
World of Wisdom
A curiosity driven podcast about wisdom, learning and the personal and systemic implications of the transition we are in. Hosted by Amit Paul and Nils von Heijne. For extended shownotes visit: https://worldofwisdom.substack.com/
Latest episodes

Apr 14, 2025 • 1h 8min
262. Ola Jönsson - Identities, transformative investments and great decisions
Ola Jönsson (LinkedIn) founder of Coest among other things came by the podcast. We spoke of profit and company growth as a part of but not the goal of companies. We spoke of identities and how they are important and how they interact. What it takes to start from scarcity - why are people that haven't prove extractive capacity as trustworthy in our society? What are Coests investment principles? Why are so many people driven by money and much more. This is a conversation on how to transform business into what we need it to be in our times. Enjoy!

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Apr 5, 2025 • 1h 9min
261. Michael Haupt - Collapse, systems change and 9 mental models for navigating our times
Michael Haupt, a recovering corporate technologist and regenerative practitioner, shares his insights on the intricacies of systems change and societal transitions. He discusses the necessity of a different approach to navigate current challenges, emphasizing the importance of adapting to evolving systems. Haupt introduces nine mental models that facilitate understanding climate change and societal structures, advocating for greater community engagement. The conversation dives into collapsology, exploring historical patterns of civilization and the potential for local self-organization in the face of crises.

Mar 30, 2025 • 54min
260. WoW Roundtable (part 2): Evaluation, scaling and amplifying life force in regenerative gatherings
Audrey Fillion (EP224), Ria Baeck (EP155), Adrian Wagner gathered for the second part of the first ever World of Wisdom roundtable. We spoke of evaluation, scaling, micro-moments of empathy and scaling. Beyond scaling up we also need to scale deep and wide. And how we can do that through technology. This deep conversation also touches upon the path dependency of our tools, what it takes to generate healthy soil and most of all what happens when "we take god a bit more seriously than ourselves. Enjoy!

Mar 23, 2025 • 1h 9min
259. WoW Roundtable: Gatherings. Measurement, doing and outcomes of regenerative gatherings (Pt 1)
Audrey Fillion (EP224), Ria Baeck (EP155), Adrian Wagner gathered for the first ever World of Wisdom roundtable. This time we spoke about regenerative gatherings. This conversation is a rich and deep exploration with people that probably have a century of experience of gatherings between them. We speak of attention, action, what can be done and what is 'right action'. We speak of the substrate of gatherings, the importance of pioneers and how relationships are like soil that we can then plant seeds in. There is so much more. Take a listen!

Mar 16, 2025 • 1h 4min
258. Ruben Daniels - sovereignty, interbeing and systems transformation
Ruben Daniels (Founder of Allelo) and I had a wonderful conversation about systems transformation, digital sovereignty and what it takes to begin living into a stable state of interbeing. Ruben is a successful IT entrepreneur that has since shifted his focus towards sovereignty- food, economic and digital. We speak especially about the economic and digital aspects of this sovereignty. Ruben is also a co-creator of the Masterminding Eden that Camara Cassin recently spoke of on the podcast. Ruben is a fellow ecosystems weaver and systems thinker and this is a wonderful conversation! Enjoy!

Mar 6, 2025 • 1h 5min
257. Camara Cassin - Masterminding Eden an approach to connecting the silos
Camara Cassin (LinkedIn) mother of 4, Environmental Science Technologist and transformation powerhouse as well as source and Founder of Masterminding Eden. We speak of the technologies that are already there, the seeds of what may come next. The importance of social as well as other technologies to break the silos. Why it's important to build a concrete pilot in a particular place and then replicate that. We also speak of the Overton window, the conditions for transformation and why it's important to both make a difference and to come together. Check out the link to Masterminding Eden event above. Enjoy

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Feb 25, 2025 • 1h 4min
256. Kasper Bjorkskov - shifting the building industry, transformation through action and biodiversity
Kasper Bjorkskov, an activist and consultant focused on systemic change in the building industry, shares his insights on creating resilient transformations in Denmark. He emphasizes the importance of biodiversity as a metric for change rather than just carbon reduction. The conversation dives into the role architects play in fostering connections between built environments and human well-being. Kasper discusses tactical activism and the need for collective action, urging listeners to embrace a holistic approach to sustainability and recognize nature's intrinsic value.

Feb 18, 2025 • 59min
255. Turiya Hanover - finding out what is between you and love
Turiya Hanover (LinkedIn) one of the founders of Path of Love. We speak of the transformation that is possible when we become honest with ourselves and its potential for the world we live in. What does it take to find out what's between yourself and love? What if your deepest pain explored will bring you to your deepest humbleness? What if this notion of equality is misconstrued - what if, instead, we're all invited to come home to the life we're meant to lead? A life where some happen to be big and some not. This is a wonderful, concrete, conversation about what it takes to come home. For more about path of love: https://pathretreats.com

Feb 10, 2025 • 59min
254. Hanna Moisander - the board as a bridge to owners and personal responsibility
Hanna Moisander (LinkedIn), co-founder of Deb is on a mission to democratise boards and radically shift their demographic. As we move through some of the basics of board work there are some radical calls to action that emerge. The notion that the board is one of the few points in the corporate world where there is direct personal responsibility. Deb is pioneering the perspective that we need to radically transform the demographics of boards if we want different outcomes. Also dipping into some of their experience on what happens to company performance as boards are transformed, both in terms of financial and sustainability performance. This is a very practical conversation, an invitation to taking your responsibility right now.

Jan 20, 2025 • 1h 6min
253. Rory Tews - Macro shifts and micro transformations, agency and empowerment
Rory Tews (LinkedIn) visited the podcast and we spoke of his work in societal transformation. Rory's been working in many domains of transformation and transition. From financial markets to building markets and institutions. This is a fundamental rethink and reframe of the challenges and shifts we stand before Rory is a first principle thinker that does not waver in the face of collapse. His notions are radical yet lives in the domain of the possible. One of the most interesting concepts is that of community level resilience. I dare you to listen and not be provoked. I dare you listen and not be inspired. Enjoy!
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