Sound Plus Doctrine

In this episode, Bob and David are joined by Dave Fournier and Ryan Foglesong, writers of the new hymn, All of Our Tomorrows. It’s a fascinating conversation that touches on the songwriting process, the benefit of relationships, and the importance of singing songs that remind us this world is not our home. Watch the live video to All of Our Tomorrows on YouTube: https://youtu.be/EnlllwGdcQM Have a question about this episode? Shoot us an email at soundplusdoctrine@sovereigngrace.com Follow us Website: https://sovereigngracemusic.com​​​​​​ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/SovereignGraceMusic Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sovgracemusic Twitter: https://twitter.com/SovGraceMusic​​​​​​ #soundplusdoctrine​​​​​​ #sovereigngracemusic

So you’re becoming more convinced that God has given us bodies to naturally respond to him in ways that point to his glory and our satisfaction in him. Even on Sunday mornings. But what if your church isn’t in the same place? How do you help you church grow in a natural, biblical expressiveness that exalts God and encourages those around you? That’s the topic of this episode of Sound Plus Doctrine, part 3 of 3. Scriptures referenced in this episode: “My heart is steadfast, O God! I will sing and make melody with all my being! Awake, O harp and lyre! I will awake the dawn!” (Psalm 108:1–2, ESV) “I have told the glad news of deliverance in the great congregation; behold, I have not restrained my lips, as you know, O LORD.” (Psalm 40:9, ESV) “My lips will shout for joy, when I sing praises to you; my soul also, which you have redeemed.” (Psalm 71:23, ESV) “Though you have not seen him, you love him. Though you do not now see him, you believe in him and rejoice with joy that is inexpressible and filled with glory,” (1 Peter 1:8, ESV) Blog post mentioned: Music is Great. Jesus is Greater. Have a question about this episode? Shoot us an email at soundplusdoctrine@sovereigngrace.com Follow us Website: https://sovereigngracemusic.com​​​​​​ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/SovereignGraceMusic Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sovgracemusic Twitter: https://twitter.com/SovGraceMusic​​​​​​ #soundplusdoctrine​​​​​​ #sovereigngracemusic

The way we think about physical expression in our Sunday gatherings is often shaped more by culture, tradition, preference, or temperament than the Word of God. In this episode, part 2 of 3, Bob and David look at what the Bible says about physical expressiveness in congregational worship and respond to each of the concerns expressed in the first episode. And buckle up – this is a long one. Scriptures and resources referenced in this episode: “then the LORD God formed the man of dust from the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a living creature.” (Genesis 2:7, ESV) “I appeal to you therefore, brothers, by the mercies of God, to present your bodies as a living sacrifice, holy and acceptable to God, which is your spiritual worship.” (Romans 12:1, ESV) “as it is my eager expectation and hope that I will not be at all ashamed, but that with full courage now as always Christ will be honored in my body, whether by life or by death.” (Philippians 1:20, ESV) “But our citizenship is in heaven, and from it we await a Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ, who will transform our lowly body to be like his glorious body, by the power that enables him even to subject all things to himself.” (Philippians 3:20–21, ESV) “you shall say, ‘It is the sacrifice of the LORD’s Passover, for he passed over the houses of the people of Israel in Egypt, when he struck the Egyptians but spared our houses.’ ” And the people bowed their heads and worshiped.” (Exodus 12:27, ESV) “Then Job arose and tore his robe and shaved his head and fell on the ground and worshiped.” (Job 1:20, ESV) “And Ezra opened the book in the sight of all the people, for he was above all the people, and as he opened it all the people stood. And Ezra blessed the LORD, the great God, and all the people answered, “Amen, Amen,” lifting up their hands. And they bowed their heads and worshiped the LORD with their faces to the ground.” (Nehemiah 8:5–6, ESV) “And Nehemiah, who was the governor, and Ezra the priest and scribe, and the Levites who taught the people said to all the people, “This day is holy to the LORD your God; do not mourn or weep.” For all the people wept as they heard the words of the Law.” (Nehemiah 8:9, ESV) “Clap your hands, all peoples! Shout to God with loud songs of joy!” (Psalm 47:1, ESV) “addressing one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing and making melody to the Lord with your heart,” (Ephesians 5:19, ESV) “Oh come, let us worship and bow down; let us kneel before the LORD, our Maker!” (Psalm 95:6, ESV) “Lift up your hands to the holy place and bless the LORD!” (Psalm 134:2, ESV) “And I saw what appeared to be a sea of glass mingled with fire—and also those who had conquered the beast and its image and the number of its name, standing beside the sea of glass with harps of God in their hands.” (Revelation 15:2, ESV) “Let them praise his name with dancing, making melody to him with tambourine and lyre!” (Psalm 149:3, ESV) “You who fear the LORD, praise him! All you offspring of Jacob, glorify him, and stand in awe of him, all you offspring of Israel!” (Psalm 22:23, ESV) “Therefore my heart is glad, and my whole being rejoices; my flesh also dwells secure.” (Psalm 16:9, ESV) “And the twenty-four elders and the four living creatures fell down and worshiped God who was seated on the throne, saying, “Amen. Hallelujah!”” (Revelation 19:4, ESV) “The inward attitude certainly holds first place in prayer, but outward signs, kneeling, uncovering the head, lifting up the hands, have a twofold use. The first is that we may employ all our members for the glory and worship of God; secondly, that we are, so to speak, jolted out of our laziness by this help. There is also a third use in solemn and public prayer, because in this way the sons of God profess their piety, and they inflame each other with reverence of God. But just as the lifting up of the hands is a symbol of confidence and longing, so in order to show our humility, we fall down on our knees.” (John Calvin, commentary on Acts 20:36) “Therefore let us be grateful for receiving a kingdom that cannot be shaken, and thus let us offer to God acceptable worship, with reverence and awe,” (Hebrews 12:28, ESV) “With reverence and awe” isn’t the only stipulation God puts on our worship. God also highlights celebration, rejoicing, shouting, jubilation, enthusiasm, whole-heartedness. “My lips will shout for joy, when I sing praises to you; my soul also, which you have redeemed.” (Psalm 71:23, ESV) “My heart is steadfast, O God! I will sing and make melody with all my being! Awake, O harp and lyre! I will awake the dawn!” (Psalm 108:1–2, ESV) “So with yourselves, since you are eager for manifestations of the Spirit, strive to excel in building up the church.” (1 Corinthians 14:12, ESV) “Let all things be done for building up.” (1 Corinthians 14:26, ESV) Have a question about this episode? Shoot us an email at soundplusdoctrine@sovereigngrace.com Follow us Website: https://sovereigngracemusic.com​​​​​​ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/SovereignGraceMusic Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sovgracemusic Twitter: https://twitter.com/SovGraceMusic​​​​​​ #soundplusdoctrine​​​​​​ #sovereigngracemusic

What kinds of physical expressiveness are appropriate and God-honoring when the church gathers? How should we think through the issues of distraction, potential hypocrisy, tradition, and emotionalism? Does this issue even matter? In this episode of Sound Plus Doctrine, part 1 of 3, David and Bob talk about ten reasons people give for avoiding or minimizing physcial expresiveness in the church. Scriptures referenced in this episode: “God is spirit, and those who worship him must worship in spirit and truth.”” (John 4:24, ESV) “When you spread out your hands, I will hide my eyes from you; even though you make many prayers, I will not listen; your hands are full of blood.” (Isaiah 1:15, ESV) “Therefore let us be grateful for receiving a kingdom that cannot be shaken, and thus let us offer to God acceptable worship, with reverence and awe,” (Hebrews 12:28, ESV) “Be still, and know that I am God. I will be exalted among the nations, I will be exalted in the earth!”” (Psalm 46:10, ESV) “But the LORD is in his holy temple; let all the earth keep silence before him.”” (Habakkuk 2:20, ESV) “But all things should be done decently and in order.” (1 Corinthians 14:40, ESV) “For God is not a God of confusion but of peace.” (1 Corinthians 14:33, ESV) “And they cried aloud and cut themselves after their custom with swords and lances, until the blood gushed out upon them. And as midday passed, they raved on until the time of the offering of the oblation, but there was no voice. No one answered; no one paid attention.” (1 Kings 18:28–29, ESV) “The prudent sees danger and hides himself, but the simple go on and suffer for it.” (Proverbs 22:3, ESV) Have a question about this episode? Shoot us an email at soundplusdoctrine@sovereigngrace.com Follow us Website: https://sovereigngracemusic.com​​​​​​ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/SovereignGraceMusic Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sovgracemusic Twitter: https://twitter.com/SovGraceMusic​​​​​​ #soundplusdoctrine​​​​​​ #sovereigngracemusic

Every year as Christmas rolls around, leaders face the challenge of determining what songs to sing. Do we stick with traditional carols? How do we introduce new songs? When should we start? Can we sing Christmas songs at other times? In this episode, David and Bob seek to provide some helpful answers to these questions and more. Have a question about this episode? Shoot us an email at soundplusdoctrine@sovereigngrace.com Follow us Website: https://sovereigngracemusic.com​​​​​​ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/SovereignGraceMusic Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sovgracemusic Twitter: https://twitter.com/SovGraceMusic​​​​​​ #soundplusdoctrine​​​​​​ #sovereigngracemusic

It’s common for members of a congregation, as well as those who lead from the front, to think that the best way to worship God in song is with your eyes closed. Is that a good idea? Does it really matter? In this episode, co-hosts Bob Kauflin and David Zimmer, joined by Bob’s son, Devon, push back on that practice, exploring what the Bible says about the benefits of being aware of those around us when we sing together as the church. Scriptures referenced in this episode: “The precepts of the LORD are right, rejoicing the heart; the commandment of the LORD is pure, enlightening the eyes;” (Psalm 19:8) “But my eyes are toward you, O GOD, my Lord; in you I seek refuge; leave me not defenseless!” (Psalm 141:8) “Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly, teaching and admonishing one another in all wisdom, singing psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, with thankfulness in your hearts to God.” (Colossians 3:16) “So with yourselves, since you are eager for manifestations of the Spirit, strive to excel in building up the church.” (1 Corinthians 14:12) Have a question about this episode? Shoot us an email at soundplusdoctrine@sovereigngrace.com Follow us Website: https://sovereigngracemusic.com​​​​​​ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/SovereignGraceMusic Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sovgracemusic Twitter: https://twitter.com/SovGraceMusic​​​​​​ #soundplusdoctrine​​​​​​ #sovereigngracemusic

In this episode, part 2 of 2, David and Bob dig deeper with Ben Shive via zoom into the topic of arranging your band on Sundays. He covers common mistakes bands often make, and offers wise counsel for specific instruments. This is a great episode to listen to with your team! Have a question about this episode? Shoot us an email at soundplusdoctrine@sovereigngrace.com Follow us Website: https://sovereigngracemusic.com​​​​​​ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/SovereignGraceMusic Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sovgracemusic Twitter: https://twitter.com/SovGraceMusic​​​​​​ #soundplusdoctrine​​​​​​ #sovereigngracemusic

Ben Shive is gifted and widely loved producer, arranger, and songwriter. HIs musical credits are long and include Andrew Peterson, Keith and Kristyn Getty, Melanie Penn, and JJ Heller. We’ve had the opportunity to work with Ben on our Unchanging God, Vol. 1 & 2 albums, as well as 4 singles yet to be released. Ben graciously sat down with us via zoom to talk about arranging on Sunday mornings. In this episode, part 1 of 2, he shares a bit of his spiritual and musical history and talks about the relationship between a band and the congregation. Have a question about this episode? Shoot us an email at soundplusdoctrine@sovereigngrace.com Follow us Website: https://sovereigngracemusic.com​​​​​​ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/SovereignGraceMusic Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sovgracemusic Twitter: https://twitter.com/SovGraceMusic​​​​​​ #soundplusdoctrine​​​​​​ #sovereigngracemusic

If you lead the singing in your church, you know the challenges. But some of the biggest challenges are those we create ourselves. In this episode, part 2 of 2, David, Bob, and Devon explore four more common mistakes to avoid, and God-honoring priorites to pursue. Scriptures referenced in this episode: “Keep your heart with all vigilance, for from it flow the springs of life.” (Proverbs 4:23) “This people honors me with their lips, but their heart is far from me; in vain do they worship me, teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.” (Matthew 15:8–9) “They do all their deeds to be seen by others. For they make their phylacteries broad and their fringes long,” (Matthew 23:5, ESV) Have a question about this episode? Shoot us an email at soundplusdoctrine@sovereigngrace.com Follow us Website: https://sovereigngracemusic.com​​​​​​ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/SovereignGraceMusic Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sovgracemusic Twitter: https://twitter.com/SovGraceMusic​​​​​​ #soundplusdoctrine​​​​​​ #sovereigngracemusic

In the first episode of Season 5, co-hosts David Zimmer and Bob Kauflin are joined by Bob’s son, Devon, to talk about seven mistakes congregational worship leaders often make. While these aren’t the ONLY mistakes you can make, they certainly rank among the most common. The conversation was so enjoyable that they only got to the first 3 mistakes. You’ll have to check out the next episode to hear the last 4. Resources and Scriptures mentioned in this episode: Engaging with God by David Peterson Christ-Centered Worship by Bryan Chapell For the Glory of God by Dan Block Reverberation by Jonathan Leeman Bible Delight by Christopher Ash “All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness,” (2 Timothy 3:16) “The law of the LORD is perfect, reviving the soul; the testimony of the LORD is sure, making wise the simple; the precepts of the LORD are right, rejoicing the heart; the commandment of the LORD is pure, enlightening the eyes; the fear of the LORD is clean, enduring forever; the rules of the LORD are true, and righteous altogether. More to be desired are they than gold, even much fine gold; sweeter also than honey and drippings of the honeycomb.” (Psalm 19:7–10) “‘This people honors me with their lips, but their heart is far from me; in vain do they worship me, teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.’ ”” (Matthew 15:8–9) “How can you believe, when you receive glory from one another and do not seek the glory that comes from the only God?” (John 5:44) “Praise the LORD! I will give thanks to the LORD with my whole heart, in the company of the upright, in the congregation.” (Psalm 111:1) “Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly, teaching and admonishing one another in all wisdom, singing psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, with thankfulness in your hearts to God.” (Colossians 3:16) Have a question about this episode? Shoot us an email at soundplusdoctrine@sovereigngrace.com Follow us Website: https://sovereigngracemusic.com​​​​​​ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/SovereignGraceMusic Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sovgracemusic Twitter: https://twitter.com/SovGraceMusic​​​​​​ #soundplusdoctrine​​​​​​ #sovereigngracemusic