

Just Fly Performance Podcast
Joel Smith, Just-Fly-Sports.com
The Just Fly Performance Podcast is dedicated to all aspects of athletic performance training, with an emphasis on speed and power development. Featured on the show are coaches and experts in the spectrum of sport performance, ranging from strength and conditioning, to track and field, to sport psychology. Hosted by Joel Smith, the Just Fly Performance Podcast brings you some of the best information on modern athletic performance available.
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Apr 28, 2022 • 0sec
Rafe Kelley and Charles St. John on “Supercharging” Games and Building Dynamic Learning Models
Today’s episode features Rafe Kelly and Charles St. John. Rafe is the owner of Evolve Move Play, and has studied and taught a multitude of movement practices spanning gymnastics, parkour, martial arts, weightlifting, Cross-fit and more for decades. His passion to is help people build the physical practice that will help make them the strongest, most adaptable and resilient version of themselves in movement and in life. Charles has been training parkour since 2009, and coaching it since 2012. He carries multiple parkour coaching certifications and is a certified personal trainer for general fitness, while he currently coaches at the APEX Denver Parkour (Apexdenver.com) and Circus facility in Colorado.
Motor learning is the worldview by which you keep yourself from over-compartmentalizing elements of a total training program. It’s how you discover the window, or lens by which an athlete acquires mastery in their sport, and also determines how you go about constructing a training session with the “whole” in mind. It allows one to see the forest from the trees in the process of athletic mastery. If we only listen to “speed”, “output” and “drill” oriented material, and leave out the actual over-arching process of motor learning in any sort of athletic performance discussion, we end up with a more over-compartmentalized, less sustainable, less effective, and less enjoyable model of training
On the podcast today, Rafe and Charles speak in the first half, on games they particularly enjoy from a true “generalist” point of view; games that encapsulate the most essential elements of “human-ness” in movement. These game principles can be plugged into either general (for the sake of better outputs for the subsequent training session), or specific warmups (for the sake of “donor” learning to the main session). In the second half, we get into a detailed discussion on dynamic points of learning and coaching, speaking on points of drill vs. holistic approach to skills, frequency of feedback (and types of feedback), working with highly analytical athletes, checking the effectiveness of one’s cues, and much more.
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Timestamps and Main Points:
4:41 – Why Rafe and Charles love rugby as a multi-dimensional game that encapsulates a lot of human qualities and opportunities
14:12 – “Hybrid” games that coaches like to play as a generalist warmup to a strength training session, and the emergence of “king of the course”
23:21 – How to craft a “donor” activity to prepare for your primary training activity
32:49 – What the balance is, in parkour, on teaching actual technique, vs. decisions
52:08 – How to properly tell stories and frame skills to an athlete, without letting words get in the way
1:02:11 – How many efforts to let an athlete perform, before coaches should seek to intervene in the form of a cue or instruction, and how to help athletes be better self-learners
1:14:34 – Cueing and instructing athletes who may desire more structure than others
1:22:37 – Thoughts on velocity of a movement, and the transferability of drills, or slower versions of skills, versus fast movements
1:27:02 – “Feeding the Error” and principles of variable learning that can assist in skill development
1:32:38 – How to improve learning by reducing potential “fear” constraints in sports with a potential risk element
“I would contest that (rugby) is the best designed ball sport… it’s the only sport I played that allowed for a range of body types”
“Team sports have all of (generalist fitness) demands in them… and you have to do it in a team manner, you have to cooperate with other people”

Apr 21, 2022 • 1h 30min
303: Rocky Snyder on Optimizing Foot and Glute Function with a Joint-Based Approach to Training
Today’s show features biomechanist, coach and author, Rocky Snyder. Rocky is the owner of “Rocky’s Fitness” in Santa Cruz, California. Rocky is an accomplished personal trainer with an absolutely immense library of knowledge in multiple disciplines of human performance, such as biomechanics, exercise selection and neurology. Rocky is the author of the book “Return to Center” and has a track record on being able to restore functional movement ability to even the most difficult client cases.
In the world of training, we have a “muscle-centric” approach, and then a “joint-centric” approach to performance. I have found that while training and centering one’s efforts on muscles and their actions can definitely be helpful, an approach that can serve a greater percentage of clients in a sustainable manner is one that understands joint mechanics, and how muscles will respond to one’s joint positions. Muscles that are long, short, weak or tight are as such, because they are responding to an individual’s joint mechanics, and therefore the related demands they are constantly placed under.
Today’s episode focuses on the joint mechanics of the feet and hips. Rocky starts by highlighting elements of proper pronation and supination (with an extra emphasis on the action of the foot’s transverse arch in movement, it’s link to glute function and how we can assess how well it is being utilized) and how we can look for a deficiency in either area. Rocky then gets into practical exercise interventions in the world of lunge motions, standing twists, and why Rocky favors spiraling single leg training to glute-bridge oriented exercises for a functional glute training effect. Finally, Rocky gives his take on how loaded carries fit with the gait cycle, and can “balance out” and restore athletes from compressive gym work.
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Timestamps and Main Points:
4:28 – How Rocky got started in fitness, and the different areas of the field he has layered onto his approach, such as biomechanics, neurology and breathwork (evolution from outdoor athlete, to gym rat, into functional fitness/neurology/biomechanics)
10:43 – Rocky’s experience in coaching youth sports
13:39 – What Rocky thinks on the idea of “over-pronation” and what that term means to him
22:30 – The importance of “anchoring the transverse arch” on pronation mechanics and glute utilization in gait
34:26 – How to improve pronation, and solve the issue of “over-pronation” in an athlete
40:17 – Considering barbell hip thrusts in light of knowing more about pronation and spirals in the body, to activate glutes
46:48 – What Rocky is looking for on the level of the pelvis when it comes to pronation
53:35 – The link between sprinting, anterior and posterior pelvic tilt
58:05 – What Rocky is looking at in a reverse glider lunge exercise in terms of pronation and supination
1:03:30 – The importance of a straight back leg in the isometric lunge exercise in terms of the reciprocal action of the body
1:07:52 – The importance of supination in the foot, and how to create a balance of pronation and supination in the feet in various exercises
1:16:45 – How loaded carries fit with expansion bias and functional core strength, for the human body
“I couldn’t stand gyms when I was growing up, I grew up in the backwoods of New England, I grew up doing rock climbing, cross country skiing, whitewater canoeing, but I was also a gymnast and got into wrestling”
“My work originally started with muscular-centric loading… but now there’s also motor neurology and b...

Apr 14, 2022 • 1h 10min
302: Jeremy Frisch, Austin Jochum and Jake Tuura on Engineering “Athlete-Centered” Training and Problem Solving Athletic Development
Today’s show features a roundtable discussion featuring Jeremy Frisch, Austin Jochum and Jake Tuura. Jeremy is the owner of Achieve Performance Training, Austin runs Jochum Strength, and Jake is the owner of “Jacked Athlete”. All three of these individuals were previously strength coaches of NCAA DI institutions before getting into the private sector of training.
Recently Jake hosted Austin on his podcast, having a conversation about quitting their jobs as NCAA strength coaches to venture into the private sector. I found that talk very interesting, as I’ve recently been in the same situation, and I think a lot about the way that modern sport and university “systems” are put together. Often times, we are victims of either in-effective, or over-structuring in organizations, in a way that can leave us disconnected and/or overly-compartmentalized. In a variety of “private sector jobs”, people tend to wear more hats. In sports performance, this could be: strength coach, skill coach, fitness coach, and physical educator to name a few.
Today’s show isn’t so much about quitting a scholastic strength coaching job, but more-so on the experience of now-private sector coaches who wear those multiple-hats. It’s on how that helps us view the predicament of modern sports in a new way, along with engineering solutions. Despite our coaching setting, we all should aspire to be problem solvers.
On today’s episode, our panel speaks on paths away from the college training sector, and how getting into the private sector has allowed them to really focus on the pressing needs in modern sports, such as the “lost” art of physical education, play and then a greater understanding on building robustness and keeping athletes healthy. Whether you are a scholastic or private coach, this is a great show to step back and take a more zoomed-out perspective on effectively training athletes for long-term success.
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Timestamps and Main Points:
3:22 – Jeremy, Austin and Jake’s story of transitioning into the private sector of performance
12:30 – How the extra work a college strength coach puts in can fall to the wayside when a sport coach doesn’t listen or runs a poorly designed practice plan
22:12 – What are some of the big elements of change that have come with moving from the college gig to the private sector
36:10 – “Weaponizing” what you are passionate about in training and performance
38:12 – What Jeremy Frisch has seen from 12 years of being in the private sector, how much he feels kids can get back if they miss critical movement skills early on
42:44 – Where Austin and Jake see their process moving in the next 10 years as coaches, now that they have more freedom to explore things they want
51:35 – Jeremy’s take on the importance of physical education for strength and sport coaches
58:34 – Questioning old narratives of warmups and training in sports performance
1:03:46 – Closing thoughts on the integration of sport and strength and conditioning
“Why is everything so isolated in sports, why do we have so many people who specialize in one thing”
“My first month (as a DI strength coach) I realized that a lot of athletes had limitations that I wasn’t going to fix, and over time that sort of got to me, and I realized I could really make a difference if I went back and worked with younger athletes”
“When I was at Holy Cross I had 15 teams throughout the year”
“We have to earn our jobs with new tools, with new shiny toys we present to the sport coach”
“I never feel like I am dying in a game when I am going out to catch a pass, I’m pretty recovered, we don’t have to run to death….

Apr 7, 2022 • 1h 24min
301: Randy Huntington Answers Listener Questions on Speed and Power Development
Today’s show welcomes back track coach Randy Huntington, a track coach who has spent his recent years as the national track and field coach for the Chinese Athletics association. Randy has coached numerous Olympians, gold medalists, and world record holders in his time as a track coach, and one of his recent successes was training Su Bingtian, Asian record holder in the 100m dash. Bingtian, en-route to his 9.84 second run, covered 60m in 6.29 seconds and 40 yards in 4.08 seconds as per NFL combine timing.
The past shows with Randy have been loaded with the wisdom of an elite coach and have been very popular. For this episode, Randy took listener questions, and gives his answers on a variety of topics. Some particular trends for this show included his specific speed training workouts and intensities, his thoughts on traditional strength and hypertrophy methods for speed and power, coaching relaxation and sprint technique, as well as Randy’s thoughts on the ever-debated Nordic hamstring exercise (and hamstring injury prevention training in general). This and much more is covered on this tremendous Q&A episode.
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4:11 – The importance of intuition in coaching and performance
7:33 – How understanding the response of animals can help coaches gain better intuition with training human athletes
11:27 – How to “rig” a seated calf machine to attempt to replicate the Keiser seated calf machine
15:23 – Randy’s thoughts on strength development for speed
22:49 – Randy’s favorite top speed and acceleration sessions
28:25 – How does Randy teach relaxation in sprinting, and his thoughts on mini-hurdles/wickets
31:03 – Why Randy doesn’t have his athletes train flying sprints at their maximal speed
37:02 – Considerations in how Randy uses “time of task” sprints, versus simply sprinting a distance for time
42:35 – A recap of how Randy uses water and general strength based recovery methods
45:17 – More thoughts on how and why Randy doesn’t train his flying sprints at maximal velocity each week
48:09 – How Randy’s training has evolved over his years as a coach
52:46 – Teaching acceleration mechanics to young athletes who don’t have much physical strength yet
54:56 – What key data points does Randy use to assess his athletic process
1:00:00 – Randy’s thoughts on overspeed “wind-shield” training such as used by Marcell Jacobs
1:06:39 – How Randy alters strength training when sprinters are in-season
1:07:51 – How Randy would train an athlete who is naturally weak, and if he plays to an athlete’s strengths, or works primarily to bring up weaknesses
1:11:38 – Randy’s thoughts on hamstring injury prevention and Nordic hamstrings
“I try not to do too hard of strength training, until people can execute the technical (speed) component I want them to, unless that technical component needs strength to happen. I don’t look at strength training as a way to create anything, because I first want them to be able to get them to move through the (skill) positions that are necessary, and then we add strength on top of that”
“We still interpret power as force only… mostly because we haven’t had very effective ways to test it”
“My basic pattern is heavy sled, 50% of bodyweight or higher, then 1080, using 15-20% of bodyweight, then unloaded”
“We mostly use 6” mini-hurdles”
“I rarely go above 95% (of max speed) (in flying sprints in training)”
“I use (time of task) sprints specifically for testing”
“I only test the 30m fly (max) at most every 6 weeks, and usually every 2 months”
“Flying 30 is my big (“data oriented”) test”
“I don’t look at the weight of the clean,

Mar 31, 2022 • 1h 6min
300: Bobby Whyte on Game-Specific Acceleration, Motor Learning and Confidence Building in Basketball Performance Training
Today’s show welcomes back Bobby Whyte. Bobby is an athletic performance and basketball skill enhancement trainer operating out of northern New Jersey. Bobby recently appeared on episode 178 of the podcast https://www.just-fly-sports.com/podcast-178-bobby-whyte/, speaking on his integration of strength and skill training for basketball.
The world of sports performance can easily suffer from isolationism in the realm of strength, speed and movement skill. In the recent podcast with Tony Villani, the difference between 40-yard dash speed, and actual game speed in the NFL was made very clear. We need to understand more about the nuances, and principles of movement in sport to prepare athletes for it, instead of over-focusing on linear speed mechanics.
When we understand the over-arching principles of learning and movement, we can apply them to any sport or skill. Throughout this podcast, we’ve had intelligent minds like Adarian Barr speaking on biomechanical principles, and then folks like Michael Zweifel, Tyler Yearby, and Rob Gray talking about foundational principles of learning and skill acquisition. Bobby Whyte has been using those principles, and tying it all together in his basketball performance program.
On the show today, Bobby Whyte speaks how he has taken concepts picked up from Adarian Barr and applied them to movement training and acceleration in the game of basketball. He shares his thoughts on key physical abilities in basketball, and how he uses motor learning principles to help athletes improve their specific skill array for the game. Bobby will speak on how he has taken motor learning principles into landing mechanics and common injury prevention themes in training, and finally Bobby will talk about how he specifically seeks to develop the all-important confidence level in his players in his training sessions.
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Timestamps and Main Points:
5:21 – What Bobby has been learning and integrating since his last time on the podcast 2 years ago
6:45 – How Bobby has integrated some of Adarian Barr concepts directly into basketball speed and movement training
18:49 – How basketball, and related movement training, has universal application into many other sports, such as football
24:44 – Key physical abilities on the basketball court that can transfer into great gameplay
28:33 – The importance of chaos in basketball qualities and carryover
35:26 – How Bobby views landing and landing mechanics for his basketball athletes, and how good general strength training can go a long way in helping prevent injury without needing to do plyometrics where athletes need to move a “certain way”
42:45 – Bobby’s take on feedback and instruction in the course of coaching his athletes, and avoiding over-coaching
51:54 – How confidence in one’s specific game and skill abilities is a key and defining factor in athletes that make it to the next level of performance
59:01 – What is a “good drill”?
1:03:14 – Bobby’s thoughts on the benefits and drawbacks of the vast amount of information available to athletes today
“The best athletes can maintain (Adarian Barr’s) athletic posture until… it’s time to cut, it’s time to shoot, etc.”
“When I’m falling (to drop into a basketball move), I’m almost pulling myself down”
“A lot of players will go into that horizontal fall, and there will be a pause before they get moving… our goal is to smooth that out”
“They players that struggle with (coming up off the knees into an acceleration) struggle to get on their arches”

Mar 24, 2022 • 1h 28min
299: Tony Villani on NFL Combine Speed, Game Speed, and Focusing Where it Counts
Today’s show welcomes Tony Villlani, sports performance coach and owner of XPE sports in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida. Tony has coached over twenty #1 finishes in the NFL combine and is the creator of the Game Speed and Separation Movement Web. Tony has worked with many of the top NFL players in the league, but will tell you that his learning from those athletes was a much bigger deal in Tony’s development than the fact that he “trained them”.
Clearly you have to have a level of speed that’s well above average to be successful at many high level sports. At the same time, the fastest athletes in sports where having a level of speed is important, such as at the NFL combine, are not the successful ones in pro-football. Interestingly, the fastest receivers in the history of the combine have never had truly successful careers. This brings up the question, not only why this is, but also, how can we distribute our training efforts over time to optimize the way that athletes actually move on the field? Clearly, we need to work to get athletes fast in a linear sense, but how much are we helping if we overly focus on linear speed (and spend lots of time hair splitting linear speed in twitter arguments) and don’t address the types of speed utilized in sport.
Tony deeply understands the nuances and categories of direction change in sport, and actively trains these components in his sessions. This isn’t to say that Tony doesn’t love traditional speed training (just look at his combine success) but he also loves building speed that gives athletes the highest chance of success in their sport.
On the show today, Tony talks about how he “ratios” linear speed training to game-speed training, as well as how he frames NFL combine style training in light of game speed to those trainees. He’ll get into why he feels that the fastest athletes in the history of the combine have never been the best actual football players, and then gets into a substantial layout of his key points in change of direction training. Tony also lists some key aspects of offensive and defensive agility, as well as how agility can differ between sports. This was a podcast that you’ll never forget if you train any type of athlete for speed in their sport.
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Timestamps and Main Points:
6:07 – How having young children has taught Tony about the process of athletic development
7:47 – Tony’s take on the balance of how linear and game-speed training should progress as an athlete develops
23:48 – Tony’s thoughts on why the very fastest NFL receivers in the combine actually never had a good playing career
29:22 – Approaching linear speed development when an athlete is truly not as fast as they need to be from that perspective
36:14 – Tony’s take on the inverse relationship between the 40 yard dash times and 3-cone/shuttle events in the NFL combine
41:29 – How Tony feels the NFL combine agility tests transfer to performance, and what he does for agility instead
54:12 – Comparing types of game speed between athletes, and the general zones of speed pro football athletes will use in competitions
59:58 – Tony’s finer-point breakdown of change of direction technique
1:07:42 – How Tony views “first chance” opportunity in change of direction (one point of attack opportunity) in football vs. basketball or soccer
“Everyone should get as fast as they can possibly get with their own genetics, but after that, I turn off the (linear) speed switch”
“With our combine athletes, it’s, unfortunately, how to teach them to run out of control… I always tell our combine athletes, quit thinking of football, think track and being out of control”

Mar 17, 2022 • 1h 11min
Dr. Mark Wetzel on Neurological Strength, Emotional States, and Isometric Mastery
Today’s show welcomes back chiropractor and neurology expert, Dr. Mark Wetzel. Mark has been on this show numerous times talking about the effectiveness of long isometric holds, as well as digging into many aspects of their performance.
So often in the training and performance field, we just look at exercises, sets, and reps, but then don’t desire to dig into the nuance of those movements we are programming. With isometrics, we can certainly get results by simply having athletes hold positions indiscriminately, but we can multiply those results by understanding the underlying mechanisms that help make isometrics more effective.
One of the beautiful things about isometric holds is that the lack of movement brings one’s awareness to a high level, and one’s ability to focus on things like breathing, posture, and muscle tensioning, on a higher level. One’s mental and emotional state has an extremely close correlation with the length of time that you can hold the movement. Holding isometrics for extended periods of time also has an impact on the fascial lines of the body, and even the meridian lines (if your belief system takes you that far). Isometrics are truly a “total body”, functional experience.
On today’s show, Mark Wetzel gives his thoughts on how a positive mental state can increase one’s ability to hold an isometric position (or increase muscle endurance in general). He’ll speak extensively on the postural and muscle-tone aspects of holding an isometric, as well as speak on the connections made between the fascial/meridian lines, electric signals, and organ function. Finally, Mark gives his take on what he feels “neurological” strength truly is, and how this is manifested in a program.
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Timestamps and Main Points
5:24 – Mark’s thoughts on the mental and emotional aspects of fatigue (and perceived fatigue) during a difficult or taxing movement such as an isometric
14:34 – What it means to be “in position” as an athlete gets into an isometric hold
24:47 – Why some athletes have a lot of trouble “pulling down” into an isometric position and discussing the use of “constraints” such as a band around the shin, to help an athlete pull down into an isometric
34:19 – Using a one-arm bench press hold to help improve the pushing ability and breathing of individuals who struggle with isometric pushup holds
42:01 – What “good posture” means for Mark
47:05 – Mark’s take on organ health, meridian lines, and reflexes, particularly in light of utilizing isometric exercises
57:52 – What it means to have “neurological strength” from Mark’s perspective as a chiropractor with neurological training
1:05:35 – Depth jumps and drop landings as an assessment of neurological efficiency
Dr. Mark Wetzel's Quotes
“When I am in those moments (of fatigue) I try to bring up some sort of happiness or joyful emotion to try and take my mind off of it”
“The “fear based” mentality is almost a traditional way of training”
“Posture comes back to the breath; typically when people have bad posture it is because they have bad breathing mechanics”
“When you do a bunch of calf rebounds in a row, your body will position you in a way that (you have to be in to keep breathing under fatigue)”
“You can accomplish so much in an isometric exercise by focusing on “where is my breathing””
“I always back up (a chiropractic adjustment) with exercise”
“The meridian lines are all connected to an organ”
“What’s cool about an isometric is that you are creating a lot of tone throughout the whole body”
“If the brain is telling a muscle to stay weak, then it is going to stay weak no matter what you do”
“The more you can stay calm, breathe, smile to yourself while you are going through that d...

Mar 10, 2022 • 1h 7min
Kurt Hester on The Power of Training and Connecting with Athletes on the Human Level
Today’s show is with performance coach, Kurt Hester. Kurt is currently the Head of Football Preparation at the University of Tulane, and was previously the head strength coach at Lousiana Tech University from 2013 to 2021. He has decades of experience coaching in both the collegiate, and private sectors, and is the author of the book: ”Rants of a Strength and Conditioning Madman”.
When it comes to the results we get out of a training program (or the experience an athlete has in a sport organization), we usually think on the level of sets, reps and exercises. What we typically don’t consider as much, is how an athlete perceives the training from an emotional and sub-conscious, perspective, and how important building the right relationship is to the holistic success of the program.
Kurt Hester is the kind of strength coach I wish I had when I was a young athlete. When we talk about what it means to be a coach, and to be a servant-leader, Kurt is one of the first individuals that comes to mind. He not only has been studying and living the art of physical training for almost half a century, but he also has a focused sense of how to train individuals on both the athlete, and human levels.
On the show today, Kurt talks about how he connects with his athletes on the “human” level, to help improve their total experience as an athlete, gain trust, and improve the quality of training sessions. He’ll talk about how he uses games and fun activities to improve, not only the emotional content of the training sessions, but also the total effort level of the athletes. Finally, Kurt digs into some details around the sports performance industry itself, what he considers “mental toughness” to truly be, and gives his advice on developmental practices in leadership and communication.
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Timestamps and Main Points:
5:31 – How Kurt started to survey his athletes to learn more about them, and how this helped him to connect with athletes on a stronger level
10:14 – How to command a room in a coaching setting, while still getting to know athletes on a more personal level
13:27 – How players at Kurt’s former university rated the importance of the “strength coach” so high, in regards to why they attended the school
17:432 – Why Kurt uses games as a critical portion of his physical preparation program, as well as the injury prevention benefits of using game-based agility training
29:17 – Kurt’s learnings in his training with elite track and field athletes in the 1980’s and how many “modern” training methods have been around for a long time
32:14 – How strength coaches should have good all-around GPP, and be able to play games, do dynamic warmups, and demonstrate sprinting
40:15 – What Kurt would re-brand the field of sports performance
48:53 – What Kurt considers “mental strength” and “toughness” to truly be, in light of sports performance training
58:32 – Kurt’s advice on helping coaches to be able to understand athletes and lead them on a better level
“You can’t serve who you don’t know”
“The athletes who trusted me, and I had the best relationship with, those were the ones who excelled the most… the closer I had a relationship with them that was not about (sports) where they trusted me at a very high level, they developed at a faster rate than an athlete I wasn’t close to”
“A lot of strength and football coaches think that, if you have fun, that you are not working hard or at a proficient, high level, and I never wanted to be in this field, to not have fun”
“Most athletes don’t like to train, and that’s what most strength coaches don’t get… 99% of strength coaches do not understand that fact, they are not you! So that’s always in the back of my mind,

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Mar 3, 2022 • 1h 7min
Dan Cleather on The Truth on “Force Absorption”, Deceleration and Triple-Extension in Sports Training
Today’s show is with coach and educator, Dan Cleather. Dan is a reader in strength and conditioning and the programme director of the MSc in strength and conditioning at St Mary’s University, Twickenham, UK. Dan began coaching at Cal State Long Beach, and then worked at the English Institute of Sport. He has coached national and international medalists across a wide range of sports, and in particular has worked with World and Olympic champions.
Dan is the author of several books on the topics of science and sports performance, including “Force”: The Biomechanics of Training, and “The Little Black Book of Training Wisdom”. Dan has published over 40 peer-reviewed and scientific articles, and is a founder member of the UK Strength and Conditioning Association.
When it comes to performance training, coaches often cite a disconnect between what they are coaching, and what actually happens when an athlete competes. We can gain a greater understanding of this issue by simply looking at how movement actually happens in sport, and how athletes actually manage forces. Many control points in coaching tend to revolve around slow, or easily observable aspects of movement (usually the end-points), when the complex reality of movement renders coaching around these endpoints obsolete, if not counter-productive.
On the show today, Dan will share with us how he views common coaching practices revolving around scientific terminology, such as “force absorption”. He’ll go into some fallacies around force-based principles involving landing dynamics in sport, deceleration training, and how coaches go about instructing Olympic weightlifting. Dan will speak on where science, and “evidence-based” practices fit in with one’s coaching philosophy and intuition, and will share his thoughts on the link between gardening plants and coaching athletes.
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Timestamps and Main Points:
4:37 – Dan’s background as an athlete and what got him into strength and conditioning
7:58 – Dan’s take on learning skills as a coach, in order to be a better learning (and coach) of skills
15:11 – Dan’s thoughts on what applying science to training actually is
22:42 – How coaches tend to frame “force-absorption” in athletics, and what it actually is
32:47 – Thoughts on the body dealing with forces from a perspective of being a “machine” or from a self-organizing perspective
41:27 – Dan’s thoughts on any sort of deceleration training for sport, and how coaches tend to spend too much time on versions of movement that are too reductionist
48:20 – The link between seeds, plants, gardening and athletic performance
52:58 – Dan’s take on traditional Olympic lifting practices in light of force development
“The more skills you learn, the better you get at learning skills”
“Evidence based doesn’t mean that the science is prescriptive, we see 8 parts of a 30 piece jigsaw puzzle, which are the bits of evidence we are getting from the science, and we work out the rest of what that puzzle looks like based on our experience, our discussions with the coaches, etc.”
“The scientific evidence is an important part of our philosophy but it’s our philosophy that guides the decisions that we make”
“If you do something because your previous coach did it, that’s the evidence of what they did”
“Coaches find out what works, and 25 years later, the sport scientists come along and explain why… if you had to wait for the science before you were prepared to make a decision then you wouldn’t be able to do very much”
“Absorption implies that there is something you have got that is being sucked up by something, and can be released later”
“We call a softer landing with more flexion of the knees and hips “force absorption”,

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Feb 24, 2022 • 0sec
Boo Schexnayder on The Intelligent Simplification of Speed, Power and Skill in the Training Process
Today’s show is with Boo Schexnayder. Boo is a current strength coach and former jumps coach at Louisiana State University, and is regarded internationally as a leading authority in training design. Boo has been a two-time previous guest on the podcast talking about speed and power training setups. In a world of complexity, and nearly infinite ways to train athletes, Boo knows the art of managing athletic performance by using training means that are not more complex than they need to be.
In my coaching (and athletic) years, I have loved looking into all of the complexities, and details of the human body, training, motor learning and biomechanics. It’s always been a swinging pendulum in terms of digging in to understand important training nuances, but then zooming back out, to pull along the key pieces of what it really important, both in general, and for each individual athlete.
When we over-complicate training, over-coach, and give out exercises that require too much distraction from actual outputs or muscular adaptations, we create a diminished experience for the athlete, and also create a program that is harder to learn from as a coach. Knowing how and when to make the complex simple is a mark of an accomplished coach who can really transmit training to an athlete in a way that allows them to self-organize to their highest potential, both on the level of skill development, and maximal outputs.
On the show today, Boo goes in detail on his own upbringing and mentorships in coaching that have led him to become the coach he is today. He speaks particularly how his work in the rehab process gave him increased confidence in his regular coaching abilities. Boo will speak on the process of how far he will go on the complexity rung in the gym, and how he balances coaching skill and technique with the self-organizing ability of the athlete. Finally, Boo gives some of his thoughts on training that focuses on an athlete’s strength, and his take on heavy partial lifts in the gym in respect to the total training system.
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Timestamps and Main Points
5:02 – Boo’s early development as a coach, early mentors, and his work in rehab that led him to where he is now
15:30 – Some specifics that Boo learned from the world of rehabilitation that intertwined with his performance coaching practice, and how rehab and training follow the same principles and draw from the same well
21:50 – Boo’s advice on arriving at the place where things can be made optimally simple in coaching
25:10 – Why coaches end up chasing things in athletics that aren’t that important
36:28 – Where Boo draws the line on complexity in the weightroom to the point where exercises aren’t helping to accomplish the primary goal of training
40:26 – The extent of complexity Boo would utilize for single leg movements
46:01 – How athletes must train their strengths in order to potentiate their weaknesses
52:48 – A discussion on how the Buffalo Bills didn’t squat in season and still experienced substantial success
57:20 – Boo’s take on heavy quarter squats and partial step ups in performance training (vs. full range of motion)
“The earliest (change) is when I finally understood specificity and I developed a healthy non-respect for coaching culture, I realized that a lot of coaching is traditional and needs to be evaluated”
“Another bright light that came on is when I got involved in the rehab field”
“I think the key thing to keeping things simple is understanding what you are trying to accomplish”
“So much of what we do in traditional coaching cultures is just filler work”
“I feel that one thing that holds back lots of coaches is technology, there is so much technology out there that so many coaches have b...