

By-The-Bywater: A Podcast about All Things J.R.R. Tolkien
Jared Pechaček, Oriana Scwindt, and Ned Raggett
All things J.R.R. Tolkien: his work, his inspirations and impact, creative interpretations in other media, languages, lore, ripoffs, parodies, anything we think is interesting!
Episodes
Mentioned books

Nov 3, 2020 • 57min
20. She Does It All!
Jared, Oriana and Ned talk about Oriana’s choice of topic: Éowyn. As
likely the most prominent character in The Lord of the Rings who’s a woman—and
certainly the most prominent human woman, hands down—Éowyn and her journey in
the story always has a central position in any discussion of the book, someone
who grapples with any number of personal disasters and wider societal
expectations to end up playing a key role in the book’s epic arc. At the same
time, her final choices after that shattering confrontation with the Lord of
the Nazgûl have led to questioning about whether she should be seen as a
feminist icon, something that Tolkien’s own personal views on women further
indelibly complicate. Were Tolkien’s own stated views on what he thought about
women and society conditional, potentially subject to change possibly even
depending on his perception of his audience? Is Éowyn a total outlier in her
society and world or is what she does something potentially more broadly
understood and accepted? Are the choices she makes towards the end of the book
a return to an expected role for her in a patriarchal world, or are they
reflective of her gaining a deeper understanding of herself and what her own
desires and needs are no matter what others might think? And what do we all
think about that moment when her hair and Faramir’s flow together in the wind
as they stand on Minas Tirith’s walls awaiting the moment of doom? (We love
it, of course.)
Show Notes.
Jared’s
doodle,
inspired by Scythian art and fashions.
Now that’s how to win an election!
J. A. Bayona says a half-way
point in filming has been reached.
(Half-way of what specifically, thought?)
New Zealand-based film and TV
production
continues to be on a major roll.
Ismael Cruz Córdova, a talented and sharp fellow, we’d say.
Éowyn’s Tolkien Gateway entry.
That moment in Peter Jackson’s The Return of the King? You know
it.
Tolkien’s Letter 43 to his son
Michael says a lot about his viewpoints on the genders in 1941. Quite a lot.
Our episode on magic, where
(conceptual) space was discussed.
We’re not steeped enough in the scholarship to say what would be good
discussions about Éowyn and feminism—but there sure are a lot of Google
results.
The Rankin-Bass-via-Topcraft Éowyn is
striking,
no lie. Here’s their version of the confrontation
scene.
We didn’t mention it but there’s been recent work on the question of women’s
roles in Viking societies that could be applicable.
The Jackson extended Two Towers scene with the
stew. (Still thinking that looks
like shrimp.)
The art may be rough in this portrayal but that atop the walls moment with the hair and the hands? It’s
lovely.
Twin Peaks: The
Return is very David
Lynch. Freddie Sykes aka
the guy with the glove, that’s a subject of
discussion.
Our Erendis and
Andreth-related episodes.
The Valkyrie are not unknown, to put
it mildly. Neither are Boudica and
Morgan le Fay.
A depiction of Éowyn in front of Meduseld in
armor
as in the book. The Jackson
version of a similar
moment
is different but no less vivid.
Alan Lee’s depiction of
Éowyn and Aragorn and the cup of parting.
“Courage, Merry.” When Jackson
and his team got the interpreting of the material right, they got it
perfectly.
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Oct 12, 2020 • 1h 3min
19. A More Robust Line of Succession.
Jared, Oriana and Ned talk about Ned’s choice of topic: Boromir, Faramir and
Denethor. Uniquely in The Lord of the Rings, the fractured family dynamic
between the Steward of Gondor and his two heirs is also one of politics on a
grand scale, with all three reacting to the growing threat to the land they
rule or are heirs to as well as trusting to a slim hope of salvation. But, of
course, how each of them views that slim hope and what has to be done to see
it come true is its own issue that divides them further. What does it mean
when it’s said that the blood of Numenor runs true in Faramir and Denethor but
not Boromir? Is Faramir himself maybe too much of a ‘good boy,’ a paladin in
all but name, given the circumstances he and his land find themselves in? Do
the three members of the family hearken back to the kind of feelings and
sentiments that Tolkien may have seen as a young officer in World War I, on
the same side but not in total alignment? Is Boromir and his dilemma served
better as a character in Peter Jackson’s adaptation more than in the original
text itself? And are Denethor’s final acts of despair, seen by Tolkien as one
of the worst things someone can do to others and oneself, possibly a
misunderstanding of what depression can be?
Show Notes.
Jared’s
Doodle really
captures the subject perfectly.
They’re fully filming again in New Zealand. Isn’t it wonderful when a society actually
has a plan and sticks to it?
Morfydd Clark continues to give good interview quotes.
Nudes, nudes,
nudes. We
won’t link all the pieces in response, they are too many and mostly boring.
Denethor via Tolkien Gateway, and
more about Boromir and
Faramir there too of course.
Jingoism — it’s not a good look.
Our imperialism episode, where we
talked some about Gondor as a society/polity.
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Sep 11, 2020 • 1h 6min
18. Speak Softly and Be a Big Stick.
Jared, Oriana and Ned talk about Jared’s choice of topic: the Ents. Like
many elements of The Lord of the Rings, Treebeard appeared suddenly in the
course of Tolkien actually writing it, and he himself wondered more about the
unusual creation he had introduced to his already long-standing legendarium
and how it fit within the whole. But whatever the impulse, Treebeard and his
people, seemingly the last defenders of a vanished world of trees and forests,
became one of the most beloved in the entirety of the book, though also one of
the most curious and, as the story clearly shows, even alien. What were some
of the impulses and feelings that went into Tolkien’s creation of the Ents,
and how much of them were based on a particular perception or assumption of
natural history rather than reality? How do the Ents regard the others in the
world they share, and what are their priorities? How does the specifically
gendered world of the Ents and the Entwives function as we know it, and how
does it either reconfirm or perhaps upend perceived stereotypes on that front?
What impulses of the Ents’ demonstrated capacity for almost terrifying
violence in defense of their world suggest for ours, whether it be the dark
spectre of ecofascism or the feeling of righteous rage against a broken
socioeconomic system’s environmental fallout? And will Jared’s attempt to
destroy us right at the start with a truly terrible pun succeed?
Show Notes.
Jared’s
Doodle, a
lovely and mysterious portrait.
Gennifer Hutchison being clear she has nothing to
share about the Amazon TV series.
Maybe Kaya Scodelario is on that TV series
now, maybe not, who knows…
I mean who could blame Hugo Weaving at this point.
Look if you really want to follow news of this Gollum video
game, fine by us.
A useful Ent summary via Tolkien
Gateway. And don’t forget the Huorns.
Beyond Bree is still around, and long may
they thrive!
The recent Tides of History episode by Patrick Wyman
mentioning how the ancient primeval forests of Europe aren’t THAT ancient,
comparatively.
The article Jared read on a related subject: “The Lost Forest Gardens of
Europe”
There are approximately eight million artistic depictions of
Treebeard
out there. But do any of them truly work? We leave that up to you.
The Entish language is its own
mystery.
(Hawaiian is not, and is
very much worthy of its own separate study if you’re interested.)
Treebeard’s speaking voice being modeled on C.S. Lewis is another part of
Lewis and Tolkien’s lengthy, complex
relationship.
The fate of the Entwives, as well
as the specific gender split in the species’s goals and drives, is at once
forcefully clear and sadly mysterious. Here’s a piece reflecting on it all
some more, including such details as the curious sighting of
a ‘walking’ tree in the Shire. (Per Oriana’s comparison, here’s the episode we
did on Aldarion and Erendis.)
Quickbeam, a favorite of ours.
Pity he didn’t make the film specifically.
So how do plants break down rocks and things anyway? There are answers of
course.
You’re more than welcome to read about Tom Cruise and Katie
Holmes. But not while listening to us, surely.
We did indeed have a few thoughts about
Galadriel last year.
Frankly the Treegarth of
Orthanc seems like it
would be a lovely place to visit.
Don’t be an ecofascist, it’s not a good look.
Quiet is disappearing, but there are attempts
otherwise.
There are indeed Ent-draught
recipes. Like this one. Or you could try the CBD
cocktail. (And here was our
episode on magic.)
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Aug 10, 2020 • 1h 2min
17. A Bad Thing That Bad People Do.
Jared, Oriana and Ned discuss Oriana’s choice of topic: imperialism. As a literal citizen of the British Empire at birth in a colonial holding of what would eventually become South Africa, Tolkien’s life was directly shaped by both the seeming omnipresence of empire and its simultaneous retreat and reshaping over the course of his life. But while his creative work shows many strains of considering what an empire is and how imperialism could be seen in it, his own personal unease with empire shows in views that are complicated in many ways. What does his legendarium show as examples of empire, and are they uniform in nature? How does Tolkien conceive of a political polity like Gondor in terms of both its history and functioning as an heir to empire? What are the exact contrasts between human empires and inhuman ones such as Sauron’s, and how does Tolkien use fantasy to heighten the contrasts? What forms of empire exist through the history of Middle-earth, from linguistic to political to economic? And in a time in the real world when statues have been falling, why did Gondor love that monument in Umbar of Númenor’s simultaneous greatest triumph and spark of its absolute destruction?
Show Notes.
Jared’s doodle. “Sailing, sailing, over the ocean main…”
Take Your Pick! Check out our collective appearance on an episode last month where we did the ultimate Lord of the Rings fancast.
TheOneRing.net’s Twitter summary of the Amazon series news from SDCC. Also, enjoy an article featuring one of the cast members that says literally nothing about what’s going on.
Beyoncé’s Black is King is very much on Disney+—speaking of empires.
The 2000s Battlestar Galactica wasn’t perfect, maybe leaned a little too much into recentish American history in general for beats and imagery, but absolutely aimed for a still too rare depiction of a refugee society where instead of ‘good triumphs over evil’ everything slowly but surely falls apart over time.
Episode 7 on Ghân-buri-Ghân, with some discussion of empire’s impact and colonialism.
Merriam-Webster on imperialism. There you go.
The British Empire’s afterechoes continue to reverberate.
David Foster Wallace’s “This is Water” speech.
Totalitarianism—it’s not imperialism but you can see where one can be a subset of the other.
Esperanto. The speakers are out there.
Episode 4 on Aldarion and Erendis, plus the initial origins of the Númenorean empire.
Umbar! We did misremember the details in our chat, but the monument there of Sauron’s submission to Ar-Pharazôn was first put up not by the remnant of evil Númenoreans but by Gondor itself. Making the monument’s existence even more complicated!
Faramir’s full thoughts on Minas Tirith and empire: “‘For myself,’ said Faramir, ‘I would see the White Tree in flower again in the courts of the kings, and the Silver Crown return, and Minas Tirith in peace: Minas Anor again as of old, full of light, high and fair, beautiful as a queen among other queens: not a mistress of many slaves, nay, not even a kind mistress of willing slaves. War must be, while we defend our lives against a destroyer who would devour all; but I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend: the city of the Men of Númenor; and I would have her loved for her memory, her ancientry, her beauty, and her present wisdom. Not feared, save as men may fear the dignity of a man, old and wise.‘“
Imrahil and Dol Amroth—we’d still would love to know more about all that.
The Byzantine Empire had military themes. Quite a few of them.
The Athenian Empire aka the Delian League.
The British Raj, also the reason why the British Empire can be called that in the first place. (As Oriana mentions later, she’s currently reading The Anarchy, a book about the East India Company and the ultimate origins of the Raj.)
The Kin-strife is another one of those things that we know a little about, but clearly there was a lot more there.
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Jul 9, 2020 • 1h 25min
16. Turn Off the Dark Lord.
Jared, Oriana and Ned talk about Ned’s choice of topic: the Lord of the
Rings stage musical. Growing out of a failed German attempt to stage a
version of The Hobbit in 1997 and eventually turning into a high level and
high budget production that ran in Toronto in 2006 and London in 2007, the
musical attracted both a lot of attention and a lot of talent, from future
Tony winners to regular standbys on the London stage and beyond, not to
mention a remarkable combination of composer A.R. Rahman and the Finnish avant
garde folk group Värttinä on the music itself. And yet, in the end, it was a
flop in both of its incarnations, not making back the considerable investment
made into it, and it’s essentially disappeared now. What can we make about
what the production was like from the scattered bits of evidence that’s
available online or in print? What elements about it succeed and which other
ones needed much more work? Is it worth reclaiming in the end or is it
something that was simply an attempt that didn’t work? And above all else, why
in the world are the songs almost entirely unmemorable?
Show Notes.
Jared’s
doodle,
putting the ‘leg’ in Legolas.
Take Your Pick! Do please join us for the
ultimate Tolkien fancast episode on July 18th, or catch up with the webcast
later if needed. (And hey, subscribe to Megaphonic’s YouTube
channel while you’re at it?)
By all means listen in for the Tolkien content in Episode 72 of It’s Just a
Show, but explore the whole series!
It’s marvellous, as is the show it loves and talks about in detail.
The news about The Nature of Middle-earth
is absolutely major.
Do check out Vinyar Tengwar! It’s a wonderful
publication.
HarperCollins’s
announcement
about Andy Serkis’s new audiobook of The Hobbit.
Variety’s news story confirming that Amazon’s series as well as other
productions are good to go again in New Zealand.
The Daily Mail’s
interview
with Morfydd Clark.
The new casting
announcement for
extras for the Amazon series.
Peter Jackson’s fond memories of Ian
Holm. (Brian
Sibley
had some good thoughts too.)
The archived
website
of the stage musical.
Gary Russell’s official ‘companion’
book to the musical can be found via tons of second-hand
sellers and remains the key source of information for the history of the
entire production.
A B-roll of scenes from the
Toronto production.
The New York Times’s review of the Toronto
production...wasn’t thrilled.
The National Geographic
documentary about
the London staging of the musical.
An official ‘behind the scenes’
video from the London
production.
The New York Times once
more, on the run
up to the London staging.
A (London) Times
piece
also on the run up.
Scenes from the London
production.
The 2007 episode of the UK podcast Musical
Talk about the London
production, literally recorded in the audience between acts and after it
ended. (A great on-the-spot listen!)
The
Guardian
wasn’t taken by it. (The same reviewer had given the Toronto
one
a chance.)
TheOneRing.net provided a very helpful
breakdown about what was changed or altered from the
book in the London staging, along with a couple of comparative notes to the
Toronto one.
News
from when the London production wrapped up. (And a fan
tribute -- there are fans of
this musical, no lie!)
The London cast recording is streaming in various locations (like this
one).
Do yourself a huge favor and check out A. R. Rahman’s
work.
Similarly, Värttinä will never steer you wrong.
(As Jared recommends, give an ear to their 2000 album
Ilmatar
sometime.)
Laura Michelle Kelly, to give her full
name, continues to thrive on the stage in both the UK and the US after her
stint spinning through the air and singing as Galadriel (though like all of us
is currently waiting everything out).
Jason Robert Brown would have been great for
this. But alas.
Rob Howell has gone from strength
to strength since this production, picking up two Tonys for design among other
honors.
Hamilton! You’ve heard
of it, we’re willing to bet.
Michael Thierrault’s thoughts
on playing Gollum onstage in both productions is worth a watch.
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Jun 12, 2020 • 1h
15. A Weird Faerie Sex Game.
Jared, Oriana and Ned talk about Jared’s choice of topic: Sir Gawain and the
Green Knight and Tolkien’s posthumously published translation of said poem.
Written around 1400 by a still anonymous author in the West Midlands region of
England, Sir Gawain has long been one of the most notable works of late
medieval English literature, and Tolkien both worked on a scholarly edition of
the poem with his colleague E.V. Gordon first published in 1925 as well as
developing the translation which he finished in the early 1950s, and which has
since become his most well-known work on the text. What possible influence on
Tolkien’s own work can be found in the poem—or is there any real influence as
such at all? What could be the significance of the seemingly contrasting
elements of fairy story, chivalry and blunt, almost documentary-like detailing
of hunting procedures? What was Tolkien aiming for with his own particular
translation and how does it differ from others? And maybe above all else: how
DO you pronounce Gawain’s name, much less spell it?
Show Notes.
Jared’s
doodle for
the episode. I mean, you might as well go for it.
Black Lives Matter and there it is.
Anyway yes, Samuel R. Delany! Octavia E.
Butler! N. K. Jemisin!
Marlon James! Zetta
Elliott! Many many many more besides. Why deny
yourself great writing?
As for, shall we say, militarized police forces in non-Shire settings,
there’s plenty of reading out
there.
The ramping up of filming in New Zealand is
happening, not without various questions and concerns, but we’ll see where it
goes.
Print-to-order hardback History of Middle-earth books? Go
nuts.
There is a LOT of scholarship out there on Sir Gawain and the Green
Knight and
we’re not going to pretend to be able to give a proper survey of it. If you’d
like to see the original untranslated text, though, here you
go, and if
you want more on spelling and (maybe) pronunciation, a starting point is
here.
Here’s Luke Shelton’s post about how the name Tulkas, one of
the Valar, may be derived from the Sir Gawain poem.
Courtly love? Oh there’s a lot
out there about that too.
A Distant Mirror by Barbara Tuchman is indeed a cracking read.
Patrick Wyman’s Tides of History is a very enjoyable podcast for sure. Some of the specific episodes
covering the period of English history the Gawain poet lived in have
apparently passed out from being available for whatever reason, but
these
episodes
in
particular make for informative
listening and for scholarly recommendations.
The Green Chapel is very clearly a neolithic site, as evidenced by the
Newgrange site in Ireland.
There is indeed an official audiobook version of Tolkien’s
translation, read by medievalist and Monty Python cast member
Terry Jones.
Alternate translations noted by Jared: Bernard
O’Donoghue’s and Simon
Armitage’s.
E.R. Eddison was indeed a skilled writer. But,
as they say, a caution. Tolkien’s assessment of him, positive and negative,
can be found quoted at the end of this short
piece.
The Matter of Britain is
ultimately rather French.
Tolkien’s The Fall of Arthur is an interesting experiment, if incomplete.
The Gawain Poet’s identity is
still up for debate.
The history of hunting in England is rather extensive. Leave it to the Daily
Telegraph to review a book about
it back in 2007. (Thankfully not everyone is
fond of the sport’s modern
incarnation.)
Homoeroticism in Sir Gawain? You don’t
say!
Turns out there are three film versions of Sir Gawain—the
first,
from 1973, was remade into 1984’s Sword of the
Valiant by the same
director one decade later, but yeah, Miles O’Keeffe and Sean Connery and
company don’t exactly stick the landing. In the meantime, we await A24 and
Dev Patel.
Some Order of the Garter info if you need it.
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May 7, 2020 • 1h 4min
14. But...Faramir! He’s such a good boy!
Jared, Oriana and Ned talk about Oriana’s choice of topic: Tolkien
adaptations! Reworking stories in one form or medium of art into another is
pretty much part of human history in general and Tolkien’s creations, even in
the modern world of copyright and licensing, are no different. Everyone knows
about the Peter Jackson Lord of the Rings movies, sure, but there’s been
plenty of other adaptations done and there will be more to come—and the
questions of how and why (and more) continue to be relevant. We’ll talk more
about specific artworks and productions in the future but this is a general
introduction to a big part of how Tolkien’s work is understood by a wider
public in recent decades. What are some of our favorite adaptations in any
medium? What adaptations of Tolkien’s work would we like to see happen, if
money wasn’t an object? What are the key elements of any adaptation that have
to be included in order to stay true to Tolkien’s core themes and approaches?
And could it simply be the case that we’ve reached a point where there’s too
much adapting of Tolkien—or too much attention to it—than is needed when so
many newer creative voices are coming to the fore?
Show Notes.
Jared’s
doodle for
the episode. Who says the Valar have to look like humans?
New Zealand’s change of state of emergency to Level
3 is a great sign for
sure, but the road is long.
The Tom Shippey
rumors...remain just that.
Timothy and Samuel West’s version of Beren and
Luthien
is out (and here’s their Fall of Gondolin).
I mean...the Peter Jackson Lord of the Rings
trilogy
is KINDA well-known.
The Rankin-Bass
Hobbit really does
deserve more attention. Here’s a great
essay about it from a couple of years ago.
The theater Ned saw the Jackson films at was the Big
Newport. And it is
big.
That specific FoxTrot
strip Ned
mentioned (forty-hour film rather than twenty, but you get the idea).The
entire series of strips is
here.
David Lynch’s Dune is a
fascinating, weird film. Good...not really. But fascinating and weird.
Fans were arguing about the ‘character assassination’ of Faramir in Jackson’s
Lord of the Rings pretty much straight out of the
gate. And yes those
words were used.
Ursula K. Le Guin’s merciless
vivisection of the thoroughly terrible live-action adaptation of A Wizard
of Earthsea is just another reminder about why she was one of America’s
greatest authors. And yes, the Studio Ghibli
version isn’t great shakes, dragon design aside. Third
time’s the charm with A24?
Dorothy Dunnett forever.
P. C.
Hodgell’s
God Stalk and Dark of the Moon were mindblowers for a teenage Ned.
N. K. Jemisin, total hero. And yes The Fifth Season
is supposedly still in the works for TNT.
The name Ned was trying to say and stumbling over is Nnedi
Okorafor, and he should know better. As of last
year, Who Fears Death is still being adapted for HBO.
The David Wenzel-illustrated graphic
novel of
The Hobbit is really, truly wonderful. (And it did come back into print in
2001, not 2012!) Oddly enough the cover art there doesn’t really equate to
what’s inside. Various interviews with Wenzel are around; here’s a solid
short one from a few years ago.
Jared does indeed have good reason for
boosting comic/graphic art in general. Subscribe!
Saul Zaentz’s Tolkien Enterprises is now Middle-earth
Enterprises. And
they’re not letting THAT go any time soon.
Here’s that Tom Shippey
interview from last year.
The viral
tweet about
having to compete with Tolkien and other ‘dead guys’ on fantasy bookshelves.
Cassandra Khaw’s official site.
Various editions of the BBC Radio adaptation of The Lord of the
Rings
have been released—here’s a breakdown of a more recent
version.
Ned’s Quietus piece on Bakshi’s The Lord of the
Rings and other Tolkien adaptations of the late 1970s and early 1980s.
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Apr 10, 2020 • 1h 22min
13. That’s Why You Have Scrolls!
Jared, Oriana and Ned talk about Ned’s choice of topic: Dennis L.
McKiernan’s Silver Call Duology! Originally conceived in the late seventies
and then published in the eighties, it is clearly meant to be a sequel to The
Lord of the Rings in practically every aspect but name. Or rather, names, a
lot of which are infelicitous at best, to Ned’s amusement and Jared and
Oriana’s loud annoyance, in this, our longest episode so far. (Also, frankly,
our sweariest—not constantly, but those with younger household members should
take a little care!) Is this the most (excessively) detailed, formally
published fanwork ever in terms of Tolkien? Why in the world is there an elf
character named Shannon? Did McKiernan have any real sense about how poetry
works, much less invented languages? (And what’s with his apostrophes?) How
does McKiernan’s work slot in among the other post-Tolkien fantasies of its
time and place? Exactly how many analogs to the Orcs are there, and why are
they then named so many different ways—without vowels? Is there in fact an
actually intriguing part to anything in the story? And above all else, exactly
why is the character of Cotton so incredibly annoying?
Show Notes.
Jared’s
doodle for
the episode. That really is the best part of the whole story.
The Amazon series
shutdown,
as originally reported by the NZ Herald.
That...odd...tweet
from the Amazon Lord of the Rings Twitter account.
TheOneRing.net’s report on the death of Andrew
Jack and tributes
from various castmembers from Peter Jackson’s Lord of the Rings films.
Oriana’s old Vox piece on
languages and filming.
BluBlockers! Don’t say you
don’t remember.
Dennis L. McKiernan’s site. Based on a Twitter
post from a few
months ago, we fully appreciate his views on current world leaders, shall we
say.
Post-Tolkien fantasy is indeed a thing and a term. (And there’s much more
discussion out there.)
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Mar 17, 2020 • 1h 5min
12. Things You Can Snag Your Mind On.
Jared, Oriana and Ned talk about Jared’s choice of topic: fanwork! Whether
fiction, artwork, music or more, fanwork as we understand it in modern decades
has strong partial roots in Tolkien’s explosion of American popularity in the
1960s, and beyond any official adaptations or variants is a vast universe of
creativity, successful or perhaps less so. What are the lines between general
artistic interpretation and ‘fanwork’ as such, especially in the history of
Western culture in particular? How is the stereotype of fanwork being grounded
in slash scenarios and headcanon shaped by wider perceptions? Could Tolkien’s
own creative work with languages and stories be fanwork in its own right? And
what is it with all those metal bands who really really really love taking
their names from The Lord of the Rings? Oh and by the way, filksongs! We
talked about them briefly too...but you can only hear that discussion if you
subscribe to the Patreon!
Show Notes.
Jared’s
doodle
for the month.
Renée Vink’s “‘Jewish’ Dwarves: Tolkien and Anti-Semitic
Stereotyping,” as referenced by Luke
Shelton.
Patricia Thang’s Bookriot piece “9 of the Best Lord of the Rings Podcasts.”
So, You Want to Read Tolkien.
Stuff.co.nz’s February 26th piece “Massive production underway for Lord of
the Rings in
Auckland.”
TheOneRing.net’s February spy
report on the Amazon production as
well as their news
summary of the accident
stuntwoman Elissa Cadwell suffered on set.
The original sneak preview
trailer in spring 2000 from
Peter Jackson’s Lord of the Rings production.
And indeed, Bezos himself was apparently in New
Zealand.
Deadline’s report on Maxim Baldry joining the cast.
Star Trek fans, Kirk and Spock and all that? The history is
there.
Heavy Mithril!
Curative and
transformational fandom.
A favorite artistic/literary fanwork effort: Gustave Dore’s Rime of the
Ancient
Mariner.
Beyond Bree, still going strong!
The fan film Ned was talking about is Born of
Hope, and it is indeed about
Arathorn, Aragorn’s father.
The revelations about Marion Zimmer
Bradley make for blunt reading; triggers noted.
A Tolkien Treasury is around if you look.
The Numero comp, which has songs like Stonehenge’s “King of the Golden Hall,”
is Warfaring Strangers: Darkscorch
Canticles.
Got metal and prog bands who love Tolkien if you want ‘em. Cirith
Ungol! Amon
Amarth! And yes
Marillion...
Iron Crown Enterprises is
still around! But as the link shows, the game license isn’t…
Jared’s concluding fan artist recommendations: Aud
Koch, Morgan
Rogers and Caleb
Hosalla.
And again, support By-The-Bywater on Patreon
and you can hear our bonus bit about filksongs!

Feb 11, 2020 • 1h 5min
11. I Found that Personally Upsetting.
Jared, Oriana and Ned discuss Oriana’s choice of topic: the Dwarves!
Tolkien drew on Norse mythology and related traditions when he introduced the
Dwarves almost from the beginning of his Middle-earth writing, and the many
Dwarves in The Hobbit all have names drawn from such mythology as well.
They’re one of the most distinct peoples Tolkien created, influencing endless
portrayals since then, yet much like their own history in Middle-earth,
there’s a lot we don’t really know about them except very particular
instances. Do what degree, if any at all, did Tolkien, unconsciously or not,
draw on stereotypes of Jewish people when writing about his Dwarves? How does
Gimli act as a contrast to the Dwarves as portrayed in earlier Middle-earth
works, and was that a specific decision on Tolkien’s part? And maybe most
importantly, can there be such a thing as a hot dwarf? We also spend some in-depth time on two big news stories: the death of Christopher Tolkien and
Amazon’s announcement of the ensemble cast for their TV adaptation.
Show Notes.
Jared’s
doodle for
the episode.
That ‘UK police don’t realize they have the One
Ring’ story.
The Tolkien Society’s announcement of Christopher Tolkien’s
death.
John Garth’s obituary of Christopher
Tolkien from The Guardian.
A translation of Christopher Tolkien’s interview with Le
Monde.
Amazon’s announcement of their Tolkien adaptation
cast via Twitter.
The Television Critics Association. It’s a thing!
The National Museum of Denmark has a page
up about Dwarves in Tolkien and their
origins in Norse mythology.
Suffice to say that the question of Tolkien’s Dwarves and anti-Semitic tropes
has indeed come up a few times. Here’s one instance from last
decade.
”Dwarves are Not Heroes”: Antisemitism and the Dwarves in J.R.R. Tolkien’s
Writing
by Rebecca Brackman.
Uncut Gems was pretty good, it should
be said.
As for the Goblins in J. K. Rowling’s work, there’s definitely been talk
about it.
The letter from Tolkien to a Nazi-overseen
publisher in response to a question about his ancestry is quite well-known indeed.
We don’t recommend a read of Bret Stephens’s column in question. Suffice to
say it didn’t go over well.
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