Robin Seyr

Robin Seyr
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Oct 21, 2025 • 1h 25min

50 Ounces of Gold per 1 Bitcoin Within 12 Months (Here’s the Math)

Source Node and Robin Seyr explore the intersections of Bitcoin, energy grids, and the evolving financial landscape. They discuss the significance of measuring Bitcoin against gold rather than fiat currencies, the cultural implications of gold in different societies, and the relevance of the cypherpunk movement in today's Bitcoin community. The conversation also delves into the sovereign individual thesis, integral theory, and the future of work in a decentralized economy. Take your Self-Custody seriously and Get a Microseed:- https://microseed.ioContact the CyberSecurity & Self Custody Experts from the Bitcoin Way:- 30 mins free call with my link: https://thebitcoinway.com/robinWant to mine Bitcoin? I personally use simplemining!- Go to: https://simplemining.ioGuest's contact: https://sourcenode.xyzTakeawaysBitcoin mining is crucial for energy grids.Gold serves as a better measure for Bitcoin than fiat currencies.The financial system operates on a two-part structure: elites and the general public.Gold retains intrinsic value beyond its monetary premium.The cypherpunk ethos is still present in the Bitcoin community.The sovereign individual thesis is manifesting in modern work trends.Bitcoin miners may evolve into energy producers.Integral theory provides a framework for understanding diverse perspectives.Cultural attitudes towards gold vary significantly across regions.The government has limited sovereignty over individuals' financial choices.Chapters00:00 The Sovereign Individual Thesis and Bitcoin's Role05:12 Gold vs. Bitcoin: A New Measure of Value11:46 The Future of Gold in a Bitcoin World16:13 Central Banks and the Shift to Bitcoin27:01 The Genesis Book: Understanding Bitcoin's Origins32:36 The Cypherpunk Movement and Bitcoin's Evolution39:16 The Future of Bitcoin Podcasts and Adoption42:09 The Future of Energy and Bitcoin Mining46:06 The Rise of the Sovereign Individual55:02 Navigating Political Landscapes and Personal Freedom01:06:08 Understanding Integral Theory01:17:27 Insights Beyond BitcoinThis content is for educational and/or entertainment purposes only.The views expressed by Robin Seyr and his guests are their own and do not constitute financial advice.Nothing in the title, thumbnail, description, or video/audio is to be interpreted as investment, tax, or legal advice.I am not a financial advisor and do not provide financial services as defined by MiCA or other financial regulations.Mentioning or featuring any product, service, or company does not imply endorsement.Some links may be affiliate links — using them helps support the show at no extra cost to you.Always do your own research. Investing in cryptocurrencies involves risk and may not be suitable for everyone.Viewers and listeners are responsible for complying with their local laws and regulations.
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Oct 20, 2025 • 1h 24min

You’ll Never See Money The Same After Bitcoin

Nolan Bauerle (countbtc) discuss the evolution of Bitcoin amidst the ongoing fiat apocalypse, emphasizing the psychological aspects of the economy and the cognitive dissonance faced by individuals in understanding the financial system. They explore the role of media in shaping public perception, the art of persuasion in politics through K-Fabe, and the future of Bitcoin as a decentralized economic model. Take your Self-Custody seriously and Get a Microseed:- https://microseed.ioContact the CyberSecurity & Self Custody Experts from the Bitcoin Way:- 30 mins free call with my link: https://thebitcoinway.com/robinWant to mine Bitcoin? I personally use simplemining!- Go to: https://simplemining.ioGuest's contact: https://x.com/countbtcTakeawaysBitcoin is evolving as a psychological commodity.The fiat apocalypse is a reality that Bitcoiners are preparing for.Cognitive dissonance affects how people perceive economic realities.The media plays a significant role in shaping public perception of Bitcoin.K-Fabe illustrates the art of persuasion in politics and media.The future of Bitcoin may not involve a direct exchange rate with fiat currencies.Bitcoiners have a responsibility to help those struggling with cognitive dissonance.The World War II consensus model is breaking down in modern discourse.Personal relationships in media can influence public opinion and narratives.The psychological economy is crucial for understanding innovation and growth.Chapters00:00 The Evolution of Bitcoin and the Fiat Apocalypse06:10 Cognitive Dissonance and Economic Realities12:11 The Role of Psychological Factors in Innovation17:52 K-Fabe: The Art of Persuasion in Politics and Bitcoin24:10 The Future of Bitcoin and the Financial System43:52 The World War II Consensus Model54:14 Nakamoto Consensus and Its Implications01:00:24 The Future of Bitcoin and Society01:17:12 Reflections on Echo Chambers and ResponsibilityThis content is for educational and/or entertainment purposes only.The views expressed by Robin Seyr and his guests are their own and do not constitute financial advice.Nothing in the title, thumbnail, description, or video/audio is to be interpreted as investment, tax, or legal advice.I am not a financial advisor and do not provide financial services as defined by MiCA or other financial regulations.Mentioning or featuring any product, service, or company does not imply endorsement.Some links may be affiliate links — using them helps support the show at no extra cost to you.Always do your own research. Investing in cryptocurrencies involves risk and may not be suitable for everyone.Viewers and listeners are responsible for complying with their local laws and regulations.
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Oct 19, 2025 • 1h 15min

The Moment Humanity Recognizes Bitcoin (Are You Prepared?)

Ioni Appelberg and Robin Seyr delve into personal transformations through Bitcoin, the importance of money in society, and the potential for a peaceful transition to a Bitcoinized world. The discussion also touches on the psychological aspects of preparing for catastrophe, the significance of acting from love rather than fear, and the concept of economic shelling points in economics.Take your Self-Custody seriously and Get a Microseed:- https://microseed.ioContact the CyberSecurity & Self Custody Experts from the Bitcoin Way:- 30 mins free call with my link: https://thebitcoinway.com/robinWant to mine Bitcoin? I personally use simplemining!- Go to: https://simplemining.ioGuest's contact: https://x.com/IoniAppelberg @IoniAppelberg  TakeawaysLive streaming offers a more engaging experience than traditional podcasting.Bitcoin can lead to profound personal transformations and awakenings.The transition to a Bitcoinized world requires careful navigation and preparation.Money serves as a foundational layer for societal stability.Conspiracy theories can distort critical thinking and understanding.Acting from love rather than fear is essential for personal growth.Bitcoin functions as a cosmic shelling point for economic transactions.The importance of community and shared values in the Bitcoin space.Awakening involves shedding past identities and embracing new truths.Life is meant to be lived fully and authentically.Chapters00:00 The Shift from Podcasting to Live Streaming03:07 Awakening Through Bitcoin: A Personal Journey05:56 The Pain of Transformation and Shedding the Past08:56 The Importance of Money in Society11:58 Navigating the Transition to a Bitcoinized World15:06 The Role of Institutions in Economic Stability17:48 The Gradual Shift Towards Bitcoin21:06 Preparing for Catastrophe: The Philosophy of Prepping23:48 Acting from Love vs. Fear26:53 The Concept of Cosmic Shelling Points43:56 The Challenge of Interstellar Communication48:00 Bitcoin as an Economic Shelling Point51:38 Bitcoin: A Universal Time and Space Marker56:06 The Significance of Block 1 Million01:02:28 Life Lessons Beyond Bitcoin01:13:03 Conspiracy Theories in the Bitcoin CommunityThis content is for educational and/or entertainment purposes only.The views expressed by Robin Seyr and his guests are their own and do not constitute financial advice.Nothing in the title, thumbnail, description, or video/audio is to be interpreted as investment, tax, or legal advice.I am not a financial advisor and do not provide financial services as defined by MiCA or other financial regulations.Mentioning or featuring any product, service, or company does not imply endorsement.Some links may be affiliate links — using them helps support the show at no extra cost to you.Always do your own research. Investing in cryptocurrencies involves risk and may not be suitable for everyone.Viewers and listeners are responsible for complying with their local laws and regulations.
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Oct 18, 2025 • 1h 57min

You Don’t Own Anything Until You Own Bitcoin

The Lie of Ownership (Why You Own Nothing Without Bitcoin)Take your Self-Custody seriously and Get a Microseed:- https://microseed.ioContact the CyberSecurity & Self Custody Experts from the Bitcoin Way:- 30 mins free call with my link: https://thebitcoinway.com/robinWant to mine Bitcoin? I personally use simplemining!- Go to: https://simplemining.ioGuest's contact:  @rajatsonifinance  This content is for educational and/or entertainment purposes only.The views expressed by Robin Seyr and his guests are their own and do not constitute financial advice.Nothing in the title, thumbnail, description, or video/audio is to be interpreted as investment, tax, or legal advice.I am not a financial advisor and do not provide financial services as defined by MiCA or other financial regulations.Mentioning or featuring any product, service, or company does not imply endorsement.Some links may be affiliate links — using them helps support the show at no extra cost to you.Always do your own research. Investing in cryptocurrencies involves risk and may not be suitable for everyone.Viewers and listeners are responsible for complying with their local laws and regulations.
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Oct 17, 2025 • 1h 12min

The Secret About Bitcoin They Can’t Freeze

Michael R. Sullivan discusses the recent launch of Sullivan's book, 'Blood of the Bourgeoisie,' and its timing amidst the fluctuating Bitcoin market. They explore the evolving dynamics within the Bitcoin community, the importance of decentralization, and the writing process behind the book, which conveys complex ideas about Bitcoin, the implications of wealth distribution, and the contrasting behaviors of retail and institutional investors in the Bitcoin space. Take your Self-Custody seriously and Get a Microseed:- https://microseed.ioContact the CyberSecurity & Self Custody Experts from the Bitcoin Way:- 30 mins free call with my link: https://thebitcoinway.com/robinWant to mine Bitcoin? I personally use simplemining!- Go to: https://simplemining.ioGuest's contact: https://x.com/sullymichaelvanTakeawaysThe timing of the book launch coincided with significant Bitcoin price movements.Book sales are closely linked to Bitcoin market sentiment.Sullivan emphasizes the importance of creating evergreen content.The Bitcoin community is becoming more fragmented with diverse subcultures.Decentralization metrics are important for assessing Bitcoin's health.Sullivan used advanced writing tools to enhance his writing process.The book aims to introduce Bitcoin concepts through an engaging narrative.Fiction can be a powerful medium for understanding complex topics like Bitcoin.Wealth distribution issues are central to the narrative of the book.Retail investors are currently less active compared to institutional investors. Chapters00:00 Introduction and Technical Setup01:32 Book Launch and Market Timing03:54 Bitcoin Market Sentiment and Community Dynamics10:14 Decentralization and Node Health12:50 Writing Process and Tools Used18:01 Overview of the Book: Blood of the Bourgeoisie25:44 Fiction as a Tool for Understanding Bitcoin31:01 Wealth Distribution and Bitcoin's Role39:38 The Impact of Bitcoin on Society46:06 Retail vs. Institutional Investors in Bitcoin51:46 Treasury Companies and Their Role in Bitcoin57:17 The Future of Altcoins and Bitcoin's Dominance01:01:01 Conclusion and Future OutlookThis content is for educational and/or entertainment purposes only.The views expressed by Robin Seyr and his guests are their own and do not constitute financial advice.Nothing in the title, thumbnail, description, or video/audio is to be interpreted as investment, tax, or legal advice.I am not a financial advisor and do not provide financial services as defined by MiCA or other financial regulations.Mentioning or featuring any product, service, or company does not imply endorsement.Some links may be affiliate links — using them helps support the show at no extra cost to you.Always do your own research. Investing in cryptocurrencies involves risk and may not be suitable for everyone.Viewers and listeners are responsible for complying with their local laws and regulations.
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Oct 16, 2025 • 1h 17min

Bitcoin Is Money You Can Take Anywhere (No Banks Needed)

Ruzbeh K discusses the importance of location sovereignty for Bitcoiners, the political landscape surrounding Bitcoin, and the implications of custodial versus self-custody of Bitcoin. The discussion highlights the importance of education in the Bitcoin space and the need to understand societal incentives. RK shares his insights on the future of Bitcoin and the necessity for individuals to be proactive about their financial security.Take your Self-Custody seriously and Get a Microseed:- https://microseed.ioContact the CyberSecurity & Self Custody Experts from the Bitcoin Way:- 30 mins free call with my link: https://thebitcoinway.com/robinWant to mine Bitcoin? I personally use simplemining!- Go to: https://simplemining.ioGuest's contact: https://x.com/rkbtcTakeawaysRK reflects on his past experiences living in Dubai and Europe.The quality of life in Dubai is perceived as better than in Europe.RK emphasizes the importance of location sovereignty for Bitcoiners.The political landscape in Europe is seen as increasingly unfavorable.Dubai offers a safe base for families and children.The conversation highlights the trade-offs of living in Dubai.Bitcoin provides individuals with more options and freedom.Self-custody of Bitcoin is crucial for personal security.The need for education in the Bitcoin space is emphasized.RK believes that Bitcoin is a neutral asset for everyone. Chapters00:00 Reconnecting and Reflecting on Past Conversations02:55 The Decision to Move Back to Dubai06:10 Quality of Life: Comparing Dubai and Europe09:06 The Importance of Location for Bitcoiners12:01 Navigating Life in Dubai: Pros and Cons14:57 The Role of Government and Safety in Dubai17:46 The Impact of Bitcoin on Location Sovereignty20:46 The Future of Europe and the Need for Change23:51 Incentives and Consequences in Society27:06 The Risks of Political Changes for Bitcoiners29:58 Final Thoughts on Freedom and Security36:54 Government Control and Financial Freedom39:08 Taxation and Property Ownership42:53 The Advantages of Bitcoin44:36 Political Perceptions of Bitcoin49:23 Bitcoin as a Universal Asset54:09 The Challenge of Understanding Bitcoin56:54 The Importance of Education in Bitcoin01:01:15 The Role of Custody in Bitcoin01:06:09 The Future of Bitcoin CustodyThis content is for educational and/or entertainment purposes only.The views expressed by Robin Seyr and his guests are their own and do not constitute financial advice.Nothing in the title, thumbnail, description, or video/audio is to be interpreted as investment, tax, or legal advice.I am not a financial advisor and do not provide financial services as defined by MiCA or other financial regulations.Mentioning or featuring any product, service, or company does not imply endorsement.Some links may be affiliate links — using them helps support the show at no extra cost to you.Always do your own research. Investing in cryptocurrencies involves risk and may not be suitable for everyone.Viewers and listeners are responsible for complying with their local laws and regulations.
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Oct 15, 2025 • 1h

Sellers Are About To Demand Bitcoin Everywhere The $1M Domino Effect

Eric Yakes and Robin Seyr discuss the evolving landscape of Bitcoin, focusing on its adoption in banking, the implications of stablecoins, and the potential for Bitcoin to serve as a central bank reserve asset. They explore the regulatory changes affecting banks' involvement with Bitcoin, the future of digital currencies, and the importance of infrastructure in facilitating Bitcoin's growth as a medium of exchange. Take your Self-Custody seriously and Get a Microseed:- https://microseed.ioContact the CyberSecurity & Self Custody Experts from the Bitcoin Way:- 30 mins free call with my link: https://thebitcoinway.com/robinWant to mine Bitcoin? I personally use simplemining!- Go to: https://simplemining.ioGuest's contact: https://x.com/ericyakesTakeawaysBitcoin's adoption is influenced by regulatory changes in the banking sector.Stablecoins are seen as a bridge to Bitcoin adoption.The future of Bitcoin as a reserve asset is promising due to its neutrality.Infrastructure is crucial for Bitcoin to become a global monetary system.The transition from a store of value to a medium of exchange is a key phase in Bitcoin's adoption.Venture capital plays a significant role in supporting Bitcoin infrastructure.Health and personal growth are important aspects of life beyond Bitcoin.The majority of Bitcoin users will adopt it through social proof and trust.The evolution of Bitcoin will take time, with a focus on gradual adoption.Understanding the complexities of Bitcoin's role in finance is essential for its future. Chapters00:00 Introduction and Chair Talk00:58 Bitcoin Market Trends and Predictions04:05 Bank Adoption of Bitcoin and Regulatory Changes08:01 The Role of Stablecoins in Bitcoin Adoption11:59 Disintermediation and the Future of Banking16:03 Tether and the Evolution of Stablecoins20:02 The Path to Bitcoin Adoption23:46 Conclusion and Key Insights28:46 Synergies Between Bitcoin and Business Models37:04 The Adoption Cycles of Bitcoin54:37 Bitcoin as a Central Bank Reserve AssetThis content is for educational and/or entertainment purposes only.The views expressed by Robin Seyr and his guests are their own and do not constitute financial advice.Nothing in the title, thumbnail, description, or video/audio is to be interpreted as investment, tax, or legal advice.I am not a financial advisor and do not provide financial services as defined by MiCA or other financial regulations.Mentioning or featuring any product, service, or company does not imply endorsement.Some links may be affiliate links — using them helps support the show at no extra cost to you.Always do your own research. Investing in cryptocurrencies involves risk and may not be suitable for everyone.Viewers and listeners are responsible for complying with their local laws and regulations.
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Oct 14, 2025 • 1h 11min

Bitcoin Turns Every Token Into Temporary Working Capital

Christopher Bendiksen and Robin Seyr discuss the current state of Bitcoin, touching on its perceived stagnation, community dynamics, and the controversies surrounding node implementations. The discussion also covers liquidity narratives, the future of Bitcoin in terms of demand and supply dynamics, and lessons learned from Monero's inflation model. Finally, they reflect on personal growth and experiences outside of Bitcoin.Take your Self-Custody seriously and Get a Microseed:- https://microseed.ioContact the CyberSecurity & Self Custody Experts from the Bitcoin Way:- 30 mins free call with my link: https://thebitcoinway.com/robinWant to mine Bitcoin? I personally use simplemining!- Go to: https://simplemining.ioGuest's contact: https://x.com/C_BendiksenTakeawaysBitcoin remains a stable protocol despite controversies.Community dynamics have shifted, with increased scrutiny on node implementations.Development challenges persist due to the complexity of Bitcoin's codebase.Market maturation is leading to reduced volatility in Bitcoin.Institutional adoption is hindered by regulatory hurdles in Europe.Liquidity narratives can be misleading; price dynamics matter more.The future of Bitcoin may involve more stable demand and supply.Lessons from Monero highlight the importance of strong monetary properties.Personal growth outside of Bitcoin is essential for holistic understanding.The focus should remain on Bitcoin's core properties: decentralization, security, and scarcity.Chapters00:00 The State of Bitcoin: A Boring Protocol02:57 Community Dynamics and Node Controversies06:10 Consensus Code and Development Challenges09:05 Volatility Trends and Market Maturation12:06 Institutional Adoption and Regulatory Hurdles14:55 Liquidity Narratives and Market Dynamics18:08 The Future of Bitcoin: Demand and Supply Dynamics20:59 Monero's Lessons on Inflation and Demand23:55 Personal Growth and Reflections Outside BitcoinThis content is for educational and/or entertainment purposes only.The views expressed by Robin Seyr and his guests are their own and do not constitute financial advice.Nothing in the title, thumbnail, description, or video/audio is to be interpreted as investment, tax, or legal advice.I am not a financial advisor and do not provide financial services as defined by MiCA or other financial regulations.Mentioning or featuring any product, service, or company does not imply endorsement.Some links may be affiliate links — using them helps support the show at no extra cost to you.Always do your own research. Investing in cryptocurrencies involves risk and may not be suitable for everyone.Viewers and listeners are responsible for complying with their local laws and regulations.
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Oct 13, 2025 • 1h 20min

The Model Behind Saylor’s $13M Bitcoin Chart (Jesse Myers)

Jesse Myers discusses his journey into Bitcoin, the significance of his viral chart on Bitcoin's market potential, and the evolving role of Bitcoin treasury companies in the financial landscape. He emphasizes Bitcoin's superiority as a store of value compared to traditional assets like gold and bonds, and explores the implications of inflation on Bitcoin's valuation. Take your Self-Custody seriously and Get a Microseed:- https://microseed.ioContact the CyberSecurity & Self Custody Experts from the Bitcoin Way:- 30 mins free call with my link: https://thebitcoinway.com/robinWant to mine Bitcoin? I personally use simplemining!- Go to: https://simplemining.ioGuest's contact: https://x.com/Croesus_BTCTakeawaysJesse Myers emphasizes the importance of creating content that resonates personally.Bitcoin is seen as the most important asset in the world.The chart created by Jesse Myers provides a unique perspective on Bitcoin's market potential.Bitcoin's role as a store of value is unmatched compared to other assets.The growth of Bitcoin treasury companies is a significant trend in finance.Gold is experiencing a resurgence as a safe haven asset.Inflation impacts the valuation of Bitcoin and traditional assets differently.Bitcoin's expanding use cases could redefine its market position.The dynamics of the bond market are shifting, making them less attractive.Savvy individual investors play a crucial role in the success of Bitcoin treasury companies.Chapters00:00 Introduction and Chart Overview02:46 Jesse Myers' Background and Chart Genesis06:11 The Impact of Bitcoin on Global Asset Landscape08:46 The Importance of Market Sizing for Bitcoin11:57 The Role of Bitcoin as a Store of Value15:11 Bitcoin's Potential Market Expansion17:58 The Future of Bitcoin and Gold21:07 Current Trends in Gold and Bitcoin24:07 Volatility and Risk in Bitcoin26:57 Conclusion and Future Outlook38:49 Understanding Risk and Volatility in Bitcoin39:32 Monetary Supply and Inflation Insights41:36 Bitcoin Valuation in a Hyperinflated World42:33 Bitcoin's Future Market Share Predictions44:41 Analyzing Asset Growth and Relative Performance46:10 The Role of Gold in Modern Portfolios48:22 The Rise of Bitcoin Treasury Companies51:08 Bitcoin's Competitive Edge in Financial Markets53:50 The Future of Bonds and Bitcoin57:02 The Evolution of Bitcoin Treasury Companies01:00:44 The Impact of Retail Investors on Bitcoin Treasury Companies01:04:14 Challenges Facing Bitcoin Treasury Companies01:10:21 The Future of Bitcoin in Global FinanceThis content is for educational and/or entertainment purposes only.The views expressed by Robin Seyr and his guests are their own and do not constitute financial advice.Nothing in the title, thumbnail, description, or video/audio is to be interpreted as investment, tax, or legal advice.I am not a financial advisor and do not provide financial services as defined by MiCA or other financial regulations.Mentioning or featuring any product, service, or company does not imply endorsement.Some links may be affiliate links — using them helps support the show at no extra cost to you.Always do your own research. Investing in cryptocurrencies involves risk and may not be suitable for everyone.Viewers and listeners are responsible for complying with their local laws and regulations.
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Oct 12, 2025 • 1h 10min

Bitcoin Is Awakening Global Energy: The Next Dimension of Money

Ex-Wall Street Insider Reveals Why Bitcoin Is the Hidden Energy of the World.Holly Berkley explores the evolving landscape of Bitcoin, its intersection with consciousness, and the broader societal shifts occurring globally. Bitcoin's growth as an asset, the significance of personal growth and awakening, and its role as a tool for new social structures. The conversation highlights the importance of embodying higher frequencies and the role of silence and reflection in personal development.Take your Self-Custody seriously and Get a Microseed:- https://microseed.ioContact the CyberSecurity & Self Custody Experts from the Bitcoin Way:- 30 mins free call with my link: https://thebitcoinway.com/robinWant to mine Bitcoin? I personally use simplemining!- Go to: https://simplemining.ioGuest's contact: https://x.com/Bliss_SmartTakeawaysAir quality is a concern for podcasters.HEPA filters can improve indoor air quality.Bitcoin awareness is rapidly increasing globally.The Bitcoin community is maturing and evolving.Bitcoin is becoming more accepted in mainstream society.Consciousness plays a significant role in the Bitcoin narrative.Energy and frequency are crucial in healing and personal growth.Silence and reflection are essential for mental clarity.The collective is experiencing a mass awakening.Bitcoin serves as a foundation for new societal constructs.Chapters00:00 Air Quality and Health Monitoring02:30 Bitcoin's Evolving Landscape08:03 The Intersection of Bitcoin and Consciousness11:56 Personal Journeys and Bitcoin Awakening24:05 Soul Sovereignty and Human Experience35:19 The Power of Quiet Reflection40:11 Global Shifts and Energetic Changes46:10 Personal Awakening and Inner Transformation55:19 Bitcoin and Consciousness: A New Era01:01:01 Embodying Higher Frequencies for Collective BenefitThis content is for educational and/or entertainment purposes only.The views expressed by Robin Seyr and his guests are their own and do not constitute financial advice.Nothing in the title, thumbnail, description, or video/audio is to be interpreted as investment, tax, or legal advice.I am not a financial advisor and do not provide financial services as defined by MiCA or other financial regulations.Mentioning or featuring any product, service, or company does not imply endorsement.Some links may be affiliate links — using them helps support the show at no extra cost to you.Always do your own research. Investing in cryptocurrencies involves risk and may not be suitable for everyone.Viewers and listeners are responsible for complying with their local laws and regulations.

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