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Sep 1, 2023 • 1h 32min

Aravind Ravichandran: From Images to Actions: An Introduction to Earth Observation - MBM#50

Aravind Ravichandran, founder of TerraWatch Space, demystifies Earth Observation. They discuss the 5 layers of the industry, the importance of insights and analytics, Terawatch's services, due diligence, future advancements, and the significance of communication and education in the field.
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Aug 15, 2023 • 1h 44min

Steve Brumby: Governments Need Better Maps, Impact Observatory, Descartes Labs & National Geographic - MBM#49

Steve Brumby is the founder & CTO of Impact Observatory, a company working on providing rapid land cover maps anywhere on Earth. He puts it as wanting to provide "the maps the US takes for granted, all around the globe". Steve was also a co-founder & the CTO at Descartes Labs and worked at National Geographic.---Episode Sponsor: OpenCageUse OpenCage for your geocoding needs with their API. They have a generous Free trial you can sign up to!---About Steve BrumbyTwitterLinkedInShownotesAlexnet WikipediaImageNetProf Fei-Fei LiRoadrunner supercomputerIBM's Cell-based Roadrunner is world's fastest (2008)Mediations: A Requiem for Descartes Labs by Mark Johnson2015 Bloomberg article on Descartes Labs Corn predictionImpact ObservatoryPromptpod podcastTrue Names by Vernor Vinge (Affiliate Link)Timestamps(00:00) - Introduction(01:37) - Sponsor(03:17) - How would you describe yourself(04:07) - Academia vs Entrepreneurship(05:21) - The urge to implement(12:03) - The rise of Deep Learning in Computer Vision after AlexNet(17:24) - Making a Dataset Equivalent to how much a Human Eye Sees(18:50) - A SuperComputer made of PlayStation 3s(22:17) - Descartes Labs(28:25) - Working at National Geographic(41:06) - Rate of Innovation in different organisations(47:53) - The Cost of Raising Venture Capital(53:30) - Difference between Impact / Angel and VC investors(01:00:17) - Impact Observatory(01:04:45) - Working with the United Nations & US Government(01:13:47) - Greenwashing(01:19:59) - Trust in government/private company(01:22:01) - Validation work(01:28:08) - Communicating Uncertainty(01:30:20) - What are you excited about(01:37:27) - Book/podcast Recommendation(01:41:17) - Googling as the early prompt engineering- Support the podcast on Patreon- Website- My Twitter- Podcast Twitter- Read Previous Issues of the Newsletter- Edited by Peter Xiong. Find more of his work
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Aug 1, 2023 • 2h 20min

Robert Cheetham & Dan Pilone: Building Businesses that Last, Bootstrapping & Acquisitions - MBM#48

Robert Cheetham is the founder of Azavea, founded all the way back in 2000 and Dan Pilone one of the founders of Element84, started in 2010. Recently Element84 acquired Azavea to expand from large scale computing to also analysis. I wanted to talk to Robert & Dan about why they went for an acquisition and why now, if both companies had both been around for so long. Both companies also have not taken outside investment, which made this acquisition all the more interestingSupport the podcast on PatreonAbout Dan & RobertDan's LinkedInRobert's LinkedInShownotesNote: Links to books are Amazon Affiliate links. I earn a small commission if you buy any of these books.Element84AzaveaDan's Previous Appearance on Minds Behind MapsB-Corporation CertificationBook & Podcast RecommendationsThinking In Bets by Annie Duke (Affiliate Link)Project Hail Mary by Andy Weir (Affiliate Link)Mike Duncan: History Of RomeMike Duncan: RevolutionsEnlightenment Now by Steven Pinker (Affiliate Link)The better Angles of Our Nature (Affiliate Link)Timestamps(00:00) - Introduction(03:05) - How would you describe yourself?(04:26) - What is Element84 today?(08:13) - History of Element84(10:43) - From Landscaping & Japanese Studies to Starting a Software Company(24:57) - What prompted Robert to start a business(29:00) - From Solo Entrepreneur to Building a Team(32:56) - From Desktop GIS to Developing Open Source Tools(42:09) - Building Companies that Last(53:43) - Why a B-corp?(01:01:53) - What is a B-corp?(01:07:39) - Why An Acquisition?(01:29:42) - What does the future look like for Element 84?(01:41:16) - Balance Long Term Thinking with the Urgency of Climate Change(01:49:56) - Beyond Geospatial?(01:56:39) - Deciding on a Company Strategy(01:59:57) - What are Robert & Dan Excited about for the Future?(02:14:28) - Book and podcast Recommendations- Support the podcast on Patreon- Website- My Twitter- Podcast Twitter- Read Previous Issues of the Newsletter- Edited by Peter Xiong. Find more of his work
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Jul 15, 2023 • 1h 24min

Este Geraghty: The Importance of Mapping Diseases & Health - MBM#47

Dr Este Geraghty is the Chief Medical Officer at Esri, a former Deputy Director of the California Department of Public Health and a certified public health professional; so the perfect person to talk about how we map diseases, health and all the support around medical care. Este also wrote a book about the learning of mapping applied to covid, which we discuss.Support the podcast on Patreon---Episode Sponsor: OpenCageUse OpenCage for your geocoding needs with their API. They have a generous Free trial you can sign up to!---About Este- Twitter- LinkedIn-  Esri ProfileShownotesNote: Links to books are Amazon Affiliate links. I earn a small commission if you buy any of these books.Ensheng (Frank) DongJohn Hopkins Covid map (discontinued)Lauren GardnerEste's book: Learnings from Covid-19 (Amazon Affiliate)Bill Gates Ted Talk: The next outbreak? We're not readyBook & Podcast recommendations:Blue Zones: Lessons for Living Longer From the People Who've Lived the Longest by Dan Buettner (Amazon Affiliate)Public Health Podcast Network by Dr April MorenoTimestamps(00:00) - Introducing Este(02:52) - Este describing herself(03:25) - How do you describe the work that you do?(05:43) - Why work in Health?(08:22) - How has being a practitioner helped you?(11:19) - Communication in public health(13:53) - Open data vs privacy(16:47) - Anonymising data(18:41) - Geography vs GIS: Is there a difference?(19:39) - The Power of Visualising Data(21:39) - The Covid Map viewed Trillion of times(26:28) - Open data, why not also use open tools?(28:23) - Learnings From Covid-19: Este's Book(32:01) - Contact Tracing(36:35) - Role of private sector(40:42) - Prevention is Hard(45:30) - Has Covid made it easier to Advocate for Public Health(48:11) - Funding Going Down as Covid Slowly Stops(50:52) - End of the Covid Dashboard(51:52) - Keeping a Positive Mindset(55:58) - Este's current preoccupations(58:21) - Satellite Imagery(01:01:45) - One Health(01:03:46) - Climate Change(01:06:41) - Solving Long Term Problems when people struggle today(01:09:15) - Nomadic Lifestyle as an Executive(01:12:16) - Not Always Climbing the Career Ladder(01:15:03) - Reflecting on 1 year of Nomadic Life(01:18:54) - Book/podcast(01:21:41) - What does it take to go to 150 (years old)?- Support the podcast on Patreon- Website- My Twitter- Podcast Twitter- Read Previous Issues of the Newsletter- Edited by Peter Xiong. Find more of his work
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Jul 1, 2023 • 1h 21min

Can Duruk: Felt, Making Maps Fun & Collaborative - MBM#46

Can Duruk is the co-founder & CTO at Felt, a company working on bringing maps to the browser. In Can's own words they want to make maps fun and collaborative. Think of Felt as the Figma or Notion of Maps.Episode Sponsor: satellite-image-deep-learning newsletterTo keep up with all things satellite images & deep learning, follow Robin Cole's newsletter hereAbout CanTwitterLinkedInShownotes(Note: Links to books are Amazon Affiliate links. I earn a small commission if you buy any of these books)- Felt- Check all the shownotes on a Felt map- Westchester Land Trust- The World Bank using Felt- Bicycle & Pedestrian planning- QGIS & Felt- Read Margins, Can's newsletterBook & Podcast Recommendation:Captialisn'tNotes on a Foreign Country: An American Abroad in a Post-American World by Suzy Hansen (Affiliate Link)My Dad Wrote a PornoTimestamps(00:00) - Introduction (01:37) - Sponsor: satelitte-image-deep-learning (02:26) - Can Describes Himself (03:30) - What is Felt? (04:11) - Making Maps Fun (and Why That's Important) (06:27) - Building Something the Feels Fun (09:21) - Why Maps Specifically? (13:30) - The Story of Felt (15:13) - Working with First Responders (18:04) - Making Maps Collaborative (21:37) - Unexpected Technical Problems (25:34) - Dealing with User Input Data (29:09) - Browser-based mapping (34:27) - Figma set the stage (35:21) - Anything that can be built on the web ultimately will (36:25) - Technical Details of Building Felt (43:18) - Where does the name come from? (44:43) - felt.com (46:34) - Target audience (52:42) - Can's Favorite Felt Use Cases (54:38) - Shownotes brought to you by Can (55:16) - Make maps for everyone (56:57) - Having a vision (58:19) - QGIS partnership (01:03:13) - Writing Online (01:06:27) - Can's Twitter (01:08:25) - Languages (01:09:49) - Thinking Differently in Different Languages (01:11:06) - Coming to the US (01:12:31) - Does Felt work in multiple languages? (01:15:30) - Book/podcast recommendation - Support the podcast on Patreon- Website- My Twitter- Podcast Twitter- Read Previous Issues of the Newsletter- Edited by Peter Xiong. Find more of his work
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Jun 15, 2023 • 1h 22min

Zhuang-Fang Nana Yi: Satellite Imagery to Solve Local Problems - MBM#45

Zhuang-Fang Nana Yi is a Senior Machine Learning Engineer at Regrow, though today's conversation is about her story from going to school not speaking the language, to mapping rubber tree plantations and ultimately using global satellite imagery methods to solve local problems.Support the podcast on Patreon---Episode Sponsor: OpenCageUse OpenCage for your geocoding needs with their API. They have a generous Free trial you can sign up to!---About Zhuang-Fang:LinkedInTwitterShownotesNote: Links to books are Amazon Affiliate links. I earn a small commission if you buy any of these books.Qiusheng Wu's TwitterZhuang-Fang's artBook & Podcast recommendations:The Alchemy of Air by Thomas Hager (Affiliate Link)Know My Name by Chanel Miller (Affiliate Link)No Filter by Sarah Frier (Affiliate Link)Timestamps(00:00) - Introduction(02:17) - Sponsor: OpenCage(03:57) - Conversation Begins: Zhuang-Fang presents herself(07:34) - Nana's Story(13:01) - Going to a Chinese school without speaking Chinese(17:57) - From wanting to be a doctor to geography(22:57) - Picking up English(28:27) - Working with Limited English(30:20) - Rubber Trees: A Geopolitical Tool(36:35) - Working with Local Governments(38:24) - Process for change(42:38) - Navigating financial incentives(47:32) - International collaboration vs Chinese gov(55:41) - Work as a data engineer(58:20) - On the ground vs Satellites(01:01:06) - Data alone doesn't lead to action(01:02:28) - Art(01:09:55) - Art in China vs US(01:12:23) - AI Art(01:17:38) - Book & Podcast Recommendations- Support the podcast on Patreon- Website- My Twitter- Podcast Twitter- Read Previous Issues of the Newsletter- Edited by Peter Xiong. Find more of his work
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Jun 1, 2023 • 1h 31min

Jed Sundwall: Making Open Data Actually Accessible (in a world with ChatGPT) - MBM#44

Jed Sundwall is the Executive Director of Radiant Earth, and formerly worked on creating AWS's Open Data Registry, starting by putting Landsat images and then other Earth Observation datasets on the cloud. Radiant Earth is an NGO focused on making geospatial data more accessible, specifically for Machine Learning applications.Support the Podcast on Patreon to prevent ChatGPT from ruining traffic to these conversations, taking over the world and crushing all of humanity; or just because you like my work, that's fine tooAbout Jed LinkedInTwitterRadiant EarthShownotesGenome Aggregation DatabaseCommon CrawlAmazon's Open Data RegistryThe Naive Origins of the Clouds Optimized GeoTIFFRadiant Earth Announces New Initiatives to Accelerate Sharing of Earth Science Datacogeo.orgStack Overflow Will Charge AI Giants For Training DataChatGPT is the fastest growing app in the history of Internet applicationsThe end of the English MajorBook & Podcast recommendations:Seeing Like a State by James C Scott: (Affiliate Link)Analogia by George Dyson: (Affiliate Link)Timestamps(00:00) - Introduction(01:36) - Patreon(05:40) - From Humanities to Tech(06:45) - Marketing(09:39) - Amazon(14:01) - AWS's business rationale for hosting free data(17:16) - History of Amazon Opening Up Data(18:39) - Common Crawl(23:09) - How Earth Observation became a big part of AWS's Open Registry(25:09) - How Cloud Optimized Geotiffs Started(29:56) - Increasing adoption worldwide(31:26) - How Sentinel ended up on AWS(33:26) - Challenges working with non-American companies(37:17) - What does open and free actually mean?(42:24) - Marketing Open Data(43:39) - CERN opening up their data... and nobody knows how to use it(46:18) - Copernicus Program(49:16) - Work at Radiant Earth(52:43) - Mission statement(01:00:59) - ChatGPT is Changing the value of Data(01:03:58) - Twitter(01:07:09) - Census Data Would be easier to get if we could pay for it(01:11:33) - Search Engine Optimization for ChatGPT?(01:13:59) - Regulating training data(01:16:51) - ChatGPT, Google Search & Ads(01:19:31) - Twitter Checkmarks(01:21:57) - Podcast/books(01:27:09) - The Value of Humanities in tech- Support the podcast on Patreon- Website- My Twitter- Podcast Twitter- Read Previous Issues of the Newsletter- Edited by Peter Xiong. Find more of his work
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May 16, 2023 • 1h 38min

Marc Prioleau: The Overture Maps Foundation: Do We Need a New Open Mapping Project? - MBM#43

Marc Prioleau is the newly appointed Executive Director to the Overture Maps Foundation (at the date this episode comes out). Overture was originally announced in December 2022, founded by Amazon, Meta, Microsoft and TomTom, with the goal of providing a open map data. That sounds a lot like what OpenStreetMap set out to achieve... so why start something new? Marc has some answers to that question, and it isn't his first time thinking about the future of mappingSupport the podcast on Patreon---Episode Sponsor: OpenCageUse OpenCage for your geocoding needs with their API. They have a generous Free trial you can sign up to!---About MarcLinkedInTwitterOverture Maps FoundationShownotesNote: Links to books are Amazon Affiliate links. I earn a small commission if you buy any of these books.Overture Maps FoundationSegment Anythingsegment-geospatialTackle the monkey firstBooks & Podcast recommendationsNever lost again by Bill Kilday (Affiliate Link)The Good Fight podcastTimestamps(00:00) - Introduction(01:42) - Sponsorship: OpenCage(03:22) - Conversation begins(06:10) - From Chemical Engineering to Mapping(09:00) - Early Days of GPS: Innovating despite Limitations(11:02) - Having a Long Term Vision(13:12) - Science Fiction as a Tool to Imagine the Future(14:07) - Defining the Overture Maps Foundation(17:56) - But OpenStreetMap already Exists, why make something new?(22:54) - Artist vs Merchant Analogy(27:23) - Companies already are involved in OSM(30:38) - Users don't care how their map was made(33:05) - The face of updates keeps increasing(35:22) - 10 years ago you'd be lucky to have an Estimated Time of Arrival(40:06) - Overture's value: Data or Tools?(44:32) - New tools: Example of Segment Anything(46:35) - Why a Foundation rather than a For Profit?(51:28) - Open means wider adoption(51:28) - Open means wider adoption(55:07) - Google & Apple aren't a part of Overture(59:22) - There are precedents to map "domination"(01:03:18) - Making Decisions as a Foundation(01:10:45) - How many people work at the foundation(01:13:11) - Engineering contributors(01:14:16) - Hiring engineers within the foundation?(01:17:34) - Copyright & Licensing(01:21:30) - Commonalities with Earth Observation & Satellite Images(01:28:20) - Books/podcasts(01:32:36) - Back to Science Fiction & Making Predictions(01:33:23) - Bonus question: Do you ever think about how far we've come?- Support the podcast on Patreon- Website- My Twitter- Podcast Twitter- Read Previous Issues of the Newsletter- Edited by Peter Xiong. Find more of his work
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May 1, 2023 • 1h 18min

Grega Milčinski: The Story of Sentinel Hub, EO Browser & Sinergise: Making Free & Open Satellite Imagery Actually Accessible - MBM#42

Grega Milčinski is the founder of Sinergise, the company behind Sentinel Hub & EO Browser which recently got acquired by Planet. While the deal of the acquisition isn't closed just yet at the time of publishing, we discuss the story behind Sinergise, how it's more of an engineering than remote sensing company and why they decided to get acquired.Support the podcast on Patreon--- Episode Sponsor: Steven FeldmanGeomob podcastJérémy Garniaux - MapstodonMappery.orgMy favouriteSteven's favourite---About Grega:LinkedInSinergiseShownotesPlanet to acquire SinergiseHorizon EuropeEO BrowserSentinel PlaygroundPostcards from SpaceBBC article using Copernicus imagery to track Penguin coloniesTwitter thread breaking down how lost hiker was foundBook recommendations:Ready Player One by Cline Ernest: (Affiliate Link)Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy by Douglas Adams: (Affiliate Link)Timestamps(00:00) - Introduction (02:05) - Sponsor: Steven Feldman (03:16) - Conversation Begins, Grega Describing Himself (04:51) - Addressing the recent acquisition by Planet (07:27) - A Physicist Who Didn't Finish his Studies (12:28) - The Origin Story of Sinergise (23:12) - How Copernicus Data Got Managed by Sinergise (27:05) - Sinergise's ties to agriculture projects (30:27) - Machine Learning (34:32) - Sinergise's 2022 revenue (36:09) - Sentinel Hub's business model (39:27) - Sentinel Hub's Value is Easy Access (42:09) - Marketplaces are hard (49:30) - The story of EO Browser (55:24) - EO browser as a marketing tool (57:46) - Grega's favourite Sentinel Hub Use Cases (01:00:52) - Community & Hosting Competitions (01:04:31) - Money Talk: Bootstrapping (01:08:08) - Why Get Acquired (by Planet) (01:12:28) - Book/podcast recommendation- Support the podcast on Patreon- Website- My Twitter- Podcast Twitter- Read Previous Issues of the Newsletter- Edited by Peter Xiong. Find more of his work
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Apr 15, 2023 • 1h 14min

Mila Luleva: Why Would a Bank Care About Satellite Images? (Spoiler: It's Carbon Credits) - MBM#41

Mila Luleva is the Head of Remote Sensing at Rabobank, the 2nd biggest bank in the Netherlands. Specifically she works on the Acorn Initiative which aims at supporting small holder farmers transition to more sustainable agriculture practices by selling carbon credits for the biomass these farmers produce. Carbon credits are a messy, complicated and often times controversial topic, all of which I wanted to ask Mila about. ---Episode Sponsor: GeoawesomenessRead their 2023 Global Top 100 Geospatial Companies List---About Mila:LinkedInRabobankShownotesNote: Links to books are Amazon Affiliate links. I earn a small commission if you buy any of these books.RabobankProject AcornAcorn methodology for Quantifying Carbon BenefitsBook & Podcast RecommendationSteve Jobs: The Exclusive Biography by Walter Isaacson (Affiliate Link)Jay Shetty PodcastTimestamps(00:00) - Introduction(01:29) - Sponsor: Geoawesomeness(02:14) - Conversation begins: Mila Describes Herself(04:10) - Mila's Motivations(05:50) - So why does a Bank care about Satellite Imagery?(10:01) - Some of the Bank's Inner Workings(12:08) - The Acorn Initiative(16:00) - Small Holder Farmers(17:46) - Carbon Removal Units(20:09) - Monoculture & Agroforestry(22:57) - The Farmers Financial Incentives(26:37) - Scale of the Acorn Initiative(29:15) - Biomass Estimation (the reason for satellite data)(32:26) - External Certification(35:51) - The Challenge of Segmenting Small Farm Parcels(42:51) - Hiring & The Team(45:54) - Mila's Role(47:50) - Banks Still Need to Make Money(53:35) - Quality(55:52) - Navigating the Carbon Credits Scandals(59:09) - Leaving academia(01:02:59) - Open Source & Transparency(01:06:28) - Slow Nature of Peer Review(01:08:49) - Book & Podcast recommendation - Support the podcast on Patreon- Website- My Twitter- Podcast Twitter- Read Previous Issues of the Newsletter- Edited by Peter Xiong. Find more of his work

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