
Second in Command: The Chief Behind the Chief with Cameron Herold
Welcome to the “Second in Command” Podcast hosted by Cameron Herold, brought to you by the COO Alliance, where top-level COOs share their insights, tactics, and strategies that made them the Chief Behind the Chief.
Cameron Herold founded the COO Alliance with one simple goal in mind: to provide COOs with the same professional development and growth opportunities CEOs have enjoyed for many years. COO Alliance is the world's leading network for the Second in Command.
Cameron Herold is a top business consultant, best-selling author, and speaker. He’s the mastermind behind hundreds of companies’ exponential growth and he’s touched thousands of businesses indirectly through his work.
Latest episodes

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Jan 2, 2025 • 13min
Ep. 437 - Rethinking Your Life Priorities
Explore the delicate balance between ambition and personal well-being in our tech-driven world. Discover how entrepreneurial pursuits can lead to neglecting deeper connections and self-care. Gain insights into redefining success by reclaiming time for leisure and relationships. Learn the importance of crafting a vivid vision for your future and the transformative power of setting intentional goals. Embrace a holistic approach to life that harmonizes work with joy, and discover strategies to appreciate the journey over the destination.

Dec 31, 2024 • 38min
Ep. 436 - Quickly Hire COO, Emily Hunkler
In today's episode of the Second in Command podcast, Cameron is joined by Emily Hunkler, Chief Operating Officer of Quickly Hire, a staffing and recruiting agency.You'll hear the journey of a driven COO who shares her insights on building effective teams and fostering a thriving company culture. Emily discusses the importance of collaboration and adaptability in achieving ambitious goals, even when the path forward is uncertain.Discover a unique approach to scaling businesses through innovative solutions that prioritize flexibility and efficiency. Drawing from personal experiences and the company’s own practices, Emily explores how leveraging fractional talent can empower organizations to achieve impactful results while remaining agile in dynamic markets.This episode offers insights into the transformative power of embracing discomfort and taking risks in both professional and personal growth.If you've enjoyed this episode of the Second in Command podcast, be sure to leave a review and subscribe today!Enjoy!In This Episode You'll Learn:The benefits of hiring fractional talent, including guaranteed weekly hours and the ability to grow teams. (9:54)The importance of communication skills and language proficiency for global talent. (14:13)Quickly Hire's marketing strategy, focusing on direct outreach and building a community for pros. (28:23)The challenges of managing a remote team and the importance of clear communication and regular check-ins. (30:52)And much more...Resources:Connect with Emily: Website | LinkedInConnect with Cameron: Website | LinkedInGet Cameron’s latest book "Second in Command: Unleash the Power of Your COO"Get Cameron’s online course – Invest In Your Leaders

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Dec 26, 2024 • 17min
Ep. 435 - Crafting a Vivid Vision for Unstoppable Growth
This discussion dives into the importance of crafting a vivid vision to unite and inspire teams. Miscommunication often derails progress, but a compelling future state can foster creativity and excitement. Traditional mission statements fall short, making way for dynamic storytelling that aligns organizational goals. Practical strategies are offered for mapping out a vision, prioritizing foundational tasks, and utilizing unconventional tools for creativity. The episode emphasizes that clarity in purpose ignites motivation and meaningful work within teams.

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Dec 24, 2024 • 43min
Ep. 434 - Trellis COO, Ross Beyeler
In today's episode of the Second in Command podcast, Cameron is joined by Ross Beyeler, Chief Operating Officer of Trellis, a full-service eCommerce solutions agency.During this fascinating conversation, you'll gain insights into the complexities of entrepreneurship, growth, and integration in the ever-evolving business landscape. Through personal anecdotes and insights, Ross reflects on the challenges of balancing ambition with vision, offering a candid perspective on lessons learned from early ventures.You'll discover the significance of clarity in leadership roles, the value of systems for scaling operations, and the power of strategic frameworks for managing organizational dynamics. By exploring tools that foster alignment and problem-solving, discover the necessity of intentional planning and thoughtful execution in the midst of rapid change.This episode offers actionable insights on driving growth, mastering leadership transitions, and thriving in a fast-paced, competitive environment.If you've enjoyed this episode of the Second in Command podcast, be sure to leave a review and subscribe today!Enjoy!In This Episode You'll Learn:The formation of Growth Spark and its focus on E-commerce, particularly with Shopify. (13:54)The importance of understanding the "why" behind changes and involving the team in the decision-making process. (24:01)The long-term impact of COVID-19 on Trellis and the shift to a more digital-focused strategy. (33:55)The decision to sell Trellis to Zaelab and the vision shared by Evan, Zaelab's CEO. (33:49)Resources:Connect with Ross: Website | LinkedInMatt Wool and Robert "Bob" Glazier episodesConnect with Cameron: Website | LinkedInGet Cameron’s latest book "Second in Command: Unleash the Power of Your COO"Get Cameron’s online course – Invest In Your LeadersAnd much more...

Dec 19, 2024 • 13min
Ep. 433 - Beyond the Hustle: How to Craft a Life of Purpose
In today's episode of the Second in Command podcast, Cameron dives into his transformative journey, whose global experiences have reshaped his understanding of success, work, and personal fulfillment.Starting with a deep family legacy of entrepreneurship, Cameron recounts building businesses, scaling organizations, and cultivating a mindset that prioritizes leadership development. From co-founding impactful ventures to creating a mastermind community for second-in-command leaders, his story showcases the highs and challenges of scaling ambitious projects.Discover the pitfalls many entrepreneurs face — losing sight of hobbies, relationships, and personal growth amidst the demands of work. You'll find insights on stepping away from material excess and embracing experiences, relationships, and personal growth, which highlight a paradigm shift from work obsession to holistic living. Whether you're an entrepreneur, a leader, or someone seeking more balance, this episode promises to ignite meaningful reflection on what truly matters in both work and life.If you've enjoyed this episode of the Second in Command podcast, be sure to leave a review and subscribe today!In This Episode You'll Learn:How a family legacy of entrepreneurial spirit shaped Cameron’s career, leading to ventures in franchising, leadership, and building globally recognized companies. (1:10)The importance of the COO role in scaling businesses, exemplified by his pivotal work with organizations like 1-800-GOT-JUNK. (2:20)How entrepreneurs can move beyond workaholism to prioritize their time and build stronger teams. (5:18)How shedding material excess and embracing experiences and relationships can lead to a richer, more meaningful life. (6:58)And much more...Resources:Connect with Cameron: Website | LinkedInGet Cameron’s latest book "Second in Command: Unleash the Power of Your COO"Get Cameron’s online course – Invest In Your Leaders

Dec 17, 2024 • 47min
Ep. 432 - Pinecone COO, Lauren Nemeth
In today's episode of the Second in Command podcast, Cameron is joined by Lauren Nemeth, the Chief Operating Officer of Pinecone, a fully managed vector database company.The conversation explores the mindset, challenges, and strategies that fuel success. Lauren shares insights into what it takes to inspire high performance within teams, including the importance of cultivating strong middle-tier performers to unlock their potential.Reflecting on personal and professional struggles, Lauren reveals how perseverance, authenticity, and continuous learning shaped her path. You'll be invited to consider the role of resilience in navigating career setbacks and the importance of surrounding oneself with talented, driven individuals.This episode serves as both an inspiring narrative and a practical guide for anyone aspiring to lead with impact in an ever-evolving business landscape.If you've enjoyed this episode of the Second in Command podcast, be sure to leave a review and subscribe today!Enjoy!In This Episode You'll Learn:The rapid innovation and investment in AI, noting the competitive landscape where partners can become competitors. (3:59)The role of AI in replacing or enhancing knowledge workers, and the need for employees to embrace AI tools. (5:25)The challenge of coming up to speed on the technical industry and inheriting a new team without a manager for seven months. (12:52)The importance of being well-rounded and gaining experience in different types of businesses and growth stages. (35:09)And much more...Resources:Connect with Lauren: Website | LinkedInConnect with Cameron: Website | LinkedInGet Cameron’s latest book "Second in Command: Unleash the Power of Your COO"Get Cameron’s online course – Invest In Your Leaders

Dec 12, 2024 • 32min
Ep. 431 - Vision Driven Founder, Jennifer Hudye
In today's episode of the Second in Command podcast, Cameron is joined by Jennifer Hudye, founder of Vision Driven, a company dedicated to helping entrepreneurs and CEOs craft, communicate, and execute transformative visions for their businesses.During the conversation, you'll discover the challenges leaders face when articulating and aligning their teams around a cohesive, long-term vision. Through engaging anecdotes and relatable examples, you'll learn how the lack of clarity and communication about a company's future direction can lead to scattered teams, costly turnover, and missed opportunities.Jennifer offers insights on balancing inclusivity with decisiveness when defining a company’s future. Through thought-provoking analogies, the conversation explores why overly collaborative processes can dilute bold ideas, while stressing that leadership ultimately requires courage and conviction.This episode provides actionable strategies for embedding this future-oriented blueprint into the fabric of an organization.If you've enjoyed this episode of the Second in Command podcast, be sure to leave a review and subscribe today!Enjoy!In This Episode You'll Learn:Jennifer's experience of creating a vivid vision in 2016, inspired by a conversation with Cameron. (1:11)The common struggles CEOs face when crafting a vivid vision, such as not knowing what to include, overemphasis on strategy, and vagueness. (4:48)The cost of inaction and the ROI of having a clear vision. (15:57)The importance of replacing vision statements with vivid visions to inspire and align the team. (18:42)And much more...Resources:Connect with Jennifer: Website | LinkedInConnect with Cameron: Website | LinkedInGet Cameron’s latest book "Second in Command: Unleash the Power of Your COO"Get Cameron’s online course – Invest In Your Leaders

Dec 10, 2024 • 46min
Ep. 430 - Mike Morse Law Firm COO, John Nachazel
What does it take to build a thriving injury law firm while transforming traditional roles into revenue-generating opportunities? In this episode of Second in Command podcast, Cameron Herold talks with John Nachazel, COO of the Mike Morse Law Firm, about his role in scaling the business from 24 to 210 employees. John shares how his data-driven approach, leadership mindset, and strong CEO-COO relationship have been instrumental in achieving exponential growth. John and Cameron delve into the value of the Entrepreneurial Operating System (EOS), the importance of fostering respect between the CEO and COO, and how John’s approach to leveraging data and problem-solving has created sustainable success. Whether it’s aligning team goals, managing leading versus lagging indicators, or finding creative ways to optimize expenses, this episode offers invaluable insights for anyone in a leadership role. Enjoy!In This Episode You'll Learn:How to foster a respectful and effective CEO-COO relationship [10:10]Why focusing on leading indicators can shape better business outcomes [8:11]The power of being the “second best” at every role as a COO [6:04]How turning expense areas into profit centers can revolutionize your business [42:15]Why embracing EOS principles can bring clarity and alignment to your team [31:32]And much more...Resources:Connect with John: LinkedInGet John’s book: Fireproof: A Five-Step Model to Take Your Law Firm from Unpredictable to Wildly Profitable Connect with Cameron: Website | LinkedInGet Cameron’s latest book "Second in Command: Unleash the Power of Your COO"Get Cameron’s online course – Invest In Your Leaders

Dec 5, 2024 • 31min
Ep. 429 - Top Class Actions President & CEO, Scott Hardy
What does it take to build a powerful CEO-COO relationship? In this episode of the Second in Command podcast, Cameron Herold speaks with Scott Hardy, CEO of Top Class Actions, about the critical dynamics that drive collaboration and success between a CEO and their second in command. Scott shares how hiring a COO transformed his business, scaling it from $1 million to $10 million annually, and highlights the importance of trust, communication, and clearly defined roles.Scott and Cameron explore practical strategies for empowering a COO to thrive, including fostering open dialogue, managing conflicts constructively, and creating systems that ensure accountability without stepping on toes. Whether you’re a CEO looking to strengthen your partnership with your COO or a second in command aiming to support your visionary leader, this episode offers valuable insights into building a seamless and effective leadership team. Enjoy! In This Episode You'll Learn:Why trust and communication are the foundation of the CEO-COO relationship [10:55]The difference between a VP of Operations and a COO, and when to make the transition [9:28]How to manage conflicts constructively and ensure alignment within the leadership team [15:51]The importance of clear roles and responsibilities in fostering team collaboration [23:09]Strategies for empowering a COO to become a true integrator and decision-maker. [25:06]And much more... Resources:Connect with Scott: LinkedIn Connect with Cameron: Website | LinkedInGet Cameron’s latest book "Second in Command: Unleash the Power of Your COO"Get Cameron’s online course – Invest In Your LeadersBooks Mentioned:Crucial Conversations: Tools for Talking When Stakes Are High

Dec 3, 2024 • 48min
Ep. 428 - AccessSync COO, Brent MacDonald
In today's episode of the Second in Command podcast, Cameron is joined by Brent MacDonald, COO at AccessSync, an SaaS company dedicated to streamlining the sales of complex products for life science companies and accelerating patient access to these solutions.The conversation explores the strategies and philosophies that drive successful leadership in a fast-paced, transformative business environment. Brent shares insights into fostering a distinctive customer experience by blending technology, services, and data into an integrated model that sets his organization apart.The discussion also sheds light on the dynamics of leading a diverse team, including seasoned professionals with decades of experience. Brent reflects on the importance of humility, mutual learning, and leveraging individual strengths within a collaborative, flat organizational structure.This episode will leave you inspired to embrace bold decisions and take proactive steps to create meaningful change in your own life.If you've enjoyed this episode of the Second in Command podcast, be sure to leave a review and subscribe today!Enjoy!In This Episode You'll Learn:AccessSync's business model, focusing on helping pharmaceutical brands sell more of their complex drugs and improve patient access. (12:50)The challenges of building a business with CEO Ryan Roberts, including the transition from a custom software development shop to a SaaS product. (19:53)The leadership dynamics within AccessSync, including the importance of having a capable and engaged leadership team. (27:31)The importance of being present and engaged in both personal and professional aspects of life. (55:15)And much more...Resources:Connect with Brent: Website | LinkedInConnect with Cameron: Website | LinkedInGet Cameron’s latest book "Second in Command: Unleash the Power of Your COO"Get Cameron’s online course – Invest In Your Leaders
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