
It's Complicated
Join former federal prosecutor Renato Mariotti and former FBI Special Agent and Yale Law School lecturer Asha Rangappa as they break down for Legal AF the biggest legal and political stories with sharp insight, real experience, and an unapologetic pro-democracy perspective. No spin, no both-sides nonsense — just the facts, the law, and what it all means for our democracy.
Latest episodes

Feb 23, 2021 • 41min
Post-Vaccine Epidemic: What do the next six months hold? (with Roby Bhattacharyya)
Renato discussed whether and how the COVID-19 pandemic would be curtailed and controlled as vaccine distribution becomes more widespread. He was joined by infectious disease doctor Roby Bhattacharyya, who practices at Massachusetts General Hospital and teaches at Harvard Medical School.
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Feb 12, 2021 • 37min
Second Impeachment Trial Unfolds: Will It Matter? (with Norm Eisen)
Renato discussed developments in the second impeachment trial of Donald Trump. He was joined by Norm Eisen, who was part of the trial team for the House managers in Trump's first impeachment trial.
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Feb 1, 2021 • 1h 2min
GameStop Frenzy: Do the Traders or Companies Have Any Liability? (with Jerome Tomas)
Renato and Patti discussed the legal implications of the massive trading interest in GameStop stock. They were joined by former SEC Attorney Jerome Tomas.
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Jan 27, 2021 • 1h 7min
Second Impeachment Trial: How Will It Unfold (with Daniel Goldman)
Renato and Patti discuss the second impeachment trial of Donald Trump after the presentation of the article of impeachment to the U.S. Senate. They were joined by Daniel Goldman, who was lead counsel for House Democrats during the first impeachment of Donald Trump.
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Jan 20, 2021 • 1h 10min
Aftermath of the Attack: Can All the Insurrectionists be Brought to Justice? (with Ken White)
Renato and Patti discuss the federal and state indictments and investigations arising from the assault on the U.S. Capitol. They were joined by former federal prosecutor Ken White, who writes and tweets under the pseudonym "Popehat."
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Jan 11, 2021 • 1h 48min
Attack on the Capitol: Can All the Perpetrators be Brought to Justice? (with Michael Zeldin)
Renato and Patti discussed the pro-Trump terrorist attack on the U.S. Capitol and the legal liability faced by the perpetrators and instigators of the attack. They were joined by Michael Zeldin, a former senior U.S. Department of Justice official and former Deputy Chief Counsel to the U.S. House of Representatives Foreign Affairs Committee.
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Jan 5, 2021 • 57min
Trump on Tape: Did He Commit a Crime? (with Joyce Vance)
Renato and Patti discuss Trump’s attempt to push the Georgia Secretary of State to change the election results in his favor. They were joined by MSNBC Legal Analyst Joyce White Vance, former U.S. Attorney for the Northern District of Alabama.
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Dec 31, 2020 • 1h 11min
Indicting Trump: How Should the Biden Administration Handle the Issue of Charging Trump? (with Asha Rangappa)
Renato and Patti discussed how the Biden Administration should handle the issue of investigating and considering criminal charges against Donald Trump after he leaves office. They were joined by former FBI counterintelligence agent Asha Rangappa, a CNN Legal and National Security Analyst.
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Dec 8, 2020 • 58min
Pardon Scheme: Can Trump Pardon Himself, His Family, and His Associates? (with Rachel Barkow)
Renato and Patti discuss recent reports that Trump is considering pardoning his family and his attorney Rudy Giuliani. They were joined by NYU Law Professor Rachel Barkow, who has written about Trump's use of the pardon power.
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Nov 23, 2020 • 1h 11min
Combating Division and Disinformation: What Can We Do to Heal the Wounds Trump Created? (with John Mitnick)
Renato and Patti discuss the division, strife, and distrust caused by Donald Trump and the disinformation spread by Trump and his allies, and how the nation can recover in the wake of Joe Biden's victory. They were joined by John Mitnick, former General Counsel of the Department of Homeland Security, who was fired by Trump after he reportedly pushed back against some of Trump's illegal proposals and later publicly supported Biden.
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