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Latest episodes

Jul 12, 2019 • 35min
Debate: Old Testament vs New Testament
In a lively debate, Howard Jacobson, a Booker Prize-winning novelist, champions the Old Testament while Richard Coles, an Anglican priest and ex-Communard, advocates for the New Testament. They’re joined by Anne Atkins, a Christian novelist who also supports the Old Testament. The discussion dives into literary themes, examining the contrasting storytelling styles and deeper moral implications present in both texts. Personal anecdotes add flavor as they explore how these scriptures shape modern beliefs and cultural narratives.

Jul 5, 2019 • 1h 6min
Jeffrey Sachs on the End of American Supremacy
Join the thought-provoking discussion as Jeffrey Sachs proposes a radical shift in U.S. foreign policy, advocating for collaboration with rising powers like China and Russia. The conversation critiques traditional American dominance, urging a reevaluation of military interventions and emphasizing the need for innovative diplomatic solutions. Sachs explores the economic ascent of China and warns against viewing it purely as a threat. Key topics include urgent climate action, the necessity for UN reform, and the potential for a new, multipolar world order.

Jun 28, 2019 • 1h 6min
Mark Zuckerberg on Trial: Facebook is Damaging Society
In a gripping discussion, Damien Collins, a Conservative MP, debates the societal challenges posed by Facebook. Dex Torricke-Barton, former speechwriter for Zuckerberg, defends the platform, emphasizing its positive potential. Technology expert Nina Schick highlights grave concerns about disinformation and mental health impacts, while Ed Vaizey, another MP, shares insights on regulation. The conversation navigates the delicate balance between accountability and the connectivity benefits of social media, leaving listeners reflecting on Facebook's profound influence.

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Jun 21, 2019 • 1h 10min
Anti-Zionism is Anti-Semitism
In this thought-provoking discussion, Melanie Phillips, a seasoned journalist, and Einat Wilf, a former Knesset member, clash with Ilan Pappe, an Israeli historian, and journalist Mehdi Hasan. They dive into the contentious debate about whether anti-Zionism equates to anti-Semitism. Through personal anecdotes and historical context, they unravel the complex relationship between these ideologies. The conversation critically examines societal scapegoating of Jews, the unique global perceptions of Israel, and the implications of these narratives on contemporary identity and activism.

Jun 14, 2019 • 1h 6min
The Revolt Against The Rich, with Anand Giridharadas and Anne McElvoy
Anand Giridharadas, Editor-at-Large at TIME and author of "Winners Take All," critiques elite philanthropy and the facade of change from the wealthy. He argues that the super-rich often perpetuate inequality while claiming to champion social justice. Anne McElvoy, a journalist from The Economist, engages him in a thought-provoking discussion on the effectiveness of elite charitable efforts. They explore the disillusionment of society with elite influence, the need for systemic reform, and the complex relationship between wealth, power, and responsibility.

Jun 7, 2019 • 1h
The Daily: The Rise of Nationalism Across the Globe
Michael Barbaro, host of The Daily from The New York Times, leads a lively discussion on the rise of nationalism in Europe. Katrin Bennhold, the Berlin Bureau Chief, shares her insights on Brexit's impact on European identity. Theo Balcomb, the show's executive producer, provides a behind-the-scenes look at their podcast journey. They delve into the paradox of nationalism, exploring its historical roots and contrasting civic patriotism with ethnic nationalism. The conversation sheds light on the challenges liberal democracies face amidst this political shift.

May 31, 2019 • 1h 4min
Identity Politics Is Tearing Society Apart
Lionel Shriver, a novelist and journalist known for her provocative insights, argues that identity politics is fracturing society. In contrast, Dawn Foster, a columnist for the Guardian, and David Lammy, a Labour MP, defend identity politics as a necessary tool for social justice. Trevor Phillips, former chair of the Equality and Human Rights Commission, joins Shriver in expressing concern over societal divisions. The panel delves into whether these movements promote equity or deepen societal divides, sparking a dynamic discussion full of personal anecdotes and reflective arguments.

May 24, 2019 • 1h 5min
The Victorians Who Made Britain: Jacob Rees-Mogg vs Tristram Hunt
Jacob Rees-Mogg, Conservative MP and author of "The Victorians: Twelve Titans Who Forged Britain," argues for the Victorian era’s moral certainty and reformative spirit as a guide for modern Britain. He praises notable figures like Palmerston and Victoria for their contributions to democracy and social changes. In contrast, Tristram Hunt, a historian and director of the V&A, questions this idealized view, emphasizing the complexities of the era including imperialism and gender representation. Their debate reflects on historical legacies and their relevance in today's post-Brexit landscape.

May 17, 2019 • 43min
Jennifer Eberhardt and Razia Iqbal on the Psychology of Racial Bias
In a compelling discussion, Jennifer Eberhardt, a Stanford Social Psychologist and author of Biased, joins BBC's Razia Iqbal to unpack the psychology of racial bias. They explore how biases are unconsciously formed, starting from childhood, and the critical need for open conversations about these issues. Eberhardt highlights the transformative power of education in prisons, the legacy of leaders like Barack Obama, and the influence of figures like W.E. Du Bois on understanding racial responsibility. This insightful dialogue sheds light on confronting systemic prejudices.

May 10, 2019 • 53min
Eric Kaufmann and Razia Iqbal on the End of White Majorities
Eric Kaufmann, a Birkbeck politics professor and author of "Whiteshift," teams up with BBC's Razia Iqbal to discuss seismic demographic shifts in Western societies. They explore how white majorities are approaching minority status and the implications for politics. The conversation dives into identity politics, arguing it drives populism more than economic factors. Kaufmann emphasizes the need for nuanced discussions on racial identity, while advocating for humane immigration policies that address societal concerns, fostering inclusivity over division.