
It's Complicated
Join former federal prosecutor Renato Mariotti and former FBI Special Agent and Yale Law School lecturer Asha Rangappa as they break down for Legal AF the biggest legal and political stories with sharp insight, real experience, and an unapologetic pro-democracy perspective. No spin, no both-sides nonsense — just the facts, the law, and what it all means for our democracy.
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Jan 19, 2024 • 47min
Episode 58 - Sideshow
This week, Hunter Biden pulled a bit of a stunt to try to control the narrative; Trump’s legal strategy continues to be to distract and delay. Plus, it’s cold cold.For a limited time, save up to 35% at CozyEarth.com and enter COMPLICATED at checkout. Abbe Lowell's letter to House Judiciary; Oversight and Accountabilityhttps://www.politico.com/f/?id=0000018c-fefa-d077-af8f-feff37d20001House's Response to Abbe Lowell:https://judiciary.house.gov/sites/evo-subsites/republicans-judiciary.house.gov/files/evo-media-document/2024-01-14-jdj-jc-to-lowell-re-new-subpoena-for-hb.pdf We’d like to thank Noom for their support. Sign up for your trial today at Noom.com. And check out Noom's first-ever cookbook, The Noom Kitchen, for 100 healthy and delicious recipes to promote better living. Available now wherever books are sold.Subscribe on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@Its.Complicated/Subscribe to our podcast https://link.chtbl.com/its-complicatedFollow Asha on Twitter: https://twitter.com/AshaRangappa_Asha's Substack: https://asharangappa.substack.com/Follow Renato on Twitter: https://twitter.com/renato_mariottiFollow Asha on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/asha.rangappa/Follow Renato on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/renato.mariotti/Follow Renato on Threads: https://www.threads.net/@renato.mariottiOpening Theme and Bumper music provided by eitanepsteinmusic / Pond5
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Jan 12, 2024 • 55min
Episode 57 - Immunity Insanity
This week, Trump’s lawyers argue for presidential immunity in front of the DC Circuit Court; one of Trump’s co-defendants in Fulton County makes some big allegations against Fani Willis; plus Henry’s the boss, and Pancake has bad manners. We’d like to thank Noom for their support. Sign up for your trial today at Noom.com. And check out Noom's first-ever cookbook, The Noom Kitchen, for 100 healthy and delicious recipes to promote better living. Available now wherever books are sold.Subscribe on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@Its.Complicated/Subscribe to our podcast https://link.chtbl.com/its-complicatedFollow Asha on Twitter: https://twitter.com/AshaRangappa_Asha's Substack: https://asharangappa.substack.com/Follow Renato on Twitter: https://twitter.com/renato_mariottiFollow Asha on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/asha.rangappa/Follow Renato on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/renato.mariotti/Follow Renato on Threads: https://www.threads.net/@renato.mariottiOpening Theme and Bumper music provided by eitanepsteinmusic / Pond5
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Jan 5, 2024 • 42min
Episode 56 - The Maine Event
This week, Trump is taken off another ballot when Maine’s Secretary of State rules him ineligible– how will SCOTUS treat the issue? Also, Jack Smith filed a motion to limit Trump’s defense from using political persecution and other frivolous arguments in the DC case.Renato and Asha share some of their goals for 2024. We’d like to thank Noom for their support. Sign up for your trial today at Noom.com. And check out Noom's first-ever cookbook, The Noom Kitchen, for 100 healthy and delicious recipes to promote better living. Available now wherever books are sold.Subscribe on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@Its.Complicated/Subscribe to our podcast https://link.chtbl.com/its-complicatedFollow Asha on Twitter: https://twitter.com/AshaRangappa_Asha's Substack: https://asharangappa.substack.com/Follow Renato on Twitter: https://twitter.com/renato_mariottiFollow Asha on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/asha.rangappa/Follow Renato on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/renato.mariotti/Follow Renato on Threads: https://www.threads.net/@renato.mariottiOpening Theme and Bumper music provided by eitanepsteinmusic / Pond5
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Dec 22, 2023 • 58min
Episode 55 | SCOTUS Operandi with Steve Vladeck
This week, Supreme Court expert Steve Vladeck joins Asha to discuss Jack Smith’s attempt to bypass the DC Circuit; Colorado’s 14th Amendment case; and how the next SCOTUS term might shape up. Renato is on vacation.We’d like to thank Noom for their support. Sign up for your trial today at Noom.com. And check out Noom's first-ever cookbook, The Noom Kitchen, for 100 healthy and delicious recipes to promote better living. Available for pre-sale wherever books are sold.Follow Steve VladeckSteve Vladeckhttps://twitter.com/steve_vladeckhttps://www.scotusblog.com/2022/01/the-rise-of-certiorari-before-judgment/The Shadow Dockethttps://www.hachettebookgroup.com/titles/stephen-vladeck/the-shadow-docket/9781541602632/Subscribe on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@Its.Complicated/Subscribe to our podcast https://link.chtbl.com/its-complicatedFollow Asha on Twitter: https://twitter.com/AshaRangappa_Asha's Substack: https://asharangappa.substack.com/Follow Renato on Twitter: https://twitter.com/renato_mariottiFollow Asha on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/asha.rangappa/Follow Renato on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/renato.mariotti/Follow Renato on Threads: https://www.threads.net/@renato.mariottiOpening Theme and Bumper music provided by eitanepsteinmusic / Pond5
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Dec 15, 2023 • 37min
Episode 54 - Mr. Smith Goes to SCOTUS
This week, Jack Smith seeks an immediate review of Judge Chutkan’s ruling on Trump’s motion to dismiss based on his “total presidential immunity” argument. Showing uncharacteristically good judgment, Trump does not testify in his New York civil fraud trial. Plus, Renato needs a vacation.We’d like to thank Noom for their support. Sign up for your trial today at Noom.com. And check out Noom's first-ever cookbook, The Noom Kitchen, for 100 healthy and delicious recipes to promote better living. Available for pre-sale wherever books are sold.Subscribe on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@Its.Complicated/Subscribe to our podcast https://link.chtbl.com/its-complicatedFollow Asha on Twitter: https://twitter.com/AshaRangappa_Asha's Substack: https://asharangappa.substack.com/Follow Renato on Twitter: https://twitter.com/renato_mariottiFollow Asha on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/asha.rangappa/Follow Renato on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/renato.mariotti/Follow Renato on Threads: https://www.threads.net/@renato.mariottiOpening Theme and Bumper music provided by eitanepsteinmusic / Pond5
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Dec 8, 2023 • 48min
Episode 53 - Benchslapped 2X
This week; Judge Chutkin rules on Trump’s motions; she will not be dismissing the case. Jack Smith introduces evidence that goes to Trump’s intent to cause the insurrection and ongoing sympathy and support for insurrectionists.Plus Asha and Renato talk about getting fit for winter.We’d like to thank Noom for their support. Sign up for your trial today at Noom.com. And check out Noom's first-ever cookbook, The Noom Kitchen, for 100 healthy and delicious recipes to promote better living. Available to buy now wherever books are sold.Subscribe on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@Its.Complicated/Subscribe to our podcast https://link.chtbl.com/its-complicatedFollow Asha on Twitter: https://twitter.com/AshaRangappa_Asha's Substack: https://asharangappa.substack.com/Follow Renato on Twitter: https://twitter.com/renato_mariottiFollow Asha on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/asha.rangappa/Follow Renato on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/renato.mariotti/Follow Renato on Threads: https://www.threads.net/@renato.mariottiOpening Theme and Bumper music provided by eitanepsteinmusic / Pond5
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Dec 1, 2023 • 45min
Episode 52 - Trump Gag; Musk Suit; Santa Home Security
This week there are 1st Amendment issues to consider with Trump’s appeal of Judge Chutkan’s gag order; Elon Musk went venue shopping in Texas to file a lawsuit against Media Matters; plus Santa Claus home security.Subscribe on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@Its.Complicated/Subscribe to our podcast https://link.chtbl.com/its-complicatedFollow Asha on Twitter: https://twitter.com/AshaRangappa_Asha's Substack: https://asharangappa.substack.com/Follow Renato on Twitter: https://twitter.com/renato_mariottiFollow Asha on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/asha.rangappa/Follow Renato on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/renato.mariotti/Follow Renato on Threads: https://www.threads.net/@renato.mariottiOpening Theme and Bumper music provided by eitanepsteinmusic / Pond5
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Nov 17, 2023 • 56min
Slow Roll in Mar-a-Lago; Powell and Ellis Roll Over; and Home Improvement
Judge Aileen Cannon is up to some shenanigans in Mar-a-Lago. CIPA expert Brian Greer joins us to go over the recent delays and the impact on the government’s case against Trump.We get bits of the proffer sessions from Jenna Ellisa and Sidney Powell.Plus, home improvementBrian Greerhttps://twitter.com/secretsandlawshttps://www.justsecurity.org/87134/the-quick-guide-to-cipa-classified-information-procedures-act/Delay Charthttps://drive.google.com/file/d/1B1jUQ-KQrKIVboDg6gg2BdwM7Y7wzE7x/view?usp=sharing Subscribe on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@Its.Complicated/Subscribe to our podcast https://link.chtbl.com/its-complicatedFollow Asha on Twitter: https://twitter.com/AshaRangappa_Asha's Substack: https://asharangappa.substack.com/Follow Renato on Twitter: https://twitter.com/renato_mariottiFollow Asha on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/asha.rangappa/Follow Renato on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/renato.mariotti/Follow Renato on Threads: https://www.threads.net/@renato.mariotti
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Nov 10, 2023 • 48min
Trump's Circus Performance
Donald Trump acted very oddly on the stand in his New York civil fraud trial. No, it was not a savvy legal maneuver. But in DC, Trump does have some legal arguments that are likely to go to the Supreme Court. They’re losing arguments, but they will set precedents.Plus, how Asha and Renato will be spending their winter holidays.Thanks, HelloFresh! Go to HelloFresh.com/50COMPLICATED and use code 50COMPLICATED for 50% off plus free shipping.Subscribe on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@Its.Complicated/Subscribe to our podcast https://link.chtbl.com/its-complicatedFollow Asha on Twitter: https://twitter.com/AshaRangappa_Asha's Substack: https://asharangappa.substack.com/Follow Renato on Twitter: https://twitter.com/renato_mariottiFollow Asha on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/asha.rangappa/Follow Renato on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/renato.mariotti/Opening Theme and Bumper music provided by eitanepsteinmusic / Pond5
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Nov 3, 2023 • 34min
Episode 49 - Mark Meadows Makes a Deal; Trump Gets Re-Gagged; A Dog with a Job
Mark Meadows is trying to thread the needle between saving his own skin and maintaining an appearance of loyalty to Trump. Judge Chutkan reinstated her partial gag order on Trump in the DC case.Plus, Halloween at the Mariotti house.Thanks HelloFresh! Go to HelloFresh.com/50COMPLICATED and use code 50COMPLICATED for 50% off plus free shipping.Subscribe on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@Its.Complicated/Subscribe to our podcast https://link.chtbl.com/its-complicatedFollow Asha on Twitter: https://twitter.com/AshaRangappa_Asha's Substack: https://asharangappa.substack.com/Follow Renato on Twitter: https://twitter.com/renato_mariottiFollow Asha on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/asha.rangappa/Follow Renato on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/renato.mariotti/Opening Theme and Bumper music provided by eitanepsteinmusic / Pond5
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