What Would Jesus Tech

Austin Gravely, Andrew Noble, and Joel Jacob
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Apr 18, 2023 • 55min

Parenting Well in a Digital Age (with Nathan Sutherland)

There is "tool tech" such as shovels, violins, and 3D Printers, and then there is "drool tech," which pervades digital space. How do we raise our children well in the midst of these devices fueling distraction and depression? How do we promote creativity over consumption? How do we help our kids live from the hope they have in the gospel rather than for the hope offered in screens?Nathan Sutherland is the founder of Gospel Tech, an organization that helps parents who are feeling outpaced and overwhelmed as they raise children in a tech world. He joins us today to help us understand the difference between tool tech and drool tech, how to set hudges (not walls) with our kids, and how the gospel changes the way we parent.Check out Nathan's website, and download free resources today at: https://www.gospeltech.net/0:00 Intro1:10 - The Story of Gospel Tech3:35 - Tool Tech vs Drool Tech7:00 - Operant Conditioning12:30 - How to audit tech use with RESET17:03 - Gospel Tech Parenting20:00 - Lack of tool tech, AI, and the next generation34:02 - Building a Hedge46:32 - Best websites to learn about the appropriateness of certain movies47:20 - Best websites to learn about the appropriateness of certain video games48:55 - Bible verses to talk about tech50:08 - What do you do if you've made a parenting tech mistake?Notes:The Brain That Changes Itself by Norman DoidgeThe Mind and the Brain by Jeffrey M. Schwartz and Sharon Begley (not "Schwab")Hooked: How to Build Habit-Forming Products by Nir EyalAndy Crouch's The Life We're Looking ForTony Reinke's God, Technology, and the Christian LifeAndrew Noble's article on parent settings and apps for phone monitoring.Apps to monitor a child's screen: Bark, Net Nanny, Qustodio, OurPact, FamilyTime, and MMGuardianCommon Sense MediaPlugged In Media Entertainment Software Ratings BoardHaidt, J., & Twenge, J. (ongoing). Social media and mental health: A collaborative review. Unpublished manuscript, New York University. Accessed at tinyurl.com/SocialMediaMentalHealthReviewThanks for listening to What Would Jesus Tech, co-hosted by Andrew Noble and Joel Jacob. Episode 26. To learn more about the podcast or to support us financially, check out https://www.whatwouldjesustech.com/
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Apr 4, 2023 • 45min

Should We Embrace New Tech? Joel and Andrew Disagree (or at least try to)

Joel Jacob is a Tech Futurist, an early adopter, and an eternal optimist when it comes to new tech. Andrew Noble is a ministry leader, a late adopter, and a tech skeptic. Andrew told Joel it's time to work through our differences and find common ground as two Christians trying to use technology as Jesus would if he lived today. We spend a lot of time thinking about ChatGPT as an example but the question applies more broadly: should Christians have a positive disposition towards embracing new technology?0:00 - Intro and our default stance toward tech3:15 - Why technologists feel churches don't support their work8:05 - In the technology world but not of it10:04 - AI, the ChatGPT letter, and the future22:05 - Practically, should we adopt new tech like AI?28:40 - Technology is an idol33:10 - The Unpredictability of AI Technology39:09 - Would Jesus "lean in" to technology?Links:Gary Marcus on A.I. hitting a wall.Jay Kim's Digital ChurchThe Gospel Coalition Good Faith Debate on Embracing New Technology.Episode 24. You can join Team WWJT through our website: https://www.whatwouldjesustech.com/
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Mar 21, 2023 • 56min

Social Media, Anxiety, and Leadership (with Chris Martin)

Social media consultant and author Chris Martin joins us on this episode of What Would Jesus Tech to discuss his latest book, The Wolf Their Pockets: 13 Ways the Social Internet Threatens the People You Lead. We dive into the ever-present anxiety that comes with social media, the impact it makes on friendship, and what churches, parents, and leaders should do about it. 0:00 - Intro1:17 - The Funnies3:17 - Bird Watching5:36 - Why "Wolf In Their Pockets"?14:40 - Friendship and Social Media20:20 - The Metaverse and Friendship23:35 - Anxiety And How Social Media Erases The Backstage28:25 - How Can The Church Provide Backstage Presence?35:30 - Should A Youth Pastor Post on Social Media?42:45 - Should you give your teenager a phone?46:02 - Thoughts on podcasts?52:50 - The Future of Social MediaShow notes:Subscribe to Chris Martin's weekly newsletter called, Terms of Service, here: termsofservice.social Chris Martin's two books:https://www.moodypublishers.com/the-wolf-in-their-pockets/https://www.bhpublishinggroup.com/products/terms-of-service-2/Support WWJTWe've launched a Patreon to give our listeners the opportunity to help us cover the costs of the show. If you sign up, you'll immediately receive access to two bonus mini-episodes on ChatGPT-4 (released March 20, 2023) and Silicon Valley Bank (released March 17, 2023). Episode 23 of WWJT.Visit https://www.whatwouldjesustech.com/ to join us. And as always, thanks for listening!
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Mar 7, 2023 • 57min

The Surprising Story Behind WWJD (with Dr. Jess Joustra)

How do we imitate Jesus in 2023? There is a growing interest in a particular theological tradition and it helps us answer this question in our modern age. This is not the Calvinism of memes, but the Calvinism of Herman Bavinck and Abraham Kuyper. Our regular hosts, Andrew Noble and Joel Jacob, spoke with Dr. Joustra about this history, the story behind WWJD bracelets, the different ways of answering, "What Would Jesus Do?" and how everything (including technology) is religious.Dr. Jessica Joustra is one of the leading scholars in this area. She is an Assistant Professor of Religion and Theology at Redeemer University, an Associate Researcher at the Neo-Calvinist Research Institute, and is currently in the midst of translating Herman Bavinck's final volume of Reformed Ethics.0:00 - Intro3:00 - Why study church history?7:15 - Part of the "catholic" church?9:50 - Neo-Calvinism For An Age Like Ours?21:10 - The Story Behind WWJD23:30 - Should we really ask WWJD?33:58 - How Do We Really Imitate Christ?43:25 - How To Imitate Christ In Tech?49:09 - Recommended Resources & Tech In HeavenTo learn more about What Would Jesus Tech or to support the show, please visit www.whatwouldjesustech.com. This is episode 22 of WWJT.Recommended books referenced:Calvinism For A Secular Age - edited by Dr. Jess Joustra and Dr. Robert JoustraReformed Ethics - by Herman BavinckThe Catholicity of Christianity and the Church - by Herman Bavinck (pdf link)Calvinism in the Las Vegas Airport by Richard J. MouwA Secular Age by Charles TaylorBavinck: A Critical Biography by James EglingtonMere Morality by Lewis B. SmedesCreation Regained by Albert WaltersChristian Field Guide To Technology by Derek C. SchuurmanModernism and Orthodoxy in On Theology: Herman Bavinck's Academic Orations, Editor / Translator: Bruce R. PassWhen The Kings Come Marching In by Richard J. MouwCommon Grace by Herman Bavinck (pdf link)Neo-Calvinism: An Introduction by Cory Brock and N. Gray SutantoGrace In Common - A Neo-Calvinist Podcast
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Feb 21, 2023 • 59min

Y’all Read Scripture? Or Y’all Scroll? (with John Dyer)

Digital technology is changing the way we access the Word of God. But this isn't the first time Bible technology has changed. Special guest John Dyer unpacks some of the key findings of his latest book, People of the Screen, including how evangelicals are shaping Bible apps with Hopeful Entrepreneurial Pragmaticism and how Bible apps are shaping us. Episode 21. Link to all things John Dyer: https://j.hn/Link to People of the Screen.Link to From the Garden to the City. (You can hear a great podcast interview with John on this book over at the TheoTech podcast.)In this episode of WWJT:0:00 - Intro to John Dyer3:05 - Y'all Version (https://www.yallversion.com/)4:40 - The ethics of http://bestcommentaries.com/7:37 - "Tech is neither good or bad, nor is it neutral"?11:00 - A history of the technology of Scripture17:45 - The NAB Version19:28 - How John Studied Digital Bible Use21:53 - What was learned of the differences between book and screen?24:40 - Why do print readers say God is more judgmental?30:40 - The positives of using digital Bibles?32:15 - Why are evangelicals "People Of The Screen"?43:00 - "Hopeful Entrepreneurial Pragmaticism" and evangelicals49:52 - What is the future of Bible engagement? VR? AR?53:27 - What Bible Tech Would Jesus Use?54:15 - Recommended reading58:19 - How to enter for a chance to win People of the Screen
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Feb 10, 2023 • 20min

Hey Siri, What Is ChatGPT?

Should Christians be scared of generative Artificial Intelligence (AI)? How might we use ChatGPT as a co-pilot to aid us in giving glory to God? How might ChatGPT limit us from discovering truth? Co-hosts Joel Jacob and Andrew Noble hash it all out in this shortened - but deep - episode of What Would Jesus Tech. Episode 20. In this episode:00:00 - Intro (Andrew Noble)00:21 - Does Joel Jacob build AI?01:30 - What is ChatGPT? Should we be scared?04:30 - Is AI getting "smarter"?08:20 - Revolutionary but limited; co-pilot not command centre10:49 - ChatGPT is made in our image13:04 - Responsibility and moral agency15:55 - Spirit, soul, and mind19:00 - New website! whatwouldjesustech.comLinks:Logic Of The Body by Matthew A. LaPineCompatibilism - Don CarsonFollowing Jesus in a Digital Age - Jason ThackerThe Singularity is Nearer - Ray KurzweilJohn Calvin and Free Will - Matthew BarrettChatGPT Is A Blurry JPEG Of The Web - Ted ChiangPlease rate our podcast to help support the show! Learn more about What Would Jesus Tech and contact us at https://www.whatwouldjesustech.com/
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Jan 27, 2023 • 47min

Value in Video Games (with Sarah Zylstra)

In the world today, there are more people that play video games than there are who say they're Christians. Is gaming causing a "boy crisis? Is there any good in playing video games? Would Jesus play video games?To help us on this episode, we spoke with Sarah Eekhoff Zylstra, senior writer and faith-and-work editor for The Gospel Coalition. She is also the coauthor of Gospelbound: Living with Resolute Hope in an Anxious Age and editor of Social Sanity in an Insta World. She believes that social media should come with a warning label and she recently wrote something that caught our attention, saying, "Let’s play video games under the lordship of Christ and before the face of God." Episode 19 of WWJT.Check out her original piece on "Gaming Alone" here.0:00 - Intro to Sarah Zystra4:30 - The similarities between social media and gaming6:46 - The Gaming Gender Gap10:18 - How Gaming Is Getting Worse And Better14:50 - Shouldn't We Panic?17:49 - How To Know If You're Addicted?20:03 - A Theology of Play24:21 - Parenting & Video Games29:00 - Parenting, Getting Immersed, and Learning32:14 - A Christian Kind of Video Game?38:42 - Would Jesus Play Video Games?41:05 - Why did Sarah leave Social Media?Notes & links:Listen to TGC's Recorded podcast episode on Gaming Alone. You can find the statistics that Sarah referenced here.TGC's Recorded podcast episode on Social Media.Statistica Gaming Gender Gap.The Rise of Chess.FaithTech's "Missional Tech Trends" brief on Video Games.John Dyer's People of the Screen.
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Jan 11, 2023 • 38min

The Latest (and Greatest?) Technology - CES 2023

Joel Jacob joins the podcast today right from CES, the Consumer Electronics Show. He and Andrew Noble show off fifteen innovations and reflect on whether Jesus would ever go to such a consumeristic event. This one has some visuals, so watching on YouTube may be preferable for you. Audio-only will work too! Episode 18 of WWJT.0:00 - Intro to CES2:01 - Is CES a religious experience?4:51 - Smart Baby Carseat6:37 - Autonomous lawn mower & snow blower8:53 - A bike that fits in a suitcase9:18 - The Truth Brush10:28 - ADHD Test Kit12:40 - New Cars TV News, multi-colored car13:41 - Sony and Honda launch electric sedan14:00 - A Flying Car15:45 - Smart Oven16:22 - Smart Shower16:47 - Personal Infinity Pool17:05 - The Ring Smart Products17:45 - Age Technology18:15 - Smart Urinal20:00 - Smart Pen22:48 - Reflections after the conference24:20 - Does the tech industry only care about rich people?28:00 - Would Jesus Go To CES?31:05 - Funding good works, open source, philanthropy etc.Links and resources referenced:- Stock video footage from https://www.cesbroll.com/- Smart Baby Carseat - https://www.babyark.com/- Autonomous lawn mower & snow blower - https://www.yarbo.com/- A bike that fits in a suitcase - https://ca.e-scooter.co/icoma-tatamel/- The Truth Brush - https://www.truthbrush.com/#/- ADHD Test Kit - https://www.ces.tech/innovation-awards/honorees/2023/honorees/a/adhd-bank-(adhd-genetic-testing-kit).aspx- Multi-coloured car - https://techcrunch.com/2023/01/04/bmw-unveils-dee-prototype-the-next-level-of-human-machine-interaction/- A Flying Car - https://www.cnet.com/tech/a-flying-car-futuristic-screens-and-the-tesla-of-the-sea-ces-must-see-highlights/- Smart Oven - https://www.cnet.com/home/kitchen-and-household/brava-glass-smart-oven-ces/- Smart Shower - https://www.kohler.com/en/products/smart-home/shop-smart-showering- Ring Smart Home - https://ring.com/- Smart Urinal - https://www.zdnet.com/home-and-office/smart-home/ces-2023-sees-the-launch-of-two-smart-toilet-sensors/- Smart Pen - https://nuwapen.com/- Gospel Patrons - https://www.gospelpatrons.org/- Henry Zoo - Open Source -https://henryzoo.com/- Timothy Keller's How To Reach The West Again - https://redeemercitytocity.com/reachthewest
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Dec 23, 2022 • 43min

Top Five Tech Stories of 2022

What made headlines this year? What technology news should Christians be aware of?Joel is back! He and Andrew Noble each made a list of their top tech stories. They unpack each story for the uninitiated and discuss the implications from a Christian perspective.What Would Jesus Tech is a Canadian-made, reformed podcast helping Christians use technology as Jesus would. Send us your ideas and feedback at whatwouldjesustech@gmail.com Episode 17. 0:00 - Intro, Joel's product update, and Tech layoffs3:02 - Andrew's #1 Story - Twitter Takeover9:20 - Joel's #1 Story - ChatGPT and AI Progression19:52 - Andrew's #3 - Facebook's Struggle Due To Apple's Privacy Changes and Metaverse Flop24:41 - Andrew's #4 - Censorship and Bill C-1128:23 - Joel's #2 - Nuclear Fusion34:20 - Joel's #4 - "Nothing-burger" year's for Crypto, IoT, and Robotics38:24 - Andrew's #5 - Government Hacking
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Dec 7, 2022 • 22min

Living On God's Word With Technology

Which is more commended by Scripture?A) A daily 15-minute quiet time with Bible reading.B) A throughout-the-day reflection on Scripture.In this post, Andrew Noble answers that question and describes how to meditate on Scripture, the ways of reminding ourselves of Scripture (according to Deut. 6), and how technology can be leveraged to better take-in Scripture. The Israelites used doorposts to remember Scripture. We should use digital doorposts.Note:Joel Jacob is away again but will be back soon.The first 8 minutes of this video are transcripted here (with links and references included): https://andrewnoble.substack.com/p/the-neglected-practice-of-bible-meditationThe final portion of the video is transcripted here (with links and references included): https://andrewnoble.substack.com/p/228ca664-9c82-4efd-948d-8b8828cedac7

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