
Just Fly Performance Podcast
The Just Fly Performance Podcast is dedicated to all aspects of athletic performance training, with an emphasis on speed and power development. Featured on the show are coaches and experts in the spectrum of sport performance, ranging from strength and conditioning, to track and field, to sport psychology. Hosted by Joel Smith, the Just Fly Performance Podcast brings you some of the best information on modern athletic performance available.
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Jul 21, 2022 • 1h 7min
316: Simon Capon on Present-Moment Awareness and Flow-State Cultivation
Today’s episode features sports psychologist, Simon Capon. Simon is a hypnotherapist, Master NLP (Neuro-Linguistic Programming) practitioner, as well as the author of the book “It’s Time to Start Winning.” Since 2006 Simon has worked with professional athletes, using variety of techniques including skills from NLP and hypnotherapy. He has inspired athletes, footballers and numerous others to achieve national, international and world titles. Simon’s philosophy is simple, create self-belief and your behaviors and actions will change and so will your results. Simon previously appeared on episode #198 of the podcast, speaking particularly on the link between body language and mental state in athletics, as well as managing the emotional brain for performance.
As Logan Christopher puts it, we are always “mentally training” whether we think we are or not. If we do nothing dedicated to improving the processes and habits related to managing the mind well, we will simply revert to the default programming. By focusing on the role of the mind, we can improve our motivation, consistency, clutch performance, physical abilities, as well as find a greater sense of purpose and enjoyment in each training session.
In this show, Simon speaks at length on methods to stay in the present moment, how to use particular strategies to engage the sensory systems of the body, turn of the judging mind, and get into FLOW states. He discusses the role of visual focus (peripheral vs. narrow) in sport, linking higher purposes and emotions into our movement/training, as well as a “process oriented” approach to goal setting.
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Timestamps and Main Points
4:45 – Why spending time on a cell-phone between training sets takes one out of the present moment, and what to focus on between sets instead
13:15 – The link between modern lifestyle technology use, dopamine addiction, and the negative brain chemistry momentum generated by continually checking one’s phone
16:45 – Principles that lead to the “unconscious” flow state in sport performance
19:45 – Strategies on how to get into the FLOW state in sport
25:45 – The “Know-Nothing” state and how to use one’s senses to get into FLOW states
31:45 – How one’s visual field adjustments factor into one’s sport skill performance
35:45 – Principles of non-attachment and over-trying in sport
38:45 – “Chunking” a long and demanding task into smaller parts to improve mental focus and resilience
45:45 – Digging into purpose and higher emotions in the course of difficult training sessions
61:00 – Balancing process vs. outcome goals
“Wherever you are, be there…. (if you are on your phone) we aren’t really present in the gym”
“Energy flows where focus goes… wherever you are, put your heart and soul into it”
“It’s not just about the gym, it’s in other areas of your life as well”
“(In an athletic flow state) There’s no internal dialogue, there’s no judgements, there’s no thoughts”
“We can’t always keep (the critical inner voice) quiet, but we can keep it occupied”
“(Widening your field of vision, noticing your breathing, using all of your senses with your internal and external environment) allows you to play your sport freely…… it comes from a technique called the “know-nothing state””
“Mental focus follows visual focus”
“Every time you go to the table, your job is to execute the strategy (not to “win the game”), it’s to be at your best, and if you are at your best, winning the tournament will most certainly happen”
“Purpose is one of those things that we often under-estimate”
“We all have an ego, but when you can channel it so it has a contribution to othe...

Jul 14, 2022 • 1h 23min
315: Rick Franzblau on Sprint and Strength Training Optimization Based on Athlete Structural Type
Today’s episode brings back Rick Franzblau, assistant AD for Olympic Sports Performance at Clemson University. In his two decades in athletic performance, Rick has worked with a wide variety of sports, as well as gained an incredible amount of knowledge in both the technology, and biomechanics ends of the coaching spectrum. Rick, as with many other biomechanics topic guests on this podcast, has been a mentee of Bill Hartman, and has appeared previously on episode 94, talking about force/velocity metrics in sprinting and lifting.
There is a lot of time spent, talking about an “optimal technique” for various sport skills (such as sprinting). We also tend to look for “optimal lifts” or exercises for athletes, as well as optimal drills athletes are supposed to perform with “perfect form” to attain an ideal technique.
What the mentality described in the above paragraph doesn’t consider is that athletes come in different shapes and structures, which cause what is optimal to differ. Wide ISA athletes, for example, are fantastic at short bursts of compression, have lower centers of mass, and can manage frontside sprint mechanics relatively easily. On the other hand, narrow ISA individuals use longer ranges of motion to distribute force, have a higher center of mass, rotate more easily, and can use backside running mechanics better than wide-ISA’s. Additionally, there is a spectrum of these athletic structures, and not simply 2 solid types.
On today’s show, Rick goes into detail on the impact and role of compression in human movement and performance training, the strengths and weaknesses of the narrow vs. wide ISA archetypes, what differences show up in locomotion and sprint training, as well as how he approaches strength training for the spectrum of wide to narrow individuals. Today’s show reminds us (thankfully) that there is no magic-bullet for all athletes, and helps us with the over-arching principles that can guide training for different populations to reach their highest potential.
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Timestamps and Main Points:
4:00 – How the direction of Rick’s performance testing and KPI’s has changed over the last few years
8:00 – How structure and thorax build will play a strong role in what Rick is seeing from them on rate of development on the force plate
23:00 – What to give to a compressed narrow individual to help them in a vertical jump
25:00 – Narrow vs. Wide ISA acceleration mechanics
34:00 – Thoughts on how to help a narrow ISA improve their ability to get lower and achieve better compression in sprint acceleration, and why Rick has gotten away from heavy sled sprints for narrow ISA athletes on the 1080
44:00 – How a coach’s own personal body structure can create a bias for how they end up training athletes they work with
47:00 – Wide ISA athletes, and why they may have an easier time accessing front-side mechanics in running
56:00 – Narrow ISA athletes and backside sprint mechanics, as well as attaining appropriate range and sprint bandwidths for each athlete
58:00 – How force plate data and structural bandwidths determine how to train team sport athletes for the sake of injury prevention and sport specific KPI’s
1:10:00 – How Rick alters weightroom training for narrow vs. wide ISA athletes
1:17:00 – Rick’s take on oscillatory reps in the weightroom, and quick-impulse lifts, especially for narrow infra-sternal angle athletes
“(Regarding infrasternal angle archetypes) It’s not to claim buckets that people fall into; it’s a spec...

Jul 7, 2022 • 1h 36min
314: Alex Effer on “Jacked Shoulders” in Sprinting, Athletic Squatting Mechanics, and Rotational Dynamics of Locomotion
Today’s episode brings back Alex Effer. Alex is the owner of Resilient Training, and has extensive experience in strength & conditioning, exercise physiology and the biomechanical function of the body. He also runs educational mentorships teaching biomechanics to therapists, trainers and coaches. Alex was recently on the show talking about the mechanics of the early to late stance spectrum and it’s implications for performance training.
Something that has been dramatically under-studied in running, jumping, cutting and locomotion in general is the role of the upper body. Since the arms don’t directly “put force into the ground” and the world of sports performance and running is mostly concerned with vertical force concepts; the role of the arms gets relatively little attention in movement.
This is unfortunate for a few reasons. One is that sport movement has strong horizontal and rotational components that demand an understanding of how the upper body matches and assists with the forces that are “coming up from below”. Two is that the joints of the upper body tend to have a lot in common with the alignment and actions of corresponding joints in the lower body. When we understand how the upper body aligns and operates, we can optimize our training for it in the gym, as well as better understand cueing and motor learning constraints in dynamic motion.
Today’s topics progress in a trend of “expansion to compression”, starting with a chat on the expansive effect of aerobic training (as well as the trendy thera-gun) and Alex’s favorite restorative and re-positioning aerobic methods. We then get into rotational dynamics in squatting, focusing on the actions of the lower leg, and finish the chat with a comprehensive discussion on the role of the upper body in sprinting, how to train propulsive IR for the upper body in the gym, as well as touching on improving hip extension quality for athletic power.
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Timestamps and Main Points:
5:00 – Why Alex thinks that the Theragun is actually a useful tool in the scope of training
15:00 – Thoughts on the use of aerobic training, and blood flow as an “inside out” expansive stimulus to the muscle and the body in general
22:30 – The importance of tibial internal rotation, and how it fits in with the ability to squat and bend the knee
33:30 – How to restore tibial internal rotation for improved squatting and knee mechanics
38:15 – Talking about Chris Korfist’s “rocker squats”, and viability in regards to specifically improving tibial internal rotation
44:00 – Isometrics and work done at shallower knee angles for knee health in respect to the vastus lateralis and vastus medialis muscles
51:00 – The importance of hip and shoulder internal rotation in sprinting, and the role of the upper body in helping the lower body to get off the ground more quickly.
1:07:30 – Narrow vs. Wide infra-sternal angle athletes in regards to upper body dynamics , and general biomechanics in sprinting
1:13:00 – Alex’s take on hip extension in sprinting and how to improve it
1:22:00 – The role of hill sprinting in improving hip extension, as well as the benefits of walking down the hill in terms of priming the body to leverage the glutes better on the way back up
1:24:00 – Why Alex likes hip thrusts with the feet elevated, relative to hip height
1:28:00 – Some key exercises to improve shoulder internal rotation for sprinting
“The vibration aspect of the Theragun I really like; if you slow the landing of running or sprinting, you will see a vibration or wave-like effect of the muscle upon impact”
“Whatever my upper back or torso is going to do; I am going to ha...

Jun 30, 2022 • 1h 6min
313: Joel Smith Q&A on Exercise Selection, Sport Speed Concepts, and Jump Training Setups
Today’s episode features a question and answer session with Joel Smith. On the show today, I answer questions related to “are there any bad exercises?”, sport speed concepts, jump training, “switching” sprint drills, and much more. I love being able to highlight and integrate information from so many of the past guests on this podcast into my own training, coaching, and ultimately, the answers I provide on this show. In many senses of the word, this is truly an “integration” episode of the podcast series.
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Timestamps and Main Points:
3:16 –Is there any such thing as a bad exercise?
17:19 –How do we speed up soccer players?
30:25 –Do you find value in spending time on switching drills?
45:07 –Athletes who take too many steps in a start or acceleration.
53:19 –Does walking affect fast-twitch fibers?
54:45 –Setups for high jump off-season/yearly plyo program for high level jumpers?
1:01:36 –How to speed jump like elite high jumpers?
About Joel Smith
Joel Smith is the founder of Just Fly Sports and is a sports performance/track coach in Cincinnati, Ohio. Joel hosts the Just Fly Performance Podcast, has authored several books on athletic performance, and in 2021, released the integrative training course, “Elastic Essentials”. He currently trains clients in the in-person and online space.
Joel was formerly a strength coach for 8 years at UC Berkeley, working with the Swim teams and professional swimmers, as well as tennis, water polo, and track and field. A track coach of 15 years, Joel coached for the Diablo Valley Track and Field Club for 7 years, and also has 6 years of experience coaching sprints, jumps, hurdles, pole vault and multi-events on the collegiate level, working at Wilmington College, and the University of Wisconsin, LaCrosse, along with his current work with master’s, high school and collegiate individuals.
Joel has had the honor of working with a number of elite athletes, but also takes great joy in helping amateur athletes and individuals reach their training goals through an integrative training approach with a heavy emphasis on biomechanics, motor learning, mental preparation, and physiological adaptation. His mission through Just Fly Sports is: “Empowering the Evolution of Sport and Human Movement”. As a former NAIA All-American track athlete, Joel enjoys all aspects of human movement and performance, from rock climbing, to track events and weightlifting, to throwing the frisbee with his young children and playing in nature.

Jun 23, 2022 • 1h 4min
312: Rob Gray on Higher Athletic Ceilings with Differential Learning and Optimized Variability Training
Today’s episode welcomes back to the show, Rob Gray, professor at Arizona State University and host of the Perception & Action Podcast. Rob Gray has been conducting research on, and teaching courses related to perceptual-motor skill for over 25 years. He focuses heavily on the application of basic theory to address real-world challenges, having consulted with numerous professional and governmental entities, and has developed a VR baseball training system that has been used in over 25 published studies. Rob is the author of the book “How We Learn to Move: A Revolution in the Way We Coach and Practice Sports Skills”.
You cannot separate the world of athletic development, even pure “power” training, from concepts on motor learning. If we look at interest in athletic performance topics by “need”, speed training will typically be first on the list. At its core, sprinting, lifting (and every other athletic skill) has its roots in how we learn.
The great thing about motor learning knowledge, is that it can both allow you to have a better training session on the day, as well as month to month, and year over year. Training done only on the level of raw “power” as a general quality, and explicit instruction will create early ceilings for athletes in their career. Understanding motor learning allows for more involved daily training sessions, and better flourishing of skills that grow like a tree, over time. Whether you work in sport, in the gym, or as a parent/athlete, understanding how we learn goes a massively long way in becoming the best version of one’s self athletically and from a movement perspective.
In episode 293, Rob got into the constraints-led approach to movement vs. “teaching fundamentals”, and in this episode, he goes into CLA’s counter-part: differential learning. Rob will get into the nuances of differential learning on the novice and advanced level. In the back end of the show, we’ll talk about “stacking constraints”, games, exploration, using the “velocity dial” as a constraint, and finally, the promising results of Rob’s research showing the effectiveness of a variable practice model.
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Timestamps and Main Points:
5:07 – How differential learning is different than the constraints led approach in athletic development
12:10 – Using differential learning as a recovery tool from intense training means
15:51 – Using constraints within the scope of differential learning and vice versa
21:28 – If and how differential learning or the CLA led approach can be too “widespread” vs. focused towards a movement goal
25:02 – Some games Rob would specifically utilize in training tennis players using constraints and differential learning
28:11 – The advantage of free flowing sports with limited rules and setups for children in the process of youth sports
36:05 – How performing exploratory movements in the weight room can fit with differential learning concepts
41:55 – Rob’s take on the innate ability of athletes to figure out movement on their own, and when to dig into constraints more deeply to help determine why they may not be solving a problem well, and the integration of analogies into the process
44:23 – Thoughts on manipulating velocity and time as a constraint, and the relationship between intensifying constraints, and the amount of movement solutions
53:30 – How using variable learning and constraint led approaches can improve players ceilings in long-term development
59:52 – The specifics of Rob’s landmark study with baseball players and long-term development
“The constraints led approach is a bit more focused… you have a rough idea of where they want to be,

Jun 16, 2022 • 60min
311: Kyle Dobbs on “Macro-to-Micro” Thinking in Strength, Speed and Corrective Exercise
Today’s episode features Kyle Dobbs. Kyle is the owner and founder of Compound Performance which offers online training, facility consulting and a personal trainer mentorship. He has an extensive biomechanics and human movement background (having trained 15,000+ sessions), and has been a two time previous guest on this podcast.
In the world of training and performance, it’s easy to get caught up in prescribing a lot of exercises that offer a relatively low training effect in the grand scheme of things. Healthy and capable athletes are often assigned a substantial load of low-level “prehab” style and corrective exercises that they often do not need. In doing so, both a level of boredom, fatigue and just simply wasting time, happens in the scope of a program.
For my own training journey, I’ve seen my own pendulum swing from a relatively minimal approach to the number of movements, to having a great deal of training exercises, back down to a smaller and more manageable core of training movements in a session. As I’ve learned to tweak and adjust the big lifts, and even plyometric and sprint variations, I realize that I can often check off a lot of training boxes with these movements, without needing to regress things too far.
On the show today, Kyle will speak on where and when we tend to get overly complex, or overly regressive in our training and programming. He’ll talk about what he prioritizes when it comes to assigning training for clients, as well as a “macro-to-micro” way of thinking in looking at the entirety of training. Kyle will get into specifics on what this style of thinking and prioritization means for things like the big lifts, speed training, and core work, as well as touch how on biomechanical differences such as infra-sternal angle play a role in his programming.
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Timestamps and Main Points:
3:41 – How Kyle’s run training has been developing, since he has been getting back into his two years ago after being a high level college 400m runner
7:41 – Kyle’s thoughts on where we tend to get overly complex in the physical preparation/strength & conditioning industry
11:58 – How Kyle prioritizes exercises based on the task requirements of the athlete
16:19 – Thoughts on working macro-to-micro, versus micro-to-macro
28:50 – How Kyle will avoid trying to regress individuals to a low-level, rudimentary version of an exercise if possible, and his take on “pre-hab” work
36:50 – The usefulness of hill sprints as a “macro” exercise for glutes, lower legs, and hip extension quality
40:56 – The spectrum of perceived complexity as athletes move from a beginner to a more advanced level
48:40 – Kyle’s take on some gym movements that “check a lot of boxes” in athletic movement
56:01 – How much of Kyle’s programming ends up being different on account of being a wide vs. narrow infrasternal angle
“If we can’t match the stress that an athlete is going to be encountering in their actual sport, it isn’t going to have a huge return”
“I want to be able to pick the biggest return on investment from a training perspective; those are going to go into my primary buckets from a programming perspective”
“If I have somebody who really needs to zoom into the micro, and we really need to get into the biomechanics weeds and decrease the training stress, those are people that we refer out to another specialist… having a good network allows you to focus on the things that you are good at and that you really like to do. I learned early in my career that, I don’t like to be the rehab guy”
“That’s my problem with the biomechanics led approach,

Jun 9, 2022 • 1h 16min
310: Andrew Sheaff on A Fusion of Track and Swimming Concepts in Athletic Speed Development
Today’s episode features swim coach Andrew Sheaff. Andrew is an assistant swimming coach at the University of Virginia, winners of the last two NCAA women’s championships. In addition to swim coaching, Sheaff has an extensive background in strength and conditioning, including an internship under Buddy Morris. A collegiate swimmer at Pittsburgh, Sheaff was named the Senior Athlete of Distinction. He was a four-time Big East Academic All-Star and a four-time University Scholar Athlete. He writes on numerous aspects of coaching education at his website, coachandrewsheaff.com .
A quote on Andrew’s blog that made a lot of sense to me was a quote by former cricket player and ESPN writer, Ed Smith, that “Because the important things are hard to coach, it is tempting to take refuge in the small, irrelevant things because they are easy.” I find this to be extremely relevant to many approaches to athletic development where drills are often over-emphasized and over-controlled, while the actual sporting skill is often left relatively un-changed from season to season.
I have found it a common theme, in modern coaching, to attempt to overly “control” an athlete’s technique through the over-use of drills, exact positions, and discrete instructions. This can range from cues in the weight room (butt back, chest out, through the heels!) to the track (heel up, knee up, toe up!) to exact arm positions for swimming movements.
On the show today, Andrew speaks on elements of control vs. athlete empowerment in coaching. He talks on training methods that lead to lasting change in technique and performance, with an emphasis on the constraints-led approach. This podcast was a fun cross-pollination of ideas between the worlds of swimming, track and physical preparation, with important concepts for any coach or athlete. Whether you are interested in speed training, technical development, or just overall coaching practice, you are sure to find this a really informative conversation.
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Timestamps and Main Points:
4:51 – Why Andrew got into both physical preparation/S&C, as well as swim coaching, in his coaching career
6:35 – Why Andrew believes swim training remained so “old school” (based on large yardages and distances) for so long, compared to track and field
8:53 – Why so many coaches take refuge in the small/easy/controllable things, when more focus is needed on bigger, but more rewarding, real problems in athletics
12:10 – How coaches seeking “too much control” plays out in the world of swimming
15:36 – Basics of how Andrew uses constraints to allow swimmers problem solving opportunities, vs. trying to control smaller elements of the stroke
23:46 – Bondarchuk’s “Push the Hammer” cue, and the power of slightly ambiguous coaching instructions that don’t over-control the athlete’s movements
31:28 – How the unique situation of training in a 25 yard or 50 meter pool, can create more interesting training options for swim athletes in terms of constraints
35:13 – How Andrew uses constraints that are purely for exploratory perspective, versus constraints from a timed perspective
41:23 – How fatiguing particular body sections or muscles can offer a unique constraint in both swimming, or land activities such as plyometrics
46:04 – The spectrum of “boredom tolerance” between athletes, and how Andrew manages this in practice
51:58 – Why and how Andrew thinks more “standard volume” type training methods can be successful, and if they are sustainable or not

Jun 2, 2022 • 1h 3min
309: Rob Assise on Plyometric Complexes, “Crescendo Sets” and Variability in Speed and Power Training
Today’s episode features Rob Assise. Rob has 19 years of experience teaching mathematics and coaching track and field at Homewood-Flossmoor High School. He also has coached football and cross country, and is also the owner of the private training business, Re-evolution athletics. Rob has appeared on multiple prior episodes of the podcast, speaking on his unique approach to jumps training that combines the practice with many sport-like elements.
Track and field offers us a great insight as to the effectiveness of a variety of training methods, because each method will be ultimately judged by how fast an athlete ended up running, how far or high they jumped, or how far they threw. In track and field, we combine power alongside technical development in the process of achieving event mastery.
Rob has a creative and integrative process to his own training methods, and on today’s show, he speaks largely on some “crescendo style” adjustments to common plyometric and sprint drills that he uses to help athletes improve their technique and rhythmic ability over a period of time.
On the show Rob talks about his recent sprint-jump complexes, use of asymmetrical plyometrics, and where he has gone with the “minimal effective dose” style of training. He also shares his thoughts on tempo sprints in the role of jump training, and as we have spoken on in other podcasts, manipulating velocity in a movement in order to improve not only one’s speed, to help them clear up technical issues.
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Timestamps and Main Points:
4:17 – How Rob’s last track season turned out, and an overview of some things he changed and learned
7:15 – The purpose, and implementation of “crescendo” style plyometric training
23:05 – Specific “nuts and bolts” of “crescendo” style plyometrics in terms of sets, reps and intensities
28:20 – Thoughts on the crescendo effect, and wave-loading for fly-10 sprints, and then in the weight room
34:09 – Rob’s ideas for using basketball hoops with his track and field jumps group, and ideas for a warmup and training circuit blending basketball and track ideas
38:54 – Some of Rob’s training complexes that mix top-end speed, and controllable jump takeoffs
42:31 – How biomechanical issues in sprinting and jumping could be potentially solved via increased velocity
46:34 – How Rob has moved away, within his training group, from the “minimal effective dose” idea, especially in the volume of his long-jump approaches
50:35 – Rob’s take on tempo training and long sprints with his training group
57:34 – How Rob has been using asymmetrical skips and bounding to better replicate some jump takeoffs, and then to help teach bounding better
“That skill (how to bounce) isn’t necessarily there with athletes”
“We brought (the crescendo principle) into all of our regular plyos, the bounds, the gallops, the skips, the run-run-jumps”
“If an athlete isn’t getting the RSI I want, I’ll make it a “speed gate golf” game, and we’ll (try exactly for a lower RSI) for a few sets, and then they’ll come back and hit a PR”
“Something I need to more of that has a lot of power is the single leg bounds or hopping… with the crescendo style, that’s something I’m going to focus on more, moving forward”
“If I played basketball, and I could only make layups or 3 pointers, there may be a role for me, but it would be better if I could hit a mid-range jumper, right?”
“Whenever I write up a practice plan, it’s all a complex”
“Now days I have no problem with having athletes take 10 long jump approaches in a session, where before, I may have capped it at 4”
“I get a lot of benefits of tempo from doing jump type ...

May 26, 2022 • 1h 19min
308: Will Ratelle on Explosive Training Specificity, Olympic Lift Debates, and Avoiding Redundant Exercises
Today’s episode features Will Ratelle. Will is a strength coach, at the University of North Dakota, working with football, basketball, volleyball and tennis athletes. He is also the owner of “W2 Performance”. Prior to working in the performance field, he spent time as a professional football player, spending time with the Atlanta Falcons, Kansas City Chiefs, and Saskatchewan Roughriders (CFL).
In the supportive role of physical preparation/S&C, it is very easy to partition the process of weightlifting away from the actual needs and demand of explosive, chaotic sports. It’s also easy to get carried away with excessive auxiliary work, or “atomizing” facets of power work/RFD that don’t end up transferring to actual explosive sport skills. In this sense, it’s helpful to personally spend time in sport, in skill acquisition, and in strength development one’s self, to intuitively understand the balance, and synergy, between athletic components.
Will’s athletic background, love for sport and play, and raw “horsepower” is a unique combination. He was a semi-pro athlete, can clean and jerk 198kg, dunks a basketball with ease, and also loves to play a variety of games and sports. Will has an analytical process to his performance programming, and asks important questions that have use really dig into the why of what we are doing in the gym (and beyond).
On the show today, Will talks about his athletic, game-play and strength background, and how despite being more than physically capable, did not make the pro level of football. Will then goes into ideas on what we should actually be looking to improve/intensity in the gym setting. He chats on how to avoid training things that really don’t matter in the grand scheme of everything an athlete is asked to do. Will finishes with his thoughts on the specificity of potentiation, jump and sprint variability training, and then a great take on the “Olympic lifts vs. loaded jumps” debate.
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Timestamps and Main Points:
3:40 – How many “Bang” energy drinks Will believes the typical strength coach should consume daily
4:51 – Will’s background in athletics, sport, and athletic performance
9:53 – The importance of play in fitness and boosting overall athletic qualities
16:02 – Why Will, despite being athletically physically superior to many other football players, did not make it as a pro-football player and what he has learned from that
21:35 – Will thoughts on things he would choose to intensify in the gym, such as barbell velocity
27:17 – Thoughts on “generalized” power training methods
33:39 – Will’s take on not wasting time in the gym, and how to avoid redundancy in the course of training
47:58 – Will’s thoughts on heavy strongman work, squats and deadlifts and the optimal potentiation for sport skills
55:15 – How Will approaches jump and sprint variability in his warmups for training
1:03:46 – Will’s take on loaded jumps versus Olympic lifting, and the utility of Olympic lifting in sport preparation
“It’s really difficult to get people,who are my peers, on a Saturday afternoon, to go play racquetball, or go play pickleball, or something like that…. When you do get a group of people to go play a game like that, they always say, “we should do this more often””
“I think a lot of times (playing) is going to have a better training effect than going in the gym for an hour”
“I didn’t have the (tactical) ability that would have been required for me to play at that level… the general perception action abilities were right up there with anybody else, I just didn’t have the specific perception action abilities”

May 19, 2022 • 1h 22min
307: Dan John on High-Velocity Learning, Games for Explosive Athletes, and Training Synergy
Dan John, strength coach and writer, discusses the importance of whole movement training in explosive sports like volleyball. He emphasizes the value of creativity and variability in athlete training, while cautioning against overwhelming athletes with too much information. The podcast also explores bridging the gap between training and competition, the significance of rules in a training program, and the importance of fundamentals and basics in improving athletic performance.