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Every Friday and Sunday, Slate’s popular daily news podcast What Next brings you TBD, a clear-eyed look into the future. From fake news to fake meat, algorithms to augmented reality, Lizzie O’Leary is your guide to the tech industry and the world it’s creating for us to live in.
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Nov 4, 2023 • 31min
Sam Bankman-Fraud
Sam Bankman-Fried was found guilty on seven charges of wire fraud, conspiracy and money laundering and is facing a 110-year sentence. Cryptocurrency, itself, has lost an ambassador, a lot of value, and quite a bit of credibility. Guest: Nitish Pahwa, associate business and tech writer covering the trial for Slate.If you enjoy this show, please consider signing up for Slate Plus. Slate Plus members get benefits like zero ads on any Slate podcast, bonus episodes of shows like Slow Burn and Dear Prudence—and you’ll be supporting the work we do here on What Next TBD. Sign up now at slate.com/whatnextplus to help support our work. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Nov 3, 2023 • 32min
Biden Goes After AI
Biden’s executive order on A.I. indicates his administration is taking it seriously. Does it go far enough? Guest: Cecilia Kang, covering technology and policy for the New York Times.If you enjoy this show, please consider signing up for Slate Plus. Slate Plus members get benefits like zero ads on any Slate podcast, bonus episodes of shows like Slow Burn and Dear Prudence—and you’ll be supporting the work we do here on What Next TBD. Sign up now at slate.com/whatnextplus to help support our work. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Oct 28, 2023 • 25min
SBF Takes the Stand
In this episode, Nitish Pahwa, tech writer covering the trial, discusses Sam Bankman Freed's testimony and defense strategy. Topics also include the lack of trust in his advisors, allegations of money misuse, and the relationship between FTX and Alameda Research.

Oct 27, 2023 • 29min
Self-Driving Cars Crash Into Reality
In August, California regulators voted to allow self-driving car companies like Cruise and Waymo to expand their operations and start offering robotaxi services. 2 months later, after a litany of mistakes, Cruise is pulling all of its driverless cars off the road.Is this an existential threat to the entire AV industry?Guest: David Zipper, visiting fellow at the Harvard Kennedy SchoolIf you enjoy this show, please consider signing up for Slate Plus. Slate Plus members get benefits like zero ads on any Slate podcast, bonus episodes of shows like Slow Burn and Dear Prudence—and you’ll be supporting the work we do here on What Next TBD. Sign up now at slate.com/whatnextplus to help support our work. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Oct 21, 2023 • 27min
Microsoft’s Activision Blizzard Takeover
Since Microsoft announced its bid to buy Activision Blizzard last year, regulators around the world sounded the alarm that the merger would suppress competition in the industry. Now that the deal has officially gone through, should gamers be worried? Guest: Jason Schreier, covering the video game industry for BloombergIf you enjoy this show, please consider signing up for Slate Plus. Slate Plus members get benefits like zero ads on any Slate podcast, bonus episodes of shows like Slow Burn and Dear Prudence—and you’ll be supporting the work we do here on What Next TBD. Sign up now at slate.com/whatnextplus to help support our work. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Oct 20, 2023 • 28min
Inside Hamas' Social Media Strategy
Since war broke out, Hamas has been efficient in getting its message out on social media - both in providing crucial information to refugees fleeing the area, and in waging psychological warfare. How can platforms meet the need for open lines of communication without spreading propaganda? Guest: Sheera Frenkel, covering tech for the New York TimesIf you enjoy this show, please consider signing up for Slate Plus. Slate Plus members get benefits like zero ads on any Slate podcast, bonus episodes of shows like Slow Burn and Dear Prudence—and you’ll be supporting the work we do here on What Next TBD. Sign up now at slate.com/whatnextplus to help support our work. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Oct 14, 2023 • 26min
The $30,000 Zelle Scam
Zelle has exploded in popularity as a fast, convenient way to send and receive money. But the story of a couple who was scammed out of a pool shows there are problems with safety on the platform. Guest: Devin Friedman, journalist and senior correspondent for GQ magazine.You can read Devin’s piece here.If you enjoy this show, please consider signing up for Slate Plus. Slate Plus members get benefits like zero ads on any Slate podcast, bonus episodes of shows like Slow Burn and Dear Prudence—and you’ll be supporting the work we do here on What Next TBD. Sign up now at slate.com/whatnextplus to help support our work.Check out Compiler here: https://link.chtbl.com/compiler?sid=podcast.whatnext.2023 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Oct 13, 2023 • 33min
The Israel-Hamas War Instantly Broke X
Casey Newton, founder and editor of the technology newsletter Platformer, discusses the spread of misinformation on X during the Israel-Hamas conflict and the impact of Elon Musk's influence. He suggests alternatives to the flawed concept of X as a global town square and highlights the decline in trusted sources on social media platforms like Twitter. The podcast also addresses challenges of content moderation and the viability of alternative platforms.

Oct 7, 2023 • 27min
The Man Who Turned You Into Data
Hank Asher was a lot of things: a Florida condo maven, a drug runner, a DEA informant—and a tech visionary who created the mixed blessing of turning everyone’s online activity into an unshakable shadow profile.Guest: McKenzie Funk, reporter for Pro Publica and the author of The Hank ShowIf you enjoy this show, please consider signing up for Slate Plus. Slate Plus members get benefits like zero ads on any Slate podcast, bonus episodes of shows like Slow Burn and Dear Prudence—and you’ll be supporting the work we do here on What Next TBD. Sign up now at slate.com/whatnextplus to help support our work. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Oct 6, 2023 • 33min
Sam Bankman-Fried—and Crypto—on Trial
As the trial begins, SBF is making the case that what he did is typical in the world of crypto. But when the government paints a much bleaker picture of FTX—one riddled with fraud and deception—what does that say about the industry? Guest: Nitish Pahwa, associate business and tech writer at Slate.If you enjoy this show, please consider signing up for Slate Plus. Slate Plus members get benefits like zero ads on any Slate podcast, bonus episodes of shows like Slow Burn and Dear Prudence—and you’ll be supporting the work we do here on What Next TBD. Sign up now at slate.com/whatnextplus to help support our work. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices