CleanLaw

Joe Goffman speaks with Kathy Fallon Lambert of the Harvard School of Public Health about her recent studies, with a team of many other scientists, that highlight overlooked potential public health impacts of EPA’s proposed changes to the Mercury and Air Toxics Standards and the Clean Power Plan/Affordable Clean Energy Rule (if you want to go straight to the CPP/ACE discussion go to 27:15). Links to the mentioned studies here https://eelp.law.harvard.edu/kathy-fallon-lambert-and-joe-goffman-discuss-mats-and-ace/ Transcript available here https://eelp.law.harvard.edu/wp-content/uploads/2024/10/Fallon-Lambert-and-Goffman-scrpt.pdf

With Gina McCarthy, Janet McCabe and Joe Goffman led the team that developed the Mercury and Air Toxics Standards. Hear them discuss the effects of a new proposal to remove the legal foundation of the rule, and what might happen next. Janet's recent paper on this is here https://www.jurist.org/commentary/2019/02/janet-mccabe-epa-mats-revision/ and our recent analysis of the rollback is here https://eelp.law.harvard.edu/mats-cost-benefit-analysis-and-the-appropriate-and-necessary-finding/ Full transcript available here https://eelp.law.harvard.edu/wp-content/uploads/2025/04/CleanLaw-12-Joe-Janet-MATS-rollbacks.pdf

Pulitzer Prize-winning investigative reporter for the New York Times Eric Lipton speaks with Climate, Clean Air, & Energy Fellow Caitlin McCoy about his recent special report, “This is Our Reality Now,” covering the environmental and public health impacts of the Trump administration’s deregulatory agenda in four communities across the country. See the special report here https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/12/26/us/politics/donald-trump-environmental-regulation.html Full transcript available here https://eelp.law.harvard.edu/wp-content/uploads/2025/04/CleanLaw-11-Caitlin-Lipton-NYT-degreg-coverage.pdf

Our Climate, Clean Air, & Energy Fellow Caitlin McCoy speaks with Sarah Winner, Staff Attorney of the Center for Coalfield Justice and Interim Executive Director of the Three Rivers Waterkeeper, about the proposed Clean Water Act rule on the revised definition of “Waters of the United States” and the potential implications of the new rule for stream and wetland protection. Full transcript available here https://eelp.law.harvard.edu/wp-content/uploads/2025/04/CleanLaw-10-Caitlin-Winner-WOTUS.pdf

Staff Attorney Hana Vizcarra speaks with our Executive Director Joe Goffman about the environmental legacy of George H. W. Bush. Joe shares his unique insider’s view as he reflects on one of the greatest contributions any president has made to public health and the environment. Full transcript available here https://eelp.law.harvard.edu/wp-content/uploads/2025/04/CleanLaw-9-Hana-Joe-George-Bush.pdf

Our Electricity Law Initiative Director Ari Peskoe interviews Jesse Jenkins, a post-doctoral fellow at the Harvard University Center for the Environment. Ari and Jesse discuss fundamental principles of electricity market design and whether these principles will continue to apply to a low-carbon grid with high levels of wind and solar. Visit our website at https://eelp.law.harvard.edu/ Full transcript available here https://eelp.law.harvard.edu/wp-content/uploads/2025/04/CleanLaw-8-Ari-Jesse-Jenkins-Renewables-and-Electricy-Mkts.pdf

Our Electricity Law Initiative Director Ari Peskoe interviews Phil Sharp - former Indiana Representative and chairman of the Energy and Power Subcommittee, director of the Institute of Politics at the Harvard Kennedy School, and President of Resources for the Future. Ari and Phil discuss the history of PURPA and its implications for climate change legislation. Thank you to the Harvard University Center for the Environment for helping with this podcast. Visit our website at https://eelp.law.harvard.edu/ Full transcript available here https://eelp.law.harvard.edu/wp-content/uploads/2025/04/CleanLaw-7-Ari-Phil-Sharp-PURPA-40th.pdf

Joe Goffman, talks with Cynthia Giles, former Assistant Administrator for EPA’s Office of Enforcement and Compliance Assurance for the entire Obama Presidency. Cynthia and Joe talk about the Trump EPA’s enforcement policies, including a recent initiative focusing on the oil and gas industry, and the impact they have on air quality and public health. This builds on our EPA Mission Tracker work, available at https://eelp.law.harvard.edu/archive-trump-i-epa-mission-tracker/. Full transcript available here https://eelp.law.harvard.edu/wp-content/uploads/2025/04/CleanLaw-6-Joe-Cynthia-EPA-rollbacks.pdf

Our staff attorney Hana Vizcarra speaks with Electricity Law Initiative Director Ari Peskoe about FERC natural gas facility permitting. In July, 2018 ELI filed comments with FERC arguing that accounting for the economic risks and environmental harms of greenhouse gas emissions in a permitting proceeding is consistent with judicial precedent and Commission practice. Full transcript available here https://eelp.law.harvard.edu/wp-content/uploads/2025/04/CleanLaw-5-Hana-Ari-FERC-gas-comments.pdf

Our executive director Joe Goffman interviewed Dr. Francesca Dominici recently to talk about public health, pollution, and science. Dominici is Professor of Biostatistics at the Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health and Co-Director of the Data Science Initiative at Harvard University. Listen below, or scroll down to read key points from our interview on rollbacks and public health, new science on air pollution exposure, and the recent Trump administration proposal to suppress public health studies. Full transcript available here https://eelp.law.harvard.edu/wp-content/uploads/2025/04/CleanLaw-4-Joe-Dominici-public-health-data-clean-air.pdf