Rebecca Clarren is an award-winning journalist who has been writing about the American West for more than twenty years. Her most recent book is titled "The Cost of Free Land: Jews, Lakota, and an American Inheritance." The book is a powerful, nuanced, and deeply personal exploration of her ancestors fleeing antisemitism in Russia and immigrating to the South Dakota prairie at the turn of the 20th century. I was lucky enough to receive an advanced copy of the book, and I absolutely loved it. Rebecca seamlessly weaves together heavily researched US and Native American history with a vulnerable, clear-eyed examination of her family’s legacy. The result is an engaging story that not only helped me better understand the past, but provided a blueprint for how we can begin to make amends and move forward, both individually and as a nation. - In "The Cost of Free Land," Rebecca grapples with the complicated ripple effects of her family settling on the Great Plains– the free land that they received from the US government allowed them to establish a foothold in America, and over time, they found relative stability, especially when compared to their chaotic lives in Russia. But her family’s stability and eventual success came at a steep cost to the Lakota people, who were the victims of stolen land, broken treaties, and the devastating loss of their culture and resources. Contrasting her family’s experience with that of the Lakota makes this story all the more powerful, and speaks volumes about Rebeccs’s skill as a writer and journalist. Again, I loved the book. - Rebecca and I connected the day before the book was published, and we had a wonderful conversation. We started by discussing why she decided to write such a deeply personal story, and how that differs from most of her previous journalistic endeavors. She provides a brief overview of the Lakota people and the laundry list of injustices they faced during westward expansion. We discuss the complicated nature of land ownership on reservations, and how those complications continue even to this day. She explains how the US’s treatment of Native American influenced Hitler and the Nazi Party, and how she personally processes her family’s role in Westward expansion by working with spiritual mentors and exploring her own Jewish faith. We also talk about her career as a journalist, how motherhood has changed her, the challenge of writing, and she has lots of great book recommendations. - Thanks to Rebecca for writing such an important and eye-opening book, and thank you for listening.  Hope you enjoy! --- Rebecca Clarren "The Cost of Free Land" by Rebecca Clarren Full episode notes and links: https://mountainandprairie.com/rebecca-clarren/ Support M&P on Patreon --- TOPICS DISCUSSED: 3:15 - When Rebecca decided to write “The Cost of Free Land” 9:15 - Discussing the vulnerable process of capturing not just Rebecca’s story, but her entire family’s story and how it ties in with American histories of stolen land 18:15 - Discussing empathy in the difficult stories of Rebecca’s book 21:30 - A brief history of the Lakota and the injustices they faced during westward expansion 27:00 - Discussing the complicated nature of land ownership on Indigenous reservations, and how the US Government still influences land decisions on reservations 30:45 - Discussing the historical implications of US land theft from Indigenous peoples, including how it influenced the actions of the Nazis during the Holocaust 33:15 - The Six Steps of Repentance and how Rebecca processes the violent past of the US and how she benefited from it   40:45 - The biggest surprise about Rebecca’s family that she learned in writing this book 43:15 - Surprises in Rebecca’s research about the Lakota 48:00 - Where Rebecca thinks the world of journalism is going 51:15 - Rebecca’s career trajectory 55:15 - How having kids impacted Rebecca’s approach to work 58:30 - The difficulty of writing 59:30 - Rebecca’s book recommendations 1:05:45 - Rebecca’s parting words of wisdom --- ABOUT MOUNTAIN & PRAIRIE: Mountain & Prairie - All Episodes Mountain & Prairie Shop Mountain & Prairie on Instagram Upcoming Events About Ed Roberson Support Mountain & Prairie Leave a Review on Apple Podcasts

Nick Offerman is an actor, author, humorist, and woodworker who is best known for playing the legendary character Ron Swanson on NBC’s Parks and Recreation. But his success as an actor is just the tip of the iceberg– he’s written five New York Times bestselling books, is the narrator of three of Wendell Berry’s audiobooks, and owns and operates Offerman Woodshop, where he and a small collective of woodworkers handcraft everything from spoons to furniture to canoes. And as many of you know, Nick is a staunch advocate for conservation, responsible land stewardship, and sustainable agriculture. - Nick’s most recent book is titled "Where the Deer and the Antelope Play: The Pastoral Observations of One Ignorant American Who Loves to Walk Outside," and it’s an excellent, thought-provoking read. It follows Nick on a series of adventures through the American West and English countryside– adventures driven by his desire to better understand conservation, recreation, and humans’ connection to the land and wild places. Along the way, he explores everything from the legacies of John Muir and Aldo Leopold to regenerative agriculture, without shying away from tough, complex topics, such as industrial farming and the conservation movement’s impact on Indigenous cultures. The book also hits on so many underlying ideas that are often explored here on Mountain & Prairie, including nuance, empathy, compassion, curiosity, and doing work that makes the world a better place. I loved the book, and I highly recommend it. - I met up with Nick in Los Angeles at Offerman Woodshop, and we had a fun, inspiring, and at times hilarious conversation about everything from Aldo Leopold’s Land Ethic to Nick's work as a “traveling clown.” (His words, not mine!) We started out by discussing the life-changing moment when a friend handed him a Wendell Berry book, and how Wendell’s writings and philosophy continue to be one of Nick’s most important sources of inspiration and instruction to this day. We discuss why hard work and being of service to others are so deeply embedded in Nick’s DNA, and the critical role that artists can play in solving societal challenges. We talk about authenticity, the importance of being even-keeled, the need for nuance and open-mindedness, the skill of self-deprecation, enjoying the process of creating, not passing judgment, and much, much more. - "Where the Deer and the Antelope Play" was just released in paperback, so follow the links in the episode notes to pick up a copy. If you’re a longtime listener, I know you’ll love it. There are also links to Offerman Woodshop, Nick’s touring schedule, and all of his other books, so click through and check it all out. - A thousand thanks to Nick for inviting me to his shop for such an amazing conversation, and thank you for listening. Hope you enjoy! --- Nick Offerman "Where the Deer and the Antelope Play" (now in paperback!) Offerman Woodshop Full episode notes and links: https://mountainandprairie.com/nick-offerman/ --- TOPICS DISCUSSED: 3:30 - A self-deprecation showdown 5:30 - The impact of Wendell Berry on Nick’s life 10:15 - Of Nick’s family and upbringing, and tying back to Wendell Berry 15:15 - Nick telling the story of when he “made it,” and how that impacted his work ethic 18:30 - Of the ethos of taking the time to do hard things 23:15 - The impact of a conversation between Nick and Wendell Berry 29:00 - More about Nick’s book, "Where the Deer and the Antelope Play" 42:15 - How Nick discusses serious topics with a lighthearted demeanor 47:30 - How Aldo Leopold influenced Nick 51:45 - A great story about Wendell Berry and the need for artists 55:15 - How and when Nick developed his authenticity  1:02:00 - The two jokes Nick has written in his career 1:05:45 - What good work looks like 1:18:00 - Discussing how to pronounce words and the importance of not passing judgment 1:23:15 - Coming back to “good work” --- ABOUT MOUNTAIN & PRAIRIE: Mountain & Prairie - All Episodes Mountain & Prairie Shop Mountain & Prairie on Instagram Upcoming Events About Ed Roberson Support Mountain & Prairie Leave a Review on Apple Podcasts

Matt Cahill is the Sagebrush Sea Program Director for the Nature Conservancy. Based out of Bend, Oregon, Matt leads all of TNC’s critical work restoring, managing, and protecting sagebrush habitat across six western states. This is a huge and complex effort– it combines protection and policy work with ground-breaking restoration advances, public and industry partnerships, and local community projects. But as you’ll hear in this conversation, Matt is optimistically leaning into the challenge and making great strides to protect this uniquely Western ecosystem. - To give you some context into the vastness of North America’s sagebrush ecosystem, it spans 150 million acres and is home to 350 rare, threatened, and endangered species. Since 1998, 14 million acres of sagebrush ecosystems have been lost, and currently, we’re losing approximately one million acres to invasive species, catastrophic wildfires, development, improper grazing, and climate change. 70% of the Sagebrush Sea is found on public lands, so efforts to protect, manage, and restore the ecosystem are dependent on creative, action-oriented public-private partnerships. Again, Matt is leading a huge and complex effort! - In this episode, we start our conversation by discussing why the Sagebrush Sea is important, and why even people who live far from the ecosystem should care about it. We discuss the history of the threats to sagebrush and do a deep dive into the specific threat of cheatgrass– a true scourge on the landscapes of the West. We discuss the ecology of sagebrush, how TNC measures success when it comes to protecting such a fragile ecosystem, and the importance of partnering with ranchers. We talk about the efficacy of for-profit approaches to restoration, collaboration with government agencies, and specific cutting-edge approaches to restoration. Matt also explains his career trajectory that led him from the East Coast to becoming obsessed with sagebrush, and he offers several great book recommendations. - Be sure to check out the episode notes for links to everything we discuss, including a few videos and writings by Matt that will provide even more context into this nuanced issue. Thanks to Matt and his team for all of their hard work, and thank you for listening. Hope you enjoy. --- Full episode notes and links: https://mountainandprairie.com/matt-cahill --- This episode is brought to you in partnership with the Colorado chapter of The Nature Conservancy. Guided by science and grounded by decades of collaborative partnerships, The Nature Conservancy has a long-standing legacy of achieving lasting results to create a world where nature and people thrive.   On the fourth Tuesday of every month throughout 2023, Mountain & Prairie will be delving into conversations with a wide range of The Nature Conservancy’s leaders, partners, collaborators, and stakeholders, highlighting the myriad of conservation challenges, opportunities, and solutions here in the American West.   To learn more about The Nature Conservancy’s impactful work in Colorado and around the world, visit www.nature.org/colorado --- TOPICS DISCUSSED: 3:30 - Of the Sagebrush Sea 7:45 - Why sagebrush matters 10:30 - The state of the Sagebrush Sea and how it got there 15:15 - Cheatgrass’s impact on the Sagebrush Sea 23:30 - TNC’s Sagebrush Sea program 26:45 - Exploring the restoration aspect of Matt’s work 33:15 - The restoration timeline for sagebrush regions 35:30 - Measuring restoration success 39:00 - The management portion of Matt’s work 41:30 - Matt’s success stories of collaborating with ranchers 46:00 - The land protection (acquisition, easement, etc.) portion of Matt’s work 49:15 - Evaluating the for-profit wing of conservation of sage grouse habitat 43:15 - Discussing TNC’s collaboration across its own programs as well as with government land managers 57:00 - How Matt ended up an expert in sagebrush biomes when he grew up on the East Coast 1:00:30 - Matt’s book recommendations 1:04:00 - Matt’s parting words of wisdom --- ABOUT MOUNTAIN & PRAIRIE: Mountain & Prairie - All Episodes Mountain & Prairie Shop Mountain & Prairie on Instagram Upcoming Events About Ed Roberson Support Mountain & Prairie Leave a Review on Apple Podcasts

James Prosek is an artist, writer, and naturalist whose work deeply examines our relationship with the natural world. Over the course of his career, he’s focused his artist’s eye and philosopher’s mind on everything from trout to eels, from birds to ocean fishes. For the past two years, he’s been focused on understanding and documenting the grasslands of Texas, and he’s traveled the state examining the diverse plants and wildlife that call the prairie ecosystem home. Beginning on September 16, 2023, the results of his journey around Texas will be on display at the Amon Carter Museum of American Art, in his new exhibition titled Trespassers: James Prosek and the Texas Prairie. - James was born in Connecticut and, as you’ll hear in our conversation, much of his childhood was spent obsessed with birds, fish, and fishing. He attended Yale Univesity, where at age 19 he published his first book titled Trout: An Illustrated History, which featured seventy of his watercolor paintings of the trout of North America. From there, his curiosity about the natural world continued to intensify, as evidenced by his prolific production of art and writing for many renowned museums and publications. He has also lent his talents to a variety of conservation efforts, most notably his partnership with Yvon Chionard to protect coldwater fisheries habitat. - James and I share many mutual friends and interests, so it was wonderful to connect with him for this conversation. It’ll only take you a few minutes of listening to realize that James is a deep thinker whose art is the manifestation of his extremely nuanced and fascinating ideas and philosophies. We started out talking about his first memory of interacting with nature, and how he has used drawing and journaling as tools to better understand plants, animals, and concepts. We discuss how the idea of naming plants and animals is an imperfect science, how drawing connects us with our evolutionary past, how philosophy and philosophical thinking inform all of his art, grasslands in Texas, the importance of understanding and respecting place, how James snaps out of creative slumps, his writing process, and he offers plenty of book recommendations. - As is the case with so many of my guests, I could’ve talked to James for many more hours. So thankfully, this conversation is part one of what will be a two-episode series with James. The second episode will be a live event at the Amon Carter Museum of American Art, on Thursday, January 11, 2024. We’ll be continuing this conversation, and we’ll be focusing in more detail on his exploration of the Texas Prairie and his new exhibition, Trespassers. We’ll be releasing more information about this event soon, but I’d love to see some of you at the event in Fort Worth on January 11. - A huge thank you to James for his inspiring art, to the Amon Carter Museum for the opportunity to chat with James, and to all of you for listening. Enjoy! --- James Prosek Trespassers: James Prosek and the Texas Prairie James on Instagram --- TOPICS DISCUSSED: 3:15 - James’ first memory of interacting with nature 7:00 - When journaling and drawing became standard practices for James 10:15 - James’ view on drawing and its connection to our evolutionary past as hunters  15:15 - How drawing fish made James a better angler 20:45 - How names affect our thinking about other organisms 24:15 - The art that James engaged in parallel to fishing 28:00 - How James sharpens his philosophy  39:45 - James’ writing process 43:00 - How James establishes connections with places 1:00:15 - Whether or not James has gone through an artistic slump 1:10:00 - James’ parting words of wisdom --- ABOUT MOUNTAIN & PRAIRIE: Mountain & Prairie - All Episodes Mountain & Prairie Shop Mountain & Prairie on Instagram Upcoming Events About Ed Roberson Support Mountain & Prairie Leave a Review on Apple Podcasts

Montana-based butcher, chef, and writer Anna Borgman discusses her passion for helping people understand the origins of their food. They talk about her childhood in Oregon, her devotion to skiing, her journey through culinary school, and her obsession with her work. They also discuss the importance of having a passion in life, the value of continuous learning and changing one's mind, and overcoming fear and embracing challenges. Borgman shares her experiences in culinary school, working at a butcher shop in Amsterdam, and her passion project Forage Fed.

Carrie Segil is the People and Culture Manager at The Nature Conservancy in Colorado, and Duncan Gilchrist is a Climate and Natural Resources Policy Associate at The Nature Conservancy in Colorado. Both Carrie and Duncan are deeply involved with TNC Colorado’s Catalyst Fund, a cutting-edge conservation funding initiative that supports forward-looking projects that enable innovation and rapid learning, both to test new ideas and to build greater capacity for innovation over the long term. - One of the Catalyst Fund’s most notable projects involves agrivoltaics, which is the simultaneous use of land for both solar energy production and agriculture. The project is called the Agrivoltaics Retrofit Partnership, and it’s a Boulder-based partnership between TNC, Jack’s Solar Garden, Drylands Agroecology Research, Boulder Housing Partners, and a conservation-justice / community outreach partner called FLOWS. The project aims to achieve multiple conservation and community objectives, including restoring degraded land, producing perennial plants with medicinal, economic, and indigenous cultural value, and providing a host of benefits to local marginalized community members– benefits that we discuss in this episode. - In this episode, we talk in detail about this specific agrivoltaics project, as well as some of the other innovative projects that are being pushed forward thanks to support from the Catalyst Fund. We discussed how and why TNC Colorado decided to create the Catalyst Fund in the first place, and the need to push boundaries and take risks in the conservation space. Carrie offers insights into specific Catalyst projects, such as virtual fencing for bison, and Duncan discusses all the details about this agrivoltaics project– including the genesis of the idea, the challenges of the projects, and why it has proven to be so successful and replicable. We also discuss how policy on the state and federal level is creating more opportunities for agrivoltaics, why it garners bipartisan support, and lessons learned from all of the Catalyst Fund projects. - I was so impressed with Carrie and Duncan’s enthusiasm, professionalism, and commitment to innovation, and I learned so much from this conversation. Be sure to check out the episode notes to learn more about everything we discussed, and please share this episode with any friends or colleagues who might find it valuable.  Thanks so much for listening, I hope you enjoy!   --- Full episode notes and links: https://mountainandprairie.com/catalyst/ --- This episode is brought to you in partnership with the Colorado chapter of The Nature Conservancy. Guided by science and grounded by decades of collaborative partnerships, The Nature Conservancy has a long-standing legacy of achieving lasting results to create a world where nature and people thrive. On the fourth Tuesday of every month throughout 2023, Mountain & Prairie will be delving into conversations with a wide range of The Nature Conservancy’s leaders, partners, collaborators, and stakeholders, highlighting the myriad of conservation challenges, opportunities, and solutions here in the American West. To learn more about The Nature Conservancy’s impactful work in Colorado and around the world, visit www.nature.org/colorado --- TOPICS DISCUSSED: 3:30 - An overview of the Catalyst Fund 7:00 - Talking to funders about the Catalyst Fund 8:45 - How TNC evaluates what it is looking for regarding the Catalyst Fund 10:30 - Duncan’s agrivoltaics project 12:45 - Duncan’s job before his agrivoltaics project 14:45 - More on Duncan’s project and his site 19:00 - About Boulder Housing Partners, and how they reacted to Duncan’s idea 20:30 - How Duncan worked to turn the rocky land he is working into agricultural land 22:30 - The outlook for Duncan’s project, and how it stacks up against his expectations 25:00 - The federal and state (CO) push for more projects like Duncan’s 28:00 - Why agrivoltaics seems to garner bipartisan support 29:30 - Why everyone isn’t doing agrivoltaics  31:30 - The potential for grazing under agrivoltaics 32:30 - Other synergies between solar energy and agriculture 33:30 - Carrie’s outlook on Duncan’s project, and some other projects funded by the Catalyst Fund 36:45 - What it’s like for TNC to work with external partners 37:45 - Other projects funded through the Catalyst Funds 40:00 - Big lessons from the Catalyst Fund project 45:00 - The power of advocating for policy 47:15 - Where the Catalyst Fund is going 51:00 - Carrie and Duncan’s book recommendations 53:45 - Closing thoughts --- ABOUT MOUNTAIN & PRAIRIE: Mountain & Prairie - All Episodes Mountain & Prairie Shop Mountain & Prairie on Instagram Upcoming Events About Ed Roberson Support Mountain & Prairie Leave a Review on Apple Podcasts

Renowned Montana novelist David James Duncan discusses his love for land, water, and wildlife at the Old Salt Festival. He reflects on the influence of wise women mentors and the Beguines communities, talks about writing powerful and extensive books, and finds hope in small actions. He also explores the journey of reflection and belonging in Montana.

This is the 200th episode of Mountain & Prairie, so I decided to celebrate the milestone by bringing back the first-ever M&P guest, my good friend Erik Glenn. Erik is the Executive Director of the Colorado Cattlemen’s Agricultural Land Trust, a statewide conservation organization that protects Colorado's agricultural land, heritage, and families for future generations by conserving working rural landscapes. Erik is also the President of the Partnership of Rangeland Trusts, a collection of nine ag-based, western land trusts who work together to “advocate for the conservation of working lands and western heritage for the benefit and wellbeing of future generations.” - When Erik and I spoke for episode number one all the way back in the spring of 2016, he was only about a year into his role as Executive Director. At that point, the organization had conserved just over 465,000 acres of land in Colorado. Fast forward seven and a half years to today, Erik and his team have added an additional 300,000 acres of conserved land, bringing the total to more than 765,000 acres. But most importantly, CCALT has served as a loyal and trusted partner for more than 400 agricultural families who are deeply committed to conserving Colorado’s western heritage and working landscapes. - I consider Erik a great friend and a wise mentor, and if not for his kindness, encouragement, and counsel, I doubt there would be a Mountain & Prairie, nor would I have ever worked in the conservation world. We sat down at his office in Lakewood and caught up on everything, including: how Erik spurs innovation without losing sight of the basics of land conservation; his thoughts on building culture and retaining the best team members; balancing his own intense work ethic with his desire set reasonable-yet-high expectations for his team; how having kids has changed him; the growth of PORT; his mentors; the evolution of the perception of conservation easements in the ag community; threats and opportunities; book recommendations; and much more. - A big thanks to Erik for letting me use him as a guinea pig for the first episode back in 2016, and for his willingness to join me again for episode 200. But more importantly, thanks to Erik for his leadership and commitment to conservation in Colorado, the West, and beyond. Hope you enjoy! --- Erik Glenn Colorado Cattlemen's Agricultural Land Trust Partnership of Rangeland Trusts Complete episode notes & links: https://mountainandprairie.com/erik-glenn-2/ Support M&P on Patreon -- TOPICS DISCUSSED: 3:30 - What the Colorado Cattlemen's Agricultural Land Trust is 11:00 - How Erik balances innovation with the basics of conservation 15:30 - Implementing a culture in the workplace 23:30 - Balancing his work ethic with the desire to not set unreasonable work expectations for his team 29:30 - How having kids impacted Erik 35:45 - Discussing PORT 46:00 - Discussing whether or not good conservation tools have become good business tools for land owners  50:00 - Erik’s mentors 58:00 - The biggest threat and opportunity facing conservation 1:10:30 - Erik’s book recommendations 1:13:30 - Parting words --- ABOUT MOUNTAIN & PRAIRIE: Mountain & Prairie - All Episodes Mountain & Prairie Shop Mountain & Prairie on Instagram Upcoming Events About Ed Roberson Support Mountain & Prairie Leave a Review on Apple Podcasts

In this shed session, the host answers the common question of how to get a job in the conservation world. Topics covered include the importance of building relationships, networking, and understanding success metrics. The podcast also explores personal journeys and transitions into conservation, while discussing the pros and cons of working in the nonprofit conservation field. Book recommendations for personal and professional growth are also provided.

Lorelei Cloud is a member of the Southern Ute Indian Tribe and currently serves as Vice Chairman of the Southern Ute Indian Tribal Council. Lorelei’s commitment to conservation, leadership development, and Ute language, traditions, and culture is evident by the staggering number of leadership roles she holds– she is Co-Chairman of the Indigenous Women’s Leadership Network, a Board Trustee for the Nature Conservancy, and serves on the Colorado River Basin’s Water & Tribes Initiative. Earlier this year, she was appointed by the Governor of Colorado to serve on the Colorado Water Conservation Board, making her the first-ever Tribal member of the board. - Lorelei was born and raised on the Southern Ute Reservation, which is located in the far southwestern corner of Colorado. From the very beginning, water has played a central role in Lorelei’s life– much of her childhood was spent without running water and access to drinking water continues to be a challenge on the Reservation to this day. Much of Lorelei’s early career was spent working in various businesses, including banking and energy, all while being a mother and raising four children. In 2015, she was elected to the Tribal Council, which began this new phase of her life and career– a phase devoted to serving her Tribal Community, as well as the communities, landscapes, and natural resources of the American West. - I’ve been hearing such great things about Lorelei for years, so I was honored to have the opportunity to chat with her on the podcast. We enjoyed a wide-ranging conversation about her upbringing on the Southern Ute Reservation, the history of the Southern Ute Tribe, her recent appointment to the CWCB, why she decided to devote herself to public service, the goals of the Indigenous Women’s Leadership Network, her work with the Nature Conservancy, the need to elevate Tribal voices on issues of water and land conservation in the West and beyond, advice for aspiring leaders, her favorite books, ways the listeners can get involved and support the work of the Southern Ute Tribe, and much more. - Be sure to check out the episode notes for a full list of topics discussed and links to everything. A huge thanks to Lorelei for taking the time out of her busy schedule to talk with me and for her deep commitment to doing such impactful work in Colorado and beyond. Enjoy! --- Lorelei Cloud Southern Ute Indian Tribe Colorado Water Conservation Board Full episode notes and links: https://mountainandprairie.com/lorelei-cloud/ --- This episode is brought to you in partnership with the Colorado chapter of The Nature Conservancy. Guided by science and grounded by decades of collaborative partnerships, The Nature Conservancy has a long-standing legacy of achieving lasting results to create a world where nature and people thrive. On the fourth Tuesday of every month throughout 2023, Mountain & Prairie will be delving into conversations with a wide range of The Nature Conservancy’s leaders, partners, collaborators, and stakeholders, highlighting the myriad of conservation challenges, opportunities, and solutions here in the American West. To learn more about The Nature Conservancy’s impactful work in Colorado and around the world, visit www.nature.org/colorado --- TOPICS DISCUSSED: 3:30 - Lorelei’s youth on the Southern Ute Reservation 6:15 - How Lorelei’s family would get water 8:15 - Lorelei’s childhood personality, school years, and early jobs 13:30 - Whether or not Lorelei wanted to stay on the reservation 15:30 - A brief Ute history 19:00 - How Lorelei’s appointment as the first Indigenous representative on the CWCB 22:15 - What the CWCB does 27:30 - How Lorelei decided to pursue public service 30:15 - About the Indigenous Women’s Leadership Network 34:00 - Lorelei’s advice for aspiring leaders 36:15 - Lorelei’s mentors 40:30 - About Lorelei’s role as Vice Chairman of the Southern Ute Tribe 43:00 - How Lorelei became involved with TNC and how she evaluates whether or not to pursue a professional opportunity 48:15 - Whether or not Deb Haaland has elevated Tribal voices through her work 52:00 - Lorelei’s book recommendations 55:00 - How you can help Lorelei’s work 56:00 - Lorelei’s words of wisdom --- ABOUT MOUNTAIN & PRAIRIE: Mountain & Prairie - All Episodes Mountain & Prairie Shop Mountain & Prairie on Instagram Upcoming Events About Ed Roberson Support Mountain & Prairie Leave a Review on Apple Podcasts