Force of Nature

About the EpisodeIn the final episode of season 2, We Need to Talk about Eco-Anxiety, Clover explores the role education plays in understanding global eco-anxiety and mitigating the climate crisis.First up, Clover meets with Joe Brindle, founder of the Teach the Future campaign, to learn why our education on the climate crisis has been limited and whether or not it was a deliberate attempt to restrict awareness. We then hear from people around the world experiencing eco-anxiety and advocating for more educational resources on the topic; and finally, Leslie Madema, head of learning at Green School International, to understand what an educational system that prioritises teachings about sustainability and the climate crisis looks like.Top Quotes"Our climate education is particularly bad in the UK. The new curriculum changes have tried to push out anything remotely political but what that has done is push out anything societal. And that includes climate change." - Joe Brindle"My problem with our education system is how it prioritises individualism; how well you'll do in an exam, how smart you are in a traditional way. And that individualism is missing a huge part of the community. Which is a problem because the climate crisis affects us as a society." - Leslie MademaAbout the GuestsJoe Brindle is a 19-year-old climate activist and the founder of the Teach the Future campaign. Teach the Future is a youth-led campaign to urgently repurpose the entire education system around the climate emergency and ecological crisis in the UK.Leslie Madema is head of learning for Green School International Bali. Green School International is a global education network, committed to creating a global community of learners, making the world sustainable. Caroline Hickman is a psychotherapist and Climate Psychology Therapist in Education at the University of Bath. Her research specialises in children and young people's relationships with nature, and their feelings about the climate and ecological crisis. ResourcesFollow Force of Naturehttps://www.instagram.com/forceofnature.xyz/https://twitter.com/fon_xyzhttps://www.linkedin.com/company/forceofnature/Our production partners at OneFinePlay https://www.onefineplay.com/Check out more podcast content, eco-anxiety resources, and opportunities to join us at Force of Nature https://www.forceofnature.xyz/podcast View our recent collaboration with Joe Brindle on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/forceofnature.xyz/ and follow them at https://twitter.com/joebrindle_https://www.instagram.com/_teachthefuture/Sign up to our newsletter to receive the podcast direct to your inbox, as well as exclusive invites - like our mid-season event with speakers from the show https://view.flodesk.com/pages/611e4f7e1a673a30ce698795   Take our 5-minute quiz ‘Which Changemaker Are You?’, featuring activists like Joe Brindle who feature in the podcast  https://www.forceofnature.xyz/change-maker-quizLearn if you have eco-anxiety by taking our quiz here https://www.forceofnature.xyz/eco-anxiety-quiz   Read our latest blog over on The Bloom, written by one of our young content creators inspired by this episode https://www.forceofnature.xyz/the-bloom 

About the EpisodeIn the penultimate episode of season 2, We Need to Talk about Eco-Anxiety, Clover will be learning about nature and extinction and how it aggravates eco-anxiety worldwide.First, Clover meets environmental filmmaker and Wildlife photographer of the year, Aishwarya Sidhar, to better understand capitalist systems that are driving extinction. We then hear how young people's eco-anxiety has been worsened by ecological extinction; our resident psychotherapist, Caroline Hickman, on how our abuse of nature is a direct result of our disconnection from it; and finally, Executive Director of Greenpeace, Jennifer Morgan, on what we can do to save the planet.Top Quotes"Our greed and overconsumption of resources is driving the destruction of nature. We have these large corporations that are only after profit. And they are willing to trade our economy for our ecology." - Aishwarya Sidhar"We framed defeating nature as progress. We have had such a messed up relationship with nature and it's been going on for years. The only way to resolve the climate crises is to value nature again." - Caroline HickmanAbout the GuestsAishwarya Sridhar is an Indian wildlife photographer, presenter, and environmental documentary filmmaker residing in Navi Mumbai. She is the youngest girl to have won the Sanctuary Asia-Young Naturalist Award and the International Camera Fair Award. In 2020, Aishwarya became the first Indian woman to win the Wildlife Photographer of the Year award.Jennifer Morgan is the executive director of Greenpeace International. Greenpeace is a global network of independent campaigning organizations that use peaceful protest and creative communication to expose global environmental problems and promote solutions that are essential to a green and peaceful future. Check out Jennifer’s instagram here Caroline Hickman is a psychotherapist and Climate Psychology Therapist in Education at the University of Bath. Her research specialises in children and young people's relationships with nature, and their feelings about the climate and ecological crisis. ResourcesFollow Force of Naturehttps://www.instagram.com/forceofnature.xyz/https://twitter.com/fon_xyzhttps://www.linkedin.com/company/forceofnature/Our production partners at OneFinePlay https://www.onefineplay.com/Check out more podcast content, eco-anxiety resources, and opportunities to join us at Force of Nature https://www.forceofnature.xyz/podcast View our recent collaboration with Aishwarya Sridhar on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/forceofnature.xyz/ and follow them at https://www.instagram.com/chikoo_wild/ Sign up to our newsletter to receive the podcast direct to your inbox, as well as exclusive invites - like our mid-season event with speakers from the show https://view.flodesk.com/pages/611e4f7e1a673a30ce698795Take our 5-minute quiz ‘Which Changemaker Are You?’, featuring activists like Aishwarya Sridhar who feature in the podcast  https://www.forceofnature.xyz/change-maker-quizLearn if you have eco-anxiety by taking our quiz here https://www.forceofnature.xyz/eco-anxiety-quiz   Read our latest blog over on The Bloom, written by one of our young content creators inspired by this episode https://www.forceofnature.xyz/the-bloom 

About the EpisodeIn this episode, We Need to Talk about Eco-Anxiety, Clover investigates how modern politics have generated the climate crisis and heightened global eco-anxiety; and what we must do to find a unifying vision for the future. First up, Clover meets Colombe Cahen-Salvador, co-founder of ATLAS, to learn more about how politicians have escalated the climate crisis and whether they actually want us to politically disengage. We then hear from young people around the world on how they think politicians have shaped the climate conversation and Clover sits down with Jeremy Oppenheim, the founder of SYSTEMIQ, to learn why it's so hard to find political consensus on tackling the crisis and whether there’s opportunity in our ‘climate odyssey’. Top Quotes"Why don't we have an age limit in politics? How come you can run when you're 80 but you can't run when you're 20? It's ridiculous. Someone who is so much older cannot properly represent the youth" - Colombe Cahen-Salvador"Just look at history. When you look at any society shifting event it wasn't easy. It looked impossible until it was done and it will always look impossible until it's done." - Colombe Cahen-SalvadorAbout the GuestsColombe Cahen-Salvador is the co-founder of ATLAS. They push for global change through social campaigns, electoral activities, and direct actions. The movement is fuelled by the passion of people and communities uniting all over the world to fight common global challenges. They are present in over 130 countries with a membership of more than 20,000 people. Jeremy Oppenheim is the Founder and Managing Partner of SYSTEMIQ - a systems change company that partners with business, finance, policy-makers, and civil society to make economic systems truly sustainable. Jeremy is a regular speaker at global resource productivity and sustainability events, and is lead author of Resource Revolution: Meeting the World's Energy, Materials, Food and Water Needs. Caroline Hickman is a psychotherapist and Climate Psychology Therapist in Education at the University of Bath. Her research specialises in children and young people's relationships with nature, and their feelings about the climate and ecological crisis. About the Sponsor SYSTEMIQ was set up in 2016 and today, is a team of over 250 professionals across the UK, Germany, the Netherlands, Indonesia and Brazil. They started out to bring business, institutions and governments around the same table to drive the implementation of the Paris Agreement and the UN Sustainable Development Goals. Rather than focus on individual companies, SYSTEMIQ takes a coalition and partnership-based approach to ensure the right people are in the room for systems-level transformation. This includes working closely with civil society, academia and finance. Its distinctive approach combines cutting-edge analysis with practical advice, policy insights, and scaling solutions that work locally and globally.ResourcesFollow Force of Naturehttps://www.instagram.com/forceofnature.xyz/https://twitter.com/fon_xyzhttps://www.linkedin.com/company/forceofnature/Check out more podcast content, eco-anxiety resources, and opportunities to join us at Force of Nature https://www.forceofnature.xyz/podcast View our recent collaboration with Colombe Cahen-Salvador on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/forceofnature.xyz/ and follow them at https://www.instagram.com/colombecs/https://www.instagram.com/atlas.movement/Our production partners at OneFinePlay https://www.onefineplay.com/Sign up to our newsletter to receive the podcast direct to your inbox, as well as exclusive invites - like our mid-season event with speakers from the show https://view.flodesk.com/pages/611e4f7e1a673a30ce698795 Take our 5-minute quiz ‘Which Changemaker Are You?’, featuring activists like Colombe Cahen-Salvador who feature in the podcast  https://www.forceofnature.xyz/change-maker-quizLearn if you have eco-anxiety by taking our quiz here https://www.forceofnature.xyz/eco-anxiety-quiz   Read our latest blog over on The Bloom, written by one of our young content creators inspired by this episode https://www.forceofnature.xyz/the-bloom 

About the EpisodeIn the ninth episode of season two, We Need to Talk about Eco-Anxiety, Clover considers how our modern consumerist culture, founded on the desire to accumulate material possessions, has led to the climate crisis and in turn, eco-anxiety. First up, Clover meets the former Global Communications Lead of Break Free From Plastic and Founder of People Over Plastic, Shilpi Chhotray, to discuss our culture of overconsumption, and why breaking free of consumerism is at the heart of climate action. We then hear the thoughts of young people across the globe, and how their eco-anxiety is exacerbated by consumerist culture; and finally from Artur Litarowicz, Senior Vice President and General Manager of Hair Care for P&G Europe, about how market trends have changed from previous generations and why sustainability is becoming cost-effective for businesses. Top Quotes"We can talk about individual change and lifestyle change but with the amount of waste we are generating right now no amount of individual or lifestyle solutions are going to work. We need the corporations to stop it at the source." - Shilpi Chhotray"We need to sell a vision of a plastic-free world because it's healthier, it's more sustainable, it goes back to our roots, and it's not obsessed with this cycle of consumerism." - Shilpi Chhotray"In the past few years, we have seen the consumer move from being a passive recipient of the sustainability message to being advocates, and even activists, in that space." - Artur Litarowicz About the GuestsShilpi Chhotray is an activist, the former Global Communications Lead of Break Free From Plastic and Founder of People Over Plastic. Prior to joining Break Free From Plastic, Shilpi worked at Mission Blue | Sylvia Earle Alliance to further their mission of igniting public support for a global network of marine protected areas. She holds a Master’s degree in Earth and Environmental Resources Management and her writing has been published in The Economist; Yes! magazine; the Stanford Journal of Law, Science & Policy; Huffington Post, and National Geographic Ocean Views.Caroline Hickman is a psychotherapist and Climate Psychology Therapist in Education at the University of Bath. Her research specialises in children and young people's relationships with nature, and their feelings about the climate and ecological crisis.  About the SponsorThe Procter & Gamble Company is an American multinational consumer goods corporation - mainly manufacturing products in the cosmetics and personal care sector; as well as laundry and cleaning supplies. By the end of 2021, P&G Hair Care Europe will have reduced their use of virgin plastic by up to 50%, compared to the beginning of their sustainability journey back in 2016. They have done this by introducing more post-consumer recycled plastic into their bottles and establishing the Good Refill System.  According to P&G, 63% of consumers in Europe say that they are actively trying to reduce the amount of waste they produce, and close to 50% state that they are looking for refills to help them achieve this. Their new scheme uses refillable aluminium bottles with recyclable refill pouches that use 65% less plastic compared to a regular shampoo bottle. This is the equivalent of 300 million fewer plastic bottles per year!ResourcesFollow Force of Naturehttps://www.instagram.com/forceofnature.xyz/https://twitter.com/fon_xyzhttps://www.linkedin.com/company/forceofnature/Our production partners at OneFinePlay https://www.onefineplay.com/Check out more podcast content, eco-anxiety resources, and opportunities to join us at Force of Nature https://www.forceofnature.xyz/podcast View our recent collaboration with Shilpi Chhotray on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/forceofnature.xyz/ and follow them at https://twitter.com/shilpichhotray https://www.instagram.com/breakfreefromplastic/ Sign up to our newsletter to receive the podcast direct to your inbox, as well as exclusive invites - like our mid-season event with speakers from the show https://view.flodesk.com/pages/611e4f7e1a673a30ce698795 Take our 5-minute quiz ‘Which Changemaker Are You?’, featuring activists like Shilpi Chhotray who feature in the podcast  https://www.forceofnature.xyz/change-maker-quizLearn if you have eco-anxiety by taking our quiz here https://www.forceofnature.xyz/eco-anxiety-quiz   Read our latest blog over on The Bloom, written by one of our young content creators inspired by this episode https://www.forceofnature.xyz/the-bloom 

About the EpisodeIn the eighth episode of season two, We Need to Talk about Eco-Anxiety, Clover explores how our relationship with food contributes to global eco-anxiety and the climate crisis. First up, Clover meets the founder of the food waste initiative TooGoodToGo, Jamie Crummie, to discuss the enormity of our problematic global food system, and why managing food waste is the single most impactful thing individuals can do to lessen their CO2 impact. We then hear from young people about their eco-anxiety in relation to food; and Vice President of Agriculture for PepsiCo, Christine Daugherty, to find out if global corporations are envisioning a new phase for food production - and what that may look like.  Top Quotes"Fighting food waste is the no.1 most impactful, simplest solution that we as individuals, as leaders, as businesses, can do to reverse the effects of climate change." - Jamie Crummie"Rather than it totally being around individual responsibility, there needs to be wholesale changes to our food system. We need to understand food waste is fundamentally a systemic issue." - Jamie CrummieAbout the GuestsJamie Crummie is the founder of TooGoodToGo: a food waste initiative and mobile application that connects customers to restaurants and stores that have unsold food surplus. Christine Daugherty is VP Global Sustainable Agriculture & Responsible Sourcing for PepsiCo. PepsiCo, Inc. is an American based multinational food, snack, and beverage corporation. It ranks as one of the largest companies worldwide in terms of market share.  Caroline Hickman is a psychotherapist and Climate Psychology Therapist in Education at the University of Bath. Her research specialises in children and young people's relationships with nature, and their feelings about the climate and ecological crisis.  ResourcesFollow Force of Naturehttps://www.instagram.com/forceofnature.xyz/https://twitter.com/fon_xyzhttps://www.linkedin.com/company/forceofnature/Our production partners at OneFinePlay https://www.onefineplay.com/Check out more podcast content, eco-anxiety resources, and opportunities to join us at Force of Nature https://www.forceofnature.xyz/podcast View our recent collaboration with Jamie Crummie on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/forceofnature.xyz/ and follow them at https://www.instagram.com/toogoodtogo.uk/Sign up to our newsletter to receive the podcast direct to your inbox, as well as exclusive invites - like our mid-season event with speakers from the show https://view.flodesk.com/pages/611e4f7e1a673a30ce698795 Take our 5-minute quiz ‘Which Changemaker Are You?’, featuring activists like Jamie Crummie who feature in the podcast  https://www.forceofnature.xyz/change-maker-quizLearn if you have eco-anxiety by taking our quiz here https://www.forceofnature.xyz/eco-anxiety-quiz   Read our latest blog over on The Bloom, written by one of our young content creators inspired by this episode https://www.forceofnature.xyz/the-bloom 

About the EpisodeIn the seventh episode of season two, We Need to Talk about Eco-Anxiety, Clover rifles through the world of fast fashion to discover the true extent of its impact on the climate crisis, and how this accentuates global eco-anxiety. First up, Clover sits down with environmentalist blogger, Aditi Mayer, to track the origins of fast fashion, and understand how our disposable culture has unravelled our sense of what is, and what is not art. Later in the show, our resident psychotherapist, Caroline Hickman, explains why our definition of beauty has been corrupted by our disregard for nature; and finally, Clover chats to Michael Doughty, co-founder of Hylo Athletics, to learn about the companies redesigning our fashion and textiles industries for a more sustainable future.  Top Quotes"Traditionally, we had four fashion seasons: Spring, Summer, Fall, Winter. With fast fashion, it became 52 seasons a year." - Aditi Mayer"Fast fashion has caused us to see clothes as a disposable commodity rather than the art that it is." - Aditi MayerAbout the GuestsAditi Mayer is a sustainable fashion blogger, photojournalist, labour rights activist, and frequent speaker on topics of social and environmental justice. Her work looks at fashion and culture through a lens of intersectionality and decolonisation.Michael Doughty is the Co-Founder and Managing Director of Hylo Athletics. Hylo is a sustainable footwear and athletics manufacturer with a number of sustainability goals and pledges at the heart of their business.Caroline Hickman is a psychotherapist and Climate Psychology Therapist in Education at the University of Bath. Her research specialises in children and young people's relationships with nature, and their feelings about the climate and ecological crisis.  ResourcesFollow Force of Naturehttps://www.instagram.com/forceofnature.xyz/https://twitter.com/fon_xyzhttps://www.linkedin.com/company/forceofnature/Our production partners at OneFinePlay https://www.onefineplay.com/Check out more podcast content, eco-anxiety resources, and opportunities to join us at Force of Nature https://www.forceofnature.xyz/podcast View our recent collaboration with Aditi Mayer on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/forceofnature.xyz/ and follow them at https://www.instagram.com/aditimayer/ Sign up to our newsletter to receive the podcast direct to your inbox, as well as exclusive invites - like our mid-season event with speakers from the show https://view.flodesk.com/pages/611e4f7e1a673a30ce698795  Take our 5-minute quiz ‘Which Changemaker Are You?’, featuring activists like Aditi Mayer who feature in the podcast  https://www.forceofnature.xyz/change-maker-quizLearn if you have eco-anxiety by taking our quiz here https://www.forceofnature.xyz/eco-anxiety-quiz   Read our latest blog over on The Bloom, written by one of our young content creators inspired by this episode https://www.forceofnature.xyz/the-bloom 

About the EpisodeIn the sixth episode of season two, We Need to Talk about Eco-Anxiety, Clover dives deeper into eco-feminism and the impact of the climate crisis on women & girls.Through her conversation with Nergiz De Baere, creator of ChicksforClimate, Clover unearths the disproportionate effects of the climate crisis on women. We then hear from young people whose stories have been shaped by gender inequality; our resident psychotherapist, Caroline Hickman, on why women need to ‘embrace their inner bitch’; and finally, Firdaous El Honsali, Global Communications Director of Dove, on whether companies champion women’s voices or continue to silence them. Top Quotes"The people who are impacted the most by climate change don't have a voice in the policy-making part of fighting it." - Nergiz De Baere"Eco-feminism seeks to make a connection between how capitalism and the patriarchy exploit both the planet and women. Ecofeminism connects those two things together as one." - Nergiz De Baere About the GuestsNergiz De Baere is the creator of ChicksforClimate, an online platform dedicated to communicating the intersection of environmentalism and feminism, now at +400k community members. Caroline Hickman is a psychotherapist and Climate Psychology Therapist in Education at the University of Bath. Her research specialises in children and young people's relationships with nature, and their feelings about the climate and ecological crisis.  Firdaous El Honsali is Global Communications and Sustainability Director of Dove, a Unilever brand. She has a demonstrated history of working in the consumer goods industry, with a clear passion for beauty brands and driving purpose-driven communications and sustainable strategy. She was listed in the 2020 global #Influencer50 list. About the SponsorDove - a Unilever brand - is on a mission to help women and girls around the world. The Dove Self-Esteem Project (DSEP) is the biggest provider of self-esteem education in the world and has already reached more than 69 million young people across 150 countries since 2004. In 2019, Dove partnered with UNICEF to help deliver self-esteem education to 10 million young people in Brazil, India and Indonesia. In addition, Dove recently launched the Forest Restoration Project, which will restore 20,000 hectares of forest in North Sumatra, Indonesia, as well as protect the livelihoods of 16,000 people in the community. ResourcesFollow Force of Nature https://www.instagram.com/forceofnature.xyz/https://twitter.com/fon_xyzhttps://www.linkedin.com/company/forceofnature/About the EpisodeIn the sixth episode of season two, We Need to Talk about Eco-Anxiety, Clover dives deeper into eco-feminism and the impact of the climate crisis on women & girls.Through her conversation with Nergiz De Baere, creator of ChicksforClimate, Clover unearths the disproportionate effects of the climate crisis on women. We then hear from young people whose stories have been shaped by gender inequality; our resident psychotherapist, Caroline Hickman, on why women need to ‘embrace their inner bitch’; and finally, Firdaous El Honsali, Global Communications Director of Dove, on whether companies champion women’s voices or continue to silence them. Top Quotes"The people who are impacted the most by climate change don't have a voice in the policy-making part of fighting it." - Nergiz De Baere"Eco-feminism seeks to make a connection between how capitalism and the patriarchy exploit both the planet and women. Ecofeminism connects those two things together as one." - Nergiz De Baere About the GuestsNergiz De Baere is the creator of ChicksforClimate, an online platform dedicated to communicating the intersection of environmentalism and feminism, now at +400k community members. Caroline Hickman is a psychotherapist and Climate Psychology Therapist in Education at the University of Bath. Her research specialises in children and young people's relationships with nature, and their feelings about the climate and ecological crisis.  Firdaous El Honsali is Global Communications and Sustainability Director of Dove, a Unilever brand. She has a demonstrated history of working in the consumer goods industry, with a clear passion for beauty brands and driving purpose-driven communications and sustainable strategy. She was listed in the 2020 global #Influencer50 list. About the SponsorDove - a Unilever brand - is on a mission to help women and girls around the world. The Dove Self-Esteem Project (DSEP) is the biggest provider of self-esteem education in the world and has already reached more than 69 million young people across 150 countries since 2004. In 2019, Dove partnered with UNICEF to help deliver self-esteem education to 10 million young people in Brazil, India and Indonesia. In addition, Dove recently launched the Forest Restoration Project, which will restore 20,000 hectares of forest in North Sumatra, Indonesia, as well as protect the livelihoods of 16,000 people in the community. ResourcesFollow Force of Naturehttps://www.instagram.com/forceofnature.xyz/https://twitter.com/fon_xyzhttps://www.linkedin.com/company/forceofnature/Check out more podcast content, eco-anxiety resources, and opportunities to join us at Force of Nature https://www.forceofnature.xyz/podcast View our recent collaboration with Nergiz De Baere on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/forceofnature.xyz/ and follow them at https://www.instagram.com/chicksforclimate/ Sign up to our newsletter to receive the podcast direct to your inbox, as well as exclusive invites - like our mid-season event with speakers from the show https://view.flodesk.com/pages/611e4f7e1a673a30ce698795 Take our 5-minute quiz ‘Which Changemaker Are You?’, featuring activists like Nergiz De Baere who feature in the podcast  https://www.forceofnature.xyz/change-maker-quizLearn if you have eco-anxiety by taking our quiz here https://www.forceofnature.xyz/eco-anxiety-quiz   Read our latest blog over on The Bloom, written by one of our young content creators inspired by this episode https://www.forceofnature.xyz/the-bloom Our production partners at OneFinePlay https://www.onefineplay.com/Check out more podcast content, eco-anxiety resources, and opportunities to join us at Force of Nature https://www.forceofnature.xyz/podcast View our recent collaboration with Nergiz De Baere on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/forceofnature.xyz/ and follow them at https://www.instagram.com/chicksforclimate/ Sign up to our newsletter to receive the podcast direct to your inbox, as well as exclusive invites - like our mid-season event with speakers from the show https://view.flodesk.com/pages/611e4f7e1a673a30ce698795 Take our 5-minute quiz ‘Which Changemaker Are You?’, featuring activists like Nergiz De Baere who feature in the podcast  https://www.forceofnature.xyz/change-maker-quizLearn if you have eco-anxiety by taking our quiz here https://www.forceofnature.xyz/eco-anxiety-quiz   Read our latest blog over on The Bloom, written by one of our young content creators inspired by this episode https://www.forceofnature.xyz/the-bloom 

About the EpisodeIn the fifth episode of season two, We Need to Talk about Eco-Anxiety, Clover sets on a journey to uncover our relationship with water and how this vital element is at the core of the climate crisis.Firstly, Clover meets water rights activist, Beze Gray, to analyse why water rights & scarcity will become an increasingly ubiquitous problem for all. Later on, young people around the world share how our fractious relationship with water worsens their eco-anxiety. We then hear from our resident psychotherapist, Caroline Hickman, on how water can represent the human ego; and finally, Frantz and Oya from P&G to discuss why water scarcity will lead to global conflict and how innovation can help mitigate future water wars.Top Quotes"The water systems don't belong to anyone. It's just water. You can't have ownership of that. It's a western thing to say you own the water. Indigenous people would never do that. It just flows. " - Beze Gray"The symbolism of water is really the way to understand it. Water does not respect us, we need to respect water. Water doesn't respect boundaries; it flows across boundaries. Will we ever wake up to respect the natural cycle, or will we ruin it for everyone?" - Caroline HickmanAbout the GuestsBeze Gray is an Anishnaabe land/water protector and student from Aamjiwnaang First Nation in Ontario and is one of seven young people taking the Ford government to court for weakening Ontario’s 2030 climate target. Growing up in an area near Sarnia also known as Chemical Valley, Beze has witnessed the impacts of the fossil fuel industry firsthand.Caroline Hickman is a psychotherapist and Climate Psychology Therapist in Education at the University of Bath. Her research specialises in children and young people's relationships with nature, and their feelings about the climate and ecological crisis. Frantz Beznik is the Global Head of Sustainable Innovation at Procter & Gamble - a company selling products to 5 billion people every day. With more than 20 years of experience at P&G, Frantz is a passionate leader working across big brands like Tide, Ariel, Swiffer, and Mr Clean. His obsession is to “Make Sustainable Irresistible” - with his most recent innovation being the 50L home, which aims to lower urban water consumption. Oya Öngör is Senior Vice President Europe Homecare at Procter & Gamble.   About the SponsorFairy dishwashing liquid - a P&G brand - aims to drive sustainable consumption through performance. With Fairy, consumers can wash in cool water – by only reducing by 20 degrees the water washing temperature, consumers can reduce up to 50% of the CO2, based on the life cycle analysis. 75% of consumers surveyed by Fairy pre-rinse dishes, with an average water consumption of 4 liters each time. Yet Fairy dishwasher capsules are so powerful that consumers can skip pre-rinse and wash in eco-cycle, saving energy and water. Across packaging, they’ve increased recycled plastic in their bottles in Europe from 15 to 50% in the last 2 years.ResourcesFollow Force of Nature https://www.instagram.com/forceofnature.xyz/https://twitter.com/fon_xyzhttps://www.linkedin.com/company/forceofnature/Our production partners at OneFinePlay https://www.onefineplay.com/Check out more podcast content, eco-anxiety resources, and opportunities to join us at Force of Nature https://www.forceofnature.xyz/podcast View our recent collaboration with Beze Gray on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/forceofnature.xyz/ and follow them at https://www.instagram.com/nagweyaabiimkwa/ Sign up to our newsletter to receive the podcast direct to your inbox, as well as exclusive invites - like our mid-season event with speakers from the show https://view.flodesk.com/pages/611e4f7e1a673a30ce698795Take our 5-minute quiz ‘Which Changemaker Are You?’, featuring activists like Beze Gray who feature in the podcast  https://www.forceofnature.xyz/change-maker-quizLearn if you have eco-anxiety by taking our quiz here https://www.forceofnature.xyz/eco-anxiety-quiz   Read our latest blog over on The Bloom, written by one of our young content creators inspired by this episode https://www.forceofnature.xyz/the-bloom 

About the EpisodeIn the fourth episode of season two, We Need to Talk about Eco-Anxiety, Clover sheds light on the intersection of climate justice and social justice being two sides of the same coin.First up, Clover meets Isaias Hernandez, creator of QueerBrownVegan, to deconstruct the climate crisis, racism, and inequality, and learn how these topics intersect. We then hear from young people around the world, sharing how social inequalities affect their eco-anxiety; our resident psychotherapist, Caroline Hickman, on how to channel these emotions into constructive action; and finally, Rob Cameron, global head of affairs with Nestle, on why those that contribute the least to the climate crisis end up experiencing the worst of it.Top Quotes"Although urban planners or scientists may have expertise in what to build and how to do it, what they miss is the component of cultural experiences - how those communities are designed and how they operate - so having people from those communities representing them is the best situation. We can not solve this climate crisis purely through 'experts'; we need a multitude of experts from different communities." - Isaias Hernandez"It's been known for some time that the people who will experience the worst effects of climate change are those who have had the least responsibility for it." - Rob CameronAbout the GuestsIsaias Hernandez is an Environmental Educator and creator of QueerBrownVegan where he creates introductory forms of environmentalism through colourful graphics, illustrations, and videos. He seeks to provide a safe space for like-minded environmentalists to advance the discourse around the climate crisis.Caroline Hickman is a psychotherapist and Climate Psychology Therapist in Education at the University of Bath. Her research specialises in children and young people's relationships with nature, and their feelings about the climate and ecological crisis.  Rob Cameron is Global Head of Public Affairs at Nestlé SA. His career has been spent driving progress in sustainable development through the private sector. Before joining Nestlé, he was Chief Executive of sustainability strategy consultancy and think tank SustainAbility, and Chief Executive of Fairtrade International. About the SponsorNestlé is a global food and beverage company present in 187 countries. Nestlé offers a wide portfolio of products and services for people and their pets throughout their lives. The company is committed to reaching net zero emissions no later than 2050 throughout its entire value chain, aligned with the 1.5 degree Paris pathway. It is working across the food system to invest in regenerative agriculture, unlock the power of food and enhance quality of life for everyone, today and for generations to come.ResourcesFollow Force of Naturehttps://www.instagram.com/forceofnature.xyz/https://twitter.com/fon_xyzhttps://www.linkedin.com/company/forceofnature/Our production partners at OneFinePlay https://www.onefineplay.com/Check out more podcast content, eco-anxiety resources, and opportunities to join us at Force of Nature https://www.forceofnature.xyz/podcast View our recent collaboration with ​​Isaias Hernandez on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/forceofnature.xyz/ and follow them at https://www.instagram.com/queerbrownvegan/ Sign up to our newsletter to receive the podcast direct to your inbox, as well as exclusive invites - like our mid-season event with speakers from the show https://view.flodesk.com/pages/611e4f7e1a673a30ce698795 Take our 5-minute quiz ‘Which Changemaker Are You?’, featuring activists like Isaias Hernandez who feature in the podcast  https://www.forceofnature.xyz/change-maker-quizLearn if you have eco-anxiety by taking our quiz here https://www.forceofnature.xyz/eco-anxiety-quiz   Read our latest blog over on The Bloom, written by one of our young content creators inspired by this episode https://www.forceofnature.xyz/the-bloom 

About the EpisodeIn the third episode of season two, We Need to Talk about Eco-Anxiety, Clover explores our world of plastic and its impact on people and the planet. First up, Clover meets Melati Wijsen, founder of Bye Bye Plastic Bags. Melati explains why our oceans are drowning in plastic, and how that could gravely impact all life on this planet. We then hear from young people around the world experiencing eco-anxiety; our resident psychotherapist, Caroline Hickman, on how to harness our emotions in a rapidly changing world; and finally, VP of Dove, Allesandro Manfredi, on how global corporations are beginning to address the issue. Top Quotes"By 2050 there will be more plastic in the ocean than fish." - Melati Wijsen"Plastic is cheap, its single use, and then we forget about it once it's served its purpose. It's actually a really good symbol for all that is wrong with us." - Melati WijsenAbout the GuestsMelati Wijsen is an Indonesian/Dutch activist and change maker. She founded Bye Bye Plastic Bags with her younger sister in 2013 and has successfully banned plastic bags, straws and Styrofoam from their home island, Bali, as of 2019. She has also started the people movement One Island One Voice and the social enterprise, Mountain Mama's; has spoken at TED and the United Nations, and has also been selected among Forbes top ten most inspiring women in the country.Caroline Hickman is a psychotherapist and Climate Psychology Therapist in Education at the University of Bath. Her research specialises in children and young people's relationships with nature, and their feelings about the climate and ecological crisis. About the SponsorDove - a Unilever brand - is on a mission to eliminate virgin plastic from its products. By 2025, all Dove packaging will either be made from 100% recycled plastic, refillable or be reusable. This will reduce the manufacture of more than 20,500 tonnes of virgin plastic per year. Dove are also trialling new refillable deodorant, and will be making their iconic Beauty Bar packaging plastic-free globally.You can learn more about their commitment at: https://www.dove.com/us/en/stories/about-dove/plastics-commitment.html ResourcesFollow Force of Nature: https://www.instagram.com/forceofnature.xyz/https://twitter.com/fon_xyzhttps://www.linkedin.com/company/forceofnature/Our production partners at OneFinePlay https://www.onefineplay.com/ Check out more podcast content, eco-anxiety resources, and opportunities to join us at Force of Nature https://www.forceofnature.xyz/podcast View our recent collaboration with Melati Wijsen on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/forceofnature.xyz/ and follow them at https://www.instagram.com/melatiwijsen/ https://www.instagram.com/byebyeplasticbags/ https://www.instagram.com/youthtopia.world/ Sign up to our newsletter to receive the podcast direct to your inbox, as well as exclusive invites - like our mid-season event with speakers from the show https://view.flodesk.com/pages/611e4f7e1a673a30ce698795 Take our 5-minute quiz ‘Which Changemaker Are You?’, featuring activists like Melati Wijsen who feature in the podcast  https://www.forceofnature.xyz/change-maker-quizLearn if you have eco-anxiety by taking our quiz here https://www.forceofnature.xyz/eco-anxiety-quiz   Read our latest blog over on The Bloom, written by one of our young content creators inspired by this episode https://www.forceofnature.xyz/the-bloom