The Experience Strategy Podcast

Dave Norton, Aransas Savas, and Joe Pine
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Nov 17, 2021 • 38min

Human + Digital Support = Magic

There's nothing better than a human to understand other humans. In today's episode, we're joined by Jess Lynch, Founder and CEO of Wishroute, to discuss the #1 thing most digital wellness companies are missing: human-powered accountability supported by technology. If it's your job to help people achieve their goals, don't miss this episode. In This Episode: [02:00] Introducing Jess and Wishroute. [10:36] Collecting meaningful data and having a human in the loop. [16:34] How Wishroute combines automation and humans for consistent, scalable, and high quality customer support. [19:04] Using meaningful data to motivate and support customers when they need it the most. [25:42] The shift in language around setting goals and how reflection fits into Wishroute's design. [31:18] Gretchen Ruben's Four Tendencies and how Jess and her team use it to turn intrinsic motivation into extrinsic motivation. [33:58] Things to consider if you're delivering experiences and making decisions in service of your customers. Key Takeaways: Wishroute is a unique human-powered platform that helps people improve the way they live their lives and stay healthy. By using strategic text messaging, Wishroute is able to nudge customers forward along the desired customer journey through authentic two-way conversations. Companies aren't providing the support people need to actually change their habits and adopt the product. Wishroute takes it a step further with positivity and coaching their customers to guide them and meet them where they are. Customers on transformational and aspirational journeys need human support to succeed. The most impactful solutions are digital plus human and finding the right blend to have the scale, consistency, and quality. Bio: Jess Lynch Jess Lynch is a prior PwC forensic consultant and Babson MBA, who turned her investigative talents toward figuring out how to help people achieve their goals when they sign up for new products. Wishroute's unique methodology was born from her family's experience with lifestyle change—her brother was diagnosed with type 1 diabetes and her mom wrote a book about the family's experience that helped many families in similar positions. Wishroute's next-generation customer engagement platform increases customer retention and success for wellness companies through AI-enhanced, human text message conversations. Links/Resources Mentioned: Gretchen Ruben, Four Tendencies
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Nov 10, 2021 • 42min

Meaningful Patient Experiences and Digital Health Solutions

Patients are humans. The digital health landscape is constantly evolving, and there is a lot of opportunity for the US healthcare system to better utilize tools and data to improve the patient experience by viewing them as human beings with individual needs and values. In today's episode, we're looking at the intersection of healthcare and experience with Jan Oldenburg of Participatory Health Consulting. Tune in to hear how we can start doing better by patients. In This Episode: [01:30] Introducing Jan and her role at Participatory Health Consulting. [09:34] The complexities of the healthcare system and social environment in the US. [14:58] The impact of Covid-19 and how quickly the healthcare system can change. [24:45] The untapped potential of using data for individualized care and tools that are helping get to specific why's effectively at scale. [30:52] Why both the physical and the digital environments have to cohere. [35:41] Aransas and Dave's main takeaways for experience strategists. Key Takeaways: Participatory health is health care that takes advantage of the individual and respects that person and their decision-making and engagement in the process. Social determinants of health, such as social and physical environment, community, and broadband capabilities, all significantly impact your ability to be healthy. Your zip code is the thing that can most tell how healthy you're likely to be because it reflects all of the societal components that affect your health. Generalized education doesn't work. It's crucial to individualize the patient experience and deeply understand their journeys, needs, values, and what motivates them to drive cost down for the whole system and drive efficacy up. Bio: Jan Oldenburg, FHIMSS, is the principal in Participatory Health Consulting. She advises and mentors healthcare organizations about the evolving digital health landscape. Ms. Oldenburg has focused on digital transformation in healthcare for 20 years. Her experience includes leadership roles in several advisory firms, including EY. She has worked for and advised organizations in all areas of healthcare: payers, providers, medical device manufacturers and software vendors. She served as the Vice President of Patient and Physician Engagement in Aetna's ACO organization and held senior leadership roles in Kaiser Permanente's Digital Services Group and at HealthPartners. Selected consulting clients include: UnitedHealth Group, Philips Healthcare, CareCredit, MedRespond, Synergiq, Healthfully, Spectrum Enterprise, Baxter Regional Health System and others. Ms. Oldenburg is the principal editor of both Participatory Healthcare: A Person-Centered Approach to Transforming Healthcare published 2016 and Engage! Transforming Healthcare Through Digital Patient Engagement, published in 2013. Ms. Oldenburg also authored chapters in the Third and Fourth Editions of Medical Informatics and The Journey Never Ends. She's a board member of the Society for Participatory Medicine, co-chair of the HL7 Patient Contributed Data workgroup, and the former co-chair of the HIMSS Connected Health Committee. Ms. Oldenburg is also a member of the Patient Advocacy & Ethics Group for the Datavant COVID-19 Research Database. She tweets @janoldenburg. Links Mentioned: http://janoldenburg.com Twitter @JanOldenburg
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Nov 3, 2021 • 35min

The Future of Smart Fashion

In today's episode, we imagine a world in which consumers have the knowledge and power to comprehend the impact of our garments throughout their life cycles. We are joined by Amy Lee, the Senior Trends and Insights Manager at Avery Dennison to learn the research, applications, and benefits of smart fashion technology like RFID. Listen in to learn how a little bit of data in just the right place can impact society as a whole. You don't want to miss this one! In This Episode: [03:41] Introducing Amy, Avery Dennison, and RFID. [07:13] Building trust and enabling circularity through smart technology. [15:36] The evolution of repairing and reusing clothing. [19:24] Consumer trends and paving the way for conscious manufacturing and transparency. [25:01] How the entire system can benefit from using digital triggers. [28:12] Using smart technology to be smarter, more responsible members of this planet. Key Takeaways: Attaching a digital identification or a digital passport to a product means that you can have all of the content of the product be verified and accurate, in addition to maintaining a connection with consumers even after the point of sale. Smart technology builds trust and loyalty by giving consumers the knowledge and power to care for their garments long after purchasing. Consumers are increasingly skeptical of greenwashing claims, and using digital triggers paves the way for more conscious manufacturing in all categories, not just retail. Using a digital trigger as simple and accessible as a QR code on a label is really powerful in terms of being more responsible members of this planet. Bio Amy Lee is the Senior Trends and Insights Manager for apparel at global materials science company Avery Dennison. Amy specialises in research and creation of forward-thinking content to inspire branding products and solutions for apparel and footwear markets. With a background in textile design and 12 years of experience in the fashion industry, she has worked with both large-scale brands and emerging designers across the globe to collaborate and drive conscious decision-making. https://www.averydennison.com/en/home.html Links Mentioned: White Paper
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Oct 27, 2021 • 37min

The New Era of Experience Management

Most businesses only collect feedback from 1% of their customers and by the time they've reviewed it, it's too late to effectively respond. It's time to address the problem of biased and irrelevant customer research. Georgina Nelson, Founder of TruRating, joins us to discuss how she's helping her clients collect actionable and contextual customer feedback at point-of-sale. Tune in to hear why it's time to let go of Net Promoter Score (NPS). In This Episode: [02:55] Introducing Georgina and TruRating. [04:02] Examining survey fatigue and the underrepresentation of customer experience. [07:54] The thesis behind TruRating. [11:25] Ensuring actionable feedback by focusing on the "what" instead of the "who". [17:27] What TruRating's customers are saying and how they're getting closer to their customers. [25:04] The problem with NPS. [30:17] The big lessons Georgina is taking from her work and what she's seeing emerge. [33:29] How TruRating is an excellent example of the movement happening amongst consumers towards a focus on context. Key Takeaways: Businesses usually hear from less than 1% of their customers, and the majority of that feedback is from days or weeks after the event. TruRating is a way to give consumers a voice back to businesses in a far easier, quicker, and anonymous manner. TruRating ensures actionable feedback by emphasizing the what and not the who with a super quick and simple point-of-sale rating system. Why it's important to focus on context and driving social proof and organic SEO. NPS alone is no longer the business-driving decision-maker that we once thought it was. Specific situational data gives us a much better read on customers in general. Links Mentioned: https://trurating.com Georgina LinkedIn Bio: Georgina studied Psychology at University, where she became fascinated with how to measure, understand, and predict human behavior. She realized that key to everything was data you could trust, which required sample sizes not usually seen in market research. After graduating George took a turn into law, working first in finance with Clifford Chance LLP before joining Europe's largest consumer association Which? representing consumer privacy and data issues at an EU and UK Government level. It was here she identified a market need for representative consumer feedback. Putting two and two together Georgina created TruRating, a point-of-sale rating system that by making feeding back super simple and super quick, achieves what other survey tools fail to do - mass, genuine customer data samples at speed. TruRating doesn't stop there, all data is shared back to consumers via profile pages, to ensure that the data exchange is a fair one for both parties. With over 250 million ratings collected worldwide, TruRating is now the world's largest platform of validated consumer ratings.
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Oct 20, 2021 • 39min

Why Students Should Be Treated Like Customers

It's time to start treating students like customers. Historically, higher education hasn't leveraged modern customer experience techniques to support students throughout their journeys. In this episode, Cindy Casper, the first insights strategy consultant in higher education, makes the case for taking a fresh look at students' needs. Tune in to discover the powerful insights and experience strategies Cindy and her team employed at Arizona State University to better support students at their institution. In This Episode: [02:28] Cindy's transition from Sam's Club to Arizona State University. [06:50] The downside of thinking that students need to prove themselves to be worthy. [12:06] Examining the shift that happens once a client or student is "won over." [18:10] The importance of making students feel like they matter and KPIs to consider. [23:15] Aspirational vs. social jobs and the impact of having a Success Coach. [29:17] The need to look at student journeys as customer journeys. [32:41] The big opportunity for higher education institutions that want to better understand their customer's needs and motivations. Key Takeaways: There is too much focus on winning the customer or student and not enough focus on their experience throughout the long-term relationship. The shift from marketing to operations can have a significant impact on the customer experience. Like most industries, looking at customer needs and their JTBD reveals huge opportunities to better serve students. By understanding what matters most to these "constituents" we can customize the experience and make it more meaningful. It takes a powerful leader to convince top leadership that they need to think about KPIs and organizational structure to have a better customer experience. Bio: Cindy Casper is founder of Casper Insights, a boutique market research firm that provides insights strategy consulting, project design and analytics to help organizations achieve their goals. Her research and analytics experience spans both supplier and buyer roles across retail, consumer packaged goods and higher education. Cindy is a creative thinker, having devised a patentable process for integrating survey and first-party data to predict consumer attitudes. Cindy is a frequent presenter at insights conferences and webinars. To address the niche needs of colleges and universities, she created Collegiate Insights. Cindy is particularly skilled at working across the aisle with chief marketing officers, closing the gap between goals, insights and execution. Cindy is ABD toward a doctoral degree in marketing from Case Western Reserve University and holds an MBA from Bowling Green State University. Notable Roles & Achievements: Founder, Higher Ed Insights Collaborative, an organization intended to increase cross-industry excellence Managing Director, Knowledge & Insights, Arizona State University Insights and research executive-level positions with American Greetings, Sam's Club, Jo-Ann Stores and OfficeMax
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Oct 13, 2021 • 36min

The Collaboratives With Mary Putman

In this episode of The Experience Strategy Podcast, we are joined by Mary Putman, Lead Digital Strategist for The Collaboratives at Stone Mantel. We discuss how The Collaboratives make learning and research an interactive and transformative experience. Unlike conferences which provide ideas, but rarely support integration into your real-life scenarios, or traditional research that can cost hundreds of thousands of dollars per project, or development programs which can take years to complete, The Collaboratives teach you skills and frameworks to lead digital, hybrid, IRL Experience Strategy in your organization, while solving complex real-life problems at a fraction of the cost of even a single research project. In This Episode: [03:17] Mary's experience as a member of The Collaboratives before joining the team. [04:34] How The Collaboratives came to be and how the program works. [11:09] The biggest benefit to becoming a member of The Collaboratives. [15:40] Participating in The Collaborative in person or virtually. [17:02] The Healthcare and Retail tracks of the current program and their goals. [21:47] The new Experience Strategy Certification. [26:39] The Collaboratives FAQs. [30:29] The ideal participant for The Collaboratives. Key Takeaways: The Collaboratives is a unique year-long immersive program that takes a collaborative approach to solving big hairy problems within organizations and leaves its participants more well-rounded, well-informed, and innovative experience leaders. The ideal participant for The Collaboratives program isn't just for those from big companies. It's for anybody who wants to make a difference for their customers and their experiences. There is an incredible amount of learning and inspiration across the teams participating in The Collaboratives. The new Experience Strategy Certification will help participants in The Collaboratives (and potentially non-participants in the future) become leaders within their organization and deliver a high level of strategic insight and thought leadership. Links Mentioned: The Collaborative at Stone Mantel - https://thecollaboratives.com/ Bio: Mary loves helping companies transform. She has a passion for consumer insights, data and innovation. With extensive expertise in digital, innovation, marketing, finance, and strategy, she brings foresight into the business — championing ways to foster growth. Before becoming a thought leader and facilitator of the Collaboratives with Stone Mantel, Mary led Digital Capability Innovation and Business Development at Hallmark. She led Hallmark's Omnichannel strategy, helped frame the new brand promise and helped launch Hallmark Magazine. Mary drove change at Hallmark as an advocate for open innovation, APIs, social integration, and a mobile-first approach to everything. Mary has extensive speaking experience at large and small conferences. She earned an MBA in Marketing & Finance from Rockhurst College in 1996. Mary lives in Kansas City and enjoys sailing, disc golf, gardening, and biking. She is also a fan of the Chiefs and Kansas City BBQ.
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Oct 6, 2021 • 34min

What is Meaningful Motivation?

More than ever, people expect their experiences with brands to motivate them to achieve their goals. We've done extensive research to understand what this takes and turned these insights into frameworks that any company can use. Tune in to learn powerful ways to design products and services that motivate and inspire! In This Episode: [00:53] What led Dave's team to start exploring Meaningful Motivation. [05:52] How Meaningful Motivation is different from the ways people have thought about motivation in the past. [08:50] The value of purpose. [11:40] Understanding motivation and repairing trust with customers. [15:08] Breaking down the principles of Meaningful Motivation. [27:50] What we plan to accomplish with the Meaningful Motivation practice at Stone Mantel. Key Takeaways: Personal values are now playing a significant factor in our designation of economic value. As brands, we have to get better at really understanding what lights people up. Anyone embarking on a meaningful motivation body of work will probably have to start with building trust as a center point of their work. People don't always know what they want, so asking them won't necessarily help you help them. It's crucial to get underneath the surface to get to the deeper answer. Going beyond the simple exchange of monetary value to do work that adds true meaning and value to people's lives is work worth doing. Links Mentioned: https://gostonemantel.com/
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Sep 29, 2021 • 46min

Ancient Principles for Staging Modern Experiences

From Aristotle and Plato to modern brands like Disney and Apple, staging and storytelling have always been central to our experiences. Tune into today's episode of The Experience Strategy Podcast to find out ways to use these timeless techniques to entice, engage and immerse your customer in your brand's offerings. In This Episode: [00:55] What does economic progression have to do with birthday cakes? [05:25] What does staging experiences mean? [06:00] Aristotle and Plato used the same design principles as Apple and Disney. [08:45] The strategic power of unboxing? [15:00] One of the biggest mistakes companies are making is thinking that moving customers through phases is the same thing as having a story. [19:00] Here's how the Kith brand is selling the lifestyle experience to consumers. [24:00] Why associating stories with theming is important. [28:00] What is the Dunder Mifflin phenomenon? [31:00] What does vibe have to do with the whole experience of a brand? Key Takeaways: Staging experiences is thinking about the experience as theater. There is this innate human need to be a part of an experience and to be on the journey of a story. One of the key elements of staging an experience is that there needs to be a story and a journey customers want to be a part of. Disney, like many successful brands, transitioned from "let me show you a story", to "let me make you a part of this story". Links Mentioned: Kith: https://kith.com/ Cariuma: https://cariuma.com/
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Sep 22, 2021 • 28min

Ecosystems of Wellbeing

2020 reminded us that Wellness touches every part of our lives. As a result, companies are quickly discovering that workplace wellness is much more than in-house gyms, mindfulness apps, and healthy food in cafeterias. In this episode, we welcome Mia Kyricos, a globally respected thought-leader in the business of wellness, to explore the rapidly evolving landscape of Wellness and a uniquely integrated approach for helping organizations across all industries create purpose-driven wellness strategies designed to make companies, brands, services and colleagues inherently well. In This Episode: [03:00] Using wellness as a strategic differentiator in business. [05:30] It's not just what we do and from where, but how we work. [05:30] What is an ecosystem of wellbeing, according to Mia? [11:00] The evolution of wellness and wellbeing in the workplace. [14:50] How has COVID influenced wellness in the workplace? [18:00] How will these changes influence experience strategy in companies? [21:10] Can love be a business strategy? Key Takeaways: Our golden rule should be to lead and design with empathy at the center: how we work, how we live. The pandemic has radically shifted employee and customer expectations of wellness. The demand is greater than ever. There's an expectation of holistic integration: People, planet and community, physical and mental wellness and beyond. Links Mentioned: Kyricos & Associates LLC - http://kyricos.com/ Bio: Mia Kyricos is a globally respected thought-leader in the business of wellness and brand strategy with two decades of experience cultivating wellness, hospitality, healthy lifestyle, and travel brands across 100+ countries. As President & Chief Love Officer™ of , a strategic advisory and referral firm, Mia advances the trillion-dollar business of wellness by activating Ecosystems of Wellbeing™ that span both commercial and internal business interests. Previously, she was Senior Vice President & Global Head of Wellbeing for the Hyatt Hotels Corporation, Chief Brand Officer for Spafinder Wellness, Inc., and Vice President of the workplace wellness division at EXOS. Recently named the Leading Woman in Wellness, and Cornell University's Alumna of the Year, her work and expertise has been featured in The New York Times, LA Times, Skift, Smart Money, Hotel Business, Travel Weekly, Market Watch and more. She sits on the advisory boards of Wellness for Cancer, Cornell University School of Hotel Administration, and the Global Wellness Institute™, a 501c3 non- profit educational foundation she helped to found. Her mission is to help people live well, and based on her latest research, to love more.
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Sep 15, 2021 • 39min

Experience First: Hotelifying Apartment Living

How do you take a simple moment and turn it into something that is memorable every single day? Many of us have had wonderful experiences at hotels, but residential living has been slow to embrace the lessons of hospitality. In today's episode of The Experience Strategy Podcast, we're talking to Trevor Hightower, the founder of Craftwork, about creating meaningful moments for apartment residents and powerful ways to disrupt the residential real estate industry. In This Episode: [02:00] Building apartments has always been more about the physical space and less about the experience. Here's how Craftwork is changing the entire hospitality experience. [08:00] How Trevor balances the needs of commercial and residential clients 12:55] More and more innovators from outside the real estate industry are coming in to disrupt. [15:55] What does it actually mean to have a customer-focused business in real estate? [19:00] A different approach to residential living creates stories where both residents and those who work in the buildings feel seen and valued. [20:05] To keep things fresh in real estate, you have to make changes that are authentic. [23:15] What's next for Craftwork? Key Takeaways: At the end of the day, it's the experience of the end-user that creates the most value for the asset. More and more owners are seeing the importance of experience for their end-user. Craftwork's missional focus and the benefits of Craftwork to their clients, are directly aligned with each other, creating a customer focused mission. Authenticity is crucial for the real estate industry to stay fresh and competitive. Bio: Trevor Hightower's experience in positions of leadership in the military and in the commercial real estate industry have all helped shape his philosophy and passion for community, entrepreneurship, place and seeing others around him flourish. He is the founder of Workflourish, a coworking space in Houston, which merged with Craftwork in early 2018. Prior to this, he was Managing Director of Houston for CBRE. He now serves as President of Craftwork. Tyler (wife), Chase (son), Grace (daughter), and Elle (daughter) are the top of his list to serve and he loves them dearly. Links Mentioned: Website: https://craftworkgroup.com/

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