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Most Catholics these days don’t think there is a conflict between the theory of evolution and their faith. But it’s harder to wrap our heads around the idea that we’re still evolving—and that God might be, too. This week, we talk with Sister Ilia Delio, a theologian who thinks we can’t separate the evolving nature of our universe and consciousness from our faith. We ask Sister Delio what it’s like to work at the cutting edge of theology, where rapidly changing technology and artificial intelligence might be taking us as a species, and what that means for the church.In Signs of the Times, Zac and Ashley discuss the still-open questions about the legacy and implementation of the Second Vatican Council, which opened 60 years ago this week. Did the council fail? What would success look like, and what would the church look like today if Vatican II hadn’t happened?Links from the show:Did Vatican II fail? Are we allowed to ask the question?Pope Francis marks 60th anniversary of Vatican II by warning against worldly ‘progressivism’ and backward-looking ‘traditionalism’The Emergent Christ, Ilia DelioPeople of God: How Catholic Parish Life is Changing in the United StatesWhat’s on tap?Pinot Noir  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week, Ashley and Zac are joined by Father Thomas Joseph White, O.P., of the all-Dominican bluegrass group, The Hillbilly Thomists. They discuss what the Order of Preachers could teach the wider church about preaching, liturgically appropriate music as well as The Hillbilly Thomists new album, Holy Ghost Power. During Signs of the Times, America’s national correspondent, Michael O’Loughlin, discusses a shakeup at the Newman Center at The Ohio State University. Links from the Show: Holy Ghost Power (Spotify)Who owns the Newman Center? Shake-up at Ohio State highlights the tension between students and older parishionersPope Francis: The devil knows the passwords to our heart. We must know them too.What’s on tap? High Screamer: 2 oz. bourbon, 1 oz. Cointreau, 0.5 oz simple syrup, 1/2 of a lime, juiced. Best served on ice. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Zac and Ashley are unpacking from their recent pilgrimage to Italy. So, they're bringing back an interview from 2021 with the Superior General of the Society of Jesus, Fr. Arturo Sosa, S.J. Behind the mic, Ashley is joined by Colleen Dulle, host of America Media's "Inside the Vatican" podcast to discuss with Fr. Sosa his relationship with Pope Francis (another Jesuit!) and how he interprets the pope's reforming agenda. They also discuss how the Jesuits are increasing their collaboration with women around the world.Links:Read the transcript of this interview here Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Does it seem like the economic deck is stacked against young people today? Inflation, debt, the cost of living and an overvalued housing market can be soul-crushing to younger generations trying to get on their feet and start their lives. The feelings of helplessness and isolation are not lost on Pope Francis, who is calling young Catholics working to transform economic systems to Assisi, Italy, this week. It’s the first ever in-person meeting of The Economy of Francesco!Elizabeth Garlow, an American economist and new mom, will be there, and she joins Zac and Ashley on the podcast to discuss why the current system is failing young people. She’s convinced that it is not enough to tweak the current system; a bold reimagining is necessary. And with the help of Pope Francis, these young Catholics are moving to the frontlines of the movement.Links from the show: WondriumThe Economy of FrancescoLet Us Dream: The Path to a Better Future, by Pope Francis and Austen IvereighAnna Rowlands on Catholic Social TeachingHumanizing the Economy: Co-operatives in the Age of Capital, by John RestakisFrancesco CollaborativeWhat’s on tap?Oberon Ale from Bell’s Brewery Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week, Zac and Ashley are putting the Rome in Roman Catholic. Why did Peter go to Rome? Is he actually buried under St. Peter’s Basilica? And why has Rome remained the center of the Roman Catholic Church for 2,000 years?To help answer these questions, they are joined by Professor Kenneth Bartlett. Professor Bartlett is a Renaissance historian, author and professor at the University of Toronto. He is also the guide of “Smithsonian’s: The Guide to Essential Italy,” which is available for streaming on Wondrium, our partners who provided support for this episode.Links from the show: WondriumWhat Catholics need to know about Kazakhstan before Pope Francis’ visitDiocese of Phoenix creates Office of Mental Health MinistryWhat’s on tap?Brunello di Montalcino  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

What do Justin Bieber, Kanye West, Britney Spears and Shia LaBeouf have in common (besides being famous)? All four of these celebrities made waves by announcing they had become Christian in recent years. Rightly or wrongly, we ordinary Christians often celebrate when a high-profile figure joins our “team.” But what should we think when our church leaders become celebrities?It’s a question Katelyn Beaty explores in her new book Celebrities for Jesus: How Personas, Platforms, and Profits Are Hurting the Church. Katelyn looks at the phenomenon of “celebrity Christians” in the evangelical church, but the trend of priests and pastors gaining massive followings—online and IRL—exists across many denominations and in the Catholic Church. (After all, who’s a bigger celebrity than the pope?) We ask her the dangers of having a faith that is centered on charismatic individuals, how social media is changing the ways we relate to church leaders and how people in the pews can build real community in our celebrity-obsessed era.In Signs of the Times, Zac and Ashley break down some of the top Catholic news stories you might have missed while on summer vacation.Links from the show:Support Jesuitical by subscribing to AmericaMagazine.org!Celebrities for Jesus: How Personas, Platforms, and Profits Are Hurting the ChurchPope Francis releases new letter on liturgy: Catholics need a better understanding of Vatican II’s reformsFull text: Pope Francis’ apology to Indigenous Peoples in Canada​​Pope Francis names 21 new cardinals, including Bishop Robert McElroy of San DiegoLessons for evangelization from Britney Spears’ journey with the Catholic ChurchThe missing piece of Shia LaBeouf’s conversation with Bishop Barron: the stories of abuse victimsWhat’s on tap?Dirty gin martinis  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week, Ashley and Zac chat with Rebecca Jennings, a senior correspondent at The Goods by Vox, who is the author of a new article, “How Catholicism became a meme: One of the world’s most powerful religions is now an alt status symbol.” Rebecca explains why Catholicism’s aesthetic is popping up across the internet, and what that says about the church’s place in wider culture.During Signs of the Times, the hosts discuss the murder of two Jesuit priests in Mexico and the launch of a three year Eucharistic revival in the United States.This is Jesuitical’s last episode of the season—we’ll be back in your feeds this fall! In the meantime, follow Jesuitical on Facebook and Twitter, and you can support the show on Patreon.Links from the show:  TRAVEL TO ITALY WITH JESUITICAL Jesuitical Listener Survey! How Catholicism became a meme Two Jesuit priests killed in Mexico Interview: What is the bishops’ eucharistic revival, and why should Catholics care? What’s on tap? The Jennings: Vodka soda with a splash of St. Germain and a lime. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jesuitical 2022 Reader SurveyThat the Catholic Church is firmly opposed to abortion is not news to anyone. However, what Catholics in the pews think and feel about the issue is not as clear—and we don’t ever talk about it.In this special episode of Jesuitical, we try to change that. In this show, you’ll hear from three guests on a few topics related to abortion. First, Tricia Bruce, a sociologist affiliated with Notre Dame who authored a landmark study about how Americans (including Catholics) understand the abortion issue. Next, Rachel Lu, a moral philosopher and contributing writer for America, who believes that the next focus point after Roe v. Wade will be about motherhood and honor. Finally, you’ll hear an excerpt from a conversation we had last year with Caitlin Flanagan, who considers herself a pro-choice Catholic but still grapples with both sides of the issue. Links from the Show: How Americans Understand Abortion a comprehensive interview study of abortion attitudes in the U.S.The next issue in the abortion debate after Roe v. Wade: Do we really honor motherhood?The Dishonesty of the Abortion Debate: Why we need to face the best arguments from the other sideJesuitical 2022 Reader SurveyJoin Jesuitical in Italy  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Last July, Pope Francis issued a document restricting the celebration of the Traditional Latin Mass, setting off a heated and at times toxic debate between more traditionalist Catholics and those who want to see the reforms of the Second Vatican Council more fully implemented. Is there a way for us to talk about the liturgy without it turning into a war?To find out, we brought on the Rev. Pierre Amar, a priest in the Diocese of Versailles in France. Father Amar grew up attending the Latin Mass and was ordained into the Priestly Fraternity of St. Peter, an order dedicated to the celebration of the pre-Vatican II Mass rite. But he also loves and celebrates the novus ordo or ordinary form, and does not think the two forms of the liturgy need to be in conflict. We ask Father Amar why people today are still attracted to the Traditional Latin Mass over 50 years after the council and what he thinks about Pope Francis’ move to restrict the celebration of the older rite.In Signs of the Times, Zac and Ashley are joined by Colleen Dulle, host of the “Inside the Vatican” podcast, to discuss speculation that Pope Francis is preparing to resign. Links from the show: Will Pope Francis resign? Here are some reasons to believe it—and some to be skeptical Explainer: What is the history of the Latin Mass? I once fell in love with the Latin Mass—which is why I understand why Pope Francis restricted it. Pope Francis on Pentecost: ‘The Holy Spirit creates harmony with division.’ Join Jesuitical in Italy! We want to hear from you ! Please take our survey! What’s on tap?Pre-Vatican II Dewars scotch Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

If we are what we eat, how could our consumption habits not be morally fraught? This week’s guest, Robert Cruz, believes they are, and he wants Catholics to be more intentional about what goes on their dinner plates. Working in the meat department of his local grocery store opened Robert’s eyes to the way meat is processed, marketed and sold—and inspired him to start a small regenerative farm on his own property. We ask Robert what Catholic social teaching says about ethical eating, how eating chickens he raised himself changed his relationship to food and animals, and why fake meat is not the morally superior option many vegetarians assume it to be.  In Signs of the Times, Zac and Ashley weigh in on Archbishop Salvator Cordileone’s decision to bar Speaker Nancy Pelosi from Communion because of her “aggressive” support for abortion rights. Plus, Pope Francis has named a new U.S. cardinal: Bishop Robert McElroy of San Diego.Links from the show:Archbishop Cordileone on barring Nancy Pelosi from Communion: ‘I cannot in my conscience allow the situation to continue.’​​Pope Francis names 21 new cardinals, including Bishop Robert McElroy of San DiegoDear Catholic vegetarians: Eating fake meat isn’t going to save the planet.Regenerative Farmers of AmericaJoin Jesuitical in Italy!What’s on tap?Old Fashioned Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices