendations --- ABOUT MOUNTAIN & PRAIRIE: Mountain & Prairie - All Episodes Mountain & Prairie Shop Mountain & Prairie on Instagram Upcoming Events About Ed Roberson Support Mountain & Prairie Leave a Review on Apple Podcasts

This is the second of two live episodes that were recorded at the Texas Chapter of The Wildlife Society’s 2023 annual meeting in Houston, Texas. The topic of this panel discussion was Achieving Landscape-Scale Management in a Private Land State. As you learned in the previous episode, Texas has very little public land compared to other western states, so large-landscape conservation in Texas brings with it a number of extremely unique challenges and opportunities. In this conversation, we heard from four of Texas’s most respected conservation leaders– individuals who are finding ways to achieve ambitious conservation goals using their own unique skillsets and approaches. - I was joined on stage in front of an audience of nearly 600 people by Roel Lopez, Director of the Texas A&M Natural Resources Institute; Chad Ellis, CEO of the Texas Agricultural Land Trust; Terry Anderson, co-founder of Conservation Equity Management and Conservation Equity Partners; and Billy Tarrant, Associate Director of Stewardship Services at Borderlands Research Institute. You can check out the episode notes for more information on each of the panelists and links to their respective bios and organizations. - As you’ll hear in the conversation, there are a wide range of innovative approaches and tools– from academic to non-profit to market-based– that are allowing Texas to be a trailblazer in private lands conservation in the United States. So we had a lot to cover in this hour-long session, including: The evolution and use of conservation easements, the importance of building solid relationships with landowners, new conservation tools on the horizon, how Texas has exported is private lands conservation tools to other states, data around population growth in Texas, advice for you and aspiring conservationists, and a long list of books, podcasts, and resources that have influenced these conservation leaders. - And just before this conversation, each of the panelists did a brief presentation that summarized all of the important work they are doing in Texas. If you’d like to listen to those talks and access their Powerpoint presentations, there’s a link in the episode notes. However, you don’t need to listen to those presentations to get full value out of this episode– but they are there if you want to go a little deeper. - If you’re interested in conservation and learning from impressive individuals who have devoted their lives to land, stewardship, and conservation, then I know you’ll enjoy this episode. Once again, thanks to John Kinsey and the Texas Chapter of The Wildlife Society for inviting me down to Houston and for giving me the opportunity to have these meaningful conversations. Enjoy! --- Texas Chapter of The Wildlife Society The Wildlife Society Panelists Bios Listen to the pre-podcast presentations Full episode notes and links: https://mountainandprairie.com/landscape-scale/ --- TOPICS DISCUSSED: 3:00 – Introduction 5:00 – Discussing the Conservation Easement as a tool, and how it has evolved 10:30 – The importance of relationships in this work 13:30 – What new tools do we need in private lands conservation 22:00 – Discussing the private lands conservation strategies that Texas has been able to export to other states 27:15 – Whether or not the experts predicted the population numbers and growth that Texas is seeing today 29:45 – Advice for young professionals who want to become better storytellers 40:30 – The importance of building relationships with politicians for conservation work 53:00 – Books, podcasts, heroes, and other resources that have influenced the panelists 56:30 – Where the panelists find hope and motivation --- ABOUT MOUNTAIN & PRAIRIE: Mountain & Prairie - All Episodes Mountain & Prairie Shop Mountain & Prairie on Instagram Upcoming Events About Ed Roberson Support Mountain & Prairie Leave a Review on Apple Podcasts

This is the first of two live episodes that were recorded at the Texas Chapter of The Wildlife Society’s 2023 annual meeting in Houston, Texas. The topic of this panel discussion was Equitable Access to the Outdoors, a subject that is timely and important in all areas of the West, but especially important in Texas, where 93% of the state’s land is privately owned. Whether your interest is outdoor recreation, public health, climate change, or public-private conservation partnerships, the ability for people to have access to parks, trails, open spaces, and wild places is becoming more and more important with each passing year. - For this conversation, I was joined on stage by five Texas conservation innovators– folks who are working hard to ensure that Texans of all stripes have ample opportunities to spend time outside– whether in the cities or in the state’s more rural areas. In order of their appearance in this conversation, we had Jaime González, Healthy Communities Director for the Nature Conservancy; Sarah Coles, Executive Director of the Texas Children in Nature Network; Immanuel Salas, Texas Parks and Wildlife’s R3 Coordinator for Hunting and Shooting Sports; Neal Wilkins, President and CEO of the East Foundation; and Joseph Fitzsimons, conservationist and owner of the San Pedro Ranch. You can check out the episode notes for more information on each of the panelists and links to their respective bios and organizations. - I could’ve spent hours talking to each of the panelists individually, but as a group, we had a very informative and educational conversation– one that provided a different perspective from some of my past episodes that focused on equitable access. we covered a lot in this hour-long discussion, including: the importance of building thriving cities with ample parks, trails, and outdoor space; how these organizations are working to reverse some of the disheartening trends around children’s health and their access to the outdoors; the importance of collaborative partnerships, the R3 program in Texas– what it is, why it’s important, and how it is evolving; the role of private landowners in providing access opportunities; the importance of youth education; the role of government; public land in Texas; the need to engage with elected officials; favorite books; and much more. - I learned a lot from this conversation and was honored to share a stage with such an impressive group of people who are working so hard on this all-important issue. Click the link in your podcast player to access all of the notes and links from this episode– we’ve listed tons of excellent resources from this episode. - Thanks to John Kinsey and the Texas Chapter of The Wildlife Society for inviting me to host this event, and thank you for listening. Hope you enjoy! --- Texas Chapter of The Wildlife Society The Wildlife Society Panelists Bios Full episode note and links: https://mountainandprairie.com/equitable-access/ --- TOPICS DISCUSSED 3:04 - An introduction, and then Jaime discusses his work with TNC in Houston 9:25 - The quantitative way that Jaime and TNC evaluate success in connecting youth with the outdoors 11:25 - Sarah introduces Texas Children in Nature Network 15:55 - Sarah explains TCINN’s partnership model 19:10 - Immanuel discusses the R3 program and its importance 26:40 - Neil introduces the East Foundation 30:55 - How the East Foundation’s educational programs have shifted over time 32:10 - How Joe became involved in public lands conservation work through the Texas Parks and Wildlife Commission 38:55 - The panelists' experience in dealing with politics and elected officials 46:40 - The panelists discuss the importance of storytelling 58:40 - Panelists’ suggestions for books, podcasts, resources to access, etc --- ABOUT MOUNTAIN & PRAIRIE: Mountain & Prairie - All Episodes Mountain & Prairie Shop Mountain & Prairie on Instagram Upcoming Events About Ed Roberson Support Mountain & Prairie Leave a Review on Apple Podcasts

Taylor Hawes is the Director of the Colorado River Program for the Nature Conservancy. As the leader of the program, she guides TNC’s efforts to conserve the freshwater biodiversity of the Colorado River Basin while also meeting human demands for water– challenging objectives given the wide-ranging stresses facing the river today. But despite the challenges brought about by climate change, overallocation, and increasing demand, Taylor and her team are making great strides toward finding long-term solutions to create a sustainable future for the Colorado River and the people, plants, and animals that depend on it. - Taylor grew up on the east coast, and, from a young age, she felt a deep connection to land, water, and natural resources. She fell in love with wide-open spaces while on a course with the National Outdoor Leadership School, and she’s devoted her career to protecting land and water in the West. Prior to joining the team at TNC, she served as Associate Counsel to the Colorado River Water Conservation District on Colorado’s Western Slope, working on water quality, water policy, environmental permitting, and water rights litigation. - If you pay attention to the news, then you’ll know that the Colorado River has been receiving tons of media attention for the dire conditions and projections facing the entire region. Reservoirs are at historic lows, temperatures are rising, and the need for more water is increasing. In the first part of this conversation, I ask Taylor to decipher many of the surface-level sound bytes that I’ve heard in the news, and she provides some much-needed context and background regarding the river basin’s current challenges. We then talk about how TNC is working to solve these problems, by building community support, working collaboratively with Tribal nations, and helping agricultural producers become more efficient. And we spend the last part of the conversation talking about Taylor’s professional journey– why she chooses to do this work, what gives her hope, and her goals for her work on the Colorado River. - This was a timely conversation, and I hope it sheds some light on the challenges facing the Colorado River today– and provides some optimism about the river’s future. Thanks to Taylor for taking the time to chat, and thank you for listening. --- Taylor Hawes TNC's Colorado River work Full episode notes and links: https://mountainandprairie.com/taylor-hawes/ --- This episode is brought to you in partnership with the Colorado chapter of The Nature Conservancy. Guided by science and grounded by decades of collaborative partnerships, The Nature Conservancy has a long-standing legacy of achieving lasting results to create a world where nature and people thrive. On the fourth Tuesday of every month throughout 2023, Mountain & Prairie will be delving into conversations with a wide range of The Nature Conservancy’s leaders, partners, collaborators, and stakeholders, highlighting the myriad of conservation challenges, opportunities, and solutions here in the American West. To learn more about The Nature Conservancy’s impactful work in Colorado and around the world, visit www.nature.org/colorado TOPICS DISCUSSED: 3:15 - An overview of the situation regarding Colorado River water 8:00 - Discussing the “bandaid” solutions for the overallocated Colorado River implemented over the years 10:45 - Who is making the water allocation decisions for the Colorado River 12:00 - The breakdown of water use in the West 16:45 - Why has this situation has become an emergency right now, meriting the involvement of the federal government 19:30 - The timeline of Colorado river use reduction mandates 21:30 - The potential impacts of shrinking Colorado River on the Grand Canyon 23:00 - What will happen if the Colorado River Basin states do not agree on a plan to reduce water use in accordance with federal mandates 24:45 - How Taylor focuses on solutions regarding such a complex, difficult-to-model problem 28:30 - Some strategies TNC is employing to support and work with producers in reducing their water use  35:00 - Discussing the difficulties and importance of relationship building in this work 40:15 - TNC’s work supporting Tribal water challenges 44:45 - What drives Taylor’s work and what are her goals 47:00 - How Taylor ended up doing this work 53:45 - How law school helped Taylor 55:45 - What keeps Taylor energized about her work and TNC 58:15 - How anybody can get involved in this work 1:02:00 - Taylor’s book recommendations --- ABOUT MOUNTAIN & PRAIRIE: Mountain & Prairie - All Episodes Mountain & Prairie Shop Mountain & Prairie on Instagram Upcoming Events About Ed Roberson Support Mountain & Prairie Leave a Review on Apple Podcasts

Beau Alexander is the owner and operator of Maxwell Alexander Gallery, a world-renowned art gallery that curates and celebrates “a new breed of fine art” here in the American West and beyond. Beau and his brother, the famed western artist Logan Maxwell Hagege, officially opened the gallery back in 2012, and their goals were simple: Represent one-of-a-kind artists, put the artists’ interests first, and serve as a trusted resource for a wide range of collectors around the globe. After many years of scrappy hard work and outside-the-box thinking, Maxwell Alexander Gallery has become a cornerstone of the Western art world. - Beau was born and raised in Los Angles, and from an early age, he showed a talent for entrepreneurship and marketing. He and his brother Logan started a number of businesses together, combining their proclivity for creativity with the tireless work ethic they learned from their immigrant father. As Logan’s art career exploded, they both saw an opportunity to create an art gallery that takes care of its artists and clients– one that plays the long game and is deeply invested in the people behind the art… not solely focused on making a sale. So, in 2012 they opened Maxwell Alexander Gallery and have steadily risen to the top of the western contemporary art world. And just a few weeks ago, Beau was awarded the Autry Museum’s John J. Geraghty Award, which recognizes an individual for his or her Advancement of Contemporary Western art. - Beau and I met last fall in L.A. at Maxwell Alexander Gallery’s 10 Year Anniversary Exhibition, so I was thrilled to have him join me for a more in-depth conversation about his journey in western art. We started by discussing his upbringing in LA and how entrepreneurship has always been a part of his life. We discuss some of the good and bad aspects of the old-school art gallery world that sparked the idea to start Maxwell Alexander Gallery. We discussed the early days of the business, and how he had to grind and be extremely creative in order to gain a foothold in the art world. We also discuss his irreverent, often times hilarious, approach to using social media as a marketing tool and the importance of introducing new collectors to western art. We discuss art valuation, the importance of treating people fairly, his other artistic influences, and his brother Logan’s evolution as an artist. - We talk a lot about Logan and the 10 Year Anniversary exhibition– you can listen to those podcasts by following the links in the episode notes. But for now, I hope you enjoy this inspiring conversation with Beau Alexander. --- Maxwell Alexander Gallery Maxwell Alexander Gallery on Instagram Live podcast from the 10th Anniversary Exhibition M&P podcast with Logan Maxwell Hagege Full episode notes and links: https://mountainandprairie.com/beau-alexander/ --- SUPPORT Mountain & Prairie via PATREON --- TOPICS DISCUSSED: 3:45 – Setting the scene in Beau’s year leading up to starting the Maxwell Alexander Gallery 10:00 – Discussing Beau’s time studying business, before which he had actually started his own business 14:00 – How Beau prioritizes relationships in his business 17:30 – Beau’s process of evaluating artwork 21:30 – How the Maxwell Alexander Gallery is different from other art galleries 24:00 – When Beau figured out that the Maxwell Alexander Gallery was a unique idea to run with in the art world, and the early process of establishing the gallery 29:45 – Discussing Beau’s unconventional ways of advertising the gallery 31:15 – How long it took for the established art community to recognize and embrace the Maxwell Alexander Gallery model 36:45 – Discussing the 10 Year Anniversary of the gallery 39:30 – Talking about the finances and value of art 49:30 – Advice for young art collectors 52:30 – Beau’s favorite art 59:30 – Beau’s other influences outside of painting and sculpture, as well as the impact Logan Maxwell has had on the art world --- ABOUT MOUNTAIN & PRAIRIE: Mountain & Prairie - All Episodes Mountain & Prairie Shop Mountain & Prairie on Instagram Upcoming Events About Ed Roberson Support Mountain & Prairie Leave a Review on Apple Podcasts

I met Chandra Brown through the podcast more than four years ago, and with each passing year, I’ve been more and more inspired by her life and work. You may remember that she’s the founder of Freeflow Institute, a Montana-based organization that curates immersive outdoor learning experiences in Earth’s wildest classrooms. What started with combining summer river trips with writing workshops taught by some of the West’s greatest authors has turned into a year-round, immersive curriculum that incorporates many forms of art and storytelling. - If you’ve listened to a lot of Mountain & Prairie episodes, then you will recognize many past and present Freeflow Instructors– Hal Herring, Bill deBuys, Chris La Tray, Heather Hansman, Anna Brones, Brendan Leonard, Alexis Bonogofsky, and Elliott Woods. And you’ll also recognize the Freeflow classrooms, which include the Salmon River, Green River, Big Blackfoot River, San Juan Islands, and the canyon country of Southwest Colorado. The overlap between what Chandra has built at Freeflow and what we’re all doing here in Mountain & Prairie is significant, so I was excited to have Chandra join me for another conversation. - If you want to hear more about Chandra’s upbringing in Alaska and her fascinating life trajectory, I’d encourage you to go back and listen to our first episode. But also feel free to dive right into this conversation, as we had a wonderful chat about everything from cold water plunges to Freeflow’s growth and evolution to the challenges of running a small business during the pandemic years. We discuss some of the upcoming courses for this calendar year, Freeflow’s scholarship program, the importance of pursuing one’s own creative endeavors, and how Chandra and grown as a person over the past four years. - I’d also be crazy not to mention that I’m leading a Freeflow course late this summer, down the Green River in Utah, through Gates of Ladore and Dinosaur National Monument. We’ll be focused on the power of optimistic storytelling, and how storytelling can be used to effect change here in the West and beyond. You can check out the link in the episode notes to learn more, but my course is limited to 12 people, and it’s already filling up. But even if you’re not interested in spending a week with me, I’d encourage you to check out all the courses and the scholarship opportunities. I wish I could go on all the courses! - Thanks for listening. Hope you enjoy! --- Freeflow Institute Ed's Summer 2023 Freeflow Course All Freeflow Courses Chandra's first M&P episode Full episode notes and links: https://mountainandprairie.com/chandra-brown-2/ --- This episode is brought to you in partnership with my friends at Stonefly Nets - Handcrafted Fishing Nets Made in Arkansas --- TOPICS DISCUSSED: 4:00 - Chandra’s most recent trip with Anna Brones 6:15 - How cold water became a part of Chandra’s life and practice 9:44 - An overview of Freeflow Institute and how it came to be 12:00 - How Freeflow has evolved 14:45 - Whether Freeflow’s evolution was more due to Chandra’s planning or her flexibility 16:30 - Chandra’s advice for someone thinking of quitting their steady job to build something new 19:45 - The business owners and creatives Chandra admires 22:45 - How the Freeflow Foundation came to be 25:15 - Some available scholarships through the Freeflow Foundation 27:45 - Running through some of the currently available Freeflow courses, with a brief tangent into dishwashing habits 30:45 - What makes a Freeflow Institute course successful for participants 34:00 - Success stories from past courses 41:30 - How Freeflow has changed Chandra 46:45 - Freeflow’s podcast and creative services 50:00 - Chandra’s book recommendations --- ABOUT MOUNTAIN & PRAIRIE: Mountain & Prairie - All Episodes Mountain & Prairie Shop Mountain & Prairie on Instagram Upcoming Events About Ed Roberson Support Mountain & Prairie Leave a Review on Apple Podcasts

If you’ve listened to Mountain & Prairie since the early days, then I’m sure you remember Cate Havstad-Casad. She first joined me on the podcast in early 2018 for a conversation about her life and career as a hatmaker and farmer. In late 2019, she was one of the four amazing women who joined me on stage for a live podcast at the Bozeman’s Ellen Theatre. And today, more than 5 years after that first conversation, she joins me once again to talk about her continued personal and professional evolution. - Over the past few years, Cate has been working at a dizzying pace, focusing on creating and building several purpose-driven businesses. She’s the founder and CEO of Range Revolution, the world’s first regenerative leather luggage company, as well as the co-founder of Agricultural Connections Co-Op, a regional food distribution business based in Bend, Oregon. Additionally, she and her husband, Chris, have continued to grow their organic farming business, and her hatmaking business, Havstad Hat Co., continues to grow and evolve in unexpected ways. And to top it all off, in 2021, Cate and Chris welcomed their first child into the world. - So, we had a lot to discuss! We started by talking about how Cate thinks about her work today versus five years ago, and why she feels it is important to continue to take business risks even after taking on the new responsibilities that come with parenthood. We talk a lot about Range Revolution and the Agricultural Connections Co-op, and Cate shares a ton of lessons learned from the process of founding these vastly different businesses. We discuss leadership and management, and Cate offers up some excellent books and resources that have helped her to become a better leader. We talk about fundraising, the importance of self-awareness, thinking versus doing, mentors, Wendell Berry, and our mutual love of hard work. - Cate obviously has a full schedule, so I appreciate her carving out time to chat with me. Check out the episode notes for links to her businesses and all of the resources we discuss. Thanks for listening, hope you enjoy. --- Havstad Hat Co Range Revolution Casad Family Farms Agricultural Connections Co-op Full episode notes and links: https://mountainandprairie.com/cate-havstad-2/ --- SUPPORT Mountain & Prairie via PATREON for as little as $2/month! --- TOPICS DISCUSSED 4:00 - Comparing 2017 Cate Havstad to Cate Havstad now 8:00 - Talking about starting businesses and incurring risk later in one’s career 11:15 - Discussing Range Revolution  15:00 - Where the business of Range Revolution stands 18:00 - Cate’s work ethic and how she got potential business partners to take her seriously  20:45 - Cate’s relationships with hard work and rest 23:45 - How Cate learned to build and manage teams in her work 27:15 - Cate’s business book recommendations 30:30 - Cate’s red flags in a teammate  32:00 - Discussing Agricultural Connections Co-op 34:30 - Defining a “cooperative entity” or “co-op” 36:15 - How Cate raised the money to start her co-op 38:00 - Why Cate is so good at fundraising and how she networks to that end 43:30 - Mistakes Cate made that taught valuable lessons 49:15 - Where Cate finds balance between action and reflective self-awareness 51:15 - Cate’s mentors 53:45 - Cate’s suggestions for Wendell Berry reads 58:00 - Other book and podcast recommendations from Cate --- ABOUT MOUNTAIN & PRAIRIE: Mountain & Prairie - All Episodes Mountain & Prairie Shop Mountain & Prairie on Instagram Upcoming Events About Ed Roberson Support Mountain & Prairie Leave a Review on Apple Podcasts

Dr. Katharine Hayhoe is a world-renowned climate scientist, professor, and Chief Scientist for The Nature Conservancy, where she leads and coordinates the organization's scientific efforts. She is also the author of "Saving Us: A Climate Scientist's Case for Hope and Healing in a Divided World," an excellent book you've likely heard me reference on the podcast. Whether you are interested in learning more about the facts, data, or projections regarding climate change, or if you are seeking guidance on how best to approach challenging conversations about climate, I highly recommend "Saving Us." It's an optimistic, solutions-oriented guidebook for finding common ground and having productive conversations. - Katharine was born and raised in Canada and has been obsessed with science, the natural world, and the universe for as long as she can remember. Her undergraduate studies focused on physics and astronomy, but as she was finishing up her degree, she happened to take a climate science course, which captured her imagination and changed the focus of her education and career. Today, Katharine is a distinguished professor at Texas Tech, a highly respected researcher, and a sought-after speaker with a TED Talk that's been viewed more than 4 million times. And to top it all off, in 2021, she joined The Nature Conservancy as its Chief Scientist. - Katharine and I met up in Steamboat Springs, Colorado, where she was the keynote speaker at a community event focused on climate and climate change in the Yampa Valley and beyond. Katharine and I chatted for an hour before her event, and we managed to cover a lot of ground. We discussed her book "Saving Us," her TED talk, and a concept known as "The Six Americas of Global Warming." We discuss how and why her Christian faith plays such an important role in her work to solve climate change, and she offers some common-sense, optimistic approaches to having challenging conversations with smart people who do not think that climate change is a threat. She also talks about her role at The Nature Conservancy, specific climate opportunities and challenges facing the American West, and she offers a ton of excellent book recommendations. - Thank you to Dr. Hayhoe for taking the time out of her busy schedule to chat with me, and thank you for listening. Hope you enjoy. --- Dr. Katharine Hayhoe "Saving Us: A Climate Scientist's Case for Hope and Healing in a Divided World" Full episode notes and links: https://mountainandprairie.com/katharine-hayhoe/ --- This episode is brought to you in partnership with the Colorado chapter of The Nature Conservancy. Guided by science and grounded by decades of collaborative partnerships, The Nature Conservancy has a long-standing legacy of achieving lasting results to create a world where nature and people thrive. On the fourth Tuesday of every month throughout 2023, Mountain & Prairie will be delving into conversations with a wide range of The Nature Conservancy’s leaders, partners, collaborators, and stakeholders, highlighting the myriad of conservation challenges, opportunities, and solutions here in the American West. To learn more about The Nature Conservancy’s impactful work in Colorado and around the world, visit www.nature.org/colorado --- TOPICS DISCUSSED: 3:30 - Why Dr. Hayhoe wrote "Saving Us" 5:45 - Regarding Dr. Hayhoe’s TED Talk 8:15 - Discussing The Six Americas of Global Warming 12:00 - The relationship between Dr. Hayhoe’s faith and climate work 17:45 - When religion and climate change dismissal historically became tied together 21:30 - Discussing the balance between fear and guilt as motivating and stagnating forces 28:00 - What surprised Dr. Hayhoe in writing the book 33:45 - Role playing how to interact with intelligent people who doubt climate science 37:30 - Applying lessons learned from COVID-19 to climate change 41:30 - Dr. Hayhoe’s time as 9-year-old abroad in Columbia and how it influenced her thinking and career 46:15 - Why Dr. Hayhoe decided to work with The Nature Conservancy, and the impacts she hopes to make 50:15 - The stats Dr. Hayhoe would want to see to feel she has had an impact in five years 54:45 - The challenges and opportunities facing the arid West amidst climate change 57:00 - Dr. Hayhoe’s reading habits and some books she has loved --- ABOUT MOUNTAIN & PRAIRIE: Mountain & Prairie - All Episodes Mountain & Prairie Shop Mountain & Prairie on Instagram Upcoming Events About Ed Roberson Support Mountain & Prairie Leave a Review on Apple Podcasts

Megan Torgerson is a podcaster and the creator of Reframing Rural, a narrative podcast whose mission is to “share stories of people and places in rural America in an effort to celebrate culture, preserve history and cultivate curiosity and conversation across geographic, class and cultural divides.” In just three seasons, Megan has grown Reframing Rural from a spark of an idea into a highly regarded podcast, one that has been recognized by institutions such as the Headwaters Foundation, Montana Farmers Union, Humanities Montana, and more. Personally, I have learned a ton from Megan’s work, so it was an honor to have her join me on the podcast. - Megan was born and raised on the Great Plains of eastern Montana, primarily in the small town of Dagmar. She attended the University of Montana in Missoula and eventually made her way to graduate school in Seattle, where she earned her MFA.  As you’ll hear in this conversation, during her time in grad school, Megan began exploring the idea of a podcast that focused on rural America. Rather than getting bogged down in endless planning and idea generation, she took action, produced Season 1, and put it out into the world in spring 2020. Fast forward to today, and Megan has a team that works with her, she continues to receive wide-ranging recognition, and the show is being broadcast on several Montana radio stations. - I’ve known Megan for a year or so, but this was the first time I had a chance to ask her detailed questions about her journey as a storyteller. We started out talking about her upbringing in Dagmar, as well as her educational background and early career. We discuss why she decided to create a narrative podcast, and she explains the very involved process of creating a single episode. We discuss some of the issues she explores in Reframing Rural, including rural gentrification, which was the topic of one of her most recent episodes. We discuss her generosity in the podcast space, whether or not she considers herself a journalist, why she is optimistic about the future of rural America, some advice for aspiring podcasters, and she has lots of amazing book recommendations. - If you haven’t already, I’d encourage you to subscribe to Reframing Rural on your favorite podcast app. Megan is committed and she’s a pro, and I know that Mountain & Prairie listeners will appreciate the amazing work she’s putting into the world. Enjoy! --- Reframing Rural Reframing Rural: S3 E4: Rural Gentrification in North Idaho Full episode notes and links: https://mountainandprairie.com/megan-torgerson/ Green River Course with the Ed & Freeflow Institute --- TOPICS DISCUSSED: 5:30 - Megan’s childhood 12:30 - What Megan hoped to do once she went to college in Missoula 15:00 - How Megan’s passions inspired hard work 17:15 - Why Megan started Reframing Rural 22:00 - Why Megan produces a narrative style podcast 26:00 - When did Megan plan for podcasting to become a job 28:30 - Megan’s experience with why podcasts generate such compelling stories and interviews 31:30 - Whether podcasting is a journalistic or creative endeavor for Megan, and whether she is concerned or not with “taking sides” 35:30 - An example of Megan’s podcast topics 39:30 - If Megan worries about negative feedback to her show, and how she handles it 44:30 - Where Megan’s generosity comes from 47:30 - What Megan is optimistic about regarding rural America 51:30 - How Megan measures success as a storyteller 53:30 - Other storytellers that Megan admires 55:15 - How to start a podcast, according to Megan 57:30 - How long the Dover episode took Megan to make  59:15 - Megan’s accolades 1:02:30 - Megan’s book recommendations 1:06:15 - Megan’s parting words of wisdom --- ABOUT MOUNTAIN & PRAIRIE: Mountain & Prairie - All Episodes Mountain & Prairie Shop Mountain & Prairie on Instagram Upcoming Events About Ed Roberson Support Mountain & Prairie Leave a Review on Apple Podcasts