

Sound Plus Doctrine
Sovereign Grace Music
Sound Plus Doctrine, hosted by Bob Kauflin and David Zimmer, is the podcast of Sovereign Grace Music, designed for those who plan, lead, or participate in their church’s Sunday gatherings. Bob has been a pastor for over three decades and leads Sovereign Grace Music. He’s well-known as a worship leader, songwriter, speaker, and author. David, his good friend, is an experienced drummer, vocalist, teacher, and songwriter. Both are now part of Sovereign Grace Church in Louisville, KY, and they’d love for you to join them each week for an engaging, Christ-centered conversation about music and the church.
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Apr 26, 2021 • 27min
Raising Up Future Leaders
Every leader realizes, hopefully sooner than later, that they are going to be replaced. In this episode, we talk about some of the practical ways we can intentionally train future congregational worship leaders. Thanks for joining us!
Referenced in this episode:
Engaging with God: A Biblical Theology of Worship – David Peterson
Humility: True Greatness – CJ Mahaney
True Worshipers: Seeking What Matters to God – Bob Kauflin
Worship Matters Video Intensive: https://sovereigngracemusic.com/training/wmvi
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Apr 19, 2021 • 26min
An Introduction to Lament
What does it mean to lament and how can we learn to lament well? In this episode, we begin the conversation about how our meetings can help people process sin and suffering in a way that is good for them and brings glory to God.
Referenced in this episode: Dark Clouds, Deep Mercy – Mark Vroegop
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Apr 12, 2021 • 30min
Spirit-Filled Worship Leading
What does it mean for congregational worship to be Spirit-filled? We received this question from a leader wanting to better understand why some members of his church left because they said his leading wasn’t Spirit-filled enough. We talk about the importance of planning, the purpose of spiritual gifts, how a leader can grow in spontaneity, and more.
Referenced in this episode:
How Do We Grow in Physical Expressiveness Pt 1-5
How Do We Grow in Physical Expressiveness in Worship? Pt. 1
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Apr 5, 2021 • 26min
On Songwriting with Matthew Boswell
In this episode of Sound + Doctrine, we’re thrilled to have our friend Matthew Boswell join us for a fascinating conversation on pastoring, leading, songwriting, and co-writing. Matt has written and co-written many songs God is using to serve the church today, including, “Come Behold the Wondrous Mystery,” “His Mercy is More,” and many others.
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Mar 29, 2021 • 25min
What Kind of Songs Should the Church Sing?
What are some guidelines for choosing songs that will serve your church? And what should a church member do when their leader is choosing songs they don’t think are that helpful? We’ll talk about these questions and more in this episode, What Kind of Songs Should the Church Sing?
Referenced in this episode:
“What Kind of Songs Should You Lead in 2014?” – Worship Matters Blog
What Kind of Songs Should You Lead This Year?
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Mar 22, 2021 • 31min
When Your Musicians Could Be Better [Part 1]
What if you or your musicians aren’t that talented musically? How do you encourage your musicians in what they’re good at and help them grow at the same time? How do you create a culture where feedback is expected and received? How do you graciously let a musician know they’re not skilled enough to be in the band? We’ll be answering those questions and more in this first of two episodes that address the role of skill on Sunday mornings.
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Mar 15, 2021 • 30min
On Songwriting with Nathan Stiff
In this episode Bob and David are joined by Nathan Stiff, who has written and co-written many Sovereign Grace songs including “O Lord, My Rock and My Redeemer” and “Turn Your Eyes.” Nate tells us how he got involved with Sovereign Grace Music and shares some of the things he’s learned through the years as a songwriter.
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Mar 8, 2021 • 34min
The Pastor-Worship Leader Relationship [Part 2]
In this episode, part 2 of 2, Bob and David are joined again by CJ Mahaney to continue the conversation about the relationship between a pastor and their music leader. Bob and CJ have a history of serving together for over 30 years, 23 of them in the same church. We think you’ll love sitting in on this conversation as they talk about what contributes to a healthy pastor and worship leader dynamic.
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Mar 1, 2021 • 34min
The Pastor-Worship Leader Relationship [Part 1]
In this episode, part 1 of 2, Bob and David are joined by CJ Mahaney, senior pastor of Sovereign Grace Church of Louisville, to talk about the relationship between a pastor and their music leader. Bob and CJ have a history of serving together for over 30 years, 23 of them in the same church. In this enthusiastic conversation, they talk about their history and some of the practices and insights that have contributed to a healthy and fruitful relationship.
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Feb 22, 2021 • 32min
The Role of Instrumentalists on Sundays
If you’re a musician in your church, how should you think about your role? What’s your purpose? How is playing on Sundays different from playing as an artist or for a concert? In this episode of Sound + Doctrine, Bob & David talk about these and other topics crucial for anyone who plays in a band for their church.
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