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NerdWallet Personal Finance
NerdWallet’s trusted finance journalists answer real-world money questions to help you make smarter financial decisions with confidence.Each episode dives deep into topics like budgeting, saving, investing, home buying, and credit cards, cutting through misinformation to bring you clear, actionable advice backed by thorough research.By the end of every episode, you’ll have the latest financial insights and the tools you’ll need to manage your money wisely, build wealth, and plan for life’s milestones. And if you have questions for the Nerds, you can leave them a voicemail at 901-730-6373.Join hosts Sean Pyles, CFP®, Elizabeth Ayoola, and other expert Nerds as they answer your biggest money questions and share strategies to help you build wealth and reach your financial goals, including:– Investing: Advanced investment strategies, integrating ETFs and mutual funds into a diversified portfolio, tax-efficient retirement planning, understanding Roth IRA conversions, and navigating robo-advisors.– Credit Cards: Top credit cards for travel rewards and luxury perks, balance transfer strategies, maximizing credit card points, and optimizing credit card usage to boost your credit score.– Personal Finance: Advanced budgeting tips, building generational wealth, creating effective savings plans, managing high-income expenses, and developing a strong money growth mindset.– Home: Smart strategies for homebuying in competitive markets, leveraging home equity loans and HELOCs, refinancing for long-term savings, first-time homebuying tips, and budgeting for major home improvements.If you’re searching for the best personal finance podcasts or want practical knowledge to make smarter money decisions, then follow NerdWallet’s Smart Money Podcast.You’ll love NerdWallet’s Smart Money Podcast if you like podcasts like: Planet Money, The Personal Finance Podcast, DIY Money, Afford Anything, How to Money, The Ramsey Show, Money Rehab with Nicole Lapin, NPR’s Life Kit: Money, Popcorn Finance, Money Girl,Money Guy Show, Everyone’s Talkin’ Money, So Money with Farnoosh Tarabi, The Money with Katie Show, All the Hacks with Chris Hutchins, The Stacking Benjamins Show, MoneyWatch with Jill Schlesinger, or Your Money, Your Wealth.NerdWallet Compare, Inc. NMLS ID# 1617539 NMLS Consumer Access: http://www.nmlsconsumeraccess.org/
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Sep 25, 2025 • 31min
Stay Ahead of a Government Shutdown and Learn How to Invest Extra Money Wisely
Learn how to prepare for a government shutdown and where to put $600 a month after building your emergency fund.
What happens in a federal government shutdown? Where should you put $600/month after funding an emergency cushion? Hosts Sean Pyles and Elizabeth Ayoola discuss the looming shutdown before answering a listener’s question about where to allocate their extra income. They begin with senior news writer Anna Helhoski, breaking down how a lapse in government funding could affect benefits, travel, parks, mail, and taxes, and how to keep your own plan steady.
Then, Elizabeth and Sean answer a listener’s question about how to think about allocating $600/month. They discuss automating IRA/solo 401(k)/SEP IRA contributions, using diversified index or mutual funds and a taxable brokerage, balancing a home down payment with retirement via time horizons and DTI/credit score, and what to look for in funds. They also explore how habit-building and automation can help you grow retirement savings while still working toward a down payment.
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In their conversation, the Nerds discuss: Social Security during shutdown, TSA delays shutdown, Medicare during shutdown, Medicaid during shutdown, WIC benefits shutdown, IRS refund delays, FAFSA processing delay, federal employees furlough, furloughed vs essential workers, continuing resolution, national park closures shutdown, food safety inspections shutdown, EPA inspections shutdown, FDA inspections shutdown, NIH grants shutdown, unemployment benefits shutdown, debt-to-income ratio mortgage, mortgage approval process, credit score mortgage requirement, down payment savings strategy, closing costs when buying a home, emergency savings for home repairs, retirement calculator, 15 percent retirement savings rule, ETF vs mutual fund, S&P 500 index fund, expense ratio explained, index fund performance history, index fund tracking error, taxable brokerage account basics, diversification in investing, automate retirement contributions, solo 401k contribution limit, and SEP IRA contribution limit.
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Sep 22, 2025 • 31min
Preparing Finances for Fall and How to Help Parents Who Haven’t Saved Enough
Kate Ashford, a personal finance expert at NerdWallet, joins Sean and Elizabeth to delve into crucial fall finance strategies. They explore how to prepare for open enrollment and set a budgeting plan for holiday expenses. The discussion shifts to assisting aging parents with limited retirement savings, touching on sensitive money conversations and evaluating Social Security. They also provide insights on Medicare options, subsidies for senior housing, and practical tips to help without jeopardizing your own retirement.

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Sep 18, 2025 • 29min
The Fed Just Cut Rates — Here’s How to Make the Most of It (Plus: How to Freeze Your Credit)
Amanda Barroso, a consumer credit expert at NerdWallet, joins the hosts to demystify credit freezes and provide essential tips for protecting your financial identity. Listeners learn when and why to freeze their credit, comparing it with fraud alerts and credit locks. The discussion includes practical steps for freezing at all three bureaus, using apps for quick thaws, and avoiding common mistakes. Tune in to discover how the recent Fed rate cut affects loans and savings and what it means for your borrowing strategies.

Sep 15, 2025 • 30min
Tap to Pay, Tap to Overspend? Mobile Wallet Traps and Money Conversations That Pay Off
Learn if digital wallets make you overspend and how simple habits can help you stay on budget.
How do you start money conversations that actually help? Do mobile wallets make you overspend? Hosts Sean Pyles and Elizabeth Ayoola discuss intentional money conversations and the psychology of paying by phone vs. card vs. cash to help you control spending and feel better about your money habits. Joined by Shari Rash, host of Everyone’s Talkin’ Money, they begin with a discussion of money talk made easier, with tips and tricks on opening with neutral topics like grocery prices, identifying your first money memory, and swapping shaming language for neutral phrasing.
Then, personal finance nerd Kate Ashford joins Sean and Elizabeth to discuss whether paying by phone changes what you spend. They discuss why “payment coupling” can dull the pain of spending, guardrails to curb impulse buys (fun-money caps, 24-hour waits, no saved cards), and where cash, credit cards, mobile wallets, and envelope-style budgeting apps (like YNAB and Goodbudget) fit for security and self-control.
Does Using a Credit Card Make You Spend More Money? https://www.nerdwallet.com/article/credit-cards/credit-cards-make-you-spend-more
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In their conversation, the Nerds discuss: mobile payments, Apple Pay, Google Pay, digital wallet security, overspending, impulse buying, cash vs credit card, payment coupling, behavioral finance, pay by phone vs card, cash stuffing, envelope method, ynab, goodbudget, budgeting apps, grocery budget tips, price per ounce shopping, money mindset, first money memory, financial check-ins, unsubscribe from promo emails, wait 24 hours before buying, fun money budget, online shopping guardrails, biometric authentication, credit card fraud protection, cashless venues, spending guardrails, budgeting limits, talking about money with partner, how to start money conversations, rising grocery prices, neutral money language, feeling rich vs being rich, allocate money for joy, mobile wallet pros and cons, tap to pay risks, and how to curb impulse shopping.
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Sep 11, 2025 • 33min
AI Stocks May Be in a Bubble, and Car Prices Could Rise Soon — Here’s What to Know
Joining the discussion are Sam Taube, an investing writer at NerdWallet, and Shannon Bradley, a car-buying expert. They delve into the intriguing possibility of AI stocks being in a bubble, drawing parallels to the late-'90s dot-com boom. Taube shares tips on diversifying investments and the importance of understanding market signals. Meanwhile, Bradley discusses the current car market, advising on pricing trends, negotiation tactics, and essential financing tips, including the pros and cons of various loan terms.

Sep 8, 2025 • 32min
Estate Planning Made Simple and How to Handle Family Loans
Learn how to build a simple estate plan and lend or repay family money without hurting your relationships.
What’s the first thing to do when creating an estate plan? What’s the smartest way to handle loans between friends or family? Hosts Sean Pyles and Elizabeth Ayoola break down estate-planning basics like wills, revocable trusts, living wills/advance healthcare directives, and durable powers of attorney — tools that can ensure your wishes are carried out and help your loved ones avoid probate. They also share when to update your documents, how beneficiary designations can override your will, and three simple to-dos to get started without feeling overwhelmed.
Then, mortgage and student loans writer Kate Wood joins Sean and Elizabeth to answer a listener’s question about paying a loan back to her parents. They explore how family loans and lending circles work, why it’s important to put agreements in writing (and when notarizing helps), and the impact informal loans can have on your credit. They also weigh different ways to set money aside, comparing high-yield savings accounts with taxable brokerage accounts invested in ETFs and considering timelines, growth potential, and tax trade-offs.
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In their conversation, the Nerds discuss: estate planning, will vs trust, revocable trust, living will, durable power of attorney, healthcare proxy, advance healthcare directive, probate explained, beneficiary designation vs will, update beneficiaries after marriage, how often to update a will, intestate meaning, avoid probate, family loan agreement, lend money to family safely, informal lending, lending circle, saving circle, notarized loan contract, pros and cons of family loans, protect relationships when lending money, credit score and informal loans, high-yield savings accounts, taxable brokerage accounts, ETF basics for beginners, repaying parents for college, fiduciary roles in estate planning, power dynamics of lending to friends, writing a repayment schedule, when to use a trust for minors, and retitling assets into a trust.
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Sep 4, 2025 • 28min
Why Refis Are Spiking and How to Optimize Your 401k Target-Date Fund for Long-Term Growth
Learn when a refi saves money and how target-date funds work, including fees and when to pick a later fund year.
What exactly is a target-date fund, and when should you move your date? How do you know if now is a good time to refinance a house? Hosts Sean Pyles and Elizabeth Ayoola discuss mortgage refinancing and target-date funds to help you understand how to quantify savings on a refi and how to set (and adjust) an age-appropriate retirement glide path. To kick off the episode, NerdWallet senior news writer Anna Helhoski joins with mortgages and student loans writer Kate Wood and mortgage reporter Holden Lewis to break down why refis are spiking even without fresh Federal Reserve cuts, who’s most likely to benefit right now, and how markets (not just the Fed) drive daily mortgage rate moves. They begin with a discussion of rate-and-term vs. cash-out refinancing, with tips and tricks on calculating your breakeven point, using the ~0.75 percentage-point rule-of-thumb for potential savings, and factoring in 2% to 6% closing costs and how long you’ll stay put.
Then, investing Nerd June Sham joins Sean and Elizabeth to discuss target-date funds. They discuss how glide paths work (to vs. through retirement), when to push your target year if you’ll work longer, and how fees compare with index funds/ETFs, plus contribution frameworks (10% to 15% of income vs. the “80% replacement” rule) and why many hands-off investors value auto-rebalancing despite higher expense ratios. A listener case study (age 35, 2055 fund) highlights how to revisit your target date in the decade before retirement, how to read a fund’s glide path, and why staying invested and consistent often matters more than chasing perfect timing.
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In this episode, the Nerds discuss: mortgage refinance, refinance calculator, mortgage rates today, breakeven point refinance, cash-out refinance, HELOC vs cash-out, refinance closing costs, when to refinance, refinance vs home equity loan, bond market and mortgage rates, Federal Reserve and mortgage rates, target-date fund, best target-date funds, target-date fund glide path, to vs through glide path, 401k target-date fund, change target-date fund year, 2055 target-date fund, target-date fund fees, expense ratio comparison, ETF vs mutual fund, index funds S&P 500, retirement contribution 10 to 15 percent, 80 percent income replacement rule, taxable brokerage vs 401k, annuity vs staying invested, debt consolidation with home equity, credit card APR vs mortgage rate, divorce refinance requirements, stay-or-sell breakeven analysis, and refinance eligibility 2025.
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Sep 1, 2025 • 37min
Smart Buying Tips from Your Mama’s Kitchen and How to Change Banks Wisely
Find out when it’s worth splurging on kitchen gear and how to switch banks without losing your financial footing.
What kitchen tools are actually worth the money? Is switching to an online bank really worth the hassle? Hosts Sean Pyles and Elizabeth Ayoola discuss the value of investing in high-quality kitchen gear and what to consider when moving your money to an online bank so you can make smarter, more intentional financial choices. They begin by speaking with Michele Norris, host of the podcast Your Mama’s Kitchen. She explains how you can align your purchases with your cooking habits — without falling for social media hype. Plus, they discuss how to think about home kitchen upgrades, including tips and tricks on choosing the right knife or stove, knowing when to skip premium brands, and avoiding aesthetic-driven purchases that don’t match your lifestyle.
Then, NerdWallet consumer banking editor Ruth Sarreal joins Sean and Elizabeth to discuss how to evaluate whether switching banks makes sense. They explore how to compare rates and fees, keep your auto-payments organized, and transition smoothly without damaging your credit or missing a bill.
NerdWallet’s roundup of the best online checking accounts: https://www.nerdwallet.com/best/banking/online-checking-accounts
In their conversation, the Nerds discuss: high yield savings account, switching banks, best kitchen appliances to buy, online-only banks, SoFi checking account, bank account switching process, best knives for home cooks, Vitamix vs Ninja blender, Le Creuset alternatives, when to splurge on appliances, budgeting for kitchen upgrades, online banks vs traditional banks, how to switch banks, ATM access with online banks, pros and cons of online banks, choosing a stove, best air fryer to buy, kitchen appliances worth the money, countertop appliances, instant pot storage, what to look for in a blender, managing multiple bank accounts, best checking accounts, how to avoid bank fees, how to transfer auto-payments, comparing bank APYs, personal finance for home cooks, financial planning for kitchen purchases, emotional value of kitchen gear, and sentimental kitchen items.
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Aug 28, 2025 • 32min
How to Talk Finances Before Cohabitating, and Why Coffee and Tea Prices Are Surging
Discuss the financial pitfalls and must-have conversations that couples should tackle before moving in together. Explore the rising costs of coffee and tea, influenced by climate change and tariffs. Understand the complexities of the coffee market and how shifting supply chains are affecting prices. Get tips on splitting expenses, maintaining personal emergency funds, and aligning financial goals with your partner. Learn how to navigate potential conflicts and ensure transparency for a harmonious financial future.

Aug 25, 2025 • 27min
Bank Account Denied? Overcome Verification Hurdles and Maximize Sign-Up Bonuses
Learn about banking blacklists and how to decide when sign-up bonuses are worth your time and money.
Why might you get denied when trying to open a new bank account online, even if all your information is correct? When are bank account sign-up bonuses really worth pursuing? Hosts Sean Pyles and Elizabeth Ayoola explain how banks verify identities, what can cause account applications to fail, and how seasonal spending habits affect financial planning to help you better manage your cash flow and set realistic expectations. But first, they kick off the episode by discussing how summer expenses like weddings, vacations, utility bills, and back-to-school shopping can disrupt budgets, and how to prepare emotionally and financially for an expensive fall.
Then, NerdWallet banking writer Margaret Burnett joins Sean and Elizabeth to discuss why banks sometimes block new account applications and how to navigate “banking blacklists.” She helps answer a listener’s question about repeated online account denials, and together they walk through how verification systems work, what ChexSystems and Early Warning Services track, and how to clean up your record. They also break down when bank account sign-up bonuses are worth it, what fine print to watch for, and how to balance rewards with potential risks.
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Best Bank Bonuses and Promotions of August 2025 (up to $3,000) https://www.nerdwallet.com/best/banking/best-bank-bonuses-and-promotions
What to Do if You’re Listed in ChexSystems https://www.nerdwallet.com/article/banking/steps-to-clear-up-your-chexsystems-record
Blocked From Getting a Bank Account? Learn About ChexSystems https://www.nerdwallet.com/article/banking/blocked-by-chexsystems-what-to-know
Banks That Don’t Use — or Will Look Past — ChexSystems https://www.nerdwallet.com/article/banking/banks-that-dont-use-or-will-look-past-chexsystems
Second Chance Checking Accounts Across the U.S. https://www.nerdwallet.com/article/banking/second-chance-checking
In their conversation, the Nerds discuss: bank account denied online, banking blacklist, ChexSystems, early warning services, bank sign-up bonus, bank bonuses, high yield savings account, verifying identity for bank account, blocked by bank, open bank account online problems, how to dispute ChexSystems, early warning services report, how to get off ChexSystems, bank fraud prevention systems, denied checking account, high risk banking customer, banking verification system, online bank application failed, identity mismatch bank account, checking account promotions, sign-up bonus fine print, taxable bank bonuses, 1099 bank bonus, avoiding bank account fees, managing multiple bank accounts, best banks for sign-up offers, credit union account opening, how to open checking account, banks that don’t use ChexSystems, new bank account requirements, and bank promotions 2025.
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