

Making The Leap
Herzog Foundation
Making The Leap is a weekly podcast hosted by Christine and Chris Stigall. The Stigalls recently made the leap to Christian education, pulling their daughter out of a public school and sending her to a private Christian school. The Stigalls want to empower other families to choose the school that’s best for them and break free from the status quo. They speak with society experts, educators, legislators, psychologists, and other parents to uncover the hidden truths in education and lay the groundwork for change. Learn more at MakingTheLeapPodcast.com. This podcast is produced by the Stanley M. Herzog Charitable Foundation.
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Apr 14, 2023 • 42min
School Choice Expansion in Florida and Beyond w/ Denisha Allen
Chris and Christine discuss school choice expansion with AFC Senior Fellow and Founder of Black Minds Matter Denisha Allen. Denisha's home state of Florida recently expanded its school school program, joining multiple other states in passing universal school choice this year. Denisha previously served as School Choice and Youth Liaison to the Secretary of Education at the U.S. Department of Education. She is a Florida tax-credit scholarship graduate, and now sits on the board of directors for Step Up for Students.Follow Making the Leap on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter and YouTube. You can also sign-up for our newsletter or send us an email hello@makingtheleappodcast.com.Are you local to Kansas City? Join us for Making the Leap's One Year Anniversary event! RSVP here.To learn more about the Herzog Foundation, visit HerzogFoundation.com. Like and follow us on Facebook, Twitter and Instagram or sign-up to receive monthly email updates. Follow Making The Leap on Facebook, Instagram, X, and YouTube. You can also sign-up for our newsletter or send us an email hello@makingtheleappodcast.com.To learn more about the Herzog Foundation, visit HerzogFoundation.com. Like and follow us on Facebook, X, and Instagram, or sign up to receive monthly email updates.

Apr 7, 2023 • 48min
The Importance of Outdoor Learning & Finding a Community w/ Wild + Free Homeschool Mom Kristin Wahls
Chris and Christine discuss various homeschooling styles & communities with homeschool mom Kristin Wahls. Kristin homeschools her two young boys using tools and curriculum from Wild + Free and Charlotte Mason Institute, which both prioritize living books and experiences in nature.Kristin is also a member of several homeschooling groups in her community. She discusses how these groups have helped her along the way and provided an important community of likeminded parents and students.Follow Making the Leap on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter and YouTube. You can also sign-up for our newsletter or send us an email hello@makingtheleappodcast.com.Are you local to Kansas City? Join us for Making the Leap's One Year Anniversary event! RSVP here.Follow Making The Leap on Facebook, Instagram, X, and YouTube. You can also sign-up for our newsletter or send us an email hello@makingtheleappodcast.com.To learn more about the Herzog Foundation, visit HerzogFoundation.com. Like and follow us on Facebook, X, and Instagram, or sign up to receive monthly email updates.

Mar 31, 2023 • 41min
Choosing to Stand Up & Speak Out w/ Nicole Solas
Chris and Christine are joined this week by Rhode Island mom and IWF Senior Fellow Nicole Solas. When Nicole enrolled her first child in kindergarten, she started asking questions of her local school district. To her surprise, the district wasn't willing to answer her questions and immediately retaliated against her. But Nicole didn't back down. She has decided to stand up to the oppressive teachers unions and school districts that hide public information and bully parents. Nicole now advocates for school choice and academic transparency on a nationwide scale. Chris and Christine also address this week's tragic shooting at Covenant School in Nashville, TN, which claimed the lives of three young students and three adults. This was a heinous and evil attack on Christianity, and we are demanding answers along with national leaders and parents.Follow Making the Leap on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter and YouTube. You can also sign-up for our newsletter or send us an email hello@makingtheleappodcast.com. Are you local to Kansas City? Join us for Making the Leap's One Year Anniversary event! RSVP here. Follow Making The Leap on Facebook, Instagram, X, and YouTube. You can also sign-up for our newsletter or send us an email hello@makingtheleappodcast.com.To learn more about the Herzog Foundation, visit HerzogFoundation.com. Like and follow us on Facebook, X, and Instagram, or sign up to receive monthly email updates.

Mar 24, 2023 • 58min
Lessons Learned From Starting A New School w/ Refine KC Founders Matt & Amy Barnard
Chris and Christine welcome Matt & Amy Barnard back on the show to discuss their brand new Christian School, Refine KC. Listen to Matt & Amy's previous episode here where they reflect on their decision to leave public school behind. Now that Matt & Amy are over halfway through the first year at their very own Christian school, they share the lessons they've learned along the way. Are you interested in starting your own school like Matt & Amy? Check out the Herzog Foundation's resources for school startups. Are you local to Kansas City? Join us for Making the Leap's One Year Anniversary event! RSVP here. Follow Making the Leap on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter and YouTube. You can also sign-up for our newsletter or send us an email hello@makingtheleappodcast.com. To learn more about the Herzog Foundation, visit HerzogFoundation.com. Like and follow us on Facebook, Twitter and Instagram or sign-up to receive monthly email updates. Follow Making The Leap on Facebook, Instagram, X, and YouTube. You can also sign-up for our newsletter or send us an email hello@makingtheleappodcast.com.To learn more about the Herzog Foundation, visit HerzogFoundation.com. Like and follow us on Facebook, X, and Instagram, or sign up to receive monthly email updates.

Mar 17, 2023 • 28min
Equipping Students & Families for Success
Chris and Christine share their thoughts on the Christian education movement, discussing how Christian schools are launching and growing across the country. They are joined by Dr. Mark Wilson, head of Santa Clarita Christian School in Santa Clarita, California, who shares his experience in Christian education. Dr. Wilson also discusses the purpose of Christian schools and how they can offer families hope, faith, and a partnership that helps parents be more affective in their churches and homes, equipping their children for success.Interested in starting a Christian school? SchoolBox is a program dedicated to parents, churches, and communities committed to starting news Christian schools and walks you through from inception to your first academic years. To learn more, visit HFSchoolBox.com.If you have already started a school, but would like to receive training to maximize your reach for Christian education? Visit the Herzog Foundation.com and register for a training event today!Follow Making the Leap on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter and YouTube. You can also sign-up for our newsletter or send us an email hello@makingtheleappodcast.com. To learn more about the Herzog Foundation, visit HerzogFoundation.com. Like and follow us on Facebook, Twitter and Instagram or sign-up to receive monthly email updates. Follow Making The Leap on Facebook, Instagram, X, and YouTube. You can also sign-up for our newsletter or send us an email hello@makingtheleappodcast.com.To learn more about the Herzog Foundation, visit HerzogFoundation.com. Like and follow us on Facebook, X, and Instagram, or sign up to receive monthly email updates.

Mar 10, 2023 • 35min
Exploring Your Options as You Make the Leap
Chris and Christine discuss some of the tough conversations that are taking place in our society - both inside and outside of Christian schools. This episode explores conversations that can help families choose the right education for this children. Follow Making the Leap on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter and YouTube. You can also sign-up for our newsletter or send us an email hello@makingtheleappodcast.com. To learn more about the Herzog Foundation, visit HerzogFoundation.com. Like and follow us on Facebook, Twitterand Instagram or sign-up to receive monthly email updates. If you know an excellent Christian school teacher, don't forget to nominate them for the Herzog Foundation's Christian Teacher of the Year Awards! Nominations are open until March 10th.Follow Making The Leap on Facebook, Instagram, X, and YouTube. You can also sign-up for our newsletter or send us an email hello@makingtheleappodcast.com.To learn more about the Herzog Foundation, visit HerzogFoundation.com. Like and follow us on Facebook, X, and Instagram, or sign up to receive monthly email updates.

Mar 3, 2023 • 38min
A Grandparent's Role in Making The Leap
Chris and Christine are joined by Cathy Cole, a grandmother who helped her grandchild make the leap to Christian education. Cathy describes her experience raising children in both public and private school settings. Opinions of public education can differ greatly from generation to generation. Unlike some of her peers, Cathy has recognized the problems with public schools for decades. Follow Making the Leap on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter and YouTube. You can also sign-up for our newsletter or send us an email hello@makingtheleappodcast.com. To learn more about the Herzog Foundation, visit HerzogFoundation.com. Like and follow us on Facebook, Twitter and Instagram or sign-up to receive monthly email updates. If you know an excellent Christian school teacher, don't forget to nominate them for the Herzog Foundation's Christian Teacher of the Year Awards! Nominations are open until March 10th. Follow Making The Leap on Facebook, Instagram, X, and YouTube. You can also sign-up for our newsletter or send us an email hello@makingtheleappodcast.com.To learn more about the Herzog Foundation, visit HerzogFoundation.com. Like and follow us on Facebook, X, and Instagram, or sign up to receive monthly email updates.

Feb 24, 2023 • 56min
Making The Leap Into High School
Chris and Christine are joined by a recent high school graduate, Maddie Sammon. Maddie attended public school until it was time for her freshman year of high school. After her life-changing experience in a private Christian high school, her parents have since decided to send her three other siblings to private school as well. Maddie describes the differences she witnessed between public school and private, her reasoning behind wanting to make the leap to private school, and more. Since graduating, Maddie has also founded her own Christian ministry for mothers and daughters called Raise Up Rise Up. Learn more about Raise Up Rise Up here. Follow Making the Leap on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter and YouTube. You can also sign-up for our newsletter or send us an email hello@makingtheleappodcast.com. To learn more about the Herzog Foundation, visit HerzogFoundation.com. Like and follow us on Facebook, Twitter and Instagram or sign-up to receive monthly email updates. Follow Making The Leap on Facebook, Instagram, X, and YouTube. You can also sign-up for our newsletter or send us an email hello@makingtheleappodcast.com.To learn more about the Herzog Foundation, visit HerzogFoundation.com. Like and follow us on Facebook, X, and Instagram, or sign up to receive monthly email updates.

Feb 17, 2023 • 37min
Students Over Systems w/ Ginny Gentles
Chris and Christine welcome IWF's Ginny Gentles back to the podcast! Ginny recently launched her own podcast with IWF called Students Over Systems. Listen to her latest episode with Senator Tim Scott. In addition to hosting Students Over Systems, Ginny also leads IWF's Education Freedom Center. She shares some of the Education Freedom Center's recent findings with Chris and Christine and explains why she believes the national school choice movement isn't slowing down anytime soon. Stay in touch with us! Follow Making the Leap on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter and YouTube. You can also sign-up for our newsletter or send us an email hello@makingtheleappodcast.com. To learn more about the Herzog Foundation, visit HerzogFoundation.com. Like and follow us on Facebook, Twitter and Instagram or sign-up to receive monthly email updates. Follow Making The Leap on Facebook, Instagram, X, and YouTube. You can also sign-up for our newsletter or send us an email hello@makingtheleappodcast.com.To learn more about the Herzog Foundation, visit HerzogFoundation.com. Like and follow us on Facebook, X, and Instagram, or sign up to receive monthly email updates.

Feb 10, 2023 • 53min
Academics vs. Extracurriculars: How to Shift Your Priorities
Chris and Christine discuss the main draw to public schools, extracurricular activities. Many parents realize that public schools no longer align with their family's values. But they're scared their kids will lose out on activities like prom and athletics if they decide to leave. Why choose between academics and extracurricular activities? Your kids can have both at a Christian school! Chris and Christine share how they started started shifting their priorities and put academics first for their daughter. Don't forget to follow Making the Leap on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter and YouTube. You can also sign-up for our newsletter or send us an email hello@makingtheleappodcast.com. To learn more about the Herzog Foundation, visit HerzogFoundation.com. Like and follow us on Facebook, Twitter and Instagram or sign-up to receive monthly email updates. Follow Making The Leap on Facebook, Instagram, X, and YouTube. You can also sign-up for our newsletter or send us an email hello@makingtheleappodcast.com.To learn more about the Herzog Foundation, visit HerzogFoundation.com. Like and follow us on Facebook, X, and Instagram, or sign up to receive monthly email updates.