The Fiftyfaces Podcast

Jo Natauri is Founder and managing Partner of Invidia Capital Management, a healthcare focused private equity firm founded in 2024, with a focus on middle-market buyouts in North America. She was formerly Global Head of Healthcare Investing in the Merchant Banking Division of Goldman Sachs.We start by discussing Jo's path to investment banking and how she chose the business side of healthcare over policy. We discuss her long period of apprenticeship and then leading investments while at Goldman Sachs and her decision to strike out in her own firm. Jo explains the diversity within healthcare, from biotech to hospitals, and the permanent base of demand that makes it a good sector to invest in.  She discusses her core beliefs, including avoiding investments that increase drug prices or target vulnerable populations, and discusses the opportunity set that excites her in the middle market arena. When it comes to mentors Jo has had some legendary investors within her circle and cites the apprentice nature of the investment business as a key aspect to be remembered and observed across the seniority spectrum. Series 5 of 2025 is kindly sponsored by Diamond Hill. Diamond Hill invests on behalf of clients through a shared commitment to its valuation-driven investment principles, long-term perspective, capacity discipline and client alignment. An independent active asset manager with significant employee ownership, Diamond Hill’s investment strategies include differentiated US and non-US equity, alternative long-short equity and fixed income.

Lindsey Bass is Head of Marketing and in charge of Fundraising at ImpactA Global, a position she has held since late 2023. She is a passionate advocate for more diversity in the investment industry as well as emerging managers. She has been active on the Asset Owner Diversity Charter as an Advisory Board Member, and in the Diversity Project – investment industry, where she has co-led the Mental Health Workstream as well as other responsibilities. She has also been an early and consistent supporter of Fiftyfaces – for which we are hugely grateful.Our conversation starts with Lindsey's upbringing and her creative household, which saw her naturally gravitate towards storytelling in TV production, and then later expressing herself via the fashion industry before eventually settling in the world of finance. Moving to her work at ImpactA Global as well as finance more broadly we start out by sketching the landscape in terms of asset classes, large and small participants as well as strategies that create impact and how it should be defined. With the particular subsector that ImpactA focuses on, Lindsey explains the firm's focus on infrastructure financing in lower and middle-income regions, aiming to deliver better economic outcomes and address inequalities. We define impact and discuss some of the unexpected benefits such as the multiplier effect that investing in communities can have. Moving on to other industry contributions Lindsey highlights her involvement in the Asset Owner Diversity Charter, focusing on improving data and conversations between asset owners and managers, as well as her advocacy for emerging managers more generally.Lindsey is a tireless advocate and enthusiastic and creative member of the London financial services industry. It was a pleasure to celebrate her numerous contributions in this forum. Series 5 of 2025 is kindly sponsored by Diamond Hill. Diamond Hill invests on behalf of clients through a shared commitment to its valuation-driven investment principles, long-term perspective, capacity discipline and client alignment. An independent active asset manager with significant employee ownership, Diamond Hill’s investment strategies include differentiated US and non-US equity, alternative long-short equity and fixed income.

George Graham is Director and Head of Fund at South Yorkshire Pensions Authority. He has spent a long career in public service, culminating in the last 8 years at SYPA, and prior to that he spent his career in various finance roles at Oxfordshire, Northamptonshire, Chorley, Lancashire and LPP. He is Governor and Vice Chair of Barnsley College as well as Independent Chair of the Local Pension Board at Lincolnshire County Council. George will be retiring from his role as Head of Fund at SYPA at the end of the year, and this discussion was an opportunity to reflect on a career in which public service dominated, and against which a dramatically changing market backdrop cast a long - and positive - shadow. We track his early insights into the challenges of local government, and how his finance roles started to overlap with the investment function. This sight of the investment function led him to be an early mover in local government pooling - starting with the Lancashire and LPFA merger a decade ago - and he explains why the rationale is, for him, so clear cut as the demands of institutional investing have grown.We speak too about his commitment to local investing as well as to a sustainability agenda, which, as in many of his endeavours has been bold and ahead of its time. Finally we reflect on learnings from a long and varied career, about the development of a leadership style, about learning to go against a natural tendency to be more introverted and deliberately reach out to team members to support them. We end with a discussion of legacy, which in George's case will be a long and impactful one. Series 5 of 2025 is kindly sponsored by Diamond Hill. Diamond Hill invests on behalf of clients through a shared commitment to its valuation-driven investment principles, long-term perspective, capacity discipline and client alignment. An independent active asset manager with significant employee ownership, Diamond Hill’s investment strategies include differentiated US and non-US equity, alternative long-short equity and fixed income.

Pilar Gomez-Bravo is Co-Chief Investment Officer fixed income and portfolio manager at MFS Investment Management. She was previously a managing director at Neuberger Berman, and prior to that, spent a significant amount of her career at Lehman Brothers.Our conversation starts with Pilar's childhood which saw her move around a lot with her family - this forced an adaptability and resilience that served her well when her career in finance took many unexpected turns. Market and segment volatility played a notable supporting role in Pilar's early career, most particularly with a massive setback when Lehman Brothers collapsed and again when she joined a start-up hedge fund for a short period of time. MFS represented another change of direction, but ended up as a very fertile one, as she steadily progressed through the ranks there until ultimately co-leading the fixed income function in her current role. We discuss what makes an employer a positive influence, and how a nurturing work setting can bring out the best in teams.Finally we reflect on what it is to have a full life, and the importance of staying diversified in life as well as in work.Series 5 of 2025 is kindly sponsored by Diamond Hill. Diamond Hill invests on behalf of clients through a shared commitment to its valuation-driven investment principles, long-term perspective, capacity discipline and client alignment. An independent active asset manager with significant employee ownership, Diamond Hill’s investment strategies include differentiated US and non-US equity, alternative long-short equity and fixed income.

Ian McKnight is a long-time asset management CIO who currently holds a portfolio of roles, including as Chief Investment Officer of Tontine Trust, Senior Adviser of Cartwright, Hineni Capital and Giants Shoulders Capital as well as a series of other roles. He previously was Chief Investment Officer at Royal Mail for over 13 years.    Our conversation starts with Ian’s start as an actuary and how he found himself gravitating towards pensions – his affinity for working with people and problem solving made him a natural fit. We discuss some of his core investment beliefs including how to take calculated risks, and use examples of some of the innovative strategies he employed while CIO at Royal Mail. We discuss how government regulation (and attitude to risk) can hamstring investment opportunities and what can be done to avert this. Ian explains Tontine Trust's potential to disrupt the annuity market by offering income for life with better returns. Ian also stressed the importance of networking, mentorship, and entrepreneurial spirit, advocating for a cultural shift in the UK to foster innovation and risk-taking.Series 5 of 2025 is kindly sponsored by Diamond Hill. Diamond Hill invests on behalf of clients through a shared commitment to its valuation-driven investment principles, long-term perspective, capacity discipline and client alignment. An independent active asset manager with significant employee ownership, Diamond Hill’s investment strategies include differentiated US and non-US equity, alternative long-short equity and fixed income.

Deanne Stewart is CEO at Aware Super, an Australian superannuation fund with over 200 billion AUD in assets under management and the third largest superannuation fund in the country. She has held this role for close to seven years, and was previously Chief Executive Officer at MetLife in Sydney, and prior to that, held a series of financial services roles.Because Deanne is no stranger to podcasting (you can see a range of her other appearances below) we wanted to pick up where some of the other podcasts had picked up and we start by asking what it was about her varied roles - what she calls a "grab bag of experiences - in asset management, life insurance and management consulting that shaped her leadership style and approach at the helm of Aware Super. We reflect on what she seeks to channel as a leader, and Deanne highlights the importance of curiosity about her team, ideas, approaches, and about listening and plugging in to "learning mode".Moving to discuss the priorities now at Aware Super, we discuss their strong ethos around essential workers, and how this translates into a twin focus on achieving the required return but also channeling the responsible ownership ethos that is important to their mission. We discuss recent acquisitions and the consolidation going on within the Australian superannuation fund environment and the need to find global investment opportunities as the funds under management grow.You can find more podcasts featuring Deanne here:Leadership Series with Helen McCabe https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/deanne-stewart-on-the-pivotal-moment-that-shaped-her-career/id1469503665?i=1000703776587Top CEO Series, The Mentor with Mark Bouris https://open.spotify.com/episode/0R0hHl3Q6wfdaBb4JI5WNd?si=K5CBUkSiRSGyfE8dMGQ2qABlenheim Partners https://blenheimpartners.com/episode-109-deanne-stewart/Series 5 of 2025 is kindly sponsored by Diamond Hill. Diamond Hill invests on behalf of clients through a shared commitment to its valuation-driven investment principles, long-term perspective, capacity discipline and client alignment. An independent active asset manager with significant employee ownership, Diamond Hill’s investment strategies include differentiated US and non-US equity, alternative long-short equity and fixed income

Have you heard about the fraud triangle? Do you know what graduate trainees look for in an employer? We are delighted to launch Series 5 of the Fiftyfaces Podcast this week. Featuring a range of voices from the Australian Superannuation Fund Aware Super to a legend of the UK local government pension scheme, we hear what drives their leadership styles, their insights on the dynamic backdrop to pensions the world over as well as novel approaches in which they see interesting opportunities. We dive into key investment topics - like the opportunity in healthcare and how to do real operational due diligence. We hear about the European emerging manager scene and why the UK should not be written off as an investment destination. We listen to a CIO who risked it all, lost it all and bounced back in an institutional setting that proved just the right combination of support and challenge and from a Brazilian institutional investment adviser as well as a leader in modern diversified financial solutions in the alternatives space. Tune in starting this week to hear from our guests Deanne Stewart, Ian McKnight, Pilar Gomez-Bravo, George Graham, Lindsey Bass, Rebecca Heun, Jo Natauri, Jamila Osman, Everaldo Franca and James Clarke.Series 5 of 2025 is kindly sponsored by Diamond Hill. Diamond Hill invests on behalf of clients through a shared commitment to its valuation-driven investment principles, long-term perspective, capacity discipline and client alignment. An independent active asset manager with significant employee ownership, Diamond Hill's investment strategies include differentiated US and non-US equity, alternative long-short equity and fixed income.

As we prepare for Series 5 of the Fiftyfaces Podcast, we are delighted to bring you this preview from Series 5, a joint podcast between Fiftyfaces Productions and Alvine Capital.  Alvine Capital is a specialist investment advisor and fund placement boutique. Nate Kirk is the co-founder of Everside Capital Partners, a private credit fund focused on the lower-middle market based in New York City. He founded the firm together with Moritz Poehl in 2016, and was previously a portfolio manager at Third Avenue Management, where he focused on stressed and distressed credit, special situations and flexible credit, and prior to that worked as a Trader and High Yield Credit Researcher at J P Morgan. Our conversation starts with Nate’s early education and the passion that he developed for rowing in his teens and beyond. While he admits that he didn’t always have the “best form” as a rower, his passion, discipline and dedication to the sport distinguished him and taught him the characteristics of grit and perseverance that proved to be useful in the corporate world. We hear about how he had to channel that grit to find his first entry into the world of finance, and about the lessons that the volatility in the financial world presented. These lessons related to client treatment – particularly in times of challenge, dealing with counterparties and seeking pockets of return along the road less traveled. We conclude with reflections on how personal setbacks can lead to a reckoning of what it is that truly matters in life and on the challenges – and rewards of finding a solid work/life balance.Alvine Talks Podcasts are co-hosted by Tom Raber and Aoifinn Devitt and aim to bring a deeper understanding of the people and processes behind the strategies that drive differentiated returns.

In this latest episode of our Latin American Voices Series we are joined by Uwe Schillhorn who featured in our main series in early 2024, in which he described his period living in Chile and the insights gained from all of that time on the ground. That podcast is here: https://open.spotify.com/episode/4wiSyXvKN9eccFEXDiK9Sm?si=0qwkL-1jSQGaPMFdDyA62gWe move then to mapping the Chilean institutional investor landscape, and Uwe details the pension fund landscape, the insurance companies and family offices that comprise the investor base. We chat about the economic backdrop and the preferences that this has led to when it comes to portfolio construction. We then move to the focus on Yupa Fund Services as a placement agent serving the Chilean institutional landscape.This latest installment of our Latin American Voices series is intended to shed more light on the Chilean economy and its institutional investors, particularly of interest to international managers seeking to diversify their investor base into the region.

Sam Garetano is Senior Vice President at Brookfield Asset Management, where he works in the infrastructure area with a particular focus on data centers. He has spent his entire career in various roles in finance including at Blackrock and Adams Street Partners.Our conversation starts with Sam’s somewhat unconventional path into finance. He initially thought he would pursue a career in sports broadcasting, after pursuing a degree in broadcast journalism. While that career path was not to be, we reflect on how a love of statistics and an eye for detail can align with a flair for financial analysis. We move then to his move to Brookfield and into the infrastructure area and speak about the opportunity set in the burgeoning field of data centers. In this dynamic area, staying up to date is key and Sam mentions the evolution of data centers from small, single-purpose structures to large, power-consuming facilities. This naturally has led to a surge in demand for power which is a further source of infrastructure investment opportunity. Our discussion spans the importance of global reach, local investment and the evolving financial ecosystem around infrastructure and data centers. With thanks to Baillie Gifford for sponsoring Series 4 of 2025. Baillie Gifford is a long-term investment manager, dedicated to discovering the innovations and changemakers that deliver exceptional growth opportunities for its clients.