
Beyond Politics
Politics may be dismal, but the ideas that swirl around it and shape it are fascinating. This is a show that looks not just at politics, but the deeper ideas from history, science, psychology, economics, and technology that are shaping our world. We feature smart, lively, upbeat discussions with people who know what they're talking about and can help us understand the world better. Hosted by Matt Robison: writer, former senior congressional staffer, and campaign manager.
Latest episodes

Oct 2, 2024 • 44min
Were There Big, Hidden Things We Learned in the VP Debate?
Decoding the 2024 VP Debate: Key Takeaways and Insights: Matt, Paul, and Alicia discuss the significant moments and lessons from the 2024 vice presidential debate. There is a lot going on under the surface, and even if the debate didn't move the needle that much in 2024, there's a lot to unpack about the future of the Republican Party, Trump's brain, and how we consume information in America.
00:56 Top Takeaways from the VP Debate
04:30 Analyzing JD Vance's Debate Tactics
09:16 Voter Perceptions and Poll Analysis
13:51 Engaging with Trump's Economic Policies
18:43 JD Vance's Opportunism and Future Implications
20:56 The Debate's Key Non-Answer
24:13 The MAGA Movement and Republican Party Dynamics
27:11 The Role of Expertise in Politics
32:23 Media's Role in Shaping Debate Narratives
37:09 Human Moments in Political Debates
41:59 The Future of Political Debates

Sep 27, 2024 • 44min
Does This Scandal Mean the Election is Over?
Is the Presidential Race Over? Examining the Impact of the Mark Robinson Scandal: If Trump loses North Carolina, he has almost no chance at the presidency. Will the scandal be enough to end things? Also: the indictment of New York City Mayor Eric Adams and the extensive history of corruption in New York politics; the huge strategic decision Democrats must make in the fight for the Senate; and, is there a 'war on pets in American politics?
00:20 The Mark Robinson Scandal
01:20 Impact on Trump's Campaign
03:57 Republican and Democratic Strategies
15:00 Eric Adams Indictment
21:49 Analyzing the 2024 Senate Races
23:57 Strategizing Democratic Resources
32:36 Republican Controversies and Racism
38:57 The War on Pets

Sep 24, 2024 • 35min
Trump's Stealth Plan to Crush Low Income People
What would Trump's actual policy plan be if he got back into office? We can tell an awful lot from what he tried to do the first time, and most of it came at the expense of less wealthy Americans. Bob Greenstein, founder of the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities, joins us to discuss the far-reaching implications of Donald Trump's budget proposals during his presidency.
00:00 Introduction: The Hidden Details
03:13 Trump's Budget Proposals: A Deep Dive
20:29 The War on Poverty: Progress and Challenges
25:09 The Tariff Debate: Understanding the Impact
33:44 Future of the Republican Party
34:38 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

Sep 20, 2024 • 49min
Alicia Drops An F-Bomb On Trump
Alicia's Fiery Rebuke and Trump's Scandalous Rhetoric: Unpacking the Fallout
Matt, Paul, and Alicia dive into the aftermath of Donald Trump's racist claims about Haitian immigrants. Alicia passionately criticizes Trump's loyal followers and the consequences of their actions on communities like Springfield, Ohio. The discussion also explores the broader issue of heated political rhetoric from both sides, the implications of Trump's radical policy proposals, and recent polling trends in the presidential race. And finally, should this new fish speciesbe called...the Trump fish?
00:59 Trump's Racist Rhetoric and Real-World Consequences
02:53 Political Reactions and JD Vance's Role
05:07 The Broader Impact on Politics and Society
11:18 Debate on Heated Rhetoric from Both Sides
18:53 Alicia's Fiery Response
25:08 Trump's Economic Plan: A Disaster in the Making
26:12 Historical Lessons: The Smoot-Hawley Tariff Act
26:52 The Real Impact of Tariffs on American Consumers
27:39 Political Hypocrisy and Economic Lies
33:21 The Polls: Analyzing the Fallout from the Debate
37:17 Kamala Harris: Rising Favorability and Strategic Moves
39:10 Trump's Campaign Strategy: Flawed and Failing
44:00 Debate Performance: Harris vs. Trump
46:49 Closing Thoughts and Fish

Sep 18, 2024 • 30min
War to Win Minds Ep.5: One Brilliant Moment Where It All Came Together for Harris
PART TWO OF TWO-PART MINI SERIES FINALE. As Kamala Harris rises in the polls following her crushing performance over Donald Trump in their debate, we look at the key moments and the hidden psychological strategies that led to the rout. This is the final episode of 'The War to Win Minds' miniseries, and Matt Robison and psychologist Lauren Goldstein run down a dizzying array of mental tactics that were on display and that we will continue to see in the 2024 campaign, including maybe the most important lesson from persuasion psychology--knowing what type of persuasion you are trying to do.
01:06 Overview of Persuasion Techniques
02:31 Kamala Harris' Debate Strategy
05:59 Trump's Response and Analysis
08:40 Psychological Warfare in Debates
22:04 Closing Statements and Final Thoughts
28:08 Conclusion and Farewell

Sep 17, 2024 • 29min
War to Win Minds Ep.4: Harris Drops a Psych Bomb on Trump
PART ONE OF TWO PART MINI SERIES FINALE. We dive into the explosive psychological strategies behind the Kamala Harris -Donald Trump presidential debate. In this episode of 'The War to Win Minds' series, Matt Robison and psychologist Lauren Goldstein break down the mental tactics used to sway voters and what Harris did to
break Trump's brain. Discover how Harris dismantled Trump's arguments and left him floundering by employing clever, counterintuitive methods.
01:50 Psychological Insights into Debates
03:34 Analyzing Kamala Harris's Debate Tactics
05:17 The Impact of Presidential Debates
08:36 Persuasion Principles in Action
17:03 Trump's Tactics and Harris's Response
20:16 The Power of Storytelling and Emotional Appeal
23:45 Harris's Strategy to Undermine Trump
27:58 Conclusion and Key Takeaways

Sep 11, 2024 • 34min
Harris Dominated the Debate. What Will That Do to the Race?
In this quick reaction show, Matt, Paul, and Alicia dive into the aftermath of the recent debate, discussing who won, who lost, and why both parties should maybe feel frustrated. Kamala Harris is broadly considered the winner against Donald Trump but how much will it matter? And will Taylor Swift's endorsement of Harris matter even more?
00:54 Who Won the Debate?
03:23 Debate's Impact and Media Critique
06:15 Republican and Democratic Reactions
11:23 Missed Opportunities
17:19 The Flaws of Presidential Debates
21:18 Debate Moderators and Fact-Checking
28:29 Trump's Dangerous Rhetoric and Lies

Sep 10, 2024 • 28min
The Psych Trick Trump Is Relying On Above All
In episode 3 of our mini series 'The War to Win Minds,' hosts Matt Robison and Lauren Goldstein delve into the concept of social proof, its influence on political campaigns, and why it's Donald Trump's not so secret weapon in the 2024 campaign.
00:32 The Power of Social Proof
03:21 The Reagan-Mondale Debate Experiment
06:35 The Elevator Experiment
07:50 Asch's Social Conformity Experiment
10:30 Social Proof in Political Campaigns
14:12 Trump's Use of Social Proof
15:32 The Double-Edged Sword of Social Proof
24:06 Polling Data and Social Proof
26:02 Conclusion: Recognizing Social Proof Techniques

Sep 6, 2024 • 38min
Is the Kamala Honeymoon Crashing to a Halt?
Is the Kamala-mentum waning? It's a question that was raised in Politico and that's being pushed by the Republican side, especially the Trump campaign. We have some data and some insights from where the campaigns are spending their money. Also, we ask why would Kamala Harris go to New Hampshire? The unfolding legal situations for hunter Biden and Donald Trump, both in court today. And a cute animal story that goes in a disturbing direction.

Sep 5, 2024 • 31min
How the Supreme Court Gave Presidents Evil Superpowers
ABC Legal Analyst Kim Wehle explains how the Supreme Court's decision granting immunity to US Presidents is way more far-reaching that it appears. When paired with the "pardon power," Presidents now wield a devastating one-two punch of power. Wehle is the author of a fascinating new book on the history and law of the pardon, and why Americans need to understand just how dangerous this power has become. Also: a look at the current legal situations involving Donald Trump, Jack Smith's refiling of the election interference case, and Judge Aileen Cannon's dismissal of the classified documents case.
01:34 Jack Smith's Election Interference Case
05:38 Aileen Cannon and the Classified Documents Case
09:09 The Supreme Court's Role and Bias
20:58 The History and Importance of Pardon Power
26:23 Potential Reforms and Fixes
29:53 Conclusion and Final Thoughts