Long Island Serial Killer | The Trial Of Rex Heuermann

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Nov 16, 2023 • 8min

How Is the Wife Of LISK Suspect, Rex Heuermann, Healing From Trauma?

In the complex and disturbing case of Rex Heuermann, the alleged Long Island serial killer, a new twist has emerged with the sudden resignation of Suffolk County Police Commissioner Rodney Harrison. His departure raises numerous questions about the future of the investigation and the dark secrets it might uncover.    Tony Brueski, host of the "Hidden Killers" podcast, delved into this development with psychotherapist and author Shavaun Scott. The conversation centered around the intricacies of Harrison’s resignation and its potential implications for the Gilgo Beach murder case.    "What drove Rodney Harrison, a key figure in the pursuit of justice for the Gilgo Beach murders, to suddenly resign?" Brueski asked, setting the stage for a discussion filled with speculation and analysis. Scott responded, “There are only a few plausible reasons for such a move. Either Harrison has a significant opportunity elsewhere, or there’s an unsavory element that forced his hand.”    The discussion then turned to the possibility of Harrison stepping down due to external pressures or threats, given the case’s complexity and the involvement of law enforcement in the same circles as Heuermann. Brueski speculated, "Could Harrison have discovered something so ominous that it compelled him to prioritize personal safety over the pursuit of justice?"    Scott weighed in on the possibility of internal conflicts within the department influencing Harrison's decision. "Jealousy and resentment can be powerful adversaries, even for a successful commissioner. Harrison’s departure might be the result of internal departmental strife," she suggested.    Moreover, the discussion touched on the strange behavior of Harrison during a recent press conference with John Ray, the attorney representing some of the LISK victims. Scott observed, “Harrison seemed disengaged and lacked his usual determination. This could have been an early sign of his impending resignation.”    The conversation also explored the role of Asa Ellerup, Heuermann's wife, in the ongoing saga. Scott noted, "If she was indeed aware of her husband's illicit activities, it would be crucial for her psychological healing to confront and communicate with him, even if it's just to express her own turmoil.”    As the case unfolds, the question remains: What lies beneath the surface of Rodney Harrison's abrupt departure, and how will it impact the Long Island serial killer investigation? The enigma surrounding Rex Heuermann and the Gilgo Beach murders continues to captivate and confound, leaving observers and investigators alike grappling with a sea of uncertainties and the potential of deeper, darker truths yet to be uncovered. Want to listen to ALL of our podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for three days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Awaiting Admission: BTK’s Unconfessed Crimes, Delphi Murders: Inside the Crime, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Malevolent Mormon Mommys, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com
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Nov 16, 2023 • 8min

Gilgo Beach Serial Killer Suspect Transfers Home to Estranged Wife Amid Murder Trial, Wife Attends Court Appearance

Accused Gilgo Beach serial killer Rex Heuermann, who is facing charges related to the murders of three women more than a decade ago, recently transferred ownership of his Long Island home to his estranged wife, Asa Ellerup. The move comes as Heuermann remains behind bars, and the trial for his alleged crimes is underway. Ellerup, who is closely following the proceedings, attended her husband's court appearance today.    Heuermann, 60, signed over the deed of his Massapequa Park house to Ellerup in September, naming her the sole owner, according to documents obtained by the US Sun. The transfer of ownership was finalized on October 5, and this property had been a focal point of the police investigation into the long-unsolved murders.    The home, which Heuermann had purchased for $170,000 in 1994, had appreciated in value to approximately $530,000 this year. Following Heuermann's arrest in July, Ellerup and their two adult children, Christopher and Victoria, were forced to leave the property while police executed search warrants and combed through it for potential evidence related to the murders.    Ellerup, who filed for divorce about a week after her husband's arrest, recently visited Heuermann in jail for the first time since his incarceration. Her lawyer, Robert Macedonio, confirmed her intention to attend her estranged husband's trial, stating, "She wants to make her own judgment based on the evidence presented at trial."    In addition to the property transfer, Ellerup has filed court documents demanding the return of her husband's extensive collection of legally purchased firearms, as well as any outstanding jewelry, clothing, and cash that were removed from their home during the police search.    Today, Asa Ellerup was present in court during her husband's trial. She appeared somber as she walked in with her legal team and did not make eye contact with any of the members of the media lined up at the courthouse.    Ellerup and Heuermann reportedly locked eyes when he was escorted out in handcuffs. The accused killer's longtime spouse remained composed as her husband flashed her several glances, and she appeared to smile at him.    She then frowned after he turned to face the judge.    Alongside members of her legal team, and possibly a producer for a documentary, Ellerup sat in the third row and listened intently throughout the proceeding.    After the proceeding ended, she exited the courthouse without issuing a comment and was driven away in a white SUV.    Rex Heuermann's attorney, Michael Brown, informed the judge during the proceeding that his team had not yet received the full minutes from the grand jury that voted to indict his client. He said 75 pages were missing.    He also asked for investigation discovery dating back to 2010 and lab report results, which he said were important to have before the trial moved forward.    Prosecutors informed the judge that they provided 200 pages of information and 13,000 photos to Brown on October 17. They said they would send the missing 75 pages sometime in the future.    The judge, Timothy Mazzei of Suffolk County, appeared surprised by the amount of evidence that had been exchanged.    Heuermann's next court date is scheduled for February 6, 2024, as the legal proceedings continue.    It was also revealed that Ellerup has begun collaborating with a documentary crew, possibly for a project following her journey during Heuermann's trial. Her presence in court and her personal exploration of the evidence highlight the complex and emotional nature of this high-profile murder case.    Rex Heuermann has pleaded not guilty to the charges against him, which include the murders of Megan Waterman, Melissa Barthelemy, and Amber Lynn Costello, whose bodies were found on Gilgo Beach in 2010. He is also considered the prime suspect in the killing of Maureen Brainard-Barnes, whose body was discovered near the others.    Ellerup's visit to her former home, where her children still reside, hints at the ongoing impact of these chilling crimes on the lives of those involved. As the trial unfolds, the public and media will continue to closely follow this case, seeking justice and answers to the mysteries that have haunted Gilgo Beach for years.  Want to listen to ALL of our podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for three days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Awaiting Admission: BTK’s Unconfessed Crimes, Delphi Murders: Inside the Crime, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Malevolent Mormon Mommys, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com
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Nov 15, 2023 • 13min

Did Some Corrupt Police Know of Accused Rex Heuermann's Twisted Life?

In the perplexing saga of the Gilgo Beach murders, is Rex Heuermann merely a piece of a much larger, more intricate puzzle? This pressing question emerges amidst new developments and allegations surrounding Heuermann and his wife, Asa Ellerup, brought forward by renowned retired FBI Special Agent Robin Dreeke.    Speaking with Tony Brueski on the "Hidden Killers" podcast, Dreeke delved into the latest updates from John Ray, the defense attorney representing some of the Gilgo Beach victims. According to Ray, new witnesses have come forward with signed affidavits detailing Heuermann's involvement in swinging clubs in the late 1990s. This new evidence suggests that Heuermann, along with his wife, might have been part of a disturbing narrative that connects to several murders and the seedy underbelly of sex trafficking.    Dreeke highlighted the significance of these developments, noting, "He's got this behavior arc of a stalker of someone looking for victims... and the thing that really struck me was that one of the girls that went to the house was a couple that was supposed to do swapping with Heuermann, his wife, and another girl they brought in, which was one of the victims."    This revelation not only implicates Heuermann in more sordid activities but also raises questions about the involvement and knowledge of his wife, Asa. The allegations don't directly accuse her of knowing about the murders, but they do suggest she might have been aware of her husband's deviant behaviors.    Furthermore, the involvement of a law enforcement detective from the NYPD in these activities adds another layer of complexity to the case. "This is what's bothered me on this... the allegations that other law enforcement professionals and detectives, not even from Long Island, were part of seeing it," Dreeke expressed his concerns.    The recent resignation of Suffolk County Police Commissioner Rodney Harrison, amidst these unfolding events, adds to the intrigue. Brueski pointed out, "It just seems a little odd... Are you getting too close to something far bigger than even Rex Heuermann?" This sudden departure, coupled with the murky history of former police chief James Burke, hints at a potentially deeper corruption within the law enforcement ranks.    The case takes another turn with the allegation of Asa Ellerup's presence and possible awareness of Heuermann's actions. "One of the witnesses... alleges she had with Ellerup in the upstairs of their home, as she alleges Rex went downstairs and had sex with her boyfriend," Brueski detailed. This interaction, if true, may shed light on Asa's understanding of her husband's lifestyle and the types of people he associated with.    The complexity of the case is further compounded by the lack of transparency and missteps by law enforcement. Dreeke pointed out, "There's something off with how they treated her in that house... when they're all their statements and still are that Asa is innocent and not aware of it, then why did you treat her and her kids and the premises so horrendously?"    As new allegations and evidence surface, one can't help but wonder if Rex Heuermann's case is just the tip of an iceberg, hinting at a much larger, darker network. The role of Asa, the involvement of law enforcement, and the sudden resignation of key figures paint a complex picture that demands scrutiny and investigation.    As Dreeke and Brueski continue to unravel this tangled web, one question remains: How deep does the rabbit hole of the Gilgo Beach murders go, and what more will we uncover about Rex Heuermann and those connected to him? Want to listen to ALL of our podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for three days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Awaiting Admission: BTK’s Unconfessed Crimes, Delphi Murders: Inside the Crime, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Malevolent Mormon Mommys, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com
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Nov 13, 2023 • 10min

"Aggressive and Unsettling”: Former Co-Workers Reveal Alarming Behavior of Suspected Gilgo Beach Killer Rex Heuermann

Former colleagues of Rex Heuermann, the architect charged with multiple murders in the Gilgo Beach case, have come forward with disturbing accounts of his behavior, describing him as “aggressive” and unsettling, intensifying the dark cloud surrounding the high-profile case.    Jeffrey St. Arromand, a luxury real estate salesman who worked with Heuermann, detailed his daunting experiences to Andrea Canning on a “Dateline” episode. “He was very assertive, maybe even leaning to the point of being aggressive,” St. Arromand expressed, highlighting a deeply concerning aspect of Heuermann’s demeanor. His revelations shed light on the suspect's character, contrasting starkly with his professional persona as a knowledgeable architect.    The discomfort among Heuermann's colleagues was palpable, with one individual reportedly avoiding the office to escape his presence. “She just didn’t feel comfortable with him at all,” St. Arromand recalled, echoing a sentiment of fear that has become a recurring theme in discussions about Heuermann.    Despite his aggressive nature at work, Heuermann’s personal life presented a contradiction. Known for his encyclopedic knowledge of New York City’s building codes, he lived in a dilapidated house in Massapequa Park, only a short distance from where the bodies of his alleged victims were discovered.    Heuermann, 59, has pleaded not guilty to the murders of Melissa Barthlemey, Megan Waterman, and Amber Lynn Costello. Additionally, he is the prime suspect in the killing of Maureen Brainard-Barnes, with police continuing to investigate his potential involvement in other crimes.    Former co-worker Mary Shell’s statement to “Dateline” resonated with a sense of fear and anger, particularly among women. “The idea that, as a woman, you have to be suspicious and be afraid all the time just to stay alive is enraging,” she said, reflecting a broader societal concern about women's safety.    The chilling revelations about Heuermann come as the “Dateline” special “The Hunt for the Gilgo Beach Killer” aired Friday night on Dateline, coinciding with the unexpected resignation of Suffolk County Police Commissioner Rodney Harrison. His departure from the department, only a few months into the renewed investigation adds another layer of complexity to the already convoluted case.    As the community grapples with these revelations, the case against Heuermann continues to develop, casting a somber light on the realities of criminal behavior and its impact on society. The “Dateline” special promises to delve deeper into the enigmatic and disturbing narrative of the Gilgo Beach killings, a case that has captivated and horrified the nation.  Want to listen to ALL of our podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for three days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Awaiting Admission: BTK’s Unconfessed Crimes, Delphi Murders: Inside the Crime, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Malevolent Mormon Mommys, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com
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Nov 10, 2023 • 11min

Alleged Gilgo Beach Serial Killer Receives Rare Visit from Estranged Wife in Jail

In a surprising turn of events, Rex A. Heuermann, the alleged Gilgo Beach serial killer, received a visit from his estranged wife, Asa Ellerup, at the Suffolk County Jail in Riverhead on Wednesday. This visit, confirmed by Ellerup's divorce attorney, Bob Macedonio, marks the first time she has visited Heuermann since filing for divorce just six days after his arrest on first- and second-degree murder charges in connection with the killings of three women.    "I can confirm that Asa did visit with Rex yesterday," stated Macedonio in response to inquiries. However, he did not provide any further comments regarding the visit. On the other hand, jail spokesperson Victoria DiStefano neither denied nor confirmed Ellerup's visit but did mention, "As per policy, we do not release the names of visitors, but I can confirm that Rex Heuermann received a visit yesterday."    Heuermann's defense attorney, Michael J. Brown, has not responded to messages seeking comment on this unexpected visit. Brown had previously mentioned that Ellerup had been in telephonic communication with Heuermann while he has been incarcerated.    The 60-year-old former Manhattan architect has been held without bail since his arrest in connection with the killings of Megan Waterman, Melissa Barthelemy, and Amber Lynn Costello. All three women's remains were discovered near Gilgo Beach more than a decade ago. Heuermann has pleaded not guilty to these charges.    Prosecutors have further implicated Heuermann as the prime suspect in the slaying of Maureen Brainard-Barnes, whose remains were discovered alongside those of the other three victims. All four women, who were sex workers, were among the first of 10 sets of remains found along Ocean Parkway, believed to be the work of one or more serial killers.    Despite the ongoing legal battles and the gravity of the charges, Heuermann is not contesting the divorce proceedings initiated by Ellerup, which are still pending.    The unexpected visit raises questions about the relationship between Heuermann and Ellerup, who chose to file for divorce shortly after her husband's arrest. Legal experts speculate on the nature of their conversations during this visit and how it might impact the pending murder trial. While details of the meeting remain confidential, it adds another layer of intrigue to a case that has captivated public attention for over a decade.    As the legal proceedings continue, the Gilgo Beach serial killer case remains a gripping and complex mystery, with Heuermann's visit from his estranged wife being the latest development in a saga that has spanned more than 13 years. Want to listen to ALL of our podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for three days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Awaiting Admission: BTK’s Unconfessed Crimes, Delphi Murders: Inside the Crime, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Malevolent Mormon Mommys, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com
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Oct 29, 2023 • 8min

WEEK IN REVIEW-Rex Heuermann Faces More Murder Charges And New Allegation Against His Wife

Welcome to the "Week In Review," where we delve into the true stories behind this week's headlines. Your host, Tony Brueski, joins hands with a rotating roster of guests, sharing their insights and analysis on a collection of intriguing, perplexing, and often chilling stories that made the news.       This is not your average news recap. With the sharp investigative lens of Tony and his guests, the show uncovers layers beneath the headlines, offering a comprehensive perspective that traditional news can often miss. From high-profile criminal trials to in-depth examinations of ongoing investigations, this podcast takes listeners on a fascinating journey through the world of true crime and current events.       Each episode navigates through multiple stories, illuminating their details with factual reporting, expert commentary, and engaging conversation. Tony and his guests discuss each case's nuances, complexities, and human elements, delivering a multi-dimensional understanding to their audience.  Whether you are a dedicated follower of true crime or an everyday listener interested in the stories shaping our world, the "Week In Review" brings you the perfect balance of intrigue, information, and intelligent conversation. Expect thoughtful analysis, informed opinions, and thought-provoking discussions beyond the 24-hour news cycle. Want to listen to ALL of our podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for three days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Awaiting Admission: BTK’s Unconfessed Crimes, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com
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Oct 28, 2023 • 10min

WEEK IN REVIEW-Will A 1996 Swingers Party Help Convict Rex Heuermann Of More Murders?

Welcome to the "Week In Review," where we delve into the true stories behind this week's headlines. Your host, Tony Brueski, joins hands with a rotating roster of guests, sharing their insights and analysis on a collection of intriguing, perplexing, and often chilling stories that made the news.       This is not your average news recap. With the sharp investigative lens of Tony and his guests, the show uncovers layers beneath the headlines, offering a comprehensive perspective that traditional news can often miss. From high-profile criminal trials to in-depth examinations of ongoing investigations, this podcast takes listeners on a fascinating journey through the world of true crime and current events.       Each episode navigates through multiple stories, illuminating their details with factual reporting, expert commentary, and engaging conversation. Tony and his guests discuss each case's nuances, complexities, and human elements, delivering a multi-dimensional understanding to their audience.  Whether you are a dedicated follower of true crime or an everyday listener interested in the stories shaping our world, the "Week In Review" brings you the perfect balance of intrigue, information, and intelligent conversation. Expect thoughtful analysis, informed opinions, and thought-provoking discussions beyond the 24-hour news cycle. Want to listen to ALL of our podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for three days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Awaiting Admission: BTK’s Unconfessed Crimes, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com
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Oct 28, 2023 • 10min

WEEK IN REVIEW-What Rex Heuermann's Alleged 'Sex Parties' Tell Us About His Penchant For Deviant Behavior

Welcome to the "Week In Review," where we delve into the true stories behind this week's headlines. Your host, Tony Brueski, joins hands with a rotating roster of guests, sharing their insights and analysis on a collection of intriguing, perplexing, and often chilling stories that made the news.       This is not your average news recap. With the sharp investigative lens of Tony and his guests, the show uncovers layers beneath the headlines, offering a comprehensive perspective that traditional news can often miss. From high-profile criminal trials to in-depth examinations of ongoing investigations, this podcast takes listeners on a fascinating journey through the world of true crime and current events.       Each episode navigates through multiple stories, illuminating their details with factual reporting, expert commentary, and engaging conversation. Tony and his guests discuss each case's nuances, complexities, and human elements, delivering a multi-dimensional understanding to their audience.  Whether you are a dedicated follower of true crime or an everyday listener interested in the stories shaping our world, the "Week In Review" brings you the perfect balance of intrigue, information, and intelligent conversation. Expect thoughtful analysis, informed opinions, and thought-provoking discussions beyond the 24-hour news cycle. Want to listen to ALL of our podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for three days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Awaiting Admission: BTK’s Unconfessed Crimes, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com
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Oct 28, 2023 • 11min

WEEK IN REVIEW-How Could Gilgo Beach Killer Live A Normal Life Amongst Us?

Welcome to the "Week In Review," where we delve into the true stories behind this week's headlines. Your host, Tony Brueski, joins hands with a rotating roster of guests, sharing their insights and analysis on a collection of intriguing, perplexing, and often chilling stories that made the news.       This is not your average news recap. With the sharp investigative lens of Tony and his guests, the show uncovers layers beneath the headlines, offering a comprehensive perspective that traditional news can often miss. From high-profile criminal trials to in-depth examinations of ongoing investigations, this podcast takes listeners on a fascinating journey through the world of true crime and current events.       Each episode navigates through multiple stories, illuminating their details with factual reporting, expert commentary, and engaging conversation. Tony and his guests discuss each case's nuances, complexities, and human elements, delivering a multi-dimensional understanding to their audience.  Whether you are a dedicated follower of true crime or an everyday listener interested in the stories shaping our world, the "Week In Review" brings you the perfect balance of intrigue, information, and intelligent conversation. Expect thoughtful analysis, informed opinions, and thought-provoking discussions beyond the 24-hour news cycle. Want to listen to ALL of our podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for three days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Awaiting Admission: BTK’s Unconfessed Crimes, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com
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Oct 26, 2023 • 9min

Will A 1996 Swingers Party Help Convict Rex Heuermann of More Murders?

"Could Rex Heuermann, the alleged Gilgo Beach murderer, have more secrets buried than initially perceived?"   The Gilgo Beach murders have long left a cloud of mystery over Long Island, NY, with Rex Heuermann being accused as the infamous serial killer. However, new revelations and testimonies have surfaced, hinting at more potential murders. The defense attorney representing some of the victims has provided shocking details, linking Heuermann with two other possible connections: Richard Allen and a series of confessions.    In the recent episode of the "Hidden Killers" podcast, host Tony Brueski sat down with Jennifer Coffindaffer, a retired FBI Special Agent, to discuss these unsettling findings. Witnesses, particularly former sex workers, have given sworn testimonies stating that they had direct interactions with Richard Allen, alleging their participation in his sex parties. One of the most startling aspects of these accounts is the presence of Asa Ellerup, Allen’s spouse, in their home during these parties. Though her involvement remains a gray area, it suggests that she might have had more knowledge of her husband's life than previously believed.    One particular witness, referred to as "witness one" for anonymity, shared a vivid account of her visit to Rex Heuermann's house in Long Island. She claims to have been involved in a swinging party with both Heuermann and his wife, alongside Karen Vergata and her police officer boyfriend. A key element in this account is the timeline. Asa, Heuermann’s wife, was allegedly pregnant during the time of the supposed party, raising eyebrows and questions regarding her involvement and knowledge.    The conversation also highlighted the alleged modus operandi of Heuermann, which revolved around sex parties and his dealings with sex workers. Heuermann, as described by the hosts, isn’t someone who blends into the crowd, making him memorable for those involved in such activities during the late '90s.    Another testimony cited a conversation between one witness and Asa Ellerup in the latter’s home. The witness alleges that Ellerup expressed gratitude towards Rex for providing everything for her, yet she also admitted her fear of him. If these accounts are accurate, they could shed more light on the dynamics between the accused and his spouse, and the extent of Asa’s knowledge and involvement.    While these revelations are alarming, verifying their accuracy is paramount. Jennifer Coffindaffer emphasized the need for specific details regarding the house's layout to validate these claims. She also underscored the importance of corroborating these stories, particularly through the policeman mentioned in the testimonies. "This should be able to be corroborated in terms of at least those two avenues," said Coffindaffer.    An interesting angle in this unfolding narrative is the role of John Ray, the attorney for some of the victims. Ray has been collecting these testimonies, suggesting that potential witnesses might be more comfortable sharing their stories with him rather than law enforcement. Coffindaffer acknowledges this strategy but remains cautious, stating, "there's ways to corroborate this information and I'm waiting to see if there's any corroboration because right now, I don't know if I'm buying all of it."    With the police commissioner standing alongside Ray during a recent press conference, the police force seems committed to investigating these claims thoroughly. The objective? To get to the truth.    With these unsettling revelations, one can't help but wonder, "If these claims are verified, what other secrets might be lurking in the shadows of this chilling case?" Want to listen to ALL of our podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for three days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Awaiting Admission: BTK’s Unconfessed Crimes, Delphi Murders: Inside the Crime, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Malevolent Mormon Mommys, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com

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