It's Complicated

Welcome back to It’s Complicated, where we unravel the tangled web of recent developments threatening American democracy.Asha Rangappa is a former FBI special agent who teaches national security law at Yale. Along with renowned attorney and activist George Conway, and Norm Eisen, a CNN legal analyst and senior fellow at the Brookings Institution, they explore the weaponization of defamation law and its implications for democracy.Subscribe to our Patreon here, where paid members will get access to exclusive portions of this show. patreon.com/reallyamericanmediaWe’ll kick things off with an in-depth analysis of the recent defamation case involving ABC News and Donald Trump. Many believe the controversial settlement reached by ABC sets a dangerous precedent—inviting more frivolous lawsuits and stifling free speech.The defamation lawsuit, rooted in a misinterpretation of legal terms like "rape" and "sexual abuse," highlights the complex relationship between media reporting and legal standards. Our hosts urge the Press, who play a critical role in defending democracy, to stand firm against intimidation.The trio discusses the challenges posed by the changing dynamics of the media landscape. And Asha stresses the importance of vigilance and critical thinking in an era where misinformation is so rampant.We’ll also explore the broader implications of these defamation lawsuits for the survival of democracy. As Norm warns, the strategic use of legal battles to suppress dissent draws dark parallels to tactics used by authoritarian regimes throughout history. Asha, George, and Norm underscore the importance of working together to provide support for people targeted by these oppressive legal strategies, which is exactly what Norm’s organization-The State Democracy Defenders-Fund is all about.We’ll wrap things up on a lighter note, as our hosts share their upcoming holiday plans, reflecting on the need for personal time and recharging. So, stay tuned, stay informed, and stay supportive of each other. And we’ll see you next time, on It’s Complicated. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this centennial episode of our show, hosts Asha Rangappa and Renato Mariotti share their insights on who President Biden should consider pardoning, and unravel the complex implications of these decisions.Subscribe to our Patreon here, where paid members will get access to exclusive portions of this show. patreon.com/reallyamericanmediaAsha, a national security law educator at Yale and former FBI special agent, and Renato, a former federal prosecutor and legal analyst, navigate through the intricacies of presidential pardon power—granted by Article 2, Section 2 of the Constitution.We’ll kick things off by analyzing the recent pardon of President Biden’s son, Hunter. Renato and Asha argue that presidential pardon power should ideally be used to right societal wrongs, and mend deeper systemic issues. But they’ll also touch on how Hunter's prosecution was an anomaly, wrongfully driven by political vendettas. Our hosts explore some of the other potential recipients of pardons, considering the many individuals Trump has promised to target when he’s back in power. And though there may be a potential backlash, Asha and Renato urge President Biden to issue protective pardons for folks like Liz Cheney, and so many others.And finally, we’ll talk about the radical idea of pardoning Donald Trump, which could steer the nation toward reconciliation and help cool partisan tensions. As we wrap things up, you won’t want to miss Asha’s update on her birthday celebrations, or Renato’s long awaited vacation plans. They’ll also invite our listeners to join us on an 11-day cruise next summer, sailing from Copenhagen to Iceland! It’s going to be a relaxing trip with lots of engaging conversation.Until next week, stay curious, stay engaged, and we’ll see you back here on It's Complicated. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Welcome back to another episode, with our hosts Asha Rangappa and Renato Mariotti. Today, they bring their legal expertise to tackle a very compelling question: How much damage can Trump's nominees do if given the chance? Well, as usual, it’s complicated. Subscribe to our Patreon here, where paid members will get access to exclusive portions of this show. patreon.com/reallyamericanmediaAsha, a former FBI special agent and Yale law professor, alongside Renato, a seasoned federal prosecutor, seek to unpack the possible ripple effects of having unqualified, or ideologically extreme individuals in key governmental roles. From the unsettling appointment of Pete Hegseth, a former Fox news reporter with allegations of assault against him, to appointing conspiracy theorist RFK Jr. for the head of Health and Human Services, one thing is certain: the stakes have never been higher.We’ll explore the potential disastrous effects on national security, the rule of law, and everyday regulations that impact Americans directly. And we’ll also discuss how Trump's appointments, ranging from "buffoon to sociopath," could drastically alter the function of critical agencies like the DoJ, and the possible implications for civil liberties.Asha warns of the looming danger of a Justice Department that could be weaponized against political adversaries, eroding trust and integrity in legal institutions. Renato highlights how other, seemingly invisible bureaucratic roles might have massive consequences and could lead to public health crises or financial instability.So, what lies ahead with these appointments on the horizon? We’ll discuss the far-reaching effects of political appointments on governance, the everyday lives of Americans, and for the very structure of democracy itself.You’ll also hear more about our fascinating 11-day cruise from Copenhagen to Iceland next summer. Asha and Renato will invite you to join them on a wonderful journey that promises a unique blend of relaxation and intellectual stimulation—an ideal escape from the political whirlwind we currently face.Stay tuned, stay informed and stay engaged with us as we continue to dissect these complicated political times. And join us here next week for another awesome episode of It’s Complicated. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this very special episode, hosts Renato Mariotti and Asha Rangappa are joined by seasoned legal expert and commentator Ken White to discuss the perplexing legalities and terrifying consequences of Trump’s new unchecked presidential power.  Subscribe to our Patreon here, where paid members will get access to exclusive portions of this show. patreon.com/reallyamericanmediaRenato, a former federal prosecutor, and Asha, a Yale law professor, recap Trump’s remaining legal battles, and explore the contentious decision by Jack Smith and the Department of Justice to charge Donald in the first place. You’ll also hear an in-depth examination of how Merrick Garland’s slow, cautious approach compares to the rapid, decisive actions we’ve seen in previous administrations.Despite the recent unsettling Supreme Court decision granting broad immunity to presidents, our guest Ken White argues that pursuing due process and protecting constitutional safeguards is always vital to democracy. Even when the outcomes may appear grim.Renato, Asha, and Ken urge prosecution for local actors involved in election-related misconduct, to serve as a deterrent on other grassroots level actors. We’ll also review how the states play a critical role in serving as one of the essential checks on federal overreach.Our hosts discuss how things might have played out if charges against Trump had been brought sooner, and in a more conducive legal environment. We’ll also review how past political climates, and counterfactual scenarios have shifted judicial opinions and outcomes. And finally, Asha and Renato argue that we must take a more proactive stance to rectify the glaring flaws in our institutions that Trump has revealed.As difficult as it might be to accept these new political and legal realities, our brave hosts encourage us to maintain a cautious optimism, and stress the importance of public awareness in upholding democratic values.Stay tuned for future must-listen episodes, where we will continue to unravel legal landscapes, confront systemic issues, and illuminate the paths to enduring reform. Stay engaged and informed as Renato and Asha navigate the labyrinth of American democracy, one episode at a time.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In today's all-new episode, our hosts-former federal prosecutor Renato Mariotti and Yale law professor Asha Rangappa-uncover Donald Trump's nefarious plans to overthrow the Department of Justice and transform it into his own personal score-settling machine. Subscribe to our Patreon here, where paid members will get access to exclusive portions of this show. patreon.com/reallyamericanmediaIn the aftermath of Trump's shocking win, concerns about the abuse of presidential power have once again taken center stage. Asha, with her extensive background in national security law, and Renato, armed with his prosecutorial experience, examine the legalities and consequences of an unchecked presidency.Our hosts debate, considering the Supreme Court’s decision on presidential immunity, whether procedural protections within The Constitution can withstand Donald’s likely abuses of power. And Asha raises serious concerns about society's acceptance of Trump’s behavior, warning that significant changes in the system could now go unchecked.We’ll talk about the incoming administration’s potential political maneuvers that could have lasting consequences on American foreign policy, immigrants, and government employees. As Renato points out, the subtle, gradual shift towards authoritarianism has become a much greater threat than a sudden, overt coup.Asha and Renato also break down the legal quagmire Trump still faces, with a number of various pending cases. And we’ll talk about how the Biden Administration’s failure to properly address Trump’s injustices and abuses underscores the need for deeper, systemic reforms. Despite the despair and fear a lot of people are feeling, both Asha and Renato encourage us to take on a cautious optimism, pointing out that we’re better prepared now to anticipate and respond to Trump’s antics than we ever were in his first term.We hope you enjoy this captivating episode. Remember to stay vigilant, stay informed, and stay engaged, as we are reminded once again that navigating the legal future of American democracy is indeed complicated. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Welcome back to our Election Edition of It’s Complicated! In this very special episode, hosts Asha Rangappa and Renato Mariotti are joined by attorney, author, and former U.S. Ambassador Norm Eisen.  They discuss the potential chaos Trump could unleash on election night, as well as the complexities of reforming U.S. election laws.Subscribe to our Patreon here, where paid members will get access to exclusive portions of this show. patreon.com/reallyamericanmediaNorm Eisen, a veteran election law litigator, sheds light on the safeguards that have been put in place to prevent a repeat of 2020, emphasizing the importance of the Electoral Count Reform Act. According to Eisen, the legal landscape has shifted significantly since 2020, closing many of the loopholes Trump exploited in his previous campaign.Eisen, who helped shape the Electoral Count Reform Act and testified before Congress on the matter, breaks down the systemic changes made to prevent Trump’s election chaos from happening again. Norm assures our listeners that, this time, reforms have been made to fortify the certification process against using alternate slates of electors. He explains how, for example, the reform act has demystified the vice president's ceremonial role and defined it as purely ministerial. And despite the close-call potential in states like Pennsylvania and Michigan, Eisen remains optimistic that these changes will safeguard the democratic process.Asha urges our listeners to remain vigilant against disinformation and skewed information on social media, which can fuel doubt and unrest. Renato breaks down the potential legal disputes that Trump could still bring to the table. And together, they’ll assess the battleground states most likely to face litigation.We’ll see you next time for another incredible episode of It’s Complicated, as we keep you informed on the pivotal issues shaping the evolving landscape of election law. We’ll also be announcing a very special opportunity for you to join us for a cruise next July, so stay tuned for that! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Welcome back to another exciting episode, with hosts Asha Rangappa and Renato Mariotti. We’re back to dive into the new potential election law violations and national security issues surrounding Elon Musk. Musk, known for his innovative business ventures and disruptive technologies, now finds himself at the center of intense legal scrutiny. From allegedly violating campaign finance laws with his sweepstakes scheme, to newly reported intriguing conversations with Vladimir Putin, Musk’s actions could have lasting consequences on the political legal landscape, as well as U.S. national security interests.Subscribe to our Patreon here, where paid members will get access to exclusive portions of this show. patreon.com/reallyamericanmediaSo what does it all mean for Musk? Well, It’s Complicated.Renato and Asha unpack Elon’s controversial lottery scheme, which offers a million-dollar prize, under questionable legal circumstances, to voters who pledge to support policies friendly to Trump. We’ll also explain how the recent maneuvering by both the DoJ and Musk could lead to a prolonged legal battle over the issue. And you’ll hear how the complex nature of these financed voter drives allows for many lines of potential defenses in case of prosecution.Adding to the intrigue surrounding Musk, the Wall Street Journal reported this week that Elon has been in consistent communication with Russian despot Vladimir Putin. Find out in this episode how Musk, who has a top-secret US security clearance, allegedly even discussed strategic assets like Starlink satellites with Putin. Asha and Renato will break down how Elon’s private discussions should align with national security protocols, and therefore potentially violate the Logan Act, which restricts private citizens from negotiating with foreign governments.We’ll break down how Musk's actions underscore a broader issue—certain individuals are able to live by different legal and ethical standards, purely due to their wealth and power. And our hosts urge bipartisan scrutiny as well as more stringent regulations to prevent private interests from jeopardizing our national security. So sit back and listen in as we reflect on the implications of Musk's unprecedented power. And be sure to tune in next week for more expert analysis on some of the most pivotal legal and national security cases of our time.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Can Jack Smith’s new filing secure a conviction of Donald Trump? Spoiler alert: it's complicated. In this all-new episode, legal experts Asha Rangappa and Renato Mariotti dive deep into the complexities of the latest unsealed filing in the Washington D.C. district federal court seeking to break through presidential immunity and put Donald Trump on criminal trial for crimes stemming from his alleged attempts to overturn the 2020 election.Subscribe to our Patreon here, where paid members will get access to exclusive portions of this show. patreon.com/reallyamericanmediaOur hosts take a comprehensive look at the strategic elements and rigorous arguments presented in the immunity brief, which serves as a roadmap for Jack Smith's bold new prosecution strategy based on a fairly recent, superseding indictment. And they’ll provide insights into how Smith is specifically challenging Trump’s claim of presidential immunity, asserting that his actions were in his capacity as a presidential candidate, rather than in an official capacity.You’ll hear about the extraordinary level of detail in the filing, which weaves together a variety of evidence to paint the picture of Trump’s alleged conspiracy and misconduct. Renato highlights Smith's strategic use of Trump's tweets, which provides a clear differentiation between his official and personal statements.Asha and Renato also break down the significant role of Trump's legal advisors like Rudy Giuliani and Sidney Powell, who not only provided legal cover for questionable activities, but may have also contributed to the smokescreen of legitimacy around claims of election fraud. Lastly, Asha explains how the  committee also laid the groundwork for much of the evidence now seen in Jack Smith’s prosecution filing. Our hosts reveal the impact of the January 6th committee's findings on shaping public understanding of these events, and explore the potential defenses Trump will likely employ. We hope you enjoy this episode. Be sure to join us next week as Asha and Renato continue to untangle the complexities of all of the most important legal drama in America’s history as a democracy. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week New York Mayor Eric Adams was indicted for allegedly receiving illegal campaign contributions from foreign nationals, using straw donors and a quid-pro-quo arrangement. So just how strong are the charges? As hosts Renato Mariotti and Asha Ranagga explain, It’s Complicated. Subscribe to our Patreon here, where paid members will get access to exclusive portions of this show. patreon.com/reallyamericanmediaWe’ll discuss the multifaceted elements of the charges, including campaign finance fraud, bribery, and foreign influence. Renato, a former federal prosecutor, recaps the arduous investigative journey it would require to crack this case, and discusses the many legal challenges a trial will face.They explore the intersection of national security and public corruption, and cover a broader trend of foreign influence in U.S. politics, with cases involving influences from Egypt, Turkey, and Russia. You’ll also hear about the diplomatic and geopolitical nuances of these examples and find out how such revelations can derail international relations and domestic policies.Adams is also accused of using the foreign funds to receive matching money from New York State, and allegedly provided favors in exchange for the contributions. According to the indictment, Adams received lavish perks and benefits from Turkish Airlines in exchange for intervening to secure a fire safety certificate for a Turkish skyscraper, despite significant fire code violations. You won’t believe what else Adams allegedly gave them in exchange. But critical questions remain - like who in Eric Adams’ circle is cooperating with authorities?Asha breaks down Adam's broader scheme, and explains why even though many individuals are implicated in the web of corruption, Adams is the only named defendant. Renato and Asha agree that while the legalities of the case present serious challenges, the overall perception of Adams trading influence with a foreign government will not sit well with a jury. And they’ll explain why the indictment is as much about exposing the foreign influence on U.S. officials as it is about prosecuting the specific charges.For more expert analysis and in-depth discussions on high-profile legal cases, be sure to tune in next week. Stay informed, stay engaged, and be part of the conversation about the future of American justice, right here on It's Complicated. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode, hosts Renato Mariotti and Asha Rangappa analyze the bombshell arrest of music mogul P. Diddy, and the shocking charges he faces of sexual assault, kidnapping, bribery, and obstruction of justice. Find out how Diddy’s indictment is a part of a growing Department of Justice trend of applying the RICO statute to prosecute celebrity-involved scandals and domestic terrorism.Subscribe to our Patreon here, where paid members will get access to exclusive portions of this show. patreon.com/reallyamericanmediaWe’ll unpack Diddy’s complex legal charges, and discuss how the RICO statute—a law originally designed to combat organized crime-plays into it all. Find out here how Department of Justice strategies have evolved to meet the growing challenges of prosecuting hate crimes, domestic terrorism, and sex trafficking.Our hosts discuss how R. Kelly's case compares to Diddy’s, and they give us all the details on a new disturbing indictment of members from the Terrorgram Collective, a white supremacist group spreading violence and extremism globally using the Telegram app. The RICO statute is typically used to address organized crime where a hierarchical structure exists, making its application to a celebrity's entourage and business operations novel and intriguing. Asha and Renato highlight the innovative application of RICO, and the Justice Department's evolving strategies in countering both celebrity-involved scandals and organized hate crimes.How successful will federal prosecutors be in prosecuting these cases? What kind of defense will Diddy’s legal team offer up? And how could this impact the rest of the entertainment industry? Get the answers right here.And be sure to tune in next week, as Asha and Renato continue to provide the expert analysis and legal insight you need on another very special episode. Stay informed, stay engaged, and be part of the conversation about the future of American justice, right here on It’s Complicated.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices